Re: [Semediawiki-user] RDFexport: is it possible making complex RDF document

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Hi,

Yaron noted the main problem with SIO - strange direction of the properties.
I'll try to combine using SIO and Inverse properties, maybe that will help.

And I really should look for another ontologies for biography description.
For example there is an ontology for describing users' CVs [1] where they
have birthPlace property [2]. Sure it's possible to find more ontologies
consist the properties I need.

Thank you for your support!

[1] http://rdfs.org/resume-rdf/
[2] http://rdfs.org/resume-rdf/#term_birthPlace

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 2:54 AM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wi...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yes, Semantic Internal Objects can basically be used to simulate blank
> nodes - the big difference is that, with blank nodes, the property
> points from the page to the blank node (in the example, the property
> is "bio:event"), while in SIO, the property points in the other
> direction - from the internal object to the page. (It's an unexpected
> direction, but it makes querying easier.)
>
> In the case of this specific example, I should note that I'm quite
> surprised that there aren't common properties that define date and
> place of birth - but I don't really know much about ontologies.
>
> -Yaron
>
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Laurent Alquier <la...@al...>
> wrote:
> > Did you look at Semantic Internal Objects ?
> >
> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Internal_Objects
> >
> > That extension allows encoding of complex properties such as your date of
> > birth and also allows RDF export.
> >
> > Maybe Yaron and Markus can comment on the subject when they get a chance.
> >
> > - Laurent
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Yury Katkov <kat...@gm...>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, I see. We do use Import vocabulary to handle foaf:knows
> foaf:homepage
> >> and other simple properties.
> >> However it seemed that using only Import vocabulary it's impossible to
> add
> >> mediate rdf resorces like in biography example.
> >>
> >> Do you see there aren't any "date of birth", "place of birth" properties
> in
> >> common vocabularies.
> >> Unfortunately biographical information doesn't present that way:
> >>
> >> my:Yura date_of_birth "25/12/1987";
> >>         place_of_birth "St.Petersburg" .
> >>
> >> Instead of that they use nodes-mediators such as
> >>
> >> my:Yura bio:event my:YuraBirth .
> >> YuraBirth a               bio:Birth;
> >>               bio:date      "25-12-1987";
> >>               geo:place   "Saint-Petersburg .
> >>
> >> Instead of introducing the new object fometimes blank nodes are used
> (see
> >> the previous letter to Krabina).
> >>
> >> So, we know how to import vocabularies and make things like in the first
> >> example but we don't think how to create such RDF as represented in
> second
> >> example.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Laurent Alquier <la...@al...
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Check out Import Vocabulary :
> >>>
> >>> http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Import_vocabulary
> >>>
> >>> This option from SMW allows you to map known vocabularies and
> namespaces
> >>> tp properties defined in your wiki.
> >>>
> >>> I am not sure about the limitations when it comes to RDF, but I was
> able
> >>> to export foaf:knows and SameAs mappings in the RDF export when I tried
> it
> >>> out.
> >>>
> >>> - Laurent
> >>>
> >>>  On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Yury Katkov <kat...@gm...
> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>  Hello!
> >>>> We're working on an extension that should make possible creation of
> >>>> user's profile via Semantic MediaWiki.
> >>>> Is it possible to generate complex RDF documents using SMW import
> >>>> vocabulary and other SMW features?
> >>>> Here is an example. Let's look at great person description, for
> >>>> example here http://tw.rpi.edu/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/Jie_Bao
> >>>>
> >>>> Here I can see the following FOAF piece:
> >>>> --------example begin------------
> >>>>
> >>>> <swivt:Subject rdf:about="&wiki;Jie_Bao">
> >>>>  <rdfs:label>Jie Bao</rdfs:label>
> >>>>  <foaf:firstName
> >>>> rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string
> >>>> ">Jie</foaf:firstName>
> >>>>  <foaf:homepage rdf:resource="http://baojie.org"/>
> >>>> ... A LOT MORE...
> >>>> </swivt:Subject>
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------example end------------
> >>>>
> >>>> I want to add biography info about Mr. Bao, for example using bio
> >>>> ontology [1] (sorry for not knowing Mr.Bao's birthday)
> >>>>
> >>>> --------example begin------------
> >>>>
> >>>> <swivt:Subject rdf:about="&wiki;Jie_Bao">
> >>>>  <rdfs:label>Jie Bao</rdfs:label>
> >>>>  <foaf:firstName
> >>>> rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string
> >>>> ">Jie</foaf:firstName>
> >>>>  <foaf:homepage rdf:resource="http://baojie.org"/>
> >>>>  <bio:event rdf:nodeID="birth">
> >>>> ... A LOT MORE...
> >>>> </swivt:Subject>
> >>>> <rdf:Description rdf:nodeID="birth">
> >>>>  <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://purl.org/vocab/bio/0.1/Birth"/>
> >>>>  <bio:date rdf:datatype="&xsd:date">1980-01-01<bio:date>
> >>>> </rdf:Description>
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------example end-------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Is it possible to generate such kinds of RDF from SMW now?
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] http://schemapedia.com/schemas/bio
> >>>> --
> >>>> Yury V. Katkov
> >>>> Laboratory of intelligent systems
> >>>> of the Saint-Petersburg National University of Information
> >>>> Technologies, Mechanics and Optics, Russia
> >>>> http://ailab.ifmo.ru
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>> http://www.linfa.net
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Yury V. Katkov
> >> Laboratory of intelligent systems
> >> of the Saint-Petersburg National University of Information Technologies,
> >> Mechanics and Optics, Russia
> >> http://ailab.ifmo.ru
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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-- 
Yury V. Katkov
Laboratory of intelligent systems
of the Saint-Petersburg National University of Information Technologies,
Mechanics and Optics, Russia
http://ailab.ifmo.ru

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