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From: <jue...@we...> - 2004-08-14 19:00:35
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Everybody, =20 From my point of view, Spring 1.1 final is ready for release; the only = remaining point is documentation. There's no reference docs on the HTTP = invoker yet, for example: While this is not too critical, I'll try to = add docs on it till Monday. =20 Feel free to give the current CVS snapshot a final try, and to do some = final proof-reading of the docs! Please report any issues ASAP: I = currently plan to do the release Monday night, provided that there are = no showstoppers. =20 Juergen |
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From: Darren D. <da...@da...> - 2004-08-14 19:23:06
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=2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 14 August 2004 20:03, j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] wrote: > Everybody, > > From my point of view, Spring 1.1 final is ready for release; the only > remaining point is documentation. There's no reference docs on the HTTP > invoker yet, for example: While this is not too critical, I'll try to add > docs on it till Monday. > > Feel free to give the current CVS snapshot a final try, and to do some > final proof-reading of the docs! Please report any issues ASAP: I > currently plan to do the release Monday night, provided that there are no > showstoppers. I'll have the Velocity & FreeMarker form rendering macros ready to commit=20 tonight or tomorrow - they're working pretty well now - but the docs may=20 take a day or two longer. =20 =2D --=20 Darren Davison Public Key: http://www.davison.uk.net/pages/key.htm =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBHmaKKLMLAN01aw0RArmdAJ9TsBw/CRzFeJkbh5u7yLb2EFQ+YwCcCZvp Ks0gKuK/+VrGviu6SIET8Sg=3D =3DJvk4 =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: Rod J. <ro...@in...> - 2004-08-14 21:08:14
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Great! I haven't documented the new "factory-bean" attribute that supports the = use of instance (rather than static) factory methods in the Reference Manual yet. (It is documented in the DTD.) Doesn't justify holding the release, = but worth noting. (Hint, hint.) Unfortunately I won't have time to do this myself before the release. -----Original Message----- From: spr...@li... [mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf = Of j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] Sent: 14 August 2004 20:04 To: spr...@li... Subject: [Springframework-developer] Preparing for Spring 1.1 final Everybody, =20 >From my point of view, Spring 1.1 final is ready for release; the only remaining point is documentation. There's no reference docs on the HTTP invoker yet, for example: While this is not too critical, I'll try to = add docs on it till Monday. =20 Feel free to give the current CVS snapshot a final try, and to do some = final proof-reading of the docs! Please report any issues ASAP: I currently = plan to do the release Monday night, provided that there are no showstoppers. =20 Juergen ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media = 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 _______________________________________________ Springframework-developer mailing list Spr...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer |
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From: Eugene K. <eu...@pl...> - 2004-08-14 22:55:08
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Hi, I wonder if there is any chance that SPR-251 JIRA could be resolved for 1.1 release? Thank you. Eugene Rod Johnson wrote: > I haven't documented the new "factory-bean" attribute that supports the use > of instance (rather than static) factory methods in the Reference Manual > yet. (It is documented in the DTD.) Doesn't justify holding the release, but > worth noting. (Hint, hint.) > > Unfortunately I won't have time to do this myself before the release. > > -----Original Message----- > From: spr...@li... > [mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf Of > jürgen höller [werk3AT] > Sent: 14 August 2004 20:04 > To: spr...@li... > Subject: [Springframework-developer] Preparing for Spring 1.1 final > > Everybody, > >>From my point of view, Spring 1.1 final is ready for release; the only > remaining point is documentation. There's no reference docs on the HTTP > invoker yet, for example: While this is not too critical, I'll try to add > docs on it till Monday. > > Feel free to give the current CVS snapshot a final try, and to do some final > proof-reading of the docs! Please report any issues ASAP: I currently plan > to do the release Monday night, provided that there are no showstoppers. |
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From: Thomas R. <tho...@tr...> - 2004-08-16 00:47:57
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Eugene, I'll try to take a look at this in the next couple of days. From an initial look at the problem it seems to be more of a WebLogic issue. Have you tried running the same code in WLS 8.1? First I'm going to try to reproduce this locally - you woldn't happen to have the client code that calls this EJB? Thomas Eugene Kuleshov wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder if there is any chance that SPR-251 JIRA could be resolved > for 1.1 release? > > Thank you. > > Eugene > > Rod Johnson wrote: > >> I haven't documented the new "factory-bean" attribute that supports >> the use >> of instance (rather than static) factory methods in the Reference Manual >> yet. (It is documented in the DTD.) Doesn't justify holding the >> release, but >> worth noting. (Hint, hint.) >> >> Unfortunately I won't have time to do this myself before the release. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: spr...@li... >> [mailto:spr...@li...] On >> Behalf Of >> jürgen höller [werk3AT] >> Sent: 14 August 2004 20:04 >> To: spr...@li... >> Subject: [Springframework-developer] Preparing for Spring 1.1 final >> >> Everybody, >> >> >>> From my point of view, Spring 1.1 final is ready for release; the only >> >> remaining point is documentation. There's no reference docs on the HTTP >> invoker yet, for example: While this is not too critical, I'll try to >> add >> docs on it till Monday. >> >> Feel free to give the current CVS snapshot a final try, and to do >> some final >> proof-reading of the docs! Please report any issues ASAP: I currently >> plan >> to do the release Monday night, provided that there are no showstoppers. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media > 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 > Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. > http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > |
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From: Eugene K. <eu...@pl...> - 2004-08-16 01:17:52
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Hi Thomas, I'll try to run that code on wls 8 and will attach clent junit test to JIRA tomorrow morning. regards, Eugene Thomas Risberg wrote: > I'll try to take a look at this in the next couple of days. From an > initial look at the problem it seems to be more of a WebLogic issue. > Have you tried running the same code in WLS 8.1? > > First I'm going to try to reproduce this locally - you woldn't happen to > have the client code that calls this EJB? > > Thomas > > > Eugene Kuleshov wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I wonder if there is any chance that SPR-251 JIRA could be resolved >> for 1.1 release? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Eugene >> >> Rod Johnson wrote: >> >>> I haven't documented the new "factory-bean" attribute that supports >>> the use >>> of instance (rather than static) factory methods in the Reference Manual >>> yet. (It is documented in the DTD.) Doesn't justify holding the >>> release, but >>> worth noting. (Hint, hint.) >>> >>> Unfortunately I won't have time to do this myself before the release. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: spr...@li... >>> [mailto:spr...@li...] On >>> Behalf Of >>> jürgen höller [werk3AT] >>> Sent: 14 August 2004 20:04 >>> To: spr...@li... >>> Subject: [Springframework-developer] Preparing for Spring 1.1 final >>> >>> Everybody, >>> >>> >>>> From my point of view, Spring 1.1 final is ready for release; the only >>> >>> >>> remaining point is documentation. There's no reference docs on the HTTP >>> invoker yet, for example: While this is not too critical, I'll try to >>> add >>> docs on it till Monday. >>> >>> Feel free to give the current CVS snapshot a final try, and to do >>> some final >>> proof-reading of the docs! Please report any issues ASAP: I currently >>> plan >>> to do the release Monday night, provided that there are no showstoppers. |
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From: Thomas R. <tho...@tr...> - 2004-08-16 05:39:06
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I was able to reproduce the error using WLS 8.1SP2. The following code
did fix the problem and I did not get the nullpointer exception.
package org.springframework.transaction.jta;
public class WebLogicJtaTransactionManager extends JtaTransactionManager {
protected void doResume(Object transaction, Object suspendedResources) {
try {
super.doResume(transaction, suspendedResources);
} catch
(org.springframework.transaction.IllegalTransactionStateException ex) {
logger.debug("ForceResuming: " + suspendedResources.toString());
weblogic.transaction.TransactionManager wtm =
(weblogic.transaction.TransactionManager) getTransactionManager();
wtm.forceResume((javax.transaction.Transaction) suspendedResources);
}
}
}
I have attached a spring-weblogic-jta-patch.jar containing this class to
JIRA. If you could test with this jar together with the most recent
1.1RC1 spring.jar to see if it works in your environment. If not I will
have to investigate further using WLS 7.0.
Thomas
Eugene Kuleshov wrote:
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> I'll try to run that code on wls 8 and will attach clent junit test
> to JIRA tomorrow morning.
>
> regards,
> Eugene
>
>
> Thomas Risberg wrote:
>
>> I'll try to take a look at this in the next couple of days. From an
>> initial look at the problem it seems to be more of a WebLogic issue.
>> Have you tried running the same code in WLS 8.1?
>>
>> First I'm going to try to reproduce this locally - you woldn't happen
>> to have the client code that calls this EJB?
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>> Eugene Kuleshov wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I wonder if there is any chance that SPR-251 JIRA could be
>>> resolved for 1.1 release?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Eugene
>>>
>>> Rod Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>>> I haven't documented the new "factory-bean" attribute that supports
>>>> the use
>>>> of instance (rather than static) factory methods in the Reference
>>>> Manual
>>>> yet. (It is documented in the DTD.) Doesn't justify holding the
>>>> release, but
>>>> worth noting. (Hint, hint.)
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately I won't have time to do this myself before the release.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: spr...@li...
>>>> [mailto:spr...@li...] On
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> jürgen höller [werk3AT]
>>>> Sent: 14 August 2004 20:04
>>>> To: spr...@li...
>>>> Subject: [Springframework-developer] Preparing for Spring 1.1 final
>>>>
>>>> Everybody,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From my point of view, Spring 1.1 final is ready for release; the
>>>>> only
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> remaining point is documentation. There's no reference docs on the
>>>> HTTP
>>>> invoker yet, for example: While this is not too critical, I'll try
>>>> to add
>>>> docs on it till Monday.
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to give the current CVS snapshot a final try, and to do
>>>> some final
>>>> proof-reading of the docs! Please report any issues ASAP: I
>>>> currently plan
>>>> to do the release Monday night, provided that there are no
>>>> showstoppers.
>>>
>
>
>
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From: Colin S. <col...@ex...> - 2004-08-15 15:50:10
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I'll document this some time today, and look for any other low-hanging fruit... Rod Johnson wrote: >Great! > >I haven't documented the new "factory-bean" attribute that supports the use >of instance (rather than static) factory methods in the Reference Manual >yet. (It is documented in the DTD.) Doesn't justify holding the release, but >worth noting. (Hint, hint.) > >Unfortunately I won't have time to do this myself before the release. > >-----Original Message----- >From: spr...@li... >[mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf Of >jürgen höller [werk3AT] >Sent: 14 August 2004 20:04 >To: spr...@li... >Subject: [Springframework-developer] Preparing for Spring 1.1 final > >Everybody, > >>From my point of view, Spring 1.1 final is ready for release; the only >remaining point is documentation. There's no reference docs on the HTTP >invoker yet, for example: While this is not too critical, I'll try to add >docs on it till Monday. > >Feel free to give the current CVS snapshot a final try, and to do some final >proof-reading of the docs! Please report any issues ASAP: I currently plan >to do the release Monday night, provided that there are no showstoppers. > >Juergen > > |
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From: Rod J. <ro...@in...> - 2004-08-15 16:19:01
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Cheers Colin.=20 -----Original Message----- From: spr...@li... [mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf = Of Colin Sampaleanu Sent: 15 August 2004 16:49 To: spr...@li... Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Preparing for Spring 1.1 final I'll document this some time today, and look for any other low-hanging fruit... Rod Johnson wrote: >Great! > >I haven't documented the new "factory-bean" attribute that supports the = >use of instance (rather than static) factory methods in the Reference=20 >Manual yet. (It is documented in the DTD.) Doesn't justify holding the=20 >release, but worth noting. (Hint, hint.) > >Unfortunately I won't have time to do this myself before the release. > >-----Original Message----- >From: spr...@li... >[mailto:spr...@li...] On=20 >Behalf Of j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] >Sent: 14 August 2004 20:04 >To: spr...@li... >Subject: [Springframework-developer] Preparing for Spring 1.1 final > >Everybody, >=20 >>From my point of view, Spring 1.1 final is ready for release; the only >remaining point is documentation. There's no reference docs on the HTTP = >invoker yet, for example: While this is not too critical, I'll try to=20 >add docs on it till Monday. >=20 >Feel free to give the current CVS snapshot a final try, and to do some=20 >final proof-reading of the docs! Please report any issues ASAP: I=20 >currently plan to do the release Monday night, provided that there are = no showstoppers. >=20 >Juergen > =20 > ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media = 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 _______________________________________________ Springframework-developer mailing list Spr...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer |
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From: Colin S. <col...@ex...> - 2004-08-16 05:25:57
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I've documented this, and also added text in the manual in the AOP and transaction sections talking about the more concise form for defining multiple proxies which can share some properties, by using parent/child bean definitions, along with an inner bean for the proxy target. I'm actually of the opinion that we should change our samples to use this form, for the TransactionProxyFactoryBean cases. I can't think of a reason why somebody would ever not use the parent/child form when defining more than a couple of transaction proxies. I realize our samples don't have many proxies, but people are going to copy those as best-form, boilerplate code, and wind up with much more verbose definitions than they really need to have. Regards, Colin Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > I'll document this some time today, and look for any other low-hanging > fruit... > > Rod Johnson wrote: > >> Great! >> >> I haven't documented the new "factory-bean" attribute that supports >> the use >> of instance (rather than static) factory methods in the Reference Manual >> yet. (It is documented in the DTD.) Doesn't justify holding the >> release, but >> worth noting. (Hint, hint.) >> >> Unfortunately I won't have time to do this myself before the release. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: spr...@li... >> [mailto:spr...@li...] On >> Behalf Of >> jürgen höller [werk3AT] >> Sent: 14 August 2004 20:04 >> To: spr...@li... >> Subject: [Springframework-developer] Preparing for Spring 1.1 final >> >> Everybody, >> >>> From my point of view, Spring 1.1 final is ready for release; the only >> >> remaining point is documentation. There's no reference docs on the HTTP >> invoker yet, for example: While this is not too critical, I'll try to >> add >> docs on it till Monday. >> >> Feel free to give the current CVS snapshot a final try, and to do >> some final >> proof-reading of the docs! Please report any issues ASAP: I currently >> plan >> to do the release Monday night, provided that there are no showstoppers. >> >> Juergen > |
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From: Rod J. <ro...@in...> - 2004-08-16 05:52:30
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Thanks! Yes, we should definitely stress the more concise form. I'll = look at the reference manual material as soon as I can and give my views on emphasis.=20 -----Original Message----- From: spr...@li... [mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf = Of Colin Sampaleanu Sent: 16 August 2004 06:25 To: spr...@li... Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Preparing for Spring 1.1 final I've documented this, and also added text in the manual in the AOP and transaction sections talking about the more concise form for defining multiple proxies which can share some properties, by using parent/child = bean definitions, along with an inner bean for the proxy target. I'm actually of the opinion that we should change our samples to use = this form, for the TransactionProxyFactoryBean cases. I can't think of a = reason why somebody would ever not use the parent/child form when defining more than a couple of transaction proxies. I realize our samples don't have = many proxies, but people are going to copy those as best-form, boilerplate = code, and wind up with much more verbose definitions than they really need to have. Regards, Colin Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > I'll document this some time today, and look for any other low-hanging = > fruit... > > Rod Johnson wrote: > >> Great! >> >> I haven't documented the new "factory-bean" attribute that supports=20 >> the use of instance (rather than static) factory methods in the=20 >> Reference Manual yet. (It is documented in the DTD.) Doesn't justify=20 >> holding the release, but worth noting. (Hint, hint.) >> >> Unfortunately I won't have time to do this myself before the release. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: spr...@li... >> [mailto:spr...@li...] On=20 >> Behalf Of j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] >> Sent: 14 August 2004 20:04 >> To: spr...@li... >> Subject: [Springframework-developer] Preparing for Spring 1.1 final >> >> Everybody, >> >>> From my point of view, Spring 1.1 final is ready for release; the=20 >>> only >> >> remaining point is documentation. There's no reference docs on the=20 >> HTTP invoker yet, for example: While this is not too critical, I'll=20 >> try to add docs on it till Monday. >> >> Feel free to give the current CVS snapshot a final try, and to do=20 >> some final proof-reading of the docs! Please report any issues ASAP:=20 >> I currently plan to do the release Monday night, provided that there=20 >> are no showstoppers. >> >> Juergen > ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media = 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 _______________________________________________ Springframework-developer mailing list Spr...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer |
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From: Colin S. <col...@ex...> - 2004-08-16 17:54:57
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I've gone through the jpetstore and petclinic apps and modified them to define transaction proxies in the more concise form. I've also generated a new version of the docs and updated the web site. I will update at least one more time after we finally release... Colin Rod Johnson wrote: >Thanks! Yes, we should definitely stress the more concise form. I'll look at >the reference manual material as soon as I can and give my views on >emphasis. > >-----Original Message----- >From: spr...@li... >[mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf Of >Colin Sampaleanu >Sent: 16 August 2004 06:25 >To: spr...@li... >Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Preparing for Spring 1.1 final > >I've documented this, and also added text in the manual in the AOP and >transaction sections talking about the more concise form for defining >multiple proxies which can share some properties, by using parent/child bean >definitions, along with an inner bean for the proxy target. > >I'm actually of the opinion that we should change our samples to use this >form, for the TransactionProxyFactoryBean cases. I can't think of a reason >why somebody would ever not use the parent/child form when defining more >than a couple of transaction proxies. I realize our samples don't have many >proxies, but people are going to copy those as best-form, boilerplate code, >and wind up with much more verbose definitions than they really need to >have. > >Regards, >Colin > >Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > > > >>I'll document this some time today, and look for any other low-hanging >>fruit... >> >>Rod Johnson wrote: >> >> >> >>>Great! >>> >>>I haven't documented the new "factory-bean" attribute that supports >>>the use of instance (rather than static) factory methods in the >>>Reference Manual yet. (It is documented in the DTD.) Doesn't justify >>>holding the release, but worth noting. (Hint, hint.) >>> >>>Unfortunately I won't have time to do this myself before the release. >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: spr...@li... >>>[mailto:spr...@li...] On >>>Behalf Of jürgen höller [werk3AT] >>>Sent: 14 August 2004 20:04 >>>To: spr...@li... >>>Subject: [Springframework-developer] Preparing for Spring 1.1 final >>> >>>Everybody, >>> >>> >>> >>>>From my point of view, Spring 1.1 final is ready for release; the >>>>only >>>> >>>> >>>remaining point is documentation. There's no reference docs on the >>>HTTP invoker yet, for example: While this is not too critical, I'll >>>try to add docs on it till Monday. >>> >>>Feel free to give the current CVS snapshot a final try, and to do >>>some final proof-reading of the docs! Please report any issues ASAP: >>>I currently plan to do the release Monday night, provided that there >>>are no showstoppers. >>> >>>Juergen >>> >>> |
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From: <tho...@tr...> - 2004-08-16 18:24:10
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Colin, I don't see any coverage of WebApplicationContextUtils for using getWebApplicationContext in the Reference Docs Chapter 3 - maybe we should add that to document how to show how to get hold of the context for apps that don't use any particular MVC framework. Thomas Quoting Colin Sampaleanu <col...@ex...>: > I've gone through the jpetstore and petclinic apps and modified them to > define transaction proxies in the more concise form. > > I've also generated a new version of the docs and updated the web site. > I will update at least one more time after we finally release... > > Colin > > > Rod Johnson wrote: > > >Thanks! Yes, we should definitely stress the more concise form. I'll look at > >the reference manual material as soon as I can and give my views on > >emphasis. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: spr...@li... > >[mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf Of > >Colin Sampaleanu > >Sent: 16 August 2004 06:25 > >To: spr...@li... > >Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Preparing for Spring 1.1 final > > > >I've documented this, and also added text in the manual in the AOP and > >transaction sections talking about the more concise form for defining > >multiple proxies which can share some properties, by using parent/child bean > >definitions, along with an inner bean for the proxy target. > > > >I'm actually of the opinion that we should change our samples to use this > >form, for the TransactionProxyFactoryBean cases. I can't think of a reason > >why somebody would ever not use the parent/child form when defining more > >than a couple of transaction proxies. I realize our samples don't have many > >proxies, but people are going to copy those as best-form, boilerplate code, > >and wind up with much more verbose definitions than they really need to > >have. > > > >Regards, > >Colin > > > >Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > > > > > > > >>I'll document this some time today, and look for any other low-hanging > >>fruit... > >> > >>Rod Johnson wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Great! > >>> > >>>I haven't documented the new "factory-bean" attribute that supports > >>>the use of instance (rather than static) factory methods in the > >>>Reference Manual yet. (It is documented in the DTD.) Doesn't justify > >>>holding the release, but worth noting. (Hint, hint.) > >>> > >>>Unfortunately I won't have time to do this myself before the release. > >>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: spr...@li... > >>>[mailto:spr...@li...] On > >>>Behalf Of jürgen höller [werk3AT] > >>>Sent: 14 August 2004 20:04 > >>>To: spr...@li... > >>>Subject: [Springframework-developer] Preparing for Spring 1.1 final > >>> > >>>Everybody, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>From my point of view, Spring 1.1 final is ready for release; the > >>>>only > >>>> > >>>> > >>>remaining point is documentation. There's no reference docs on the > >>>HTTP invoker yet, for example: While this is not too critical, I'll > >>>try to add docs on it till Monday. > >>> > >>>Feel free to give the current CVS snapshot a final try, and to do > >>>some final proof-reading of the docs! Please report any issues ASAP: > >>>I currently plan to do the release Monday night, provided that there > >>>are no showstoppers. > >>> > >>>Juergen > >>> > >>> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media > 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 > Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. > http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > |
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From: Daniel M. <mi...@pa...> - 2004-08-16 21:38:59
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Juergen, I haven't noticed you posting any comments to the new Spring forum (I may= be blind, please forgive me if I missed them). You may want to have a lo= ok at this issue before you release 1.1 final: http://forum.springframework.org/viewtopic.php?t=3D108 Thanks. Daniel Miller j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] wrote: > Everybody, > =20 >>From my point of view, Spring 1.1 final is ready for release; the only = remaining point is documentation. There's no reference docs on the HTTP i= nvoker yet, for example: While this is not too critical, I'll try to add = docs on it till Monday. > =20 > Feel free to give the current CVS snapshot a final try, and to do some = final proof-reading of the docs! Please report any issues ASAP: I current= ly plan to do the release Monday night, provided that there are no showst= oppers. > =20 > Juergen >=20 |
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From: James C. <jim...@do...> - 2004-08-16 22:12:38
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A little too dramatic? :) Actually, I think there was talk about sending an email to registered users wasn't there? This would be a big help staying up on the news. I love (equally dramatic) the searching esp. if we can get SF archives imported and the massive usability improvement over SF. But, without an email or digest, I can't seem to stay up with the posts. My interests in Spring span most of the categories, so that's lots of clicking around. And the "posts since last login" doesn't work well at all. How are the developers coping? |
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From: Colin S. <col...@ex...> - 2004-08-17 02:55:49
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I actually find the sum total significantly more producting than the old combo of bad SF forums and the user mailing list. At the top level, I can see at a glance which forums have unread topics, and within a forum see the actual unread topics. The "posts since last login" seems to work fine for me. I can also with one click, see unanswered posts. Now my perspective is not that of someone who is just trying to read every post, but rather as someone has to try to answer a good number of posts, and help verify that the others get answered). When I consider that before this had to be done for the crappy old forums _and_ the mailing list, there's just no question that in terms of my abilities to help answer questions, we're in a better place now. My perception is also that somebody coming in who needs to just find an answer to a question, is going to have an easier time, in terms of search, in terms of joining (vs. a mailing list), and in terms of being notified when there's an answer to his question. I agree that somebody who just wants to see every single post coming by probably has a harder time, but that's probably not the primary role of the _support_ venue... There is a digest mod available for phpBB, which can mail out digests of all the posts on a daily or weekly basis. The main issues are that it is third party, so it has to be basically hand merged into all the templates available on the site (we have 6-7 templates offered). Aside from the fairly significant work to get it in in the first palce, it's fragile if the template or phpBB have to be updated, or other mods have to go in. The next version of phpBB (2.2 compared to our present 2.0x) will allow subscribing to get all new posts as individual emails, for each forum. Unfortunately while they are in some sort of very long beta, there's no defined time for when this will be stable. We could also just pay $160 or so and move to vBulletin, which while commercial, is pretty cheap, and has enhanced threading and email functionality built-in... Colin James Cook wrote: >A little too dramatic? :) > >Actually, I think there was talk about sending an email to registered users >wasn't there? This would be a big help staying up on the news. > >I love (equally dramatic) the searching esp. if we can get SF archives >imported and the massive usability improvement over SF. But, without an >email or digest, I can't seem to stay up with the posts. > >My interests in Spring span most of the categories, so that's lots of >clicking around. And the "posts since last login" doesn't work well at all. >How are the developers coping? > > |
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From: Seth L. <set...@gm...> - 2004-08-17 06:11:25
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> each forum. Unfortunately while they are in some sort of very long beta, > there's no defined time for when this will be stable. We could also just > pay $160 or so and move to vBulletin, which while commercial, is pretty > cheap, and has enhanced threading and email functionality built-in... If there is considerable interest, I'd be happy to fund the purchase of vBulletin. But, of course, if a new version of phpBB is coming, we can always wait. seth |
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From: James C. <jim...@do...> - 2004-08-17 12:55:42
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Count me in for a contribution. -----Original Message----- From: spr...@li... [mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf Of Seth Ladd Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:10 AM To: spr...@li... Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] I hate the forum > each forum. Unfortunately while they are in some sort of very long beta, > there's no defined time for when this will be stable. We could also just > pay $160 or so and move to vBulletin, which while commercial, is pretty > cheap, and has enhanced threading and email functionality built-in... If there is considerable interest, I'd be happy to fund the purchase of vBulletin. But, of course, if a new version of phpBB is coming, we can always wait. seth ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 _______________________________________________ Springframework-developer mailing list Spr...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer |
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From: Rod J. <ro...@in...> - 2004-08-17 22:56:21
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>Count me in for a contribution. Thanks for the offer: it's fantastic to see people so committed to the welfare of Spring! Thanks also for the users who are helping others out in the forums... As it happens, we're about to announce a company (Interface21) headed by myself and Juergen which will provide Spring services and help to fund future Spring development (for example, to pay Juergen to continue to be Juergen :-) Interface21 could meet the costs for such a piece of software (it's paying for the hosting for the forums already). However, in this case, I think that we'd be better to wait for the latest version of phpBB. I like the present forums, Colin has put a lot of work into them already, and I'd be reluctant to change horses mid-stream. I should add that personally I find the forums just wonderful--really quick and a pleasant experience. So much so that I've posted far more often than I have recently to spring-user... I find for example, that even when I'm on a client site, I can take 15 minutes out of my lunch break and do a couple of posts--just finding anything I could quickly contribute in the haystack that was spring-user used to take longer than that... -----Original Message----- From: spr...@li... [mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf Of Seth Ladd Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:10 AM To: spr...@li... Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] I hate the forum > each forum. Unfortunately while they are in some sort of very long > beta, there's no defined time for when this will be stable. We could > also just pay $160 or so and move to vBulletin, which while > commercial, is pretty cheap, and has enhanced threading and email functionality built-in... If there is considerable interest, I'd be happy to fund the purchase of vBulletin. But, of course, if a new version of phpBB is coming, we can always wait. seth ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 _______________________________________________ Springframework-developer mailing list Spr...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 _______________________________________________ Springframework-developer mailing list Spr...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer |
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From: Pavel T. <pa...@ts...> - 2004-08-20 13:35:38
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Please stay away from vBulletin. I help maintain a couple of websites, some running vBulletin 3 (and vBPortal, and PHPGallery), and some running phpBB2. From a user-perspective, the experience is almost identical between the two forums and vBulletin has been a nightmare for me from a admin point of view. What I did like quite a lot was this: http://www.phpbbfm.net. Just my 2c. I'm not against commercial software, but in this case it just doesn't deliver in my experience. Best regards, Pavel On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 08:10:24PM -1000, Seth Ladd wrote: > > each forum. Unfortunately while they are in some sort of very long beta, > > there's no defined time for when this will be stable. We could also just > > pay $160 or so and move to vBulletin, which while commercial, is pretty > > cheap, and has enhanced threading and email functionality built-in... > > If there is considerable interest, I'd be happy to fund the purchase > of vBulletin. But, of course, if a new version of phpBB is coming, we > can always wait. > > seth |
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From: Colin S. <col...@ex...> - 2004-08-20 15:44:20
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Thanks for the feedback. From the research I have done there seem to be a lot of people that have had a pretty good experience moving from phpBB to vBulletin; I wasn't really able to find much in the way of negative experiences. The enhanced admin functionality was actually one reason why a lot of people mentioned switching. For me extra functionality on the admin side is not a big deal, but I am attracted to the built-in ability to do email digests/tracking of entire forums, and the built-in printable view. They are coming in the new phpBB 2.2, but all signs are that that version is 3-6 months away at least, based on they pace they release at. While the new forums are great for people wanting to get an answer to a question, there is a group of people that want to read all the mail and use it as a learning source that would be helped by the enhanced mail handling capabilities. I'll take a look at the fully modded variant, although I'd be a bit worried in using that, in terms of being able to quickly upgrade if there security hotfixes... Colin Pavel Tcholakov wrote: >Please stay away from vBulletin. > >I help maintain a couple of websites, some running vBulletin 3 (and vBPortal, >and PHPGallery), and some running phpBB2. From a user-perspective, the >experience is almost identical between the two forums and vBulletin has been a >nightmare for me from a admin point of view. > >What I did like quite a lot was this: http://www.phpbbfm.net. > >Just my 2c. I'm not against commercial software, but in this case it just >doesn't deliver in my experience. > >Best regards, >Pavel > >On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 08:10:24PM -1000, Seth Ladd wrote: > > >>>each forum. Unfortunately while they are in some sort of very long beta, >>>there's no defined time for when this will be stable. We could also just >>>pay $160 or so and move to vBulletin, which while commercial, is pretty >>>cheap, and has enhanced threading and email functionality built-in... >>> >>> >>If there is considerable interest, I'd be happy to fund the purchase >>of vBulletin. But, of course, if a new version of phpBB is coming, we >>can always wait. >> >>seth >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------- >SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media >100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 >Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. >http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 >_______________________________________________ >Springframework-developer mailing list >Spr...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > |
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From: Keith D. <kd...@cs...> - 2004-08-17 23:06:30
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It just hit me what is really cool about the new forums... How many places can you go where you can potentially get organized answers on almost any aspect of enterprise software development? Not many. I was just thinking if I had a data access issue, I could quickly search the Data Access topic for help and post my issue if I couldn't find the answer. Sometime later I might have a rich client issue; ;-) well it's obvious where to post that, too. And with the forums being easily and consistently accessible, we're really talking the potential for a much larger audience of smart people here. I like 'em... I'm looking forward to getting stuck on a new bugbear so I can see how fast I get help, actually! Keith -----Original Message----- From: spr...@li... [mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf Of Colin Sampaleanu Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 10:54 PM To: spr...@li... Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] I hate the forum I actually find the sum total significantly more producting than the old combo of bad SF forums and the user mailing list. At the top level, I can see at a glance which forums have unread topics, and within a forum see the actual unread topics. The "posts since last login" seems to work fine for me. I can also with one click, see unanswered posts. Now my perspective is not that of someone who is just trying to read every post, but rather as someone has to try to answer a good number of posts, and help verify that the others get answered). When I consider that before this had to be done for the crappy old forums _and_ the mailing list, there's just no question that in terms of my abilities to help answer questions, we're in a better place now. My perception is also that somebody coming in who needs to just find an answer to a question, is going to have an easier time, in terms of search, in terms of joining (vs. a mailing list), and in terms of being notified when there's an answer to his question. I agree that somebody who just wants to see every single post coming by probably has a harder time, but that's probably not the primary role of the _support_ venue... There is a digest mod available for phpBB, which can mail out digests of all the posts on a daily or weekly basis. The main issues are that it is third party, so it has to be basically hand merged into all the templates available on the site (we have 6-7 templates offered). Aside from the fairly significant work to get it in in the first palce, it's fragile if the template or phpBB have to be updated, or other mods have to go in. The next version of phpBB (2.2 compared to our present 2.0x) will allow subscribing to get all new posts as individual emails, for each forum. Unfortunately while they are in some sort of very long beta, there's no defined time for when this will be stable. We could also just pay $160 or so and move to vBulletin, which while commercial, is pretty cheap, and has enhanced threading and email functionality built-in... Colin James Cook wrote: >A little too dramatic? :) > >Actually, I think there was talk about sending an email to registered users >wasn't there? This would be a big help staying up on the news. > >I love (equally dramatic) the searching esp. if we can get SF archives >imported and the massive usability improvement over SF. But, without an >email or digest, I can't seem to stay up with the posts. > >My interests in Spring span most of the categories, so that's lots of >clicking around. And the "posts since last login" doesn't work well at all. >How are the developers coping? > > ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 _______________________________________________ Springframework-developer mailing list Spr...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer |
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From: Seth L. <set...@gm...> - 2004-08-18 02:39:16
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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 17:46:21 -0400, Keith Donald <kd...@cs...> wrote: > It just hit me what is really cool about the new forums... > > How many places can you go where you can potentially get organized answers > on almost any aspect of enterprise software development? Not many. I was > just thinking if I had a data access issue, I could quickly search the Data > Access topic for help and post my issue if I couldn't find the answer. > Sometime later I might have a rich client issue; ;-) well it's obvious where > to post that, too. And with the forums being easily and consistently > accessible, we're really talking the potential for a much larger audience of > smart people here. That's a good point... would it make sense to make a "Architecture" category? There people can post questions about design, project layout, layer splitting, OO design, etc as it applies to Spring. We've seen a few of those questions pop up on the mailing list. Seth |
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From: Rod J. <ro...@in...> - 2004-08-18 06:31:36
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Seth I believe an architecture section really makes sense. R -----Original Message----- From: spr...@li... [mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf Of Seth Ladd Sent: 18 August 2004 03:39 To: spr...@li... Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] I hate the forum On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 17:46:21 -0400, Keith Donald <kd...@cs...> wrote: > It just hit me what is really cool about the new forums... > > How many places can you go where you can potentially get organized > answers on almost any aspect of enterprise software development? Not > many. I was just thinking if I had a data access issue, I could > quickly search the Data Access topic for help and post my issue if I couldn't find the answer. > Sometime later I might have a rich client issue; ;-) well it's obvious > where to post that, too. And with the forums being easily and > consistently accessible, we're really talking the potential for a much > larger audience of smart people here. That's a good point... would it make sense to make a "Architecture" category? There people can post questions about design, project layout, layer splitting, OO design, etc as it applies to Spring. We've seen a few of those questions pop up on the mailing list. Seth ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 _______________________________________________ Springframework-developer mailing list Spr...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer |
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From: Dmitriy K. <dko...@ru...> - 2004-08-18 13:25:35
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Also +1 for architecture section Dmitriy. Rod Johnson wrote: >Seth > >I believe an architecture section really makes sense. > >R > >-----Original Message----- >From: spr...@li... >[mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf Of >Seth Ladd >Sent: 18 August 2004 03:39 >To: spr...@li... >Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] I hate the forum > >On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 17:46:21 -0400, Keith Donald <kd...@cs...> >wrote: > > >>It just hit me what is really cool about the new forums... >> >>How many places can you go where you can potentially get organized >>answers on almost any aspect of enterprise software development? Not >>many. I was just thinking if I had a data access issue, I could >>quickly search the Data Access topic for help and post my issue if I >> >> >couldn't find the answer. > > >>Sometime later I might have a rich client issue; ;-) well it's obvious >>where to post that, too. And with the forums being easily and >>consistently accessible, we're really talking the potential for a much >>larger audience of smart people here. >> >> > >That's a good point... would it make sense to make a "Architecture" >category? There people can post questions about design, project layout, >layer splitting, OO design, etc as it applies to Spring. >We've seen a few of those questions pop up on the mailing list. > >Seth > > >------------------------------------------------------- >SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk >Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off >Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. >http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 >_______________________________________________ >Springframework-developer mailing list >Spr...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media >100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 >Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. >http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 >_______________________________________________ >Springframework-developer mailing list >Spr...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > |
