Re: [Semediawiki-user] Extension namespace annotation

[John M. <jmc...@hy...>]

Hey Yury,
The WAT has a login specific to it, for security: it is only visible to
Admins. For this reason, it's difficult to point to a demo platform, also to
mention that the DOCUMENTATION for the WAT (which had numerous images)
unfortunately remains in the purview of DIQA-PM, so far unresponsive to my
request that they release the documentation for the tool so that it may be
installed at a public place such as semantic-mediawiki.org.

Basically, the interface is this. Once an admin has logged in, WAT shows a
version-like panel of what is installed, and reports whether a newer version
is available for each installed extension (and for MW itself). The
administrator may then click a button to upgrade the extension.

Here is where semantic-mediawiki.org fits in. A user may list all extensions
known within one or more repositories associated with the wiki. I'd like to
see smw.org be one of those repositories for not just SMW+ extensions but
open for all MW extensions. But the nature of the repository would be
different in smw.org than what is currently the case for SMW+ extensions. In
SMW+, all versions of extensions are stored in zip files. When an admin
selects an extension to be installed, or upgraded, then WAT unzips the
distro file, and imports pages and edits LocalSettings.php as needed. WAT
also patches the MW or other codebase as directed as well. In the proposed
WAT, gerrit would be accessed rather than zip files (so it's a small
misnomer to call smw.org a "repository" as smw.org would just hold metadata
about extensions).

I know many wiki admins loath this kind of tool, primarily pointing to the
weakness of the security password as predominate in their distrust (though,
it should be noted that FTP access for many wikis is equally vulnerable).
Specifically for this reason, I claim that WAT is suitable chiefly for
either personal or intranet wikis, not so much for extranet wikis. This kind
of configuration -- and a demo of WAT -- can be seen should you download
DIQA's DataWiki from http://sourceforge.net/projects/datawiki/ and install
it locally.

Hope that helps - john


>-----Original Message-----
>From: gan...@gm... [mailto:gan...@gm...]On Behalf Of
>Yury Katkov
>Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 8:58 AM
>To: jmc...@hy...
>Cc: sem...@li...
>Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] Extension namespace annotation
>
>
>I forgot how WAT looks like, can you show any demo, please?
>-----
>Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>
>
>
>On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:41 PM, John McClure
><jmc...@hy...> wrote:
>> Hi there Yuri -
>> I agree! But the WAT seems to be exactly the kind of
>AWESOMENESS we'd like
>> to demo to mediawiki.org -- do you have other ideas for such demo?
>>
>> But let's not wait on someone else doing something we'd like
>them to do, to
>> do our thing which, in this context, is creating useful SMW
>applications
>> that reliably work.
>> best - john
>>
>>