Re: [Skim-app-users] How to get SKIM's 'print preview' to match 'hard copy'?

[Christiaan H. <cmh...@gm...>]

On Jul 9, 2012, at 5:32, Michael Kraft wrote:

> <<< You cannot do anything with the preview other than walk through the pages. You should realize that this is not coming from us, it's part of the system frameworks, therefore we can also not change how it works. AFAIK it should be accurate as to what you get, but that can never be 100%, because the information it has may also not be 100% (a physical object  is not always the same thing as the model in the computer, for instance you may not have the paper size in your tray you say there is.) From what you say I really cannot say what would cause the truncation, it could be all kinds of things. You should try and play with the various settings in the print panel. >>>
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> Thanks but I'm not sure you understood my post.  I didn't ask for a way of altering anything while 'previewing' in SKIM (i.e., I realize that 'preview' just walks you through the pages), just what to do to make the preview accurate relative to the hard copy.
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> The 'paper size' certainly has nothing to do with it (i.e., I only use 8 1/2 x 11).
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> However, it may very well be that the fault lies with Google Docs.  All of the problems I've encountered that led to my inquiry here have occurred with documents created with the latest version of GDocs -- an alleged 'upgrade.'
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> The fact alone that to date no GDocs docs spec'd as 'landscape' docs have printed as 'landscape' docs in that web app's current version (i.e., all such docs print in 'portrait' orientation, with of course, truncation of text) seems to point to  a likelihood that all is not well with Google Docs, something which should come as no surprise to its users.
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> --- On Sun, 7/8/12, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...> wrote:
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> From: Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>
> Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] How to get SKIM's 'print preview' to match 'hard copy'?
> To: "For general discussion about using Skim" <ski...@li...>
> Date: Sunday, July 8, 2012, 4:52 AM
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> On Jul 8, 2012, at 8:06, Michael Kraft wrote:
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>> When I print a PDF created from a Google Docs doc via the ‘Download’ (i.e., ‘Download as PDF’) option in Google Docs, text at that margins (i.e., at ‘the top of the page and the left of the page’ -or- ‘the left of the page and the right of the page’) are slightly (but noticeably) truncated in the printout, even though the truncation is not apparent when ‘previewed’ (in SKIM) prior to printing.
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>> How
>>  can I prevent that truncation from happening?
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>> Also, is there a way to ‘zoom’ (i.e., enlarge) the print preview (in SKIM), so that I can tell for sure whether or not the truncation is displayed?  (I’ve referred to it as “not apparent’ above because the default preview display is too small for me to be certain.)
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>> UPDATE:  Although the zoom question still applies to text docs, a monthly calendar previewed completely normally in SKIM yet printed with slight truncation of the left and right
>>  borders of the calendar.
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>> So my overall question is:  How do I get to a completely wysiwyg situation with respect to ‘previewing’ and ‘printing’ in SKIM?
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>> Thanks.
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>> (If at all relevant to the above, I'm using SKIM v. 1.2.4 (42).)
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> You cannot do anything with the preview other than walk through the pages. You should realize that this is not coming from us, it's part of the system frameworks, therefore we can also not change how it works. AFAIK it should be accurate as to what you get, but that can never be 100%, because the information it has may also not be 100% (a physical object  is not always the same thing as the model in the computer, for instance you may not have the paper size in your tray you say there is.) From what you say I really cannot say what would cause the truncation, it could be all kinds of things. You should try and play with the various settings in the print panel.
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> Christiaan


Again, we don't generate the preview, and there's nothing to do other than what you see. What the preview does is just baked into the system, and what your printer does is just baked into that printer. If that's not consistent, you either did not give the right settings (like paper size or whatever), or it is something that you cannot control.

If it's landscape versus portrait, that could explain truncation, of course. Now how the preview treats this or the printer may be different. There are different ways for PDFs to be "landscape": it can rotate the pages, or it can have pages that are just wider than they are high. Different hardware or software can treat these things differently and not consistent with each other (because there is no real consistent "standard" way to treat them.) It may also just be the /default/ setting for landscape printing that you get. If you see this, you can just change the landscape setting.

Christiaan