Fwd: [Simplygnustep-discuss] Progress

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> From: Justin Cutietta <jcu...@ya...>
> Date: Tue May 6, 2003  09:31:20 Pacific/Honolulu
> To: ceh...@ma...
> Subject: Re: [Simplygnustep-discuss] Progress
>
>
> --- ceh...@ma... wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 12:33 Pacific/Honolulu,
>> Justin Cutietta
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yay. I've had to fix and change my build machine,
>> so
>>> it's good to hear that everything is good. Also,
>> for
>>> all, I have a status report on the installer. It's
>>> done for a beta release. It does need some work,
>> but I
>>> can report that tabs now work, and NSTask is
>> called!.
>>
>>
>> Awesome!!!  That is way cool, can you send me the
>> new tarball?
>
>
> yup. i'll be sending from my other email,
> jcu...@co...(I have more space to send files w/
> them.).
>> Also, I came up with this idea today...
>> Why not the make install cdrom BOTH an install disc
>> AND a live-cd
>> setup?  That way, the person can try out GNUstep
>> BEFORE actually
>> installing it!
> cool.
>
>> My idea is to hve the very first
>> screen of the
>> installer have two buttons, an "Install..." and a
>> "Try out now..."
>> button.
> hm. would this be grub(at boot time), or maybe have it
> call up a script to start live.(which I think is
> better).
>
>>  Since so many libs and app are needed to
>> just get the
>> installer running it would be trivial to add some
>> basic GNUstep apps,
>> such as GNUMail, GORM, etc, to the mix.
>>
>> I actually think most people just want to try out
>> the distro, not
>> actually install (at least for now), so I think that
>> this setup would
>> please a lot of people.
> Yea, I don't think a lot of people have a spare
> machine to try this with, or a VirtualPC program.
>
>>
>>
>>> also, just out of curiosity, with SCO being how
>> they
>>> are, are there any contingency(sp?) plans should
>> IBM
>>> be found guilty?
>>>  since the system is so radically
>>> different, I'd imagine that makeing a cross over
>> to a
>>> new kernel would be minimally disruptive.
>>
>> I honestly have not considered this.  Such a
>> situation may push more
>> and faster development of GNU Hurd.  There are
>> plenty of other kernels
>> out there, though they lack many features.  Any
>> ideas for an alternate
>> kernel?
>>
>
> Well, I like Hurd, but it's not ready yet. I think
> FreeBSD's kernel would be a good choice. I don't think
> this will be an issue, but better safe than sorry.
>
>>>  Anyways,
>>> I'll throw out one more, and then get back to
>> stuff.
>>> In terms of marketing(DUM dum DUMM), would we ever
>>> offer a 'box set', complete with printed copies of
>>> documentation, as well as full CD's, including
>> source?
>>> and, if so, would we also have a server version,
>> with
>>> something like GSWeb and GDL2, preconfigured and
>> with
>>> a GUI control center? Just throwing out ideas.
>>
>> I have been thinking about this for quite a while.
>> I think out can
>> roll out a nice setup for about $5 a pop.  this
>> would include a DVD
>> case with 2 disc inserts (Install and source discs),
>> and a small
>> booklet.  this $5 estimate includes nice cd labels
>> and a nice DVD case
>> outsert.  I was thinking we could auction these on
>> eBay, starting at
>> maybe $10, and use the "profit" to compensate the
>> person doing the
>> labor of creating, selling, and mailing the "box
>> set" as well as to
>> donate money to various opensource projects, mostly
>> GNUstep suppose.  I
>> think that this could easilly generate thousands of
>> dollars.  How this
>> money would help the gnustep project I'm not exactly
>> sure, at the
>> minimum it could be used to create "giveaway" items
>> to hand out at
>> opensource events, such as t-shirts, coffee cups,
>> stickers, etc.  Such
>> things go a long way to generate interest in a
>> project and it may bring
>> in more volunteers.
>> I don't know, just an idea.  What do ya'll think?
>> Of couse, we have to
>> have a decent working project first, or at least one
>> at the "Beta"
>> stage.
>>
>
> Very Nice. I can do something like that for where I
> am(Northeastern USA, in Boston), and I can vouch that
> the area has some die hard linux fans. to anyone else
> on the list: where are you? Can you help? I remember
> netbsd having a map of all their developers(along w/ a
> link to some pbs site that let you see what would
> happen if you dropped a nuke on your house :-).
>
>
>>
>
>>> ps to chad-enjoy your vacay(if that's what it is)
>> I wish!  Actually it's military related duty.  I
>> will still have
>> dial-up (i hope) and my notebook, so I may get some
>> work done.
>
> well, take care. I wish you a safe return.
>
> Justin
>
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