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From: Alexandru P. <the...@ez...> - 2005-03-23 00:54:07
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Hi! I saw in the ML that the Hibernate3 support is in CVS HEAD already. Can you point me to the main changes provided in the Spring support for Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2? (i expected there where changes required by the changes (from check to unchecked) exceptions in Hibernate3 and for supporting the new features, but it will be more easy for me to have a Spring expert opinion on this). many thanks in advance, -- :alex |.::the_mindstorm::.| |
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From: Alexandru P. <the...@ez...> - 2005-03-23 10:01:22
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Hi! I saw in the ML that the Hibernate3 support is in CVS HEAD already. Can you point me to the main changes provided in the Spring support for Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2? (i expected there where changes required by the changes (from check to unchecked) exceptions in Hibernate3 and for supporting the new features, but it will be more easy for me to have a Spring expert opinion on this). many thanks in advance, -- :alex |.::the_mindstorm::.| |
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From: Colin S. <col...@ex...> - 2005-03-23 15:10:28
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Alexandru Popescu wrote: >Hi! > >I saw in the ML that the Hibernate3 support is in CVS HEAD already. Can you point me to the main >changes provided in the Spring support for Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2? (i expected there where changes >required by the changes (from check to unchecked) exceptions in Hibernate3 and for supporting the >new features, but it will be more easy for me to have a Spring expert opinion on this). > > Alex, Juergen did the actual conversion, so is the final authority, but the port is mostly a straight port of the existing classes to reflect the new packages used by Hibernate 3. One difference in Hibernate 3 is that Hibernate 3 does throw unchecked exceptions instead of checked exceptions, but Spring users should actually be insulated from that, as they would have normally be catching Spring's own unchcked DataAccessExceptionHierarchy. Spring's HibernateTemplate class for Hibernate v3 does add the important methods added to v3's Session, such as the 'load()' variants which take an entityName, e.g.: http://www.hibernate.org/hib_docs/v3/api/ Generally, you should be able to take existing Spring-based code using the Hibernate 2 support, and convert it to using the Hibernate 3 support, by just changing all org.springframework.hibernate.* package names to org.springframework.hibernate3.*. Any breakage (not that you should generally expect any) should generally be from changes in Hibernate itself between versions, and not the Spring support code. Note that Hibernate has actually deprecated a few methods on the Session interface (they are only available now as part of the org.hibernate.classic.Session interface. I believe HibernateTemplate has also removed some of the methods which were directly exposed and are now deprecated. Colin |
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From: Mark St G. <stg...@ca...> - 2005-03-23 15:23:57
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Yeah Alex,
For me (as an Eclipse user) it was just an exercise in CTRL-Shift-O to
reference the new APIs... and to also change
the applicationContext XML to reference the new LocalSessionFactoryBean...
Note: I was not using Annotations at this point on this current project...
so it was pretty straightforward
Cheers
Mark
Colin Sampaleanu
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Re: [Springframework-developer]
Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2
03/23/2005 09:10
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Alexandru Popescu wrote:
>Hi!
>
>I saw in the ML that the Hibernate3 support is in CVS HEAD already. Can
you point me to the main
>changes provided in the Spring support for Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2? (i
expected there where changes
>required by the changes (from check to unchecked) exceptions in Hibernate3
and for supporting the
>new features, but it will be more easy for me to have a Spring expert
opinion on this).
>
>
Alex,
Juergen did the actual conversion, so is the final authority, but the
port is mostly a straight port of the existing classes to reflect the
new packages used by Hibernate 3. One difference in Hibernate 3 is that
Hibernate 3 does throw unchecked exceptions instead of checked
exceptions, but Spring users should actually be insulated from that, as
they would have normally be catching Spring's own unchcked
DataAccessExceptionHierarchy. Spring's HibernateTemplate class for
Hibernate v3 does add the important methods added to v3's Session, such
as the 'load()' variants which take an entityName, e.g.:
http://www.hibernate.org/hib_docs/v3/api/
Generally, you should be able to take existing Spring-based code using
the Hibernate 2 support, and convert it to using the Hibernate 3
support, by just changing all org.springframework.hibernate.* package
names to org.springframework.hibernate3.*. Any breakage (not that you
should generally expect any) should generally be from changes in
Hibernate itself between versions, and not the Spring support code. Note
that Hibernate has actually deprecated a few methods on the Session
interface (they are only available now as part of the
org.hibernate.classic.Session interface. I believe HibernateTemplate has
also removed some of the methods which were directly exposed and are now
deprecated.
Colin
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From: Alexandru P. <the...@ez...> - 2005-03-23 17:01:21
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Thanks everybody for your answers. My case is pretty uncommon: i am trying to integrate the H3 support into the existing stable 1.1.5 version. You may ask why this? I need some of the features from H3 (simple, ain't it :-) ). So, being a week old Spring user (in fact i haven't write a single line of code, so I would say Spring researcher) I thought it would be a good idea to ask the developers if my feeling was right. -- :alex |.::the_mindstorm::.| [quote Mark St Godard::on 3/23/2005 5:23 PM] > > > > Yeah Alex, > > For me (as an Eclipse user) it was just an exercise in CTRL-Shift-O to > reference the new APIs... and to also change > the applicationContext XML to reference the new LocalSessionFactoryBean... > > Note: I was not using Annotations at this point on this current project... > so it was pretty straightforward > > Cheers > Mark > > > > Colin Sampaleanu > <col...@ex... > m> To > Sent by: spr...@li... > springframework-d rceforge.net > eveloper-admin@li cc > sts.sourceforge.n > et Subject > Re: [Springframework-developer] > Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2 > 03/23/2005 09:10 > AM > > > Please respond to > springframework-d > eveloper > > > > > > > Alexandru Popescu wrote: > >>Hi! >> >>I saw in the ML that the Hibernate3 support is in CVS HEAD already. Can > you point me to the main >>changes provided in the Spring support for Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2? (i > expected there where changes >>required by the changes (from check to unchecked) exceptions in Hibernate3 > and for supporting the >>new features, but it will be more easy for me to have a Spring expert > opinion on this). >> >> > Alex, > > Juergen did the actual conversion, so is the final authority, but the > port is mostly a straight port of the existing classes to reflect the > new packages used by Hibernate 3. One difference in Hibernate 3 is that > Hibernate 3 does throw unchecked exceptions instead of checked > exceptions, but Spring users should actually be insulated from that, as > they would have normally be catching Spring's own unchcked > DataAccessExceptionHierarchy. Spring's HibernateTemplate class for > Hibernate v3 does add the important methods added to v3's Session, such > as the 'load()' variants which take an entityName, e.g.: > http://www.hibernate.org/hib_docs/v3/api/ > > Generally, you should be able to take existing Spring-based code using > the Hibernate 2 support, and convert it to using the Hibernate 3 > support, by just changing all org.springframework.hibernate.* package > names to org.springframework.hibernate3.*. Any breakage (not that you > should generally expect any) should generally be from changes in > Hibernate itself between versions, and not the Spring support code. Note > that Hibernate has actually deprecated a few methods on the Session > interface (they are only available now as part of the > org.hibernate.classic.Session interface. I believe HibernateTemplate has > also removed some of the methods which were directly exposed and are now > deprecated. > > Colin > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: 2005 Windows Mobile Application Contest > Submit applications for Windows Mobile(tm)-based Pocket PCs or Smartphones > for the chance to win $25,000 and application distribution. Enter today at > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6882&alloc_id=15148&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: 2005 Windows Mobile Application Contest > Submit applications for Windows Mobile(tm)-based Pocket PCs or Smartphones > for the chance to win $25,000 and application distribution. Enter today at > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6882&alloc_id=15148&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > |
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From: Mark St G. <stg...@ca...> - 2005-03-23 17:18:26
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Alex,
I would just wait until .. I think tomorow.. Juergen is going to be
releasing Spring 1.2 RC1... which has Hibernate3 support.
OR
if you cant wait until tomorow (or soon afterwards)... just get the CVS
HEAD... its all there..
Cheers
Mark
Alexandru Popescu
<the_mindstorm@ez
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Re: [Springframework-developer]
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03/23/2005 11:00
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Please respond to
springframework-d
eveloper
Thanks everybody for your answers. My case is pretty uncommon: i am trying
to integrate the H3
support into the existing stable 1.1.5 version.
You may ask why this? I need some of the features from H3 (simple, ain't it
:-) ). So, being a week
old Spring user (in fact i haven't write a single line of code, so I would
say Spring researcher) I
thought it would be a good idea to ask the developers if my feeling was
right.
--
:alex |.::the_mindstorm::.|
[quote Mark St Godard::on 3/23/2005 5:23 PM]
>
>
>
> Yeah Alex,
>
> For me (as an Eclipse user) it was just an exercise in CTRL-Shift-O to
> reference the new APIs... and to also change
> the applicationContext XML to reference the new
LocalSessionFactoryBean...
>
> Note: I was not using Annotations at this point on this current
project...
> so it was pretty straightforward
>
> Cheers
> Mark
>
>
>
> Colin Sampaleanu
> <col...@ex...
> m>
To
> Sent by:
spr...@li...
> springframework-d rceforge.net
> eveloper-admin@li
cc
> sts.sourceforge.n
> et
Subject
> Re: [Springframework-developer]
> Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2
> 03/23/2005 09:10
> AM
>
>
> Please respond to
> springframework-d
> eveloper
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Alexandru Popescu wrote:
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>I saw in the ML that the Hibernate3 support is in CVS HEAD already. Can
> you point me to the main
>>changes provided in the Spring support for Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2? (i
> expected there where changes
>>required by the changes (from check to unchecked) exceptions in
Hibernate3
> and for supporting the
>>new features, but it will be more easy for me to have a Spring expert
> opinion on this).
>>
>>
> Alex,
>
> Juergen did the actual conversion, so is the final authority, but the
> port is mostly a straight port of the existing classes to reflect the
> new packages used by Hibernate 3. One difference in Hibernate 3 is that
> Hibernate 3 does throw unchecked exceptions instead of checked
> exceptions, but Spring users should actually be insulated from that, as
> they would have normally be catching Spring's own unchcked
> DataAccessExceptionHierarchy. Spring's HibernateTemplate class for
> Hibernate v3 does add the important methods added to v3's Session, such
> as the 'load()' variants which take an entityName, e.g.:
> http://www.hibernate.org/hib_docs/v3/api/
>
> Generally, you should be able to take existing Spring-based code using
> the Hibernate 2 support, and convert it to using the Hibernate 3
> support, by just changing all org.springframework.hibernate.* package
> names to org.springframework.hibernate3.*. Any breakage (not that you
> should generally expect any) should generally be from changes in
> Hibernate itself between versions, and not the Spring support code. Note
> that Hibernate has actually deprecated a few methods on the Session
> interface (they are only available now as part of the
> org.hibernate.classic.Session interface. I believe HibernateTemplate has
> also removed some of the methods which were directly exposed and are now
> deprecated.
>
> Colin
>
>
>
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From: Alexandru P. <the...@ez...> - 2005-03-23 17:35:47
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[quote Mark St Godard::on 3/23/2005 7:18 PM] > > > > Alex, > > I would just wait until .. I think tomorow.. Juergen is going to be > releasing Spring 1.2 RC1... which has Hibernate3 support. > OR > if you cant wait until tomorow (or soon afterwards)... just get the CVS > HEAD... its all there.. > Yep, it would be really simple to have time to wait,ain't it. But you cannot deliver a product based on a CVS HEAD or an RC unfortunately (not because of the quality of the code - which i already started to trust ;-), but because of lack of full adoption and so testing it in real-world scenarios). -- :alex |.::the_mindstorm::.| > Cheers > Mark > > > > > > Alexandru Popescu > <the_mindstorm@ez > legacy.com> To > Sent by: spr...@li... > springframework-d rceforge.net > eveloper-admin@li cc > sts.sourceforge.n > et Subject > Re: [Springframework-developer] > Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2 > 03/23/2005 11:00 > AM > > > Please respond to > springframework-d > eveloper > > > > > > > Thanks everybody for your answers. My case is pretty uncommon: i am trying > to integrate the H3 > support into the existing stable 1.1.5 version. > You may ask why this? I need some of the features from H3 (simple, ain't it > :-) ). So, being a week > old Spring user (in fact i haven't write a single line of code, so I would > say Spring researcher) I > thought it would be a good idea to ask the developers if my feeling was > right. > > -- > :alex |.::the_mindstorm::.| > > [quote Mark St Godard::on 3/23/2005 5:23 PM] >> >> >> >> Yeah Alex, >> >> For me (as an Eclipse user) it was just an exercise in CTRL-Shift-O to >> reference the new APIs... and to also change >> the applicationContext XML to reference the new > LocalSessionFactoryBean... >> >> Note: I was not using Annotations at this point on this current > project... >> so it was pretty straightforward >> >> Cheers >> Mark >> >> >> > >> Colin Sampaleanu > >> <col...@ex... > >> m> > To >> Sent by: > spr...@li... >> springframework-d rceforge.net > >> eveloper-admin@li > cc >> sts.sourceforge.n > >> et > Subject >> Re: [Springframework-developer] > >> Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2 > >> 03/23/2005 09:10 > >> AM > >> > >> > >> Please respond to > >> springframework-d > >> eveloper > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> Alexandru Popescu wrote: >> >>>Hi! >>> >>>I saw in the ML that the Hibernate3 support is in CVS HEAD already. Can >> you point me to the main >>>changes provided in the Spring support for Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2? (i >> expected there where changes >>>required by the changes (from check to unchecked) exceptions in > Hibernate3 >> and for supporting the >>>new features, but it will be more easy for me to have a Spring expert >> opinion on this). >>> >>> >> Alex, >> >> Juergen did the actual conversion, so is the final authority, but the >> port is mostly a straight port of the existing classes to reflect the >> new packages used by Hibernate 3. One difference in Hibernate 3 is that >> Hibernate 3 does throw unchecked exceptions instead of checked >> exceptions, but Spring users should actually be insulated from that, as >> they would have normally be catching Spring's own unchcked >> DataAccessExceptionHierarchy. Spring's HibernateTemplate class for >> Hibernate v3 does add the important methods added to v3's Session, such >> as the 'load()' variants which take an entityName, e.g.: >> http://www.hibernate.org/hib_docs/v3/api/ >> >> Generally, you should be able to take existing Spring-based code using >> the Hibernate 2 support, and convert it to using the Hibernate 3 >> support, by just changing all org.springframework.hibernate.* package >> names to org.springframework.hibernate3.*. Any breakage (not that you >> should generally expect any) should generally be from changes in >> Hibernate itself between versions, and not the Spring support code. Note >> that Hibernate has actually deprecated a few methods on the Session >> interface (they are only available now as part of the >> org.hibernate.classic.Session interface. I believe HibernateTemplate has >> also removed some of the methods which were directly exposed and are now >> deprecated. >> >> Colin >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: 2005 Windows Mobile Application > Contest >> Submit applications for Windows Mobile(tm)-based Pocket PCs or > Smartphones >> for the chance to win $25,000 and application distribution. Enter today > at >> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6882&alloc_id=15148&op=click >> _______________________________________________ >> Springframework-developer mailing list >> Spr...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: 2005 Windows Mobile Application > Contest >> Submit applications for Windows Mobile(tm)-based Pocket PCs or > Smartphones >> for the chance to win $25,000 and application distribution. 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From: Juergen H. <ju...@in...> - 2005-03-23 17:40:54
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Or download a recent nightly snapshot from http://www.springframework.org/downloads/nightly/ Juergen -----Original Message----- From: spr...@li... [mailto:spr...@li...]On Behalf Of Mark St Godard Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 6:18 PM To: spr...@li... Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2 Alex, I would just wait until .. I think tomorow.. Juergen is going to be releasing Spring 1.2 RC1... which has Hibernate3 support. OR if you cant wait until tomorow (or soon afterwards)... just get the CVS HEAD... its all there.. Cheers Mark Alexandru Popescu <the_mindstorm@ez legacy.com> To Sent by: spr...@li... springframework-d rceforge.net eveloper-admin@li cc sts.sourceforge.n et Subject Re: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2 03/23/2005 11:00 AM Please respond to springframework-d eveloper Thanks everybody for your answers. My case is pretty uncommon: i am trying to integrate the H3 support into the existing stable 1.1.5 version. You may ask why this? I need some of the features from H3 (simple, ain't it :-) ). So, being a week old Spring user (in fact i haven't write a single line of code, so I would say Spring researcher) I thought it would be a good idea to ask the developers if my feeling was right. -- :alex |.::the_mindstorm::.| [quote Mark St Godard::on 3/23/2005 5:23 PM] > > > > Yeah Alex, > > For me (as an Eclipse user) it was just an exercise in CTRL-Shift-O to > reference the new APIs... and to also change > the applicationContext XML to reference the new LocalSessionFactoryBean... > > Note: I was not using Annotations at this point on this current project... > so it was pretty straightforward > > Cheers > Mark > > > > Colin Sampaleanu > <col...@ex... > m> To > Sent by: spr...@li... > springframework-d rceforge.net > eveloper-admin@li cc > sts.sourceforge.n > et Subject > Re: [Springframework-developer] > Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2 > 03/23/2005 09:10 > AM > > > Please respond to > springframework-d > eveloper > > > > > > > Alexandru Popescu wrote: > >>Hi! >> >>I saw in the ML that the Hibernate3 support is in CVS HEAD already. Can > you point me to the main >>changes provided in the Spring support for Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2? (i > expected there where changes >>required by the changes (from check to unchecked) exceptions in Hibernate3 > and for supporting the >>new features, but it will be more easy for me to have a Spring expert > opinion on this). >> >> > Alex, > > Juergen did the actual conversion, so is the final authority, but the > port is mostly a straight port of the existing classes to reflect the > new packages used by Hibernate 3. One difference in Hibernate 3 is that > Hibernate 3 does throw unchecked exceptions instead of checked > exceptions, but Spring users should actually be insulated from that, as > they would have normally be catching Spring's own unchcked > DataAccessExceptionHierarchy. Spring's HibernateTemplate class for > Hibernate v3 does add the important methods added to v3's Session, such > as the 'load()' variants which take an entityName, e.g.: > http://www.hibernate.org/hib_docs/v3/api/ > > Generally, you should be able to take existing Spring-based code using > the Hibernate 2 support, and convert it to using the Hibernate 3 > support, by just changing all org.springframework.hibernate.* package > names to org.springframework.hibernate3.*. Any breakage (not that you > should generally expect any) should generally be from changes in > Hibernate itself between versions, and not the Spring support code. Note > that Hibernate has actually deprecated a few methods on the Session > interface (they are only available now as part of the > org.hibernate.classic.Session interface. I believe HibernateTemplate has > also removed some of the methods which were directly exposed and are now > deprecated. > > Colin > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: 2005 Windows Mobile Application Contest > Submit applications for Windows Mobile(tm)-based Pocket PCs or Smartphones > for the chance to win $25,000 and application distribution. Enter today at > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6882&alloc_id=15148&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: 2005 Windows Mobile Application Contest > Submit applications for Windows Mobile(tm)-based Pocket PCs or Smartphones > for the chance to win $25,000 and application distribution. Enter today at > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6882&alloc_id=15148&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by Microsoft Mobile & Embedded DevCon 2005 Attend MEDC 2005 May 9-12 in Vegas. Learn more about the latest Windows Embedded(r) & Windows Mobile(tm) platforms, applications & content. Register by 3/29 & save $300 http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6883&alloc_id=15149&op=click _______________________________________________ Springframework-developer mailing list Spr...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by Microsoft Mobile & Embedded DevCon 2005 Attend MEDC 2005 May 9-12 in Vegas. 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From: Rod J. <ro...@in...> - 2005-03-24 10:11:34
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Well Spring 1.2 RC1 is a day or two away and it's probably as stable as Hibernate 3.0 RC1. R Alexandru Popescu wrote: > Thanks everybody for your answers. My case is pretty uncommon: i am trying to integrate the H3 > support into the existing stable 1.1.5 version. > You may ask why this? I need some of the features from H3 (simple, ain't it :-) ). So, being a week > old Spring user (in fact i haven't write a single line of code, so I would say Spring researcher) I > thought it would be a good idea to ask the developers if my feeling was right. > > -- > :alex |.::the_mindstorm::.| > > [quote Mark St Godard::on 3/23/2005 5:23 PM] > >> >> >>Yeah Alex, >> >>For me (as an Eclipse user) it was just an exercise in CTRL-Shift-O to >>reference the new APIs... and to also change >>the applicationContext XML to reference the new LocalSessionFactoryBean... >> >>Note: I was not using Annotations at this point on this current project... >>so it was pretty straightforward >> >>Cheers >>Mark >> >> >> >> Colin Sampaleanu >> <col...@ex... >> m> To >> Sent by: spr...@li... >> springframework-d rceforge.net >> eveloper-admin@li cc >> sts.sourceforge.n >> et Subject >> Re: [Springframework-developer] >> Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2 >> 03/23/2005 09:10 >> AM >> >> >> Please respond to >> springframework-d >> eveloper >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Alexandru Popescu wrote: >> >> >>>Hi! >>> >>>I saw in the ML that the Hibernate3 support is in CVS HEAD already. Can >> >>you point me to the main >> >>>changes provided in the Spring support for Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2? (i >> >>expected there where changes >> >>>required by the changes (from check to unchecked) exceptions in Hibernate3 >> >>and for supporting the >> >>>new features, but it will be more easy for me to have a Spring expert >> >>opinion on this). >> >>> >>Alex, >> >>Juergen did the actual conversion, so is the final authority, but the >>port is mostly a straight port of the existing classes to reflect the >>new packages used by Hibernate 3. One difference in Hibernate 3 is that >>Hibernate 3 does throw unchecked exceptions instead of checked >>exceptions, but Spring users should actually be insulated from that, as >>they would have normally be catching Spring's own unchcked >>DataAccessExceptionHierarchy. Spring's HibernateTemplate class for >>Hibernate v3 does add the important methods added to v3's Session, such >>as the 'load()' variants which take an entityName, e.g.: >> http://www.hibernate.org/hib_docs/v3/api/ >> >>Generally, you should be able to take existing Spring-based code using >>the Hibernate 2 support, and convert it to using the Hibernate 3 >>support, by just changing all org.springframework.hibernate.* package >>names to org.springframework.hibernate3.*. Any breakage (not that you >>should generally expect any) should generally be from changes in >>Hibernate itself between versions, and not the Spring support code. Note >>that Hibernate has actually deprecated a few methods on the Session >>interface (they are only available now as part of the >>org.hibernate.classic.Session interface. I believe HibernateTemplate has >>also removed some of the methods which were directly exposed and are now >>deprecated. >> >>Colin >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.net email is sponsored by: 2005 Windows Mobile Application Contest >>Submit applications for Windows Mobile(tm)-based Pocket PCs or Smartphones >>for the chance to win $25,000 and application distribution. Enter today at >>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6882&alloc_id=15148&op=click >>_______________________________________________ >>Springframework-developer mailing list >>Spr...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.net email is sponsored by: 2005 Windows Mobile Application Contest >>Submit applications for Windows Mobile(tm)-based Pocket PCs or Smartphones >>for the chance to win $25,000 and application distribution. Enter today at >>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6882&alloc_id=15148&op=click >>_______________________________________________ >>Springframework-developer mailing list >>Spr...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Microsoft Mobile & Embedded DevCon 2005 > Attend MEDC 2005 May 9-12 in Vegas. Learn more about the latest Windows > Embedded(r) & Windows Mobile(tm) platforms, applications & content. 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From: Cameron B. <ca...@br...> - 2005-03-24 12:10:01
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My 2c contribution : I have been using hibernate 3.0 rc1, and a custom spring snapshot from HEAD since the http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/spring/browse/SPR-300 patches were comitted to HEAD - the for the last 3 weeks - without any issues - in production sites. One site being an ecommerce shopping site http://www.chemistaustralia.com.au/ which uses the Criteria API a lot, and the other http://www.drivenow.com.au/ a last minute car hire site which makes heavy use of HQL. Both the spring project and hibernate have a very high standard for their pre-releases. Cameron. > -----Original Message----- > From: spr...@li... > [mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf > Of Rod Johnson > Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2005 8:06 PM > To: spr...@li... > Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2 > > Well Spring 1.2 RC1 is a day or two away and it's probably as stable as > Hibernate 3.0 RC1. > > R > > Alexandru Popescu wrote: > > Thanks everybody for your answers. My case is pretty uncommon: i am > trying to integrate the H3 > > support into the existing stable 1.1.5 version. > > You may ask why this? I need some of the features from H3 (simple, ain't > it :-) ). So, being a week > > old Spring user (in fact i haven't write a single line of code, so I > would say Spring researcher) I > > thought it would be a good idea to ask the developers if my feeling was > right. > > > > -- > > :alex |.::the_mindstorm::.| > > > > [quote Mark St Godard::on 3/23/2005 5:23 PM] > > > >> > >> > >>Yeah Alex, > >> > >>For me (as an Eclipse user) it was just an exercise in CTRL-Shift-O to > >>reference the new APIs... and to also change > >>the applicationContext XML to reference the new > LocalSessionFactoryBean... > >> > >>Note: I was not using Annotations at this point on this current > project... > >>so it was pretty straightforward > >> > >>Cheers > >>Mark > >> > >> > >> > >> Colin Sampaleanu > >> <col...@ex... > >> m> > To > >> Sent by: springframework- > dev...@li... > >> springframework-d rceforge.net > >> eveloper-admin@li > cc > >> sts.sourceforge.n > >> et > Subject > >> Re: [Springframework-developer] > >> Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2 > >> 03/23/2005 09:10 > >> AM > >> > >> > >> Please respond to > >> springframework-d > >> eveloper > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Alexandru Popescu wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Hi! > >>> > >>>I saw in the ML that the Hibernate3 support is in CVS HEAD already. Can > >> > >>you point me to the main > >> > >>>changes provided in the Spring support for Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2? (i > >> > >>expected there where changes > >> > >>>required by the changes (from check to unchecked) exceptions in > Hibernate3 > >> > >>and for supporting the > >> > >>>new features, but it will be more easy for me to have a Spring expert > >> > >>opinion on this). > >> > >>> > >>Alex, > >> > >>Juergen did the actual conversion, so is the final authority, but the > >>port is mostly a straight port of the existing classes to reflect the > >>new packages used by Hibernate 3. One difference in Hibernate 3 is that > >>Hibernate 3 does throw unchecked exceptions instead of checked > >>exceptions, but Spring users should actually be insulated from that, as > >>they would have normally be catching Spring's own unchcked > >>DataAccessExceptionHierarchy. Spring's HibernateTemplate class for > >>Hibernate v3 does add the important methods added to v3's Session, such > >>as the 'load()' variants which take an entityName, e.g.: > >> http://www.hibernate.org/hib_docs/v3/api/ > >> > >>Generally, you should be able to take existing Spring-based code using > >>the Hibernate 2 support, and convert it to using the Hibernate 3 > >>support, by just changing all org.springframework.hibernate.* package > >>names to org.springframework.hibernate3.*. Any breakage (not that you > >>should generally expect any) should generally be from changes in > >>Hibernate itself between versions, and not the Spring support code. Note > >>that Hibernate has actually deprecated a few methods on the Session > >>interface (they are only available now as part of the > >>org.hibernate.classic.Session interface. I believe HibernateTemplate has > >>also removed some of the methods which were directly exposed and are now > >>deprecated. > >> > >>Colin > >> > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------- > >>This SF.net email is sponsored by: 2005 Windows Mobile Application > Contest > >>Submit applications for Windows Mobile(tm)-based Pocket PCs or > Smartphones > >>for the chance to win $25,000 and application distribution. Enter today > at > >>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6882&alloc_id=15148&op=click > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Springframework-developer mailing list > >>Spr...@li... > >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------- > >>This SF.net email is sponsored by: 2005 Windows Mobile Application > Contest > >>Submit applications for Windows Mobile(tm)-based Pocket PCs or > Smartphones > >>for the chance to win $25,000 and application distribution. Enter today > at > >>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6882&alloc_id=15148&op=click > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Springframework-developer mailing list > >>Spr...@li... > >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by Microsoft Mobile & Embedded DevCon > 2005 > > Attend MEDC 2005 May 9-12 in Vegas. Learn more about the latest Windows > > Embedded(r) & Windows Mobile(tm) platforms, applications & content. > Register > > by 3/29 & save $300 > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6883&alloc_id=15149&op=click > > _______________________________________________ > > Springframework-developer mailing list > > Spr...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > -- > Rod Johnson > Interface21 - Spring Services from the Source > http://www.springframework.com > > Founder, Spring Framework: > http://www.springframework.org > > Author, "Expert One-on-One J2EE Development Without EJB" > (May 2004, with Juergen Hoeller). > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0764558315/ > > Author, "Expert One-on-One J2EE Design and Development" > (October 2002). > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764543857/ > > > ____________________________________________________ > Interface21 Limited > Registered Office Summit House, 2-2a Highfield Road, Dartford, Kent DA1 > 2JY > Registered in England and Wales No. 5187766 > ____________________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Microsoft Mobile & Embedded DevCon 2005 > Attend MEDC 2005 May 9-12 in Vegas. 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From: Juergen H. <ju...@in...> - 2005-03-24 13:17:57
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Hi Cameron, As you're mentioning those two sites so publically ;-) Do you think we we could include them in our public reference list for Spring? We're about to collect some references for exposure on the Spring website. Our main problem is that public references in the banking sector (where some of the largest Spring deployments are) are usually impossible to get. Therefore, we're particularly grateful for references that we're allowed to use on our website! Thanks for your kind words on the quality of our snapshots, BTW :-) Juergen -----Original Message----- From: spr...@li... [mailto:spr...@li...]On Behalf Of Cameron Braid Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:10 PM To: spr...@li... Subject: RE: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2 My 2c contribution : I have been using hibernate 3.0 rc1, and a custom spring snapshot from HEAD since the http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/spring/browse/SPR-300 patches were comitted to HEAD - the for the last 3 weeks - without any issues - in production sites. One site being an ecommerce shopping site http://www.chemistaustralia.com.au/ which uses the Criteria API a lot, and the other http://www.drivenow.com.au/ a last minute car hire site which makes heavy use of HQL. Both the spring project and hibernate have a very high standard for their pre-releases. Cameron. > -----Original Message----- > From: spr...@li... > [mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf > Of Rod Johnson > Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2005 8:06 PM > To: spr...@li... > Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2 > > Well Spring 1.2 RC1 is a day or two away and it's probably as stable as > Hibernate 3.0 RC1. > > R > > Alexandru Popescu wrote: > > Thanks everybody for your answers. My case is pretty uncommon: i am > trying to integrate the H3 > > support into the existing stable 1.1.5 version. > > You may ask why this? I need some of the features from H3 (simple, ain't > it :-) ). So, being a week > > old Spring user (in fact i haven't write a single line of code, so I > would say Spring researcher) I > > thought it would be a good idea to ask the developers if my feeling was > right. > > > > -- > > :alex |.::the_mindstorm::.| > > > > [quote Mark St Godard::on 3/23/2005 5:23 PM] > > > >> > >> > >>Yeah Alex, > >> > >>For me (as an Eclipse user) it was just an exercise in CTRL-Shift-O to > >>reference the new APIs... and to also change > >>the applicationContext XML to reference the new > LocalSessionFactoryBean... > >> > >>Note: I was not using Annotations at this point on this current > project... > >>so it was pretty straightforward > >> > >>Cheers > >>Mark > >> > >> > >> > >> Colin Sampaleanu > >> <col...@ex... > >> m> > To > >> Sent by: springframework- > dev...@li... > >> springframework-d rceforge.net > >> eveloper-admin@li > cc > >> sts.sourceforge.n > >> et > Subject > >> Re: [Springframework-developer] > >> Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2 > >> 03/23/2005 09:10 > >> AM > >> > >> > >> Please respond to > >> springframework-d > >> eveloper > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Alexandru Popescu wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Hi! > >>> > >>>I saw in the ML that the Hibernate3 support is in CVS HEAD already. Can > >> > >>you point me to the main > >> > >>>changes provided in the Spring support for Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2? (i > >> > >>expected there where changes > >> > >>>required by the changes (from check to unchecked) exceptions in > Hibernate3 > >> > >>and for supporting the > >> > >>>new features, but it will be more easy for me to have a Spring expert > >> > >>opinion on this). > >> > >>> > >>Alex, > >> > >>Juergen did the actual conversion, so is the final authority, but the > >>port is mostly a straight port of the existing classes to reflect the > >>new packages used by Hibernate 3. One difference in Hibernate 3 is that > >>Hibernate 3 does throw unchecked exceptions instead of checked > >>exceptions, but Spring users should actually be insulated from that, as > >>they would have normally be catching Spring's own unchcked > >>DataAccessExceptionHierarchy. Spring's HibernateTemplate class for > >>Hibernate v3 does add the important methods added to v3's Session, such > >>as the 'load()' variants which take an entityName, e.g.: > >> http://www.hibernate.org/hib_docs/v3/api/ > >> > >>Generally, you should be able to take existing Spring-based code using > >>the Hibernate 2 support, and convert it to using the Hibernate 3 > >>support, by just changing all org.springframework.hibernate.* package > >>names to org.springframework.hibernate3.*. Any breakage (not that you > >>should generally expect any) should generally be from changes in > >>Hibernate itself between versions, and not the Spring support code. Note > >>that Hibernate has actually deprecated a few methods on the Session > >>interface (they are only available now as part of the > >>org.hibernate.classic.Session interface. I believe HibernateTemplate has > >>also removed some of the methods which were directly exposed and are now > >>deprecated. > >> > >>Colin > >> > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------- > >>This SF.net email is sponsored by: 2005 Windows Mobile Application > Contest > >>Submit applications for Windows Mobile(tm)-based Pocket PCs or > Smartphones > >>for the chance to win $25,000 and application distribution. Enter today > at > >>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6882&alloc_id=15148&op=click > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Springframework-developer mailing list > >>Spr...@li... > >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------- > >>This SF.net email is sponsored by: 2005 Windows Mobile Application > Contest > >>Submit applications for Windows Mobile(tm)-based Pocket PCs or > Smartphones > >>for the chance to win $25,000 and application distribution. Enter today > at > >>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6882&alloc_id=15148&op=click > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Springframework-developer mailing list > >>Spr...@li... > >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by Microsoft Mobile & Embedded DevCon > 2005 > > Attend MEDC 2005 May 9-12 in Vegas. Learn more about the latest Windows > > Embedded(r) & Windows Mobile(tm) platforms, applications & content. > Register > > by 3/29 & save $300 > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6883&alloc_id=15149&op=click > > _______________________________________________ > > Springframework-developer mailing list > > Spr...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > -- > Rod Johnson > Interface21 - Spring Services from the Source > http://www.springframework.com > > Founder, Spring Framework: > http://www.springframework.org > > Author, "Expert One-on-One J2EE Development Without EJB" > (May 2004, with Juergen Hoeller). > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0764558315/ > > Author, "Expert One-on-One J2EE Design and Development" > (October 2002). > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764543857/ > > > ____________________________________________________ > Interface21 Limited > Registered Office Summit House, 2-2a Highfield Road, Dartford, Kent DA1 > 2JY > Registered in England and Wales No. 5187766 > ____________________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Microsoft Mobile & Embedded DevCon 2005 > Attend MEDC 2005 May 9-12 in Vegas. Learn more about the latest Windows > Embedded(r) & Windows Mobile(tm) platforms, applications & content. > Register > by 3/29 & save $300 > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6883&alloc_id=15149&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by Microsoft Mobile & Embedded DevCon 2005 Attend MEDC 2005 May 9-12 in Vegas. Learn more about the latest Windows Embedded(r) & Windows Mobile(tm) platforms, applications & content. Register by 3/29 & save $300 http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6883&alloc_id=15149&op=click _______________________________________________ Springframework-developer mailing list Spr...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer |
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From: Seth L. <set...@gm...> - 2005-03-24 18:31:39
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:17:17 +0100, Juergen Hoeller <ju...@in...> wrote: > Hi Cameron, > > As you're mentioning those two sites so publically ;-) Do you think we we > could include them in our public reference list for Spring? We're about to > collect some references for exposure on the Spring website. You can also use http://pahoehoe.ehawaii.gov/BizEx as a reference. Seth -- <a href="http://www.picklematrix.net/foaf.rdf">Seth Ladd's FOAF</a> <a href="http://www.foaf-project.org/">What is FOAF?</a> |
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From: Dmitriy K. <dko...@ru...> - 2005-03-24 20:49:09
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You could put this one too: https://www.acs.rutgers.edu/gradadmission/newApplicant.app It's Rutgers' graduate admissions online application (the first app that was built with Spring. We actually started building this system with book download of i21 code base) :-) Dmitriy. Seth Ladd wrote: >On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:17:17 +0100, Juergen Hoeller ><ju...@in...> wrote: > > >>Hi Cameron, >> >>As you're mentioning those two sites so publically ;-) Do you think we we >>could include them in our public reference list for Spring? We're about to >>collect some references for exposure on the Spring website. >> >> > > >You can also use http://pahoehoe.ehawaii.gov/BizEx as a reference. > >Seth > > > > |
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From: Mark St G. <stg...@ca...> - 2005-03-23 15:05:09
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Alex,
I have been using the HEAD with Hibernate3 support.... things that I
noted....
- all Spring hibernate 3 packages are under a new package (which will
affect your DAOs... and config)
i.e. org.springframework.orm.hibernate3
<!-- Hibernate SessionFactory -->
<bean id="sessionFactory" class=
"org.springframework.orm.hibernate3.LocalSessionFactoryBean">
<property name="dataSource">
<ref local="dataSource" />
</property>
- Hibernate3 changed their top level package from net.sf.hibernate ->
org.hibernate
So I had to change some of my DAOs to use the new API (org.hibernate)....
as well as use the new HibernateDaoSupport
(org.springframework.orm.hibernate3)
for example...
import org.hibernate.HibernateException;
import org.springframework.orm.hibernate3.support.HibernateDaoSupport;
and yes... Hibernate3 is now using a runtime exception for
org.hibernate.HibernateException ... ahhh....
Cheers
Mark
Alexandru Popescu
<the_mindstorm@ez
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[Springframework-developer]
Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2
03/22/2005 06:52
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springframework-d
eveloper
Hi!
I saw in the ML that the Hibernate3 support is in CVS HEAD already. Can you
point me to the main
changes provided in the Spring support for Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2? (i
expected there where changes
required by the changes (from check to unchecked) exceptions in Hibernate3
and for supporting the
new features, but it will be more easy for me to have a Spring expert
opinion on this).
many thanks in advance,
--
:alex |.::the_mindstorm::.|
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