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From: Zhang C. <ch...@ma...> - 2005-09-13 06:30:49
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Hi, guys!
I'm back! After half of a month's busy work on my schoolwork, I'm
free again to work for SIP. I debug the Windows SIP today, and find the
crash of Transmogrify Demo may be caused by Scilab Graphics. The source
code of mogrify_int.c is bug-free. I tested it by typing the following
commands:
[x,mapx]=imread('lena.jpg');
imshow(x,mapx); <====OK
[y,mapy]=mogrify(x,mapx,'-equalize'); <====no crash
imshow(y,mapy); <====OK, equalized
Everything seems all right, the picture Lena is equalized correctly.
However, when I try the Transmogrify Demo, Scilab crashes as soon as the
function mogrify() is called. I noticed that if I closed the Scilab
Graphics window before next drawing, the crash wouldn't happen:
// EXAMPLE 1 -- Basics
[im,map] = imread('plate.gif');
xbasc(), imshow(im,map); <===Scilab Graphics window pops up, let's
close it
halt()
// Histogram Equalization
// This makes the image features more visible
[im2,map2] = mogrify(im,map, '-equalize');
xbasc(), imshow(im2,map2); <===all right! the annoying crash disappears
halt()
clrscr()
However, closing these graphics windows will cause Scilab crashes very
easily. Now I wonder where the bugs lie...Anyone has ideas?
Zhang Cheng
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From: Ricardo F. <rf...@gm...> - 2005-08-31 19:14:36
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Hi again, Zhang, about the Mogrify bug, have you tried running a debugger? I might try a memory leak test on mogrify under linux. If it has a leak on windows, it probably will show on Linux too, even though it doesn't crash. good luck! -- Ricardo. |
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From: Ricardo F. <rf...@gm...> - 2005-08-31 19:11:44
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Hi, Zhang, I just came back from a 10day vacation, in a town at Long Island, NY, it was really nice. > The calling to mogrify() from Scilab will cause Scilab to crash. I > checked out mogrify_int.c, but found nothing unusual. So I suspect that > this is a bug for Window ImageMagick, but I don't have time to prove it. >=20 > A workaound currently is to rewrite mogrify() in Scilab script.=20 > What do you mean? About ImageMagick, here is why I adopted it: - it supports more formats than any other library; its codecs are very well debugged. - works neatly on Linux and windows - It may be big, 25Meg, but this is nothing nowadays. Besides, image processing and the manipulation of image formats is a complex issue and we cannot run from it. The libraries are all huge, because the subject of image processing is huge. - code reuse - ImageMagick has an active user and developer base; they usually fix a bug right after you post a bug report. > But I come up with an idea that > ImageMagick maybe not the best backend library for SIP. ImageMagick is > huge in size, 25mega bytes, which makes SIP cumbersome when installed on > Windows. What's more, I think what SIP really nead is a lightweight > image I/O library which can handle with the variety of image formats. > The image manipulation should be mainly implemented by SIP instead of > strong dependent on ImageMagick. Thus we can change SIP's functions as > we need, and the basic I/O image library can be packaged with SIP which > makes SIP's distribution easier. However, I know switching means much > coding and testing. >=20 > I've found such a library, Free Image Library, free, open source, simple > to use and deliver. I plan to test its ability as SIP's backend. I want > to hear your comments and opinions on the issue. >=20 > I hope SIP will become the official image processing toolbox for Scilab > in the future. I'll keep working for it. >=20 > Zhang Cheng >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practic= es > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & Q= A > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > SIPtoolbox-devel mailing list > SIP...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/siptoolbox-devel >=20 --=20 Ricardo Fabbri PhD Student in Computer Engineering / Computer Vision LEMS - Laboratory for Engineering Man-Machine Systems Brown University, USA |
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From: Zhang C. <ch...@ma...> - 2005-08-27 08:20:34
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Hi, all I'm sorry that I'm inactive for these days, because I'm quite busy with my homework. I spent some time on SIP's source code yesterday in order to fix the bug that Ricardo reported. Let me restate it: The calling to mogrify() from Scilab will cause Scilab to crash. I checked out mogrify_int.c, but found nothing unusual. So I suspect that this is a bug for Window ImageMagick, but I don't have time to prove it. A workaound currently is to rewrite mogrify() in Scilab script. If I have time, I'll give a try to it. But I come up with an idea that ImageMagick maybe not the best backend library for SIP. ImageMagick is huge in size, 25mega bytes, which makes SIP cumbersome when installed on Windows. What's more, I think what SIP really nead is a lightweight image I/O library which can handle with the variety of image formats. The image manipulation should be mainly implemented by SIP instead of strong dependent on ImageMagick. Thus we can change SIP's functions as we need, and the basic I/O image library can be packaged with SIP which makes SIP's distribution easier. However, I know switching means much coding and testing. I've found such a library, Free Image Library, free, open source, simple to use and deliver. I plan to test its ability as SIP's backend. I want to hear your comments and opinions on the issue. I hope SIP will become the official image processing toolbox for Scilab in the future. I'll keep working for it. Zhang Cheng |
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From: Zhang C. <ch...@ma...> - 2005-08-14 07:07:17
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Ricardo Fabbri wrote: >Hi Zhang, > >I tested the installer on a Windows XP machine, and I have to say, >it is really impressive!! Congratulations! > >It detected my scilab and imagemagick versions properly, and the >"Toolboxes" menu appeared; and the toolbox loaded. > >Now here's my first bug report: when running the TransMogrify demo, >Scilab simply crashes. > >The help pages seem to be working fine. The only issue is with the >links: "help fftderiv", for example. Try clicking on the "curvature" >link, and you'll see a "sip_hacking" in the address. Maybe you forgot >to remove that address?? > >But the rest is pretty amazing! Thank you _so_ much... just to elevate >your morale: I was offered a job in Europe once because of my >activities with SIP! > >Here are some minor remarks/ideas for us to discuss: > >- Should we ship ImageMagick in the binary version of SIP? This is >because, in general, binaries require a very specific verison of DLLs. >If the user tries to use another version of Imagemagick, our SIP >binary might not work properly. > >- Also, send us some notes / general guidelines on how to reproduce >what you did. > >- After we release a stable windows binary, you can put your name in >the copyright notices, and I'll list it in the SIP website if you >want. > > >Thank you so much, >keep it up! > > >------------------------------------------------------- >SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO >September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices >Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA >Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf >_______________________________________________ >SIPtoolbox-devel mailing list >SIP...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/siptoolbox-devel > > > Thank you for your encouragement very much, Ricardo! And I really really appreciate your generous permission that I can put my name in the copyright notices! I'll be very proud if my name can be listed in the SIP website! Compared to your contribution to SIP, Mine is far smaller than 1%:-) Thank you very very much! Thank you for your bug report and feedback. I should have found these bugs if I spent more time on testing. As for the TransMogrify Demo crash, I guess it may be caused by some modifications to the source code I made. And I'll to take a closer look at the help link issue. If I can't fix it, I'll try to use the Linux SIP's help pages instead. Moreover, I have a plan to add images in help files, which can make whole help pages vivid, right?;-) But I know the most priority is to make SIP stable on Windows. Thank you for telling me how to use SourceForge.net's file release system, I'll give it a try soon:-) Best regards! Zhang Cheng |
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From: Ricardo F. <rf...@gm...> - 2005-08-13 21:46:36
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Hi Zhang, I tested the installer on a Windows XP machine, and I have to say, it is really impressive!! Congratulations! It detected my scilab and imagemagick versions properly, and the "Toolboxes" menu appeared; and the toolbox loaded. Now here's my first bug report: when running the TransMogrify demo, Scilab simply crashes. The help pages seem to be working fine. The only issue is with the links: "help fftderiv", for example. Try clicking on the "curvature" link, and you'll see a "sip_hacking" in the address. Maybe you forgot to remove that address?? But the rest is pretty amazing! Thank you _so_ much... just to elevate your morale: I was offered a job in Europe once because of my activities with SIP! Here are some minor remarks/ideas for us to discuss: - Should we ship ImageMagick in the binary version of SIP? This is because, in general, binaries require a very specific verison of DLLs. If the user tries to use another version of Imagemagick, our SIP binary might not work properly. - Also, send us some notes / general guidelines on how to reproduce what you did. - After we release a stable windows binary, you can put your name in the copyright notices, and I'll list it in the SIP website if you want. Thank you so much, keep it up! |
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From: Ricardo F. <rf...@gm...> - 2005-08-13 21:33:28
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Hey, Zhang, thank you!!! I'll be installing in some windows machine in a few hours and give you feedback. Everybody can download the alpha version at: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3D68055&package_id=3D= 67061 Meanwhile, some administrivia: whenever I'm too busy or not around, you should release SIP for windows yourself using Sourceforge's file release system. I'm doing this one for now, but in the future you can do it. These are the steps to make a release: Source forge page -> Log in -> SIP sourceforge record -> Admin -> File Releases=20 Down at the file releases page, click "add release" or "edit release" to the SIP (beta or stable) or SIP-dev (alpha releases). For the windows version, I usually select "edit release", then choose the source release version corresponding to your windows SIP source version (last version on Sourceforge). Upload your file to upload.sf.net using regular ftp. Follow the steps in the release page. Read sourceforge documentation on the file release system; pay attention to the way Packages are organized and the files within them. I removed the binary versions from CVS. That's it! Now let me go test that windows version on my machine! Thanks again Zhang!! On 8/13/05, Zhang Cheng <ch...@ma...> wrote: > Hi, everyone! >=20 > After over one week's hard learning on Inno Seup(a free and > opensource installer authoring tool), I'm so excited to say SIP binary > installer for windows has just been built! You can download it on our > CVS server. >=20 > I have been working on it nearly 10 hours today, and so lucky am I > that I finished it in the end. The main features of the installer include= : >=20 > 1. Detect Scilab's installation path and version automatically, > prompt users to upgrade their Scilab if its version is lower than 3.1. > 2. SIPToolbox will be installed in contrib folder of Scilab > automatically. > 3. Detect ImageMagick's path and version automatically, prompt users > to upgrade ImageMagick if its version is lower than 6.2.3 > 4. ImageMagick's path will be written in loader_imagemagick.sce, so > when load SIPToolbox in Scilab, the ImageMagick's dlls can be load first > from their own folder. That means SIP's dlls needn't be bundled with > ImageMagick's dlls. The installer's size is reduced less than half of > the zip file.(I spent whole day on this feature:-)) >=20 > Two reasons I think make the setup still in alpha phase: the > documentation is incomplete and the installer hasn't been tested fully. > Please, if you have time, try to install it on your computer and send > your feedbacks to me. I'm so eager to hear your voice:-) >=20 > Have fun! >=20 > Zhang Cheng > Xian Jiaotong University, China >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practic= es > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & Q= A > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > SIPtoolbox-devel mailing list > SIP...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/siptoolbox-devel >=20 --=20 Ricardo Fabbri PhD Student in Computer Engineering / Computer Vision LEMS - Laboratory for Engineering Man-Machine Systems Brown University, USA |
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From: Zhang C. <ch...@ma...> - 2005-08-13 17:46:27
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Hi, everyone!
After over one week's hard learning on Inno Seup(a free and
opensource installer authoring tool), I'm so excited to say SIP binary
installer for windows has just been built! You can download it on our
CVS server.
I have been working on it nearly 10 hours today, and so lucky am I
that I finished it in the end. The main features of the installer include:
1. Detect Scilab's installation path and version automatically,
prompt users to upgrade their Scilab if its version is lower than 3.1.
2. SIPToolbox will be installed in contrib folder of Scilab
automatically.
3. Detect ImageMagick's path and version automatically, prompt users
to upgrade ImageMagick if its version is lower than 6.2.3
4. ImageMagick's path will be written in loader_imagemagick.sce, so
when load SIPToolbox in Scilab, the ImageMagick's dlls can be load first
from their own folder. That means SIP's dlls needn't be bundled with
ImageMagick's dlls. The installer's size is reduced less than half of
the zip file.(I spent whole day on this feature:-))
Two reasons I think make the setup still in alpha phase: the
documentation is incomplete and the installer hasn't been tested fully.
Please, if you have time, try to install it on your computer and send
your feedbacks to me. I'm so eager to hear your voice:-)
Have fun!
Zhang Cheng
Xian Jiaotong University, China
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From: Vitor V. A. S. <vi...@cn...> - 2005-08-09 22:09:20
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Dear friends, I know this a developer list and I'm proud to belong to it. But I can't avoid to ask you an almost dummy question: how to use xgetpixel() to get a list of points in an image and put them into a vector? I'm only able to get a lot of windows openeds... Thanks a lot, Vitor |
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From: Ricardo F. <rf...@gm...> - 2005-08-09 18:50:46
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Congratulations! Thank you so much Zhang! I'm sorry but its been really, really busy around here for me these days,= =20 we have a paper deadline for monday, I hardly have time to breathe :( But don't worry, soon I will give you some feedback. But keep going, I'm just your friend. SIP is your project; don't wait for me. On 8/7/05, Zhang Cheng <ch...@ma...> wrote: > Hi,all >=20 > I just uploaded a Zip file of Windows port SIP to our CVS server, > because I don't know where I should upload it. This is a zip file not a > binary installer, so you have to install it manually. But the process is > very simple: just extract the zip file and copy the siptoolbox folder > under the directory of Scilab_installation_path/contrib. Then run > scilab, a menu named *toolboxed* on the menu bar should appear, click > siptoolbox and test it please. >=20 > Since the learning curve of NSIS and InnoSetup is steep, especially > I want the installer can detect the existence of Scilab and ImageMagick > automatically, I have to write my own functions to do the job. So this > will take me some extra days to learn NSIS or InnoSetup. >=20 > After a short consideration, I think zip file may be a good choice > for the purpose to test SIP within Our team, because it's very easy for > me to make a zip file. I'm eager to hear your comments and suggestions > as early as possible. >=20 > Have fun! >=20 > Zhang Cheng >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practic= es > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & Q= A > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > SIPtoolbox-devel mailing list > SIP...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/siptoolbox-devel >=20 --=20 Ricardo Fabbri PhD Student in Computer Engineering / Computer Vision LEMS - Laboratory for Engineering Man-Machine Systems Brown University, USA |
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From: Zhang C. <ch...@ma...> - 2005-08-07 06:35:42
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Hi,all
I just uploaded a Zip file of Windows port SIP to our CVS server,
because I don't know where I should upload it. This is a zip file not a
binary installer, so you have to install it manually. But the process is
very simple: just extract the zip file and copy the siptoolbox folder
under the directory of Scilab_installation_path/contrib. Then run
scilab, a menu named *toolboxed* on the menu bar should appear, click
siptoolbox and test it please.
Since the learning curve of NSIS and InnoSetup is steep, especially
I want the installer can detect the existence of Scilab and ImageMagick
automatically, I have to write my own functions to do the job. So this
will take me some extra days to learn NSIS or InnoSetup.
After a short consideration, I think zip file may be a good choice
for the purpose to test SIP within Our team, because it's very easy for
me to make a zip file. I'm eager to hear your comments and suggestions
as early as possible.
Have fun!
Zhang Cheng
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From: Vitor V. A. S. <vi...@cn...> - 2005-08-05 14:59:52
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> Hi all, > > Although I had "joined" SIP, it is shame to say that I haven't > contribute anything to the groups. I am quite busy recently with my > daily job especially there is a date line project to rush on. > > Hope to catch up with you all soon and contribute something useful to > the team when I am able to... > > Good luck! > > yccheok Don't worry. I joined and worked in a very little task. Hope to contribute more soon, but we're all busy with our projects. But, maybe I can help to put some Snakes Segmentation inside SIP... Hope. ;-) Back to work (it's so hard to work in Rio with the sun shinning outside...), Vitor |
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From: Cheok Y. C. <yc...@gm...> - 2005-08-05 14:18:21
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Hi all, Although I had "joined" SIP, it is shame to say that I haven't contribute anything to the groups. I am quite busy recently with my daily job especially there is a date line project to rush on. Hope to catch up with you all soon and contribute something useful to the team when I am able to... Good luck! yccheok On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 22:19 -0400, Ricardo Fabbri wrote: > Hi, all, > > I've been extremely busy, my advisor pushing real hard, but I managed > to write this email to keep things going. > > I just updated the todo page: > https://sourceforge.net/pm/?group_id=68055 > > Basically the dates are innacurate, _except_ when the task is > attributed to someone. > > Highest priority is given to: > - Integers support subproject > - Display / Visualization subproject (e.g. improving Scilab's display) > - Port subproject (already being taken care of by Zhang, but more help > appreciated) > > All the other subprojects are important, but the choice depends on the > developer's personal taste. > > It would be nice if all of you interested in developing SIP (and > registered on sourceforge), pick some tasks. You may assign them for > yourselves using the task page, or just tell this list the tasks > your're interested and _when_ you plan to do them (no compromise of > course). > > Tell us your preferences, and what you definititely won't like to do. > > If you want to add any task related to your research and/or taste, > please let us know. > > I might be coding some camera geometry stuff in the near future. > > Have fun, |
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From: Ricardo F. <rf...@gm...> - 2005-08-05 02:47:31
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Just some remarks: - you may participate concurrently in a task that is already owned by someone else - When logged into Sourceforge, you may click on your personal page-> my tasks to see what are the tasks assigned to you - Everyone will be able to have a rough idea of when the next versions of SIP are supposed to be released, and by who, in the Releases subproject of the TODO list. good luck everyone, Ricardo. PS: Simple & new Scilab hints: clf - clear current plot; scf - create new plot window |
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From: Ricardo F. <rf...@gm...> - 2005-08-05 02:20:04
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Hi, all, I've been extremely busy, my advisor pushing real hard, but I managed to write this email to keep things going. I just updated the todo page:=20 https://sourceforge.net/pm/?group_id=3D68055 Basically the dates are innacurate, _except_ when the task is attributed to someone. Highest priority is given to: - Integers support subproject - Display / Visualization subproject (e.g. improving Scilab's display) - Port subproject (already being taken care of by Zhang, but more help appreciated) All the other subprojects are important, but the choice depends on the developer's personal taste. It would be nice if all of you interested in developing SIP (and registered on sourceforge), pick some tasks. You may assign them for yourselves using the task page, or just tell this list the tasks your're interested and _when_ you plan to do them (no compromise of course). Tell us your preferences, and what you definititely won't like to do. If you want to add any task related to your research and/or taste, please let us know. I might be coding some camera geometry stuff in the near future. Have fun, --=20 Ricardo Fabbri PhD Student in Computer Engineering / Computer Vision LEMS - Laboratory for Engineering Man-Machine Systems Brown University, USA |
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From: Ricardo F. <rf...@gm...> - 2005-07-31 15:07:35
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Hi Zhang, congratulations!!! That's really impressive, thanks! The reward of a windows verson is going to be awesome...=20 What version of imagemagick did you use? The real challenge in making an installable version on Windows is to: - Locate Magick config files and dll's, and make this work with any windows version, from 98 to XP. Perhaps we should ship an imagemagick binary within the SIP binary installation package? - Build the help pages. Probably you'll have to ship the HTML already built in the bin package But you're pretty close now, good luck! -- Ricardo. On 7/30/05, Zhang Cheng <ch...@ma...> wrote: > Hi,all >=20 > I'm very very excited to announce the Windows port libsip.dll has > just been build. I load it in Scilab and test the function of imread() > and imfinfo(), it works! I think all the other functions will work fine, > I'll test them tomorrow:-) >=20 > I'll continue to work on the port. The next step I plan to do is to > build a binary installer as soon as possible to share the joy with you:-) >=20 > Zhang Cheng >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies > from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to > speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7477&alloc_id=3D16492&op=3Dclic= k > _______________________________________________ > SIPtoolbox-devel mailing list > SIP...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/siptoolbox-devel >=20 --=20 Ricardo Fabbri PhD Student in Computer Engineering / Computer Vision LEMS - Laboratory for Engineering Man-Machine Systems Brown University, USA |
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From: Ricardo F. <rf...@gm...> - 2005-07-31 14:59:01
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Hi Zhang, It's defined in sip_config.h and the actual value is set by the configure script. On 7/30/05, Zhang Cheng <ch...@ma...> wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Is the macro SIP_MAGICK_DEFAULT_COMPRESSION_QUALITY undefined in > mogrify_int.c(line 1300) of sip? >=20 > Zhang Cheng >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies > from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to > speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7477&alloc_id=3D16492&op=3Dclic= k > _______________________________________________ > SIPtoolbox-devel mailing list > SIP...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/siptoolbox-devel >=20 --=20 Ricardo Fabbri PhD Student in Computer Engineering / Computer Vision LEMS - Laboratory for Engineering Man-Machine Systems Brown University, USA |
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From: Zhang C. <ch...@ma...> - 2005-07-30 15:28:58
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Hi,all
I'm very very excited to announce the Windows port libsip.dll has
just been build. I load it in Scilab and test the function of imread()
and imfinfo(), it works! I think all the other functions will work fine,
I'll test them tomorrow:-)
I'll continue to work on the port. The next step I plan to do is to
build a binary installer as soon as possible to share the joy with you:-)
Zhang Cheng
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From: Zhang C. <ch...@ma...> - 2005-07-30 11:31:06
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Hi,
Is the macro SIP_MAGICK_DEFAULT_COMPRESSION_QUALITY undefined in
mogrify_int.c(line 1300) of sip?
Zhang Cheng
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From: Zhang C. <ch...@ma...> - 2005-07-29 14:28:13
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Hi, all
I'm so glad to let you know I just built libanimal.dll on Windows,
but haven't tested it:-)
It's 10:30PM now in China so I have no time today. I'll test it
tomorrow. Bless me,please:-)
Zhang Cheng
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From: Cheok Y. C. <yc...@gm...> - 2005-07-29 12:47:18
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On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 22:19 -0400, Ricardo Fabbri wrote: > Hi Yan, > > we are glad to welcome another developer! > Please present yourself to us, basically tell us what is your background, > what kind of things you specially like and dislike.. > Hi Ricardo, thank you very much! i am great to hear that. my name is yan cheng ;) cheok is my family name :D basically, i am quite comfortable with c, c++ and Java. however, i haven't touch on Java for quite some time. i am very interested in image processing field. i am quite new to this field. i do have some hand-on project in image processing field just for my self-learning purpose. i was exposed to Linux and Open Source concept a year ago. Now, i am a big fan to them. Ubuntu is currently my favorite Linux distribution. i try to involve myself in this concept by taking part in several open source projects. http://sourceforge.net/projects/numrecognition/ - an experimental project to use neural network and image processing to recognize number. i am the originator and there isn't any active activities going on :P http://sourceforge.net/projects/joone/ - a very nice neural network api. also no active activities going on at this moment from my side :P currently, i plan to learn the common development tools used in Linux. Porting SIP to windows seems give me a great chance to understand those automake, configure, make... tools :D Will try to look into ur tutorial on windows port and get it up and run within this few days... cheok |
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From: Zhang C. <ch...@ma...> - 2005-07-29 03:05:53
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Ricardo Fabbri wrote: >Hi Zhang > > > >> I'm doing some hacking to simpletoolbox. Becauce I got disappointed >>with Mingw and MSYS, I decide to use native build tool on Windows. >> >> > >Nice.. I would at least leave a comment on MinGW forums/lists, at >least for _their_ benefit. They are usually very responsive. > > > >>I >>read some articles on web talking about the GNU build system(aka >>autoconf,automake,libtool) and its alternative such as >>CMake(www.cmake.org) and SCons(www.scons.org). The capability of >>cross-platform build of the later two is very impressive. Used in VXL >>project, CMake shoud be familiar to Ricardo. >> >> > >That's cool. CMake is specially good for C++ code. The only issue with >it is to learn how to build a loadable module using it. Also, CMake >has poor documentation online AFAIK, the only complete and didatic doc >is the book, which you have to pay for. Anyways, my knowledge of CMake >is far less than autotools (yep, this is no excuse).. > > > Yes, the so limited documentation of CMake is a big problem... I'll give a try on Scons today and compare them. >What I like about Autotools is the flexibility a "configure.ac" script >offers for unix systems, since you can write any portable shell script >to test virtually anything. Animal is so portable: it works with _any_ >ImageMagick version! Cmake can possibly do the same, but I really have >no knowledge how.. that would be a major effort. > > > >> I modify the SimpleToolbox today and use nmake( command line tools >>from Microsoft, also used by Scilab ) to build it. I succeed in >>generating libsimple.dll and loader.sce and installing them under the >>directory SCILAB/contrib automatically :-) >> >> > >That's awesome.. did you actually load the toolbox and typed >soma(2,3) and got 5 ? :-) > > > Of cause:-) >>Now I want to liston to other developers' ideas and suggestions for >>further hacking. >> >> > >Just a little piece of advice: under windows, it is more important to >make an installable binary than to make an easy-to-compile source. >Another advice: take note of your hacks :) > > > Yes, I use the commands nmake && nmake install in the command line window for sake of convience. I share the same idea with you that we should make an binary installer on Windows:-) >> How can I put a *toolbox* button on the panel of Scilab? What files >>shall I have to add under the directory SCILAB/contrib/simple? Now there >>are only two files(libsimple.dll and loader.sce) in that folder. >> >> > >Put a dummy empty builder.sce in there too. > > Yeah! It works! The button is so lovely! Thank you! >good luck, > > |
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From: Ricardo F. <rf...@gm...> - 2005-07-29 02:44:34
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Hi Zhang >=20 > I'm doing some hacking to simpletoolbox. Becauce I got disappointed > with Mingw and MSYS, I decide to use native build tool on Windows. Nice.. I would at least leave a comment on MinGW forums/lists, at least for _their_ benefit. They are usually very responsive. > I > read some articles on web talking about the GNU build system(aka > autoconf,automake,libtool) and its alternative such as > CMake(www.cmake.org) and SCons(www.scons.org). The capability of > cross-platform build of the later two is very impressive. Used in VXL > project, CMake shoud be familiar to Ricardo. That's cool. CMake is specially good for C++ code. The only issue with it is to learn how to build a loadable module using it. Also, CMake has poor documentation online AFAIK, the only complete and didatic doc is the book, which you have to pay for. Anyways, my knowledge of CMake is far less than autotools (yep, this is no excuse).. What I like about Autotools is the flexibility a "configure.ac" script offers for unix systems, since you can write any portable shell script to test virtually anything. Animal is so portable: it works with _any_ ImageMagick version! Cmake can possibly do the same, but I really have no knowledge how.. that would be a major effort. >=20 > I modify the SimpleToolbox today and use nmake( command line tools > from Microsoft, also used by Scilab ) to build it. I succeed in > generating libsimple.dll and loader.sce and installing them under the > directory SCILAB/contrib automatically :-) That's awesome.. did you actually load the toolbox and typed=20 soma(2,3) and got 5 ? :-) >=20 > Now I want to liston to other developers' ideas and suggestions for > further hacking. Just a little piece of advice: under windows, it is more important to make an installable binary than to make an easy-to-compile source. Another advice: take note of your hacks :) > How can I put a *toolbox* button on the panel of Scilab? What files > shall I have to add under the directory SCILAB/contrib/simple? Now there > are only two files(libsimple.dll and loader.sce) in that folder. Put a dummy empty builder.sce in there too. good luck, --=20 Ricardo Fabbri PhD Student in Computer Engineering / Computer Vision LEMS - Laboratory for Engineering Man-Machine Systems Brown University, USA |
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From: Ricardo F. <rf...@gm...> - 2005-07-29 02:19:14
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Hi Yan, we are glad to welcome another developer! Please present yourself to us, basically tell us what is your background, what kind of things you specially like and dislike.. > This few days, I saw some SIP mailing list is going hot into my mailbox. = ;) thanks to new & active developers like Zhang and Angus :-) You know, I haven't been inclined to work alone anymore, its too boring and I really don't have much time.. > SIP seems like an interesting project. Can I join this project? Is > there any task which may be taken by me at this moment? There are a bunch of tasks, as listed bellow, but the main priority now has been to port the latest SIP to Windows. Zhang is taking care of that, but two developers won't be little for this.. You could help Zhang, but to start with try the following link: http://siptoolbox.sourceforge.net/devel/windows-port.php First port the simple toolbox, then animal, then SIP. If you wish to do any other task that's totally fine, although not a priority. You can check anything at the following todo (which is a little outdated but OK): http://sourceforge.net/pm/?group_id=3D68055 Or any task you yourself would like to see done in SIP would be welcome. =20 > I had been sourceforge user for some time and know the basic usage for > cvs (i am once using tkcvs as gui tool. now, i stick to lincvs under > linux and tortoise cvs under windows) I've been using Cervisia in Konqueror/KDE, and it's really good. I wonder how it compares to lincvs.. feel free to drop another email anytime if you have concerns. -- Ricardo. |
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From: Zhang C. <ch...@ma...> - 2005-07-28 14:42:13
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Yan Cheng Cheok wrote: >Hello Fabbri, > >This few days, I saw some SIP mailing list is going hot into my mailbox. ;) > >SIP seems like an interesting project. Can I join this project? Is >there any task which may be taken by me at this moment? > >I had been sourceforge user for some time and know the basic usage for >cvs (i am once using tkcvs as gui tool. now, i stick to lincvs under >linux and tortoise cvs under windows) > >thank you very much and hope to hear from you soon. > >cheok > >On 7/27/05, Ricardo Fabbri <rf...@gm...> wrote: > > >>Hi, Zhang, >> >>nice that you tried. It is a slow process, don't get disappointed. >>Let's try it little by little. >> >>I don't get those annoying permisison denied errors you are getting. >>Perhaps it would be a good idea to report the issue to MinGW mailing >>lists or developers. >>MinGW is supposed to be extremely stable..... >> >>well, good luck, and feel free to work in any activity, although this >>one is priority.. >>thanks, >> >>On 7/26/05, Zhang Cheng <ch...@ma...> wrote: >> >> >>>Ricardo Fabbri wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi guys, >>>> >>>>the next step is for you to try to compile the simple toolbox on >>>>windows using MinGW. >>>>More instrunctions available at: >>>>http://siptoolbox.sourceforge.net/devel/windows-port.php >>>> >>>>after you succeed porting simple we then move to the next step. >>>>Contact this list at will during the process. >>>> >>>>PS: just to elevate our moods, check out: >>>>http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=68055&ugn=siptoolbox >>>> >>>>we are top 99,5% active in Sourceforge, around top 600 project, out of 100,000 >>>> >>>>And this is without an updated windows version. Imagine with a new windows, >>>>how can we boost the use of SIP and scilab as never before ;-) >>>> >>>>We all know SIP is a killer app for software like Scilab... Oh, and >>>>check also the freshmeat database: >>>>http://freshmeat.net/projects/siptoolbox/ >>>> >>>>We have 53 release subscribers just in there.. >>>> >>>>This project has very wide visibility, make use of it :) >>>>Good luck! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>I feel so bad to say that MingW is too unstable, very disappointing. >>>When I do ./configure, make and make clean and make again, some warnings >>>saying "Permission Denied" pop up on my MSYS and the make process cann't >>>continue. I close MSYS window and re-start it, the problem remains the same. >>>The only solution is reboot my computer. It's really unbearable! >>> >>>I tried many times and succeeded only once. Although I renamed "LibSci*" >>>to lowercase, make still can't find "libsci*" and warn that it can only >>>build static library instead of dynamic library. I succeeded only once in >>>building dynamic library and the whole process was very smooth, but I >>>failed in other cases. >>> >>>I didn't expect the huge difficulty of Windows port, now I begin to under- >>>stand it...:-( >>> >>>Zhang Cheng >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies >>>from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, >>>informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to >>>speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SIPtoolbox-devel mailing list >>>SIP...@li... >>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/siptoolbox-devel >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Ricardo Fabbri >> >>PhD Student in Computer Engineering / Computer Vision >>LEMS - Laboratory for Engineering Man-Machine Systems >>Brown University, USA >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies >>from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, >>informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to >>speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77&alloc_id492&opclick >>_______________________________________________ >>SIPtoolbox-devel mailing list >>SIP...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/siptoolbox-devel >> >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------- >SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September >19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices >Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA >Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf >_______________________________________________ >SIPtoolbox-devel mailing list >SIP...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/siptoolbox-devel > > > Hi, Yan I'm so glad to see your email. If you want to join SIP project, You may send a email to Ricardo, our Project Leader:-) I'm doing some hacking to simpletoolbox. Becauce I got disappointed with Mingw and MSYS, I decide to use native build tool on Windows. I read some articles on web talking about the GNU build system(aka autoconf,automake,libtool) and its alternative such as CMake(www.cmake.org) and SCons(www.scons.org). The capability of cross-platform build of the later two is very impressive. Used in VXL project, CMake shoud be familiar to Ricardo. I modify the SimpleToolbox today and use nmake( command line tools from Microsoft, also used by Scilab ) to build it. I succeed in generating libsimple.dll and loader.sce and installing them under the directory SCILAB/contrib automatically:-) Now I want to liston to other developers' ideas and suggections for further hacking. BTW: How can I put a *toolbox* button on the panel of Scilab? What files shall I have to add under the directory SCILAB/contrib/simple? Now there are only two files(libsimple.dll and loader.sce) in that folder. Zhang Cheng |
