[Springframework-developer] Public references

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Hi Cameron,

As you're mentioning those two sites so publically ;-) Do you think we we
could include them in our public reference list for Spring? We're about to
collect some references for exposure on the Spring website.

Our main problem is that public references in the banking sector (where some
of the largest Spring deployments are) are usually impossible to get.
Therefore, we're particularly grateful for references that we're allowed to
use on our website!

Thanks for your kind words on the quality of our snapshots, BTW :-)

Juergen

-----Original Message-----
From: spr...@li...
[mailto:spr...@li...]On Behalf
Of Cameron Braid
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:10 PM
To: spr...@li...
Subject: RE: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2

My 2c contribution :

I have been using hibernate 3.0 rc1, and a custom spring snapshot from HEAD
since the http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/spring/browse/SPR-300
patches were comitted to HEAD - the for the last 3 weeks - without any
issues - in production sites.  One site being an ecommerce shopping site
http://www.chemistaustralia.com.au/  which uses the Criteria API a lot, and
the other http://www.drivenow.com.au/  a last minute car hire site which
makes heavy use of HQL.

Both the spring project and hibernate have a very high standard for their
pre-releases.

Cameron.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: spr...@li...
> [mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf
> Of Rod Johnson
> Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2005 8:06 PM
> To: spr...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2
>
> Well Spring 1.2 RC1 is a day or two away and it's probably as stable as
> Hibernate 3.0 RC1.
>
> R
>
> Alexandru Popescu wrote:
> > Thanks everybody for your answers. My case is pretty uncommon: i am
> trying to integrate the H3
> > support into the existing stable 1.1.5 version.
> > You may ask why this? I need some of the features from H3 (simple, ain't
> it :-) ). So, being a week
> > old Spring user (in fact i haven't write a single line of code, so I
> would say Spring researcher) I
> > thought it would be a good idea to ask the developers if my feeling was
> right.
> >
> > --
> > :alex |.::the_mindstorm::.|
> >
> > [quote Mark St Godard::on 3/23/2005 5:23 PM]
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>Yeah Alex,
> >>
> >>For me (as an Eclipse user) it was just an exercise in CTRL-Shift-O to
> >>reference the new APIs...   and to also change
> >>the applicationContext XML to reference the new
> LocalSessionFactoryBean...
> >>
> >>Note: I was not using Annotations at this point on this current
> project...
> >>so it was pretty straightforward
> >>
> >>Cheers
> >>Mark
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>             Colin Sampaleanu
> >>             <col...@ex...
> >>             m>
> To
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> Subject
> >>                                       Re: [Springframework-developer]
> >>                                       Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2
> >>             03/23/2005 09:10
> >>             AM
> >>
> >>
> >>             Please respond to
> >>             springframework-d
> >>                 eveloper
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Alexandru Popescu wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi!
> >>>
> >>>I saw in the ML that the Hibernate3 support is in CVS HEAD already. Can
> >>
> >>you point me to the main
> >>
> >>>changes provided in the Spring support for Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2? (i
> >>
> >>expected there where changes
> >>
> >>>required by the changes (from check to unchecked) exceptions in
> Hibernate3
> >>
> >>and for supporting the
> >>
> >>>new features, but it will be more easy for me to have a Spring expert
> >>
> >>opinion on this).
> >>
> >>>
> >>Alex,
> >>
> >>Juergen did the actual conversion, so is the final authority, but the
> >>port is mostly a straight port of the existing classes to reflect the
> >>new packages used by Hibernate 3. One difference in Hibernate 3 is that
> >>Hibernate 3 does throw unchecked exceptions instead of checked
> >>exceptions, but Spring users should actually be insulated from that, as
> >>they would have normally be catching Spring's own unchcked
> >>DataAccessExceptionHierarchy. Spring's HibernateTemplate class for
> >>Hibernate v3 does add the important methods added to v3's Session, such
> >>as the 'load()' variants which take an entityName, e.g.:
> >>  http://www.hibernate.org/hib_docs/v3/api/
> >>
> >>Generally, you should be able to take existing Spring-based code using
> >>the Hibernate 2 support, and convert it to using the Hibernate 3
> >>support, by just changing all org.springframework.hibernate.* package
> >>names to org.springframework.hibernate3.*. Any breakage (not that you
> >>should generally expect any) should generally be from changes in
> >>Hibernate itself between versions, and not the Spring support code. Note
> >>that Hibernate has actually deprecated a few methods on the Session
> >>interface (they are only available now as part of the
> >>org.hibernate.classic.Session interface. I believe HibernateTemplate has
> >>also removed some of the methods which were directly exposed and are now
> >>deprecated.
> >>
> >>Colin
> >>
> >>
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