Re: [Shellweb-main] Re: install Gtk2-Perl problem

[fayland <fa...@gm...>]

可能是 nmake 的问题。下个 1.5 的试试。
http://download.microsoft.com/download/vc15/Patch/1.52/W95/EN-US/Nmake15.exe

ale...@gm... wrote:
> 从上面来看，编译没有问题，问题出在了联接时。
> 你再把makefile文件发过来看看。
> 还有你的perl版本？perl是否被修改过，或是否有问题？
>
> 在 06-1-17，Roger Zheng<rog...@gm...> 写道：
>   
>> 下面就是我在编译Glib过程中出现的所有信息。
>>
>> F:\Gtk2-perl\Glib-1.100>perl makefile.pl
>> Including ApiDoc pod...
>> Deleting Glib from doc.pl's $data
>> Writing build/IFiles.pm
>> you are using MSVC... my condolences.
>> you are using MSVC... my condolences.
>> loathe nmake.
>> Writing Makefile for Glib
>>
>> F:\Gtk2-perl\Glib-1.100>nmake
>>
>> Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility   Version 6.00.8168.0
>> Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1988-1998. All rights reserved.
>>
>> Skip blib\arch/Glib/Install/Files.pm (unchanged)
>> Skip blib\lib/Glib/Object/Subclass.pm (unchanged)
>> Skip blib\arch/Glib/Install/gperl.h (unchanged)
>> Skip blib\lib/Glib.pm (unchanged)
>> Skip blib\lib/Glib/GenPod.pm (unchanged)
>> Skip blib\lib/Glib/CodeGen.pm (unchanged)
>> Skip blib\arch/Glib/Install/gperl_marshal.h (unchanged)
>> Skip blib\lib/Glib/devel.pod (unchanged)
>> Skip blib\lib/Glib/ParseXSDoc.pm (unchanged)
>> Skip blib\arch/Glib/Install/doctypes (unchanged)
>> Skip blib\lib/Glib/MakeHelper.pm (unchanged)
>> Skip blib\arch/Glib/Install/typemap (unchanged)
>>         cl -c  -IC:/GTK/include/glib-2.0 -IC:/GTK/lib/glib-2.0/include
>> -I.  -nologo -Gf -W3 -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1 -DWIN32
>>  -D_CONSOLE -DNO_STRICT -DHAVE_DES_FCRYPT -DBUILT_BY_ACTIVESTATE
>> -DNO_HASH_SEED -DUSE_SITECUSTOMIZE -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONT
>> EXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DUSE_PERLIO -DPERL_MSVCRT_READFIX -MD -Zi
>> -DNDEBUG -O1    -DVERSION=\"1.100\"  -DXS_VERSION=\"1
>> .100\" /FoGlib.obj  "-IC:\Perl\lib\CORE"   Glib.c
>> Glib.c
>>         cl -c  -IC:/GTK/include/glib-2.0 -IC:/GTK/lib/glib-2.0/include
>> -I.  -nologo -Gf -W3 -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1 -DWIN32
>>  -D_CONSOLE -DNO_STRICT -DHAVE_DES_FCRYPT -DBUILT_BY_ACTIVESTATE
>> -DNO_HASH_SEED -DUSE_SITECUSTOMIZE -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONT
>> EXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DUSE_PERLIO -DPERL_MSVCRT_READFIX -MD -Zi
>> -DNDEBUG -O1    -DVERSION=\"1.100\"  -DXS_VERSION=\"1
>> .100\" /FoGError.obj  "-IC:\Perl\lib\CORE"   GError.c
>> GError.c
>>         cl -c  -IC:/GTK/include/glib-2.0 -IC:/GTK/lib/glib-2.0/include
>> -I.  -nologo -Gf -W3 -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1 -DWIN32
>>  -D_CONSOLE -DNO_STRICT -DHAVE_DES_FCRYPT -DBUILT_BY_ACTIVESTATE
>> -DNO_HASH_SEED -DUSE_SITECUSTOMIZE -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONT
>> EXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DUSE_PERLIO -DPERL_MSVCRT_READFIX -MD -Zi
>> -DNDEBUG -O1    -DVERSION=\"1.100\"  -DXS_VERSION=\"1
>> .100\" /FoGUtils.obj  "-IC:\Perl\lib\CORE"   GUtils.c
>> GUtils.c
>>         cl -c  -IC:/GTK/include/glib-2.0 -IC:/GTK/lib/glib-2.0/include
>> -I.  -nologo -Gf -W3 -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1 -DWIN32
>>  -D_CONSOLE -DNO_STRICT -DHAVE_DES_FCRYPT -DBUILT_BY_ACTIVESTATE
>> -DNO_HASH_SEED -DUSE_SITECUSTOMIZE -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONT
>> EXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DUSE_PERLIO -DPERL_MSVCRT_READFIX -MD -Zi
>> -DNDEBUG -O1    -DVERSION=\"1.100\"  -DXS_VERSION=\"1
>> .100\" /FoGLog.obj  "-IC:\Perl\lib\CORE"   GLog.c
>> GLog.c
>>         cl -c  -IC:/GTK/include/glib-2.0 -IC:/GTK/lib/glib-2.0/include
>> -I.  -nologo -Gf -W3 -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1 -DWIN32
>>  -D_CONSOLE -DNO_STRICT -DHAVE_DES_FCRYPT -DBUILT_BY_ACTIVESTATE
>> -DNO_HASH_SEED -DUSE_SITECUSTOMIZE -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONT
>> EXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DUSE_PERLIO -DPERL_MSVCRT_READFIX -MD -Zi
>> -DNDEBUG -O1    -DVERSION=\"1.100\"  -DXS_VERSION=\"1
>> .100\" /FoGType.obj  "-IC:\Perl\lib\CORE"   GType.c
>> GType.c
>>         cl -c  -IC:/GTK/include/glib-2.0 -IC:/GTK/lib/glib-2.0/include
>> -I.  -nologo -Gf -W3 -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1 -DWIN32
>>  -D_CONSOLE -DNO_STRICT -DHAVE_DES_FCRYPT -DBUILT_BY_ACTIVESTATE
>> -DNO_HASH_SEED -DUSE_SITECUSTOMIZE -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONT
>> EXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DUSE_PERLIO -DPERL_MSVCRT_READFIX -MD -Zi
>> -DNDEBUG -O1    -DVERSION=\"1.100\"  -DXS_VERSION=\"1
>> .100\" /FoGBoxed.obj  "-IC:\Perl\lib\CORE"   GBoxed.c
>> GBoxed.c
>>         cl -c  -IC:/GTK/include/glib-2.0 -IC:/GTK/lib/glib-2.0/include
>> -I.  -nologo -Gf -W3 -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1 -DWIN32
>>  -D_CONSOLE -DNO_STRICT -DHAVE_DES_FCRYPT -DBUILT_BY_ACTIVESTATE
>> -DNO_HASH_SEED -DUSE_SITECUSTOMIZE -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONT
>> EXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DUSE_PERLIO -DPERL_MSVCRT_READFIX -MD -Zi
>> -DNDEBUG -O1    -DVERSION=\"1.100\"  -DXS_VERSION=\"1
>> .100\" /FoGObject.obj  "-IC:\Perl\lib\CORE"   GObject.c
>> GObject.c
>>         cl -c  -IC:/GTK/include/glib-2.0 -IC:/GTK/lib/glib-2.0/include
>> -I.  -nologo -Gf -W3 -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1 -DWIN32
>>  -D_CONSOLE -DNO_STRICT -DHAVE_DES_FCRYPT -DBUILT_BY_ACTIVESTATE
>> -DNO_HASH_SEED -DUSE_SITECUSTOMIZE -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONT
>> EXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DUSE_PERLIO -DPERL_MSVCRT_READFIX -MD -Zi
>> -DNDEBUG -O1    -DVERSION=\"1.100\"  -DXS_VERSION=\"1
>> .100\" /FoGValue.obj  "-IC:\Perl\lib\CORE"   GValue.c
>> GValue.c
>>         cl -c  -IC:/GTK/include/glib-2.0 -IC:/GTK/lib/glib-2.0/include
>> -I.  -nologo -Gf -W3 -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1 -DWIN32
>>  -D_CONSOLE -DNO_STRICT -DHAVE_DES_FCRYPT -DBUILT_BY_ACTIVESTATE
>> -DNO_HASH_SEED -DUSE_SITECUSTOMIZE -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONT
>> EXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DUSE_PERLIO -DPERL_MSVCRT_READFIX -MD -Zi
>> -DNDEBUG -O1    -DVERSION=\"1.100\"  -DXS_VERSION=\"1
>> .100\" /FoGClosure.obj  "-IC:\Perl\lib\CORE"   GClosure.c
>> GClosure.c
>>         cl -c  -IC:/GTK/include/glib-2.0 -IC:/GTK/lib/glib-2.0/include
>> -I.  -nologo -Gf -W3 -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1 -DWIN32
>>  -D_CONSOLE -DNO_STRICT -DHAVE_DES_FCRYPT -DBUILT_BY_ACTIVESTATE
>> -DNO_HASH_SEED -DUSE_SITECUSTOMIZE -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONT
>> EXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DUSE_PERLIO -DPERL_MSVCRT_READFIX -MD -Zi
>> -DNDEBUG -O1    -DVERSION=\"1.100\"  -DXS_VERSION=\"1
>> .100\" /FoGSignal.obj  "-IC:\Perl\lib\CORE"   GSignal.c
>> GSignal.c
>> GSignal.xs(134) : warning C4018: '<' : signed/unsigned mismatch
>> GSignal.xs(448) : warning C4018: '<' : signed/unsigned mismatch
>>         cl -c  -IC:/GTK/include/glib-2.0 -IC:/GTK/lib/glib-2.0/include
>> -I.  -nologo -Gf -W3 -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1 -DWIN32
>>  -D_CONSOLE -DNO_STRICT -DHAVE_DES_FCRYPT -DBUILT_BY_ACTIVESTATE
>> -DNO_HASH_SEED -DUSE_SITECUSTOMIZE -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONT
>> EXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DUSE_PERLIO -DPERL_MSVCRT_READFIX -MD -Zi
>> -DNDEBUG -O1    -DVERSION=\"1.100\"  -DXS_VERSION=\"1
>> .100\" /FoGMainLoop.obj  "-IC:\Perl\lib\CORE"   GMainLoop.c
>> GMainLoop.c
>> GMainLoop.xs(512) : warning C4047: 'function' : 'int ' differs in
>> levels of indirection from 'void *'
>> GMainLoop.xs(512) : warning C4024: 'g_io_channel_win32_new_socket' :
>> different types for formal and actual parameter 1
>>         cl -c  -IC:/GTK/include/glib-2.0 -IC:/GTK/lib/glib-2.0/include
>> -I.  -nologo -Gf -W3 -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1 -DWIN32
>>  -D_CONSOLE -DNO_STRICT -DHAVE_DES_FCRYPT -DBUILT_BY_ACTIVESTATE
>> -DNO_HASH_SEED -DUSE_SITECUSTOMIZE -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONT
>> EXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DUSE_PERLIO -DPERL_MSVCRT_READFIX -MD -Zi
>> -DNDEBUG -O1    -DVERSION=\"1.100\"  -DXS_VERSION=\"1
>> .100\" /FoGIOChannel.obj  "-IC:\Perl\lib\CORE"   GIOChannel.c
>> GIOChannel.c
>>         cl -c  -IC:/GTK/include/glib-2.0 -IC:/GTK/lib/glib-2.0/include
>> -I.  -nologo -Gf -W3 -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1 -DWIN32
>>  -D_CONSOLE -DNO_STRICT -DHAVE_DES_FCRYPT -DBUILT_BY_ACTIVESTATE
>> -DNO_HASH_SEED -DUSE_SITECUSTOMIZE -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONT
>> EXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DUSE_PERLIO -DPERL_MSVCRT_READFIX -MD -Zi
>> -DNDEBUG -O1    -DVERSION=\"1.100\"  -DXS_VERSION=\"1
>> .100\" /FoGParamSpec.obj  "-IC:\Perl\lib\CORE"   GParamSpec.c
>> GParamSpec.c
>> GParamSpec.xs(652) : warning C4244: '=' : conversion from '__int64 '
>> to 'long ', possible loss of data
>> GParamSpec.xs(679) : warning C4244: '=' : conversion from '__int64 '
>> to 'long ', possible loss of data
>> GParamSpec.xs(706) : warning C4244: '=' : conversion from '__int64 '
>> to 'long ', possible loss of data
>> GParamSpec.xs(753) : warning C4244: '=' : conversion from 'unsigned
>> __int64 ' to 'unsigned long ', possible loss of data
>>
>> GParamSpec.xs(780) : warning C4244: '=' : conversion from 'unsigned
>> __int64 ' to 'unsigned long ', possible loss of data
>>
>> GParamSpec.xs(807) : warning C4244: '=' : conversion from 'unsigned
>> __int64 ' to 'unsigned long ', possible loss of data
>>
>>         cl -c  -IC:/GTK/include/glib-2.0 -IC:/GTK/lib/glib-2.0/include
>> -I.  -nologo -Gf -W3 -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1 -DWIN32
>>  -D_CONSOLE -DNO_STRICT -DHAVE_DES_FCRYPT -DBUILT_BY_ACTIVESTATE
>> -DNO_HASH_SEED -DUSE_SITECUSTOMIZE -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONT
>> EXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DUSE_PERLIO -DPERL_MSVCRT_READFIX -MD -Zi
>> -DNDEBUG -O1    -DVERSION=\"1.100\"  -DXS_VERSION=\"1
>> .100\" /FoGKeyFile.obj  "-IC:\Perl\lib\CORE"   GKeyFile.c
>> GKeyFile.c
>>         cl -c  -IC:/GTK/include/glib-2.0 -IC:/GTK/lib/glib-2.0/include
>> -I.  -nologo -Gf -W3 -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1 -DWIN32
>>  -D_CONSOLE -DNO_STRICT -DHAVE_DES_FCRYPT -DBUILT_BY_ACTIVESTATE
>> -DNO_HASH_SEED -DUSE_SITECUSTOMIZE -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONT
>> EXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DUSE_PERLIO -DPERL_MSVCRT_READFIX -MD -Zi
>> -DNDEBUG -O1    -DVERSION=\"1.100\"  -DXS_VERSION=\"1
>> .100\" /Fogperl-gtypes.obj  "-IC:\Perl\lib\CORE"   gperl-gtypes.c
>> gperl-gtypes.c
>> Running Mkbootstrap for Glib ()
>>         C:\Perl\bin\perl.exe -MExtUtils::Command -e chmod 644 Glib.bs
>>         C:\Perl\bin\perl.exe -MExtUtils::Mksymlists  -e
>> "Mksymlists('NAME'=>\"Glib\", 'DLBASE' => 'Glib', 'DL_FUNCS' =>
>> { Glib=>[] }, 'FUNCLIST' => [q[SvGChar], q[SvGParamFlags],
>> q[SvGParamSpec], q[SvGSignalFlags], q[_gperl_call_XS], q[gper
>> l_alloc_temp], q[gperl_argv_free], q[gperl_argv_new],
>> q[gperl_argv_update], q[gperl_boxed_package_from_type], q[gperl_bo
>> xed_type_from_package], q[gperl_callback_destroy],
>> q[gperl_callback_invoke], q[gperl_callback_new], q[gperl_closure_new]
>> , q[gperl_closure_new_with_marshaller], q[gperl_convert_back_enum],
>> q[gperl_convert_back_enum_pass_unknown], q[gperl_con
>> vert_back_flags], q[gperl_convert_enum], q[gperl_convert_flag_one],
>> q[gperl_convert_flags], q[gperl_croak_gerror], q[gpe
>> rl_default_boxed_wrapper_class], q[gperl_filename_from_sv],
>> q[gperl_format_variable_for_output], q[gperl_fundamental_pac
>> kage_from_type], q[gperl_fundamental_type_from_package],
>> q[gperl_gerror_from_sv], q[gperl_get_boxed_check], q[gperl_get_
>> object], q[gperl_get_object_check], q[gperl_handle_logs_for],
>> q[gperl_install_exception_handler], q[gperl_new_boxed], q[
>> gperl_new_boxed_copy], q[gperl_new_object],
>> q[gperl_object_check_type], q[gperl_object_package_from_type],
>> q[gperl_objec
>> t_set_no_warn_unreg_subclass], q[gperl_object_stash_from_type],
>> q[gperl_object_type_from_package], q[gperl_package_from_
>> type], q[gperl_param_spec_package_from_type], q[gperl_prepend_isa],
>> q[gperl_register_boxed], q[gperl_register_error_doma
>> in], q[gperl_register_fundamental], q[gperl_register_object],
>> q[gperl_register_sink_func], q[gperl_remove_exception_hand
>> ler], q[gperl_run_exception_handlers], q[gperl_set_isa],
>> q[gperl_signal_connect], q[gperl_signal_set_marshaller_for], q[
>> gperl_str_eq], q[gperl_str_hash], q[gperl_sv_copy], q[gperl_sv_free],
>> q[gperl_sv_from_filename], q[gperl_sv_from_gerror]
>> , q[gperl_sv_from_value], q[gperl_sv_get_type],
>> q[gperl_try_convert_enum], q[gperl_try_convert_flag],
>> q[gperl_type_class
>> ], q[gperl_type_from_package], q[gperl_value_from_sv], q[newSVGChar],
>> q[newSVGParamFlags], q[newSVGParamSpec], q[newSVGS
>> ignalFlags], q[newSVGSignalInvocationHint], q[newSVGSignalQuery]],
>> 'IMPORTS' => {  }, 'DL_VARS' => []);"
>> NMAKE : fatal error U1095: expanded command line 'C:\Perl\bin\perl.exe
>> -MExtUtils::Mksymlists  -e "Mksymlists('NAME'= C:
>> \Perl\bin\perl.exe -MExtUtils::Mksymlists  -e
>> "Mksymlists('NAME'=>\"Glib\", 'DLBASE' => 'Glib', 'DL_FUNCS' => {
>> Glib=>[]
>>  }, 'FUNCLIST' => [q[SvGChar], q[SvGParamFlags], q[SvGParamSpec],
>> q[SvGSignalFlags], q[_gperl_call_XS], q[gperl_alloc_te
>> mp], q[gperl_argv_free], q[gperl_argv_new], q[gperl_argv_update],
>> q[gperl_boxed_package_from_type], q[gperl_boxed_type_f
>> rom_package], q[gperl_callback_destroy], q[gperl_callback_invoke],
>> q[gperl_callback_new], q[gperl_closure_new], q[gperl_
>> closure_new_with_marshaller], q[gperl_convert_back_enum],
>> q[gperl_convert_back_enum_pass_unknown], q[gperl_convert_back_
>> flags], q[gperl_convert_enum], q[gperl_convert_flag_one],
>> q[gperl_convert_flags], q[gperl_croak_gerror], q[gperl_default
>> _boxed_wrapper_class], q[gperl_filename_from_sv],
>> q[gperl_format_variable_for_output], q[gperl_fundamental_package_from_
>> type], q[gperl_fundamental_type_from_package],
>> q[gperl_gerror_from_sv], q[gperl_get_boxed_check],
>> q[gperl_get_object], q
>> [gperl_get_object_check], q[gperl_handle_logs_for],
>> q[gperl_install_exception_handler], q[gperl_new_boxed], q[gperl_new_
>> boxed_copy], q[gperl_new_object], q[gperl_object_check_type],
>> q[gperl_object_package_from_type], q[gperl_object_set_no_w
>> arn_unreg_subclass], q[gperl_object_stash_from_type],
>> q[gperl_object_type_from_package], q[gperl_package_from_type], q[g
>> perl_param_spec_package_from_type], q[gperl_prepend_isa],
>> q[gperl_register_boxed], q[gperl_register_error_domain], q[gpe
>> rl_register_fundamental], q[gperl_register_object],
>> q[gperl_register_sink_func], q[gperl_remove_exception_handler], q[gp
>> erl_run_exception_handlers], q[gperl_set_isa],
>> q[gperl_signal_connect], q[gperl_signal_set_marshaller_for],
>> q[gperl_str_
>> eq], q[gperl_str_hash], q[gperl_sv_copy], q[gperl_sv_free],
>> q[gperl_sv_from_filename], q[gperl_sv_from_gerror], q[gperl_
>> sv_from_value], q[gperl_sv_get_type], q[gperl_try_convert_enum],
>> q[gperl_try_convert_flag], q[gperl_type_class], q[gperl
>> _type_from_package], q[gperl_value_from_sv], q[newSVGChar],
>> q[newSVGParamFlags], q[newSVGParamSpec], q[newSVGSignalFlags
>> ], q[newSVGSignalInvocationHint], q[newSVGSignalQuery]], 'IMPORTS' =>
>> {  }, 'DL_VARS' => []);"' too long
>> Stop.
>> On 1/16/06, ale...@gm... <ale...@gm...> wrote:
>>     
>>> 如果你急着使用的话，并装有activeperl 5.8以上版本
>>> 请：
>>> ppm install http://gtk2-perl.sourceforge.net/win32/ppm/Glib.ppd
>>> ppm install http://gtk2-perl.sourceforge.net/win32/ppm/Gtk2-1.100.ppd
>>> 前提是你已经安装了ExtUtils - Depends - 0.205 ，ExtUtils - PkgConfig。
>>>
>>> 如果你还是想自己编译来安装的话，请将出错信息全部发过来，我可以看看。当然，这可能还需要很多其他的信息。
>>>
>>> 在 06-1-16，Roger Zheng<rog...@gm...> 写道：
>>>       
>>>> Hi, alexe
>>>>
>>>>   我在安装Gtk2－perl的时候遇到了一点问题。我安装你写的《Gtk2－perl编程》的安装顺序，安装到Glib的时候，运行nmake
>>>> 以后，报一堆很长的，最后是'IMPORTS'=>{},'DL_VARS'=>[]);'''  too long Stop.
>>>>
>>>> 我第一次是从Gtk2－perl的首页上下的最新的Glib-1.113,出问题。我准备下你说的Glib-1.093,但没有找到连接，就下了一个Glib-1.00.我是在windows
>>>> xp下安装，前两个ExtUtils - Depends - 0.205 ，ExtUtils - PkgConfig -
>>>> 1.07安装都没有问题。
>>>>
>>>> 你能帮忙这是什么问题？怎么解决？或者你能把你自己安装的这几个源文件发给我试试看。谢谢
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards!
>>>>
>>>> Roger Zheng
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> --
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>>> +--------------------------------------------+
>>>
>>>       
>> --
>> Regards!
>>
>> Roger Zheng
>>
>>     
>
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