sql-ledger-users — SQL-Ledger users

Prorated Credit Issue

[Michael B. <Mi...@di...>]

Hi Everyone:

I am using SQL Ledger Version 1.4.6 and noticed when applying prorated 
credit (i.e. 9 days @ -1.33 = $-11.97) on the entry screen it calculates it 
properly.  However, when printing the invoice, the line for the prorated 
item does not show the calculated total for it.  Therefore, the invoice 
total is incorrect.

Is anyone else experiencing this issue?  If so, what would you recommend 
solving the issue?

Regards,

Mike Bush
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Re: Dutch translation

[Dieter S. <dsi...@sq...>]

ROP -> ReOrder Point

Can you give an example when the notes are not printed.


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On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, AJ Hettema wrote:

> sorry guys, I said I would post the translation of the all file last week, but 
> I didn't had the time to finish it, and wouldn't post an incomplete 
> translation. I also discoverd this weekend during the translation of the 
> sql-file that the translation I made of the all-file was not as good as I 
> thought it was. So I think I will post it all together (makes more sense to me 
> as well).
> I also have a few minor questions for the developers.
> 
> -What do you mean with ROP (has something to do with inventory).
> -Sometimes when I put something in the notes field it doesn't show up on the 
> actual invoice???
> 
> grtz
> AJ Hettema
> 
> 
> 

Dutch translation

[AJ H. <Ig...@ec...>]

sorry guys, I said I would post the translation of the all file last week, but 
I didn't had the time to finish it, and wouldn't post an incomplete 
translation. I also discoverd this weekend during the translation of the 
sql-file that the translation I made of the all-file was not as good as I 
thought it was. So I think I will post it all together (makes more sense to me 
as well).
I also have a few minor questions for the developers.

-What do you mean with ROP (has something to do with inventory).
-Sometimes when I put something in the notes field it doesn't show up on the 
actual invoice???

grtz
AJ Hettema

Re: Chart of account headers in trial balance

[Antonio G. <aga...@ag...>]

For me in the trial balance will be also the Initial Balance (Sum of all transactions before the start day of the report) at the left and at the right the End Balance (sum of all transactions at the end day of the report).

My original trial balance reporta has all of it.

I will try to make it again and send it to Dieter to complete the report.

I will try also to give to the user the option to select the fields, that the tryal balance will have.

Sorry, for my delay about that. I need it too. But, UI had been very busy in the last days.

Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.


--- "Oscar Buijten" <os...@el...>
> wrote:
>
>
>
><DIV><FONT size=2>Would it be an idea to add in the trial balance report&nbsp; 
>the headers of the different account numbers?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>This would increase the readability a lot in my humble 
>opinion.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>I would love to do it, but have no clue on how 
>to.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>Oscar</FONT></DIV>
><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Chart of account headers in trial balance

[Oscar B. <os...@el...>]

Would it be an idea to add in the trial balance report  the headers of =
the different account numbers?
This would increase the readability a lot in my humble opinion.
I would love to do it, but have no clue on how to.

Regards,

Oscar

________________________________________________________________________

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RE: Taxsystems

[AJ H. <Ig...@ec...>]

I will try this. I also think it solve's my problem.
I'll post back when I think it's ok.

AJ Hettema


>===== Original Message From sql...@li... =====
>On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Dieter Simader wrote:
>
>> Finally, you flag your customers and vendors taxable at whatever rate
>> applicable. This may be 7% and 19%, 7% or 19% or no tax.
>
>> > This is how the Dutch Taxsystem works:
>
>Oh, one thing that I have become aware of that might be relevant in
>Holland as well (the language sound similar, so why not accounting
>rules?):
>
>In Denmark incoming (vendor) and outgoing (customer) tax is on separate
>accounts (we need that for the taxation reports).
>
>What happens in SQL-Ledger is both accounts is offered in Customers and
>Vendors stup, and you should make sure to _disable_ the irrelevant one (or
>they disable each other).
>
>(please tell me that I am wrong and would I should do to fix my setup)
>
> - Jonas
>
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Re: Taxsystems

[Jonas S. <jo...@jo...>]

On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Dieter Simader wrote:

> If you must keep the taxes separate create an account for incoming
> and outgoing taxes.
>
> 7% VAT collected
> 7% VAT paid
>
> For parts and service you then check all the taxes, VAT paid and VAT
> collected.
>
> Then check "VAT collected" for customers, "VAT paid" for vendors.
>
> When you invoice the items or create a vendor invoice the taxes will be
> posted to the correct accounts.

Thanks!

 - Jonas

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Re: Taxsystems

[Dieter S. <dsi...@sq...>]

If you must keep the taxes separate create an account for incoming
and outgoing taxes.

7% VAT collected
7% VAT paid

For parts and service you then check all the taxes, VAT paid and VAT
collected.

Then check "VAT collected" for customers, "VAT paid" for vendors.

When you invoice the items or create a vendor invoice the taxes will be
posted to the correct accounts.


Dieter Simader    http://www.sql-ledger.org   (780) 472-8161
DWS Systems Inc.     Accounting Software       Fax: 478-5281
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On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Dieter Simader wrote:
> 
> > Finally, you flag your customers and vendors taxable at whatever rate
> > applicable. This may be 7% and 19%, 7% or 19% or no tax.
> 
> > > This is how the Dutch Taxsystem works:
> 
> Oh, one thing that I have become aware of that might be relevant in
> Holland as well (the language sound similar, so why not accounting
> rules?):
> 
> In Denmark incoming (vendor) and outgoing (customer) tax is on separate
> accounts (we need that for the taxation reports).
> 
> What happens in SQL-Ledger is both accounts is offered in Customers and
> Vendors stup, and you should make sure to _disable_ the irrelevant one (or
> they disable each other).
> 
> (please tell me that I am wrong and would I should do to fix my setup)
> 
>  - Jonas
> 
> 

Re: Taxsystems

[Jonas S. <jo...@jo...>]

On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Dieter Simader wrote:

> Finally, you flag your customers and vendors taxable at whatever rate
> applicable. This may be 7% and 19%, 7% or 19% or no tax.

> > This is how the Dutch Taxsystem works:

Oh, one thing that I have become aware of that might be relevant in
Holland as well (the language sound similar, so why not accounting
rules?):

In Denmark incoming (vendor) and outgoing (customer) tax is on separate
accounts (we need that for the taxation reports).

What happens in SQL-Ledger is both accounts is offered in Customers and
Vendors stup, and you should make sure to _disable_ the irrelevant one (or
they disable each other).

(please tell me that I am wrong and would I should do to fix my setup)

 - Jonas

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Spiff ApS (aka. IT-guide dr. Jones ApS) <dr...@jo...> http://dr.jones.dk/
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Re: Taxsystems

[Jonas S. <jo...@jo...>]

On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, AJ Hettema wrote:

> There are 3 different percentages of salestax, 0%, 7% and 19%.
> The government decide's what salestax is used for a product, so you can't
> change that, and it's nationwide.
>
> A company buys a product with a certain salestaxrange. The netprice of the
> product is for instance 100% + 19% = 119%.
> The price for the inventory is the 100% number. WHen the company sells the
> product to the customer, the price of the product is the total of 2 values.
> (inventory-price + profit) + 19% salestax on the sum of these 2 is the
> netprice for the product.
> THe company can get the salestaxes paid to vendors back from the government,
> but it has to pay the government the salestaxes it receives from it's
> customers.

Similar to the danish sytem (except we only have one salestax of 25%).

What I found was the following:

1) Mark your tax accounts as such in account setup. I have "Incoming tax"
marked as "Payables Tax", "Parts Inventory Tax" and "Service Items Tax" -
and "Outgoing tax" the same but "Receivables Tax" instead of "Payables
Tax". You should have a separate account for 7% and 19% tax (technically
the same account can be used for both incoming and outgoing taxes for one
percentage, but common accounting practice in Denmark is to split it up)

2) Add parts and services and select relevant taxes (off, 7% or 19%)

3) Use "Customer Invoice" and "Vendor Invoice". "Add Transaction" means
"turn off taxation autopilot...". What I have done is add a joker Service
for each Expense/Asset account where I want taxes calculated automatically
but without having an inventory for the goods.


Hope that helps,

Jonas

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Re: Taxsystems

[Dieter S. <dsi...@sq...>]

All you need is to setup an account for 7% and 19%.

When you enter your products and services indicate at which level the item
is taxable. (7%, 19% or leave unchecked for 0%)

Finally, you flag your customers and vendors taxable at whatever rate
applicable. This may be 7% and 19%, 7% or 19% or no tax.


Dieter Simader    http://www.sql-ledger.org   (780) 472-8161
DWS Systems Inc.     Accounting Software       Fax: 478-5281
=========== On a clear disk you can seek forever ===========

On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, AJ Hettema wrote:

> hi people,
> 
> I've been wondering how sql-ledger handles the taxes. I can't figure out how 
> salestaxes are being calculated and being moved from and to an account. Can 
> anyone perhaps give me a schematic overview on how sql-ledger handles this??? 
> It would make a big difference if I can map the taxsystem of sql-ledger to the 
> Dutch tax-system. THis taxsystem isn't that hard to understand, but I really 
> can't get a grip on the taxsystem sql-ledger is based on.
> 
> This is how the Dutch Taxsystem works:
> 
> There are 3 different percentages of salestax, 0%, 7% and 19%.
> The government decide's what salestax is used for a product, so you can't 
> change that, and it's nationwide.
> 
> A company buys a product with a certain salestaxrange. The netprice of the 
> product is for instance 100% + 19% = 119%.
> The price for the inventory is the 100% number. WHen the company sells the 
> product to the customer, the price of the product is the total of 2 values. 
> (inventory-price + profit) + 19% salestax on the sum of these 2 is the 
> netprice for the product.
> THe company can get the salestaxes paid to vendors back from the government, 
> but it has to pay the government the salestaxes it receives from it's 
> customers.
> 
> I have tried to figure out how sql-ledger handles the GST + PST + Taxable and 
> more of these features, but I have to little knowledge to get the job done. Is 
> there someone on the developersteam, or one of the users who can help me 
> out??? Otherwise I think I have to say sql-ledger wouldn't be of that mucht 
> value to the dutch market, and I would be very sorry if that happens.
> 
> I also think the taxsystem differs in every country, so I think not only the 
> language should be translated, but also the way sql-ledger handles the 
> taxes???
> 
> I hope someone can help me with this problem.
> 
> thnx in advance
> AJ Hettema
> 
> 
> 

Taxsystems

[AJ H. <Ig...@ec...>]

hi people,

I've been wondering how sql-ledger handles the taxes. I can't figure out how 
salestaxes are being calculated and being moved from and to an account. Can 
anyone perhaps give me a schematic overview on how sql-ledger handles this??? 
It would make a big difference if I can map the taxsystem of sql-ledger to the 
Dutch tax-system. THis taxsystem isn't that hard to understand, but I really 
can't get a grip on the taxsystem sql-ledger is based on.

This is how the Dutch Taxsystem works:

There are 3 different percentages of salestax, 0%, 7% and 19%.
The government decide's what salestax is used for a product, so you can't 
change that, and it's nationwide.

A company buys a product with a certain salestaxrange. The netprice of the 
product is for instance 100% + 19% = 119%.
The price for the inventory is the 100% number. WHen the company sells the 
product to the customer, the price of the product is the total of 2 values. 
(inventory-price + profit) + 19% salestax on the sum of these 2 is the 
netprice for the product.
THe company can get the salestaxes paid to vendors back from the government, 
but it has to pay the government the salestaxes it receives from it's 
customers.

I have tried to figure out how sql-ledger handles the GST + PST + Taxable and 
more of these features, but I have to little knowledge to get the job done. Is 
there someone on the developersteam, or one of the users who can help me 
out??? Otherwise I think I have to say sql-ledger wouldn't be of that mucht 
value to the dutch market, and I would be very sorry if that happens.

I also think the taxsystem differs in every country, so I think not only the 
language should be translated, but also the way sql-ledger handles the 
taxes???

I hope someone can help me with this problem.

thnx in advance
AJ Hettema

RE: Printing Problem

[glantech <gla...@xs...>]

thanx very much......

-----Original Message-----
From: sql...@li...
[mailto:sql...@li...]On Behalf Of Dieter
Simader
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:32 PM
To: sql...@li...
Subject: RE: Printing Problem


The field is reserved for future use. The intention is to send forms /
invoices directly to a printer.


Dieter Simader    http://www.sql-ledger.org   (780) 472-8161
DWS Systems Inc.     Accounting Software       Fax: 478-5281
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On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, glantech wrote:

> yes it does print the invoice onto the screen......what is the printer in
> the preference part of setup?

RE: Printing Problem

[Dieter S. <dsi...@sq...>]

The field is reserved for future use. The intention is to send forms /
invoices directly to a printer.


Dieter Simader    http://www.sql-ledger.org   (780) 472-8161
DWS Systems Inc.     Accounting Software       Fax: 478-5281
=========== On a clear disk you can seek forever ===========

On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, glantech wrote:

> yes it does print the invoice onto the screen......what is the printer in
> the preference part of setup?

Re: Planned development / planned features

[Dieter S. <dsi...@sq...>]

Updates come out at about every other month. Sometimes it takes a
bit longer especially if it is a major rewrite.

Planned features:
a) GUI interface
b) recurring invoices
c) account reconciliation
d) check printing
e) ordering system
f) more managment reports
g) workorder module


These are new features in an unreleased version which will be included in
version 1.6
a) aging reports
b) revised invoices
c) assemblies


Dieter Simader    http://www.sql-ledger.org   (780) 472-8161
DWS Systems Inc.     Accounting Software       Fax: 478-5281
=========== On a clear disk you can seek forever ===========

On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Oscar Buijten wrote:

> Dear Dieter,
> 
> I see that you regularly update the versions of your software. What I
> haven't found it if and what you have planned for the future.
> Obviously there are many things one can imagine to add to a project
> like this. In my case I am really looking for an online solution, not
> only to do my accounting but also to track and trace different sales
> persons with their individual sales commision structures. Fexible
> reporting and I could go on for a while like that (like most of us I
> guess).
> 
> As I am not really a programmer I would like to understand from you
> what your project directions are.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Oscar
> 
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 
> Oscar Buijten
> 
> Tel:     +33.4.67.57.97.45
> Fax:    +33.4.67.57.97.46
> GSM: +33.6.20.84.15.22
> Email: os...@el...
> 
> http://www.elbie.com
> 

RE: Printing Problem

[glantech <gla...@xs...>]

yes it does print the invoice onto the screen......what is the printer in
the preference part of setup?

-----Original Message-----
From: sql...@li...
[mailto:sql...@li...]On Behalf Of Jaco
van Staden
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 1:16 PM
To: sql...@li...
Subject: Re: Printing Problem


What does the 'Print Invoice' button do then...print the invoice
on the screen?


At Monday, 02 July 2001, you wrote:

>glantech wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I want to know if one do "Print Invoice" what printer does sql-ledger
>> uses.The default Linux printer or do you have to set up a printer for
>
>> sql-ledger.
>
>only requirement is that you must be able to print from your browser
>(netscape, ie), since all printing is done through browsers File-
>Print
>menu.
>
>--
>Martin Lillepuu | E-mail: ma...@li... | GSM: +372 51 56 450
>



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Re: Oeps !! => Planned development / planned features ==>> payroll

[Steve D. <sd...@sw...>]

Hi Oscar.

I am working on the payroll stuff and I'll be adding more options for
commissions.  Right now the commision rate box is just a placeholder for
a select box and I'm planning a commissions setup area.

Thanks for the input, and I hope you and others will have more when I
post a link to the payroll stuff for evaluation.

Right now the forms are there, but most of the backend still needs work
and I'm still sorting out some user requirements and flexibility issues,
so it's not quite ready for review.

Thanks again,
Steve

Dutch translation.

[AJ H. <Ig...@ec...>]

hi there,

I have finished the dutch translation of the all-file and I will post it this 
week. I still consider it a little beta cause there might be a slight 
misstranslation. Not on a word-base, but more the exact meaning of a word.
I'll also post the translated templates. I'am still working on the sql file to 
translate the account-description's to dutch. It might be possible I make a 
little modification to the table-structure to be more useable for the dutch 
market. When I do so I will say it as well.

grtz
AJ Hettema

Re: Oeps !! => Planned development / planned features ==>> payroll

[Steve D. <sd...@sw...>]

Oeps !! => Planned development / planned features ==>> payroll

[Oscar B. <os...@el...>]

Dieter,

As I am still 1.4.4 (foolish me!) I hadn't seen your payroll part which =
seems to be under development.

The general part of the question still remains, but for the commsion =
part of the employees I would like to note that it might be smart to =
make the commision calculation more flexible that I have just seen on =
the demo.
Commisions often depend on type of products sold.

If we would relate this to computer and software sales; on hardware is =
less margin that on software.
So on hardware you might want to calculate the commision as a percentage =
of the gross margin and for software as a fixed fee or percentage of the =
sales value.

As many sales people often have different commision contracts this type =
of flexibility would probably appreciated by more people then just me.

Hope it helps.

Regards,


Oscar
  ----- Message d'origine -----=20
  De : Oscar Buijten=20
  =C0 : sql...@li...=20
  Envoy=E9 : lundi 2 juillet 2001 16:21
  Objet : Planned development / planned features


  Dear Dieter,

  I see that you regularly update the versions of your software.
  What I haven't found it if and what you have planned for the future.
  Obviously there are many things one can imagine to add to a project =
like this.
  In my case I am really looking for an online solution, not only to do =
my accounting but also to track and trace different sales persons with =
their individual sales commision structures. Fexible reporting and I =
could go on for a while like that (like most of us I guess).

  As I am not really a programmer I would like to understand from you =
what your project directions are.

  Thanks!


  Regards,


  Oscar

  =
________________________________________________________________________

  Oscar Buijten

  Tel:     +33.4.67.57.97.45
  Fax:    +33.4.67.57.97.46
  GSM: +33.6.20.84.15.22
  Email: os...@el...

  http://www.elbie.com

Planned development / planned features

[Oscar B. <os...@el...>]

Dear Dieter,

I see that you regularly update the versions of your software.
What I haven't found it if and what you have planned for the future.
Obviously there are many things one can imagine to add to a project like =
this.
In my case I am really looking for an online solution, not only to do my =
accounting but also to track and trace different sales persons with =
their individual sales commision structures. Fexible reporting and I =
could go on for a while like that (like most of us I guess).

As I am not really a programmer I would like to understand from you what =
your project directions are.

Thanks!


Regards,


Oscar

________________________________________________________________________

Oscar Buijten

Tel:     +33.4.67.57.97.45
Fax:    +33.4.67.57.97.46
GSM: +33.6.20.84.15.22
Email: os...@el...

http://www.elbie.com

Re: Printing Problem

[Jonas S. <jo...@jo...>]

On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Jaco van Staden wrote:

> What does the 'Print Invoice' button do then...print the invoice
> on the screen?

Well, have a try and push the button, instead of asking on the list (on my
machine it did as you guess...)

:-)

Kind regards,

Jonas

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Re: Printing Problem

[Martin L. <ma...@li...>]

Jaco van Staden wrote:

> What does the 'Print Invoice' button do then...print the invoice 

> on the screen?

afaik, yes.

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Re: Printing Problem

[Roderick A. A. <raa...@ti...>]

On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Jaco van Staden wrote:

> What does the 'Print Invoice' button do then...print the invoice 
> on the screen?

Correct!


Rod
-- 
                 Remove the word 'try' from your vocabulary ... 
                     Don't try.  Do it or don't do it ...
                                Steers try!

                                                            Don Aslett

Re: Printing Problem

[Jaco v. S. <ja...@cy...>]

What does the 'Print Invoice' button do then...print the invoice 
on the screen?


At Monday, 02 July 2001, you wrote:

>glantech wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I want to know if one do "Print Invoice" what printer does sql-ledger
>> uses.The default Linux printer or do you have to set up a printer for
>
>> sql-ledger.
>
>only requirement is that you must be able to print from your browser 
>(netscape, ie), since all printing is done through browsers File-
>Print 
>menu.
>
>--
>Martin Lillepuu | E-mail: ma...@li... | GSM: +372 51 56 450
>



-- 
Jaco van Staden
Cyber Seal, Enterprise Software Development
Tell: +27 82 927 5513, Fax: +27 12 998 0249,
http://www.cyberseal.co.za