Re: [Semediawiki-user] [swikig] Paper: Reusing Ontological Background Knowledge in SemanticWikis (comments)

[Uschold, M. F <mic...@bo...>]

Thanks for the pointer.  Very interesting project.

It seems that the Semantic Media Wiki project is using ontologies (&
semantic technology) to build better wikis but are specifically NOT
using wiki technology to build ontologies.

It seems your myOntology project is using wikis to build ontologies, but
you are specifically NOT addressing how to use the ontologies in a
semantic wiki environment.

Does anyone know of any attempts to build build seamless integrated
environments that do both in a virtuous cycle?
* using wiki technology to collaboratively build ontologies =20
* use ontologies and semantic technology to build better wikis

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Subject: Re: [swikig] Paper: Reusing Ontological Background Knowledge in
SemanticWikis (comments)

Dear Michael, all:
What you are describing ist mostly the approach we are taking in the
myOntology project (http://www.myontology.org). The prototype will be
made available to the general public around Sept 1.

Best

Martin

Uschold, Michael F wrote:
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> Denny and Markus,
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> I just read your paper, "Reusing Ontological Background Knowledge in=20
> Semantic Wikis".
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> I have a few comments.
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> You make assumptions that will hold in some usage scenarios: e.g.
> * that the ontology is relatively fixed, so that data can be uploaded=20
> etc
> * collaborative ontology engineering may be best left to separate=20
> ontology editors
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> Yet there are also usage scenarios where you want everything tightly=20
> integrated. Or at least I do!
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> The reason is that there are high costs of keeping the ontology=20
> development and evolution separate from the wiki. Things go out of=20
> synch, or have to be manually kept in synch, which is expensive and=20
> error-prone.  This is analogous to the problem with models and=20
> software requirements getting out of synch with the software.
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> This is the kind of thing I want to do:
> * start building an ontology any which way I like e.g.
>    a.  in my preferred [perhaps collaborative] ontology editor
>    b.  in a suitably enhanced semantic wiki editor
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> * be able to import ontologies and data into the wiki,
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> * be able to enter more information in the wiki using the imported=20
> ontologies
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> * be able to continue to edit and modify the ontology /from the wiki=20
> itself/ for small changes(*)
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> * be able to export the ontology and data from the wiki into my=20
> favorite ontology editor for major revisions
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> * be able to re-import the updated ontology, with some automated=20
> assistance in keeping old versions and making new versions of the=20
> pages and the semantic annotations
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> I may be asking for a lot, and it may not happen next month or next=20
> year, but I think this vision has powerful functionality that would be

> very useful for many situations.
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> (*) yes i agree with you that you may want to limit the people who can

> make ontology changes.
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> Thanks,
> Michael
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