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From: Darren D. <da...@da...> - 2004-07-07 10:15:29
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would anyone mind if we took a vote on this SF forum issue - these are th= e options mooted in recent posts. 1. Keep them, they're fine 2. Keep them until we get a better web based solution 3. Shut them down now and direct people to mailing lists Perhaps you can vote by replying to this mail and deleting all the text except the one option you want to vote for above. I'm registering a +1 for option 3. Cheers! --=20 Darren Davison Public Key: http://www.davison.uk.net/pages/key.htm |
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From: Rod J. <rod...@in...> - 2004-07-07 13:54:25
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2. Keep them until we get a better web based solution I'm not in favour of getting rid of the forums altogether, although I agree that the present SF forums are slow, lacking in features and poorly presented. I'm a bit concerned that the lists get a lot of traffic already; that subscribing to a list is more invasive (in my mind) than signing up to a forum; and that when evaluating a product I often browse forums to judge the responsiveness of a product's developers and users, while I don't tend to browse mailing lists, viewing them as more for committed users. |
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From: Colin S. <col...@ex...> - 2004-07-07 14:32:41
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+1. Rod Johnson wrote: >2. Keep them until we get a better web based solution > > >I'm not in favour of getting rid of the forums altogether, although I agree >that the present SF forums are slow, lacking in features and poorly >presented. > >I'm a bit concerned that the lists get a lot of traffic already; that >subscribing to a list is more invasive (in my mind) than signing up to a >forum; and that when evaluating a product I often browse forums to judge the >responsiveness of a product's developers and users, while I don't tend to >browse mailing lists, viewing them as more for committed users. > > |
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From: Guillaume P. <gpo...@gl...> - 2004-07-07 14:52:29
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+1 Rod Johnson wrote: >2. Keep them until we get a better web based solution > > >I'm not in favour of getting rid of the forums altogether, although I agree >that the present SF forums are slow, lacking in features and poorly >presented. > >I'm a bit concerned that the lists get a lot of traffic already; that >subscribing to a list is more invasive (in my mind) than signing up to a >forum; and that when evaluating a product I often browse forums to judge the >responsiveness of a product's developers and users, while I don't tend to >browse mailing lists, viewing them as more for committed users. > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. >Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - >digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, >unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com >_______________________________________________ >Springframework-developer mailing list >Spr...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > |
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From: Dmitriy K. <dko...@ru...> - 2004-07-07 15:23:18
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Also +1 Guillaume Poirier wrote: > +1 > > Rod Johnson wrote: > >> 2. Keep them until we get a better web based solution >> >> >> I'm not in favour of getting rid of the forums altogether, although I >> agree >> that the present SF forums are slow, lacking in features and poorly >> presented. >> >> I'm a bit concerned that the lists get a lot of traffic already; that >> subscribing to a list is more invasive (in my mind) than signing up to a >> forum; and that when evaluating a product I often browse forums to >> judge the >> responsiveness of a product's developers and users, while I don't >> tend to >> browse mailing lists, viewing them as more for committed users. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. >> Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital >> self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched >> networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Springframework-developer mailing list >> Spr...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital > self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched > networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer |
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From: Matthew E. P. <mat...@me...> - 2004-07-07 15:33:01
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If I may ask, what is holding up using some other forum software? Cheers, matthew On Jul 7, 2004, at 10:23 AM, Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > Also +1 > > Guillaume Poirier wrote: > >> +1 >> >> Rod Johnson wrote: >> >>> 2. Keep them until we get a better web based solution >>> >>> >>> I'm not in favour of getting rid of the forums altogether, although >>> I agree >>> that the present SF forums are slow, lacking in features and poorly >>> presented. >>> >>> I'm a bit concerned that the lists get a lot of traffic already; that >>> subscribing to a list is more invasive (in my mind) than signing up >>> to a >>> forum; and that when evaluating a product I often browse forums to >>> judge the >>> responsiveness of a product's developers and users, while I don't >>> tend to >>> browse mailing lists, viewing them as more for committed users. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. >>> Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - >>> digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, >>> unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Springframework-developer mailing list >>> Spr...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework- >>> developer >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. >> Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital >> self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched >> networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Springframework-developer mailing list >> Spr...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital > self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched > networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer |
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From: Colin S. <col...@ex...> - 2004-07-08 03:24:21
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Time :-) It will also add a bit of cost to the project, since the hosting and bandwidth will have to be paid, but the main issue is that somebody has to do the work of setting up phpBB (or whatever) somewhere. It looks like I may be able to do it in the next week or two though. Colin Matthew E. Porter wrote: > If I may ask, what is holding up using some other forum software? > > > Cheers, > matthew > > On Jul 7, 2004, at 10:23 AM, Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >> Also +1 >> >> Guillaume Poirier wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> >>> Rod Johnson wrote: >>> >>>> 2. Keep them until we get a better web based solution >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm not in favour of getting rid of the forums altogether, >>>> although I agree >>>> that the present SF forums are slow, lacking in features and poorly >>>> presented. >>>> >>>> I'm a bit concerned that the lists get a lot of traffic already; that >>>> subscribing to a list is more invasive (in my mind) than signing >>>> up to a >>>> forum; and that when evaluating a product I often browse forums to >>>> judge the >>>> responsiveness of a product's developers and users, while I don't >>>> tend to >>>> browse mailing lists, viewing them as more for committed users. >>> |
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From: Andy D. <an...@ma...> - 2004-07-08 04:30:46
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Just curious... who flips the bill for the "added cost"? Is it time to add a "donations" link to the home page? :-) - Andy On Wednesday 07 July 2004 08:28 pm, Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > Time :-) It will also add a bit of cost to the project, since the > hosting and bandwidth will have to be paid, but the main issue is that > somebody has to do the work of setting up phpBB (or whatever) somewhere. > It looks like I may be able to do it in the next week or two though. > > Colin |
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From: Matthew E. P. <mat...@me...> - 2004-07-08 13:25:20
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Somebody from the Spring core contact me off list. Since I own a managed hosting company, I may be able to help with the bandwidth. Cheers, matthew On Jul 7, 2004, at 10:28 PM, Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > Time :-) It will also add a bit of cost to the project, since the > hosting and bandwidth will have to be paid, but the main issue is that > somebody has to do the work of setting up phpBB (or whatever) > somewhere. It looks like I may be able to do it in the next week or > two though. > > Colin > > Matthew E. Porter wrote: > >> If I may ask, what is holding up using some other forum software? >> >> >> Cheers, >> matthew >> >> On Jul 7, 2004, at 10:23 AM, Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >> >>> Also +1 >>> >>> Guillaume Poirier wrote: >>> >>>> +1 >>>> >>>> Rod Johnson wrote: >>>> >>>>> 2. Keep them until we get a better web based solution >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm not in favour of getting rid of the forums altogether, >>>>> although I agree >>>>> that the present SF forums are slow, lacking in features and poorly >>>>> presented. >>>>> >>>>> I'm a bit concerned that the lists get a lot of traffic already; >>>>> that >>>>> subscribing to a list is more invasive (in my mind) than signing >>>>> up to a >>>>> forum; and that when evaluating a product I often browse forums to >>>>> judge the >>>>> responsiveness of a product's developers and users, while I don't >>>>> tend to >>>>> browse mailing lists, viewing them as more for committed users. >>>> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital > self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched > networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer |
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From: Colin S. <col...@ex...> - 2004-07-08 13:34:13
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Thanks Matthew, I've been taking care of this. Will do so... Matthew E. Porter wrote: > Somebody from the Spring core contact me off list. Since I own a > managed hosting company, I may be able to help with the bandwidth. > > > Cheers, > matthew > > On Jul 7, 2004, at 10:28 PM, Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > >> Time :-) It will also add a bit of cost to the project, since >> the hosting and bandwidth will have to be paid, but the main issue is >> that somebody has to do the work of setting up phpBB (or whatever) >> somewhere. It looks like I may be able to do it in the next week or >> two though. >> >> Colin >> >> Matthew E. Porter wrote: >> >>> If I may ask, what is holding up using some other forum software? >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> matthew >>> >>> On Jul 7, 2004, at 10:23 AM, Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>> >>>> Also +1 >>>> >>>> Guillaume Poirier wrote: >>>> >>>>> +1 >>>>> >>>>> Rod Johnson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> 2. Keep them until we get a better web based solution >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not in favour of getting rid of the forums altogether, >>>>>> although I agree >>>>>> that the present SF forums are slow, lacking in features and poorly >>>>>> presented. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm a bit concerned that the lists get a lot of traffic already; >>>>>> that >>>>>> subscribing to a list is more invasive (in my mind) than signing >>>>>> up to a >>>>>> forum; and that when evaluating a product I often browse forums >>>>>> to judge the >>>>>> responsiveness of a product's developers and users, while I >>>>>> don't tend to >>>>>> browse mailing lists, viewing them as more for committed users. >>>>> >>>>> |
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From: Rainer S. <Rai...@ab...> - 2004-07-08 16:10:59
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Rod, I think your points are valid. But aren't they covered by the gmane web interface (e.g. http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.springframework.devel)? For me the combination of mailing list and gmane is a very spring-like solution: the user has the choice (mailing list, web interface, or news reader) :-) Rainer Rod Johnson wrote: > I'm a bit concerned that the lists get a lot of traffic already; that > subscribing to a list is more invasive (in my mind) than signing up to a > forum; and that when evaluating a product I often browse forums to judge the > responsiveness of a product's developers and users, while I don't tend to > browse mailing lists, viewing them as more for committed users. |
