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Re: [Slashcode-general] T_2_5_0_160 config >> topics >> parent/child

[shane <sh...@lo...>]

On May 28, 2007, at 7:00 PM, Reid Maynard wrote:

> I was just getting the hang of topics:parent/child; then I got into
> LIST mode, and it doesn't find any of the user added topics. I'd like
> for it to see my topics and bring back the "Tree" view (selecting
> "Tree" doesn't.
>
> Anyone? Anyone?

The topic data is cached. After you add/delete/modify a topic, if  
you're on a development system, you should restart httpd and slashd.  
If you're on a production box, if it's busy enough, the httpd threads  
should die and the changes would eventually show themselves (or, you  
restart httpd and slashd).

The idea behind it is that - the topics on a site don't change so  
much - most sites go live with a pre-planned set of topics, and only  
add one here or there. And there's so much data related to them, it's  
better to cache.

Re: [Slashcode-general] New Install

[shane <sh...@lo...>]

On May 29, 2007, at 11:29 AM, Larson, Timothy E. wrote:

> Jamie McCarthy wrote:
>> sh...@lo... (shane) writes:
>>> I would use the latest T-tag.
>>
>> I probably would too.
>
> Isn't the point of the R tags to let us know when it is "good" to grab
> the code?

I think the R and T tags are explained in the INSTALL, but my  
understanding is the R are more "for release", yes.

> How would the typical slash site admin know if any given T
> tag was "good" or not?

Ask on the listserve(s)?

Typically, I just grab the lateste T-tag, install it, and do a quick  
look through the error logs for oddities. But we also try to stay  
within a week or two of the T-tags in production. That time period  
varies depending on the newly submitted-bugs-list on the Slash SF  
page, and our time avaialble to merge the changes into our cvs repo.

  Shane

[Slashcode-general] Slashcode on Apache2

[Mark J. A. <mja...@fa...>]

Hi,

I just subcribed to a VPS hosting company gplhost.com which uses apache2
for their control panel software.

My VPS is running Debian 4.1.1-21 with apache2 installed.

Question:
Is there any chance that slashcode is going to work with the version of
apache installed
in my VPS?

Do think it will be ok if I use this patch ->
http://www.slashcode.com/articles/04/02/19/2144259.shtml


Thanks!
-- 
  Mark Jayson Alvarez
  mja...@fa...

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Re: [Slashcode-general] New Install

[Larson, T. E. <TEL...@we...>]

Jamie McCarthy wrote:
> sh...@lo... (shane) writes:
>> I would use the latest T-tag.
>=20
> I probably would too.

Isn't the point of the R tags to let us know when it is "good" to grab
the code?  How would the typical slash site admin know if any given T
tag was "good" or not?


Tim
--=20
Tim Larson
InterCall, a subsidiary of West Corporation
Eschew obfuscation!

[Slashcode-general] T_2_5_0_160 config >> topics >> parent/child

[Reid M. <rei...@gm...>]

I was just getting the hang of topics:parent/child; then I got into
LIST mode, and it doesn't find any of the user added topics. I'd like
for it to see my topics and bring back the "Tree" view (selecting
"Tree" doesn't.

Anyone? Anyone?

Re: [Slashcode-general] New Install

[Jamie M. <ja...@mc...>]

sh...@lo... (shane) writes:

>> Does slash save data in the perl modules?! I did not
>> reinstall those.
>=20
> No.

Slash doesn't, but DBIx/Password.pm does, and you probably
installed that for the first time with the first install. Make
sure the DBIx::Password virtual user you're using points to the
database you think it points to.  (If that was confusing, the
"Types of Users" section of the INSTALL file may help clarify.)

>> BTW - I got R_2_5_0_94 -- is there something newer?
>=20
> I would use the latest T-tag.
>=20
>   Shane

I probably would too.
--=20
  Jamie McCarthy
 http://mccarthy.vg/
  ja...@mc...

Re: [Slashcode-general] New Install

[shane <sh...@lo...>]

On May 24, 2007, at 9:59 AM, Reid Maynard wrote:

> First I got the 2.2.6 tarball running; then I noticed many features
> were missing. So I followed the "get it from CVS" directions from
> http://www.slashcode.com/article.pl?sid=06/02/26/2117247&tid=4&tid=1
>
> All was fine. I read the instructions. Deleted and recreated the MySQL
> database. make && make install on the new "slash" code I downloaded.
> Then, when I performed the
>
> bin/install-slashsite -u VIRTUAL_USER
>
> step, all went well, EXCEPT for the following...
>
> Error:Slash::Install:/usr/local/perl-5.8.8/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/i686- 
> linux/Slash/Install.pm:368:virtuser='slash'
> -- hostinfo='Localhost via UNIX socket' -- Table 'slash.sections'
> doesn't exist -- INSERT into sections (section, artcount, title)
> VALUES ('newsvac', 0, 'NewsVac Links')
> Which was called
> by:Slash::Install:/usr/local/perl-5.8.8/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/i686- 
> linux/Slash/Install.pm:167
> === (NewsVac) Failed on :INSERT into sections (section, artcount,
> title) VALUES ('newsvac', 0, 'NewsVac Links'):
>
>> From poking around, it seems I may have jumbled the code streams?

Yes, I'd say that's it. be sure you

shutdown apache
shutdown slashd
do a 'drop database slash' and then 'create database slash',
rm -fR /usr/local/slash
cd /usr/local/src/slash
make UNINST=1 install
then run install-slashsite

>> ! as
> the new code should not be trying to create this table anymore.

I'm got an install of our version of T_2_5_0_156 running here, and  
I've no such "sec%" tables.

>
> Does slash save data in the perl modules?! I did not reinstall those.

No.

>
> BTW - I got R_2_5_0_94 -- is there something newer?

I would use the latest T-tag.

  Shane

Re: [Slashcode-general] New Install

[Scott L. <sc...@gu...>]

Reid,

On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 09:59 -0400, Reid Maynard wrote:
> Table 'slash.sections'
> doesn't exist 

Is this an upgrade? Like from 2.2.6 to a current R_ tag? If so, it would
appear that you haven't updated the database, or that conversion may not
have gone well. Have you tried a fresh install of R_2_5_0_94 instead of
an upgrade? If this is a single site on a single box, that may go
better.

-- 
Regards,
Scott Lockwood

[Slashcode-general] New Install

[Reid M. <rei...@gm...>]

First I got the 2.2.6 tarball running; then I noticed many features
were missing. So I followed the "get it from CVS" directions from
http://www.slashcode.com/article.pl?sid=06/02/26/2117247&tid=4&tid=1

All was fine. I read the instructions. Deleted and recreated the MySQL
database. make && make install on the new "slash" code I downloaded.
Then, when I performed the

bin/install-slashsite -u VIRTUAL_USER

step, all went well, EXCEPT for the following...

Error:Slash::Install:/usr/local/perl-5.8.8/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux/Slash/Install.pm:368:virtuser='slash'
-- hostinfo='Localhost via UNIX socket' -- Table 'slash.sections'
doesn't exist -- INSERT into sections (section, artcount, title)
VALUES ('newsvac', 0, 'NewsVac Links')
Which was called
by:Slash::Install:/usr/local/perl-5.8.8/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux/Slash/Install.pm:167
=== (NewsVac) Failed on :INSERT into sections (section, artcount,
title) VALUES ('newsvac', 0, 'NewsVac Links'):

>From poking around, it seems I may have jumbled the code streams?! as
the new code should not be trying to create this table anymore.

Does slash save data in the perl modules?! I did not reinstall those.

BTW - I got R_2_5_0_94 -- is there something newer?

Re: [Slashcode-general] Commenting on your own story

[Faye G. <fgi...@st...>]

al...@ow... wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there a way (i.e. config variable) which will allow an author of a
>> story to comment upon it?
>>
>> Yours
>> Faye
> 
> Sorry Faye, Can you explain some more what is stopping the author of a
> story from commenting? That is allowed in the versions I use. I would be
> surprised if that has changed in the last few years.
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> 

Sorry, I was being blonde. I've just found the "REPLY" button.

Oops.

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Re: [Slashcode-general] Commenting on your own story

[<al...@ow...>]

> Hi,
>
> Is there a way (i.e. config variable) which will allow an author of a
> story to comment upon it?
>
> Yours
> Faye

Sorry Faye, Can you explain some more what is stopping the author of a
story from commenting? That is allowed in the versions I use. I would be
surprised if that has changed in the last few years.

Alex

[Slashcode-general] Commenting on your own story

[Faye G. <fgi...@st...>]

Hi,

Is there a way (i.e. config variable) which will allow an author of a 
story to comment upon it?

Yours
Faye

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Re: [Slashcode-general] subnet requirement on sotry link.

[Faye G. <fgi...@st...>]

Hi,

  I wanted to use Slashcode for a forum but felt that setting up a sub 
domain was a bit overkill. BTW I am the Sys Admin.

  So far I've taken mysql 5.0.27, apache 1.3.37 and last Fridays CVS 
head of slash code and a custom CPAN config file and got a working slash 
setup, all done as non root.

  It did involve several bug reports to CPAN package owners and 
HTML-Calendar is still broke BTW, it has to be installed by hand. It's 
the "make test", I've reported it to the author.

  Everything so far has been scripted so I'll probably make a HOWTO of 
it later. I did have to hack the top level slash makefile to pass PREFIX 
and LIB args to the various perl install steps. Expect a patch for that 
soon.

  I've also found what I think is a bug in 'install-slashsite' in the 
handling of the "-L" arg. I found it late last night so I'm going to sit 
  on it until I'm sure.

  My next problem is that the setup won't currently compile on 64 bit. 
But that's an apache problem.

  Anyway it would be nice if there was an easy way to tell slash to use 
relative paths or CGI args for sections rather than sub domains.

Yours
Faye
CO GeoS



Clifton Wood wrote:
> Generally? Ease of use. It's more easy to use:
> 
> http://section.domain.com/
> 
> than it is to do
> 
> http://domain.com/index.pl?section=name
> 
> Easier to remember for most people. Personally, I can go either way
> since I've used Slash for so long.
> 
> WRT a non-root install, it *is* hard to do. At some point, you need
> your sysadmin's cooperation. What exactly are the problems you are
> having?
> 
> - Cliff
> 
> On 5/12/07, Faye Gibbins <fgi...@st...> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>   I'm using the current CVS. I tried R_2_5_0_94 but I just couldn't
>> get it to work with a non-root install.
>>
>>   BTW: What was the rational for using subdomains?
>>
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Re: [Slashcode-general] subnet requirement on sotry link.

[Clifton W. <cli...@gm...>]

Generally? Ease of use. It's more easy to use:

http://section.domain.com/

than it is to do

http://domain.com/index.pl?section=name

Easier to remember for most people. Personally, I can go either way
since I've used Slash for so long.

WRT a non-root install, it *is* hard to do. At some point, you need
your sysadmin's cooperation. What exactly are the problems you are
having?

- Cliff

On 5/12/07, Faye Gibbins <fgi...@st...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>   I'm using the current CVS. I tried R_2_5_0_94 but I just couldn't
> get it to work with a non-root install.
>
>   BTW: What was the rational for using subdomains?
>

Re: [Slashcode-general] subnet requirement on sotry link.

[Faye G. <fgi...@st...>]

Hi,

  I'm using the current CVS. I tried R_2_5_0_94 but I just couldn't =20
get it to work with a non-root install.

  BTW: What was the rational for using subdomains?

Yours
Faye

Quoting shane <sh...@lo...>:

>
> On May 10, 2007, at 9:19 PM, Clifton Wood wrote:
>
>> On 5/10/07, shane <sh...@lo...> wrote:
>>> The version I'm most familiar with, CVS (ie current, unreleased) has
>>> great reliance upon subdomains in the URL's. [...]
>>
>> This is slightly amusing, mainly because what Faye is asking for is
>> the way Slashcode *used* to handle sections. The whole subdomain thing
>> was a refactoring of the code when "section" was redefined as "skin".
>>
>> Just an FYI and a slight bit of history.
>
> heh, ya know, I forgot all about that. Seems like so long ago :)
>
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Re: [Slashcode-general] subnet requirement on sotry link.

[shane <sh...@lo...>]

On May 10, 2007, at 9:19 PM, Clifton Wood wrote:

> On 5/10/07, shane <sh...@lo...> wrote:
>> The version I'm most familiar with, CVS (ie current, unreleased) has
>> great reliance upon subdomains in the URL's. [...]
>
> This is slightly amusing, mainly because what Faye is asking for is
> the way Slashcode *used* to handle sections. The whole subdomain thing
> was a refactoring of the code when "section" was redefined as "skin".
>
> Just an FYI and a slight bit of history.

heh, ya know, I forgot all about that. Seems like so long ago :)

Re: [Slashcode-general] subnet requirement on sotry link.

[Clifton W. <cli...@gm...>]

On 5/10/07, shane <sh...@lo...> wrote:
> The version I'm most familiar with, CVS (ie current, unreleased) has
> great reliance upon subdomains in the URL's. I'm going to assume
> that's what you are using. However, what you want can be done. We did
> it on a site. I don't recall if we had to patch anything, or not. But
> the first step for you to go about this would be to remove the URL's
> for any non-primaryskid skins that are nexus's. Then edit your
> article and save it. That'll cause slash to re-render it and the
> links to it.

This is slightly amusing, mainly because what Faye is asking for is
the way Slashcode *used* to handle sections. The whole subdomain thing
was a refactoring of the code when "section" was redefined as "skin".

Just an FYI and a slight bit of history.

- Cliff

Re: [Slashcode-general] subnet requirement on sotry link.

[shane <sh...@lo...>]

On May 10, 2007, at 9:26 AM, Faye Gibbins wrote:

> Hi,
>
>   It is possible to configure slash so that instead of say:
>
> http://features.somemachine.example.com/.....
>
> it uses:
>
> http://somemachine.example.com/features/.....
>
> when linking from a story on the main page
> (http://somemachine.example.com/) to (say) a "features" article?
>
> I'd prefer not to setup an subnet just to play with slash.
>
> I did skim through the Slssh book and got through the variables list
> looking for something obvious.
>
> yours
> Faye

First off, what version of Slashcode are you using?

The version I'm most familiar with, CVS (ie current, unreleased) has  
great reliance upon subdomains in the URL's. I'm going to assume  
that's what you are using. However, what you want can be done. We did  
it on a site. I don't recall if we had to patch anything, or not. But  
the first step for you to go about this would be to remove the URL's  
for any non-primaryskid skins that are nexus's. Then edit your  
article and save it. That'll cause slash to re-render it and the  
links to it.

Because, technically, if your subdomains are setup, there should be  
no behavioral difference between http://features.some.tld/ and http:// 
some.tld/?section=features. And when the dispStory template is  
called, it should render the link to any story as either coming from  
the some.tld/article.pl?section=foo or some.tld/{sectionname}/ 
article.shtml or {subdomainforskin}.some.tdl/article.pl -- all  
depending on the primaryskid or the article, the skin's settings and  
who's requesting it (anon user, user, slashd).

Try it on slashcode, or slashdot yourself if you like. http:// 
apple.slashdot.org/ or http://slashdot.org/?section=apple should be  
the same.

  Shane

[Slashcode-general] subnet requirement on sotry link.

[Faye G. <fgi...@st...>]

Hi,

  It is possible to configure slash so that instead of say:

http://features.somemachine.example.com/.....

it uses:

http://somemachine.example.com/features/.....

when linking from a story on the main page 
(http://somemachine.example.com/) to (say) a "features" article?

I'd prefer not to setup an subnet just to play with slash.

I did skim through the Slssh book and got through the variables list 
looking for something obvious.

yours
Faye

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Re: [Slashcode-general] New Install, off server trouble

[Reid M. <rei...@gm...>]

Okay, I'm a little embarrassed. Now I'm at work (off my server's
subnet) and it works fine!

So to recap, works fine from the server, broken on the subnet, fine
from the internet.

Anyway, not a slash problem from these symptoms...thanks Alex.

-Reid

On 5/10/07, al...@sf... <al...@sf...> wrote:
> Hello Reid,
>
> Some basics please.
>
> Have you actually looked at the source of the html generated and tried to
> fetch one of the icons using precisely that URL?
>
> You may find that slash uses a slightly unconventional URL structure.
>
> Alex
>
> > My new install works great, when I am on the server. But, when I
> > access from a PC on the same subnet I have a few troubles:
> >
> > *None of the Icons show up.
> > *I cannot click into anything on the site (I receive a single web page
> > with "blocked" message). External links are fine.
> >
> > I looked into the apache and slash logs, actually tailed them while I
> > repeat the error, and nothing shows up.
> >
> > slash 2.2.6, perl 5.8.8, apache 1.3.37
> >
> > **My server name is not DNS registered, but I have it in the hosts
> > file for the server & PC. Should this matter? I can't see how.
> >
> > -Reid
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Re: [Slashcode-general] New Install, off server trouble

[Reid M. <rei...@gm...>]

I just tried to fetch one of the icons using the precise URL, the
result literally returned "blocked"
-Reid

On 5/10/07, al...@sf... <al...@sf...> wrote:
> Hello Reid,
>
> Some basics please.
>
> Have you actually looked at the source of the html generated and tried to
> fetch one of the icons using precisely that URL?
>
> You may find that slash uses a slightly unconventional URL structure.
>
> Alex
>
> > My new install works great, when I am on the server. But, when I
> > access from a PC on the same subnet I have a few troubles:
> >
> > *None of the Icons show up.
> > *I cannot click into anything on the site (I receive a single web page
> > with "blocked" message). External links are fine.
> >
> > I looked into the apache and slash logs, actually tailed them while I
> > repeat the error, and nothing shows up.
> >
> > slash 2.2.6, perl 5.8.8, apache 1.3.37
> >
> > **My server name is not DNS registered, but I have it in the hosts
> > file for the server & PC. Should this matter? I can't see how.
> >
> > -Reid

[Slashcode-general] New Install, off server trouble

[Reid M. <rei...@gm...>]

My new install works great, when I am on the server. But, when I
access from a PC on the same subnet I have a few troubles:

*None of the Icons show up.
*I cannot click into anything on the site (I receive a single web page
with "blocked" message). External links are fine.

I looked into the apache and slash logs, actually tailed them while I
repeat the error, and nothing shows up.

slash 2.2.6, perl 5.8.8, apache 1.3.37

**My server name is not DNS registered, but I have it in the hosts
file for the server & PC. Should this matter? I can't see how.

-Reid

Re: [Slashcode-general] Audio reader (speech synthesis) on Slashdot

[shane <sh...@lo...>]

On May 2, 2007, at 3:33 AM, Yang wrote:

> I just saw this linked to from the top of the Slashdot homepage.
>
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/slashdot/audio
>
> (I had never seen this before because usually I'm logged into  
> Slashdot.)
>
> I'm highly interested in the speech synthesis tool that's being used
> to generate this audio. This is probably the best quality output I've
> heard - the only one that I've ever found tolerable. I'm wondering if
> anybody on Slashcode might know what the tool is (otherwise, where
> should I ask?).

Use the code, luke ;) If you grep the current code for 'audio' you'll  
see this:

cepstral audio.

My guess is they are using this: http://www.cepstral.com/support/   
and maybe something from here http://search.cpan.org/search? 
query=cepstral&mode=all

Pretty cool idea huh? I think, from an accessibility standpoint this  
is huge. My question is whether there is any intention for this audio  
generating code to be included in the standard slashcode codebase, or  
if this is a slashdot-only feature.

  Shane

[Slashcode-general] Using Apache's REMOTE_USER env var

[Faye G. <fgi...@st...>]

Hi,

  I'm setting up a slash site. I'd like the "Nick Name" fields to be 
automatically filled with the contents of $ENV{REMOTE_USER} and the 
passwords for everyone to be set to something like "foobar".

  The reason is that we have our slash Site protected by Cosign, which 
is a reduced sign on system based upon Kerberos. We use it at Edinburgh 
University to make authentication (relatively) transparent to end users.

  If there's an easy way to achieve this then please let me know. 
Otherwise I'll hack something together and submit the patches.

Yours
Faye

Edinburgh Uni, Scotland

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[Slashcode-general] Audio reader (speech synthesis) on Slashdot

[Yang <0kf...@sn...>]

I just saw this linked to from the top of the Slashdot homepage.

http://feeds.feedburner.com/slashdot/audio

(I had never seen this before because usually I'm logged into Slashdot.)

I'm highly interested in the speech synthesis tool that's being used
to generate this audio. This is probably the best quality output I've
heard - the only one that I've ever found tolerable. I'm wondering if
anybody on Slashcode might know what the tool is (otherwise, where
should I ask?).

Thanks in advance.