Re: [Springframework-developer] Releasing Tests?

[Colin S. <col...@ex...>]

This is the solution I like. Somebody who is already using Spring and 
just wants to do a point upgrade or have an install image for use 
somewhere could pull down the light version. Somebody who really wants 
to learn Spring and get going with it would pull down the heavy version...

jürgen höller [werk3AT] wrote:

>I think that the difference isn't big enough to warrant separate releases just because of the tests. A more convincing option would be to ship a distribution that contains everything (even including tests) but just the minimum set of libraries (i.e. aop-alliance and commons-logging). No working samples, no compiling of framework sources.
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>That would result in a 7.5 MB "light edition", as opposed to >14 MB for the "full edition" with all libraries. I guess that many users would consider the "light edition" sufficient in that case: After all, it includes everything as sources plus pre-built framework libraries - just without the option to build samples, framework, or tests!
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>We could pursue that after M4 if we feel the need to, starting to offer two such distributions as of RC1. For the time being, a single 14 MB distribution should be fine, IMO.
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>Juergen
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>Von: spr...@li... im Auftrag von Alef Arendsen
>Gesendet: Do 11.12.2003 10:47
>An: spr...@li...
>Betreff: RE: [Springframework-developer] Releasing Tests?
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>I think it's good to have the tests distributed as well, but maybe we
>could have two releases? One including the tests, one not including the
>tests (or does this result in too much work)...
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: spr...@li...
>[mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf
>Of jürgen höller [werk3AT]
>Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:41 AM
>To: spr...@li...
>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Releasing Tests?
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>I'm inclined to agree, but this implies a further issue: To be able to
>compile all the tests and the framework sources in the first place, we
>need to ship all the libraries that we depend on. We're talking about
>additional 1.6 MB of libs here (excluding Xerces and Clover). The test
>sources amount to 1.3 MB themselves (400 KB zipped). So in total, around
>2 MB increase in distribution size: from 12.1 MB (M3 + JPetStore) to
>14.1 MB. If we agree to accept that, I'll be happy to include the tests
>in the upcoming release.
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>Juergen
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>Von: spr...@li... im Auftrag
>von Rod Johnson
>Gesendet: Do 11.12.2003 10:06
>An: spr...@li...
>Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] Releasing Tests?
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>I agree with Rong. I think we should include tests in M4.
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>Regards,
>Rod
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ou, Rong" <Ro...@sa...>
>To: <spr...@li...>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:43 PM
>Subject: [Springframework-developer] Releasing Tests?
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>Hi all,
>
>First time poster here. I've had Rod's book for a while, just haven't
>finished reading it yet. :) Which I plan to do during the holidays.
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>I was a bit disappointed when I pulled down the m3 release and didn't
>find any tests in it. Since we are all doing XP, agile, TDD now, isn't
>it high time that tests are released together with production code? It
>would be so much easier for newcomers to come up to speed with the
>framework ("Tests are
>documentation") and contribute new tests and patches (dealing with cvs
>is a lot of hassle from behind firewalls).
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>Any thoughts?
>
>Rong
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