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Re: [Semediawiki-user] [SF] conditional lower form use based upon other form fields?
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From: er0ck <er...@gm...> - 2010-12-06 16:04:11
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wow. show on select looks to be exactly what i want.... at first glance.
i'll look into it. thanks!
i don't suppose it lets you add certain templates to the form depending upon
what is selected?
i keep going back to a conditional select in combination with something like
schematic schemas that would automatically add the inherited pieces of
forms. but in this case "show on select" could be used to determine who the
child is and "select" the correct form for the child below the parent.
as you can tell i'm still trying to absorb all the existing information for
SF
thanks again, yaron
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"The plural of anecdote is not fact."
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 07:44, Yaron Koren <ya...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Well, you can do something like that with "show on select", though if what
> you're talking about is some sort of generic super-form, that doesn't sound
> like a good idea...
>
> By the way, I think the correct expression is "the plural of anecdote is
> not data" - makes more sense, since data is actually plural.
>
> -Yaro
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:28 AM, er0ck <er...@gm...> wrote:
>
>> FormStart is kinda like what i need. it allows you to edit/create a page
>> with a form that is not default for that category.
>>
>> but i think what i need is a page or form that will send us to an edit
>> page using a form depending upon the parent page or form.
>>
>> basically i need a portion of a form to depend upon the previous results
>> of another portion of the form.
>> since a form can have multiple templates, i was hoping we could use
>> conditionals to do this, but i don't see the way right now...
>>
>> either that or pages which will send us to other pages to kinda drill down
>> to the proper form. but i'd need these pages to be added dynamically
>> depending upon what categories and subcategories exist or are added by
>> users.
>>
>> maybe i'm just missing the way one is supposed to do this with smw/SF?
>> Neill Mitchell mentioned something about "dynamic forms" anyone know
>> where the "wishlist" item is on this? is it documented at all? i've
>> started to look into the code, but i'm pretty green at MW, SMW, let alone SF
>> code/concepts
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> ___________________________
>> "The plural of anecdote is not fact."
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 06:37, Yaron Koren <ya...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> It's not a well-documented feature, but if you go to the page
>>> "Special:FormStart", by itself, it provides an interface that might be
>>> reasonably close to what you're talking about.
>>>
>>> -Yaron
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 9:27 AM, er0ck <er...@gm...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> thanks for your reply Patrick.
>>>>
>>>> as i said, that's certainly an option. however there are other cases
>>>> where
>>>> conditional "sub-form" inclusion would still be very useful.
>>>>
>>>> say in our book example we have another category called "genres" which
>>>> is a
>>>> subcategory of "books"
>>>> in form:Book one might have a dropdown for genre.
>>>> based upon what genre one selected one might want the next drop down
>>>> (subGenre maybe?) to have only the correct values suggested for the
>>>> genre
>>>> selected above.
>>>>
>>>> ie, if you select "fiction" out of "fiction, non-fiction" one would want
>>>> the
>>>> next dropbox to suggest only "scifi,drama,etc" and not "biography,
>>>> resource,
>>>> etc"
>>>>
>>>> is this possible?
>>>> ___________________________
>>>> "The plural of anecdote is not fact."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 00:58, Patrick Nagel <ma...@pa...>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> >
>>>> > On 2010-12-03 07:00 UTC er0ck wrote:
>>>> > > My question is very similar. I would like to have a form that is
>>>> the
>>>> > same
>>>> > > no matter what type of page is being added. say our wiki contains
>>>> books,
>>>> > > authors, publishers, bookstores. each has its own class (category,
>>>> > > properties, form(s))
>>>> > > if i have a form for "all" and i go to "Form:All" (presumably as a
>>>> user
>>>> > > from an "add page" link or from a failed search.
>>>> > > can this form use a property of "has category" (or "has pageType",
>>>> > > whatever) where the user would choose the category of page they
>>>> wanted to
>>>> > > add, and then the form, based upon that selection (parser functions
>>>> > > perhaps, {{#ifeq}}) load that category's form?
>>>> > > ie, i want to add a page for a publisher, but i dont' know how to
>>>> get to
>>>> > > form:Publisher (or i haven't seen a link to it). i go to a
>>>> catchall
>>>> > "add
>>>> > > page" link that takes me to "Form:All". i choose category
>>>> "publisher"
>>>> > from
>>>> > > the first (and possibly only) showing property form. it then fills
>>>> out
>>>> > the
>>>> > > rest of the form with form:Publisher (or maybe just takes me to that
>>>> > form?)
>>>> > > Form:All would not have a category, necessarily, but i guess if it
>>>> had
>>>> > to,
>>>> > > it wouldn't be the end of the world. i suppose my question then is
>>>> > mostly
>>>> > > on the conditional, adding forms to forms, or sending us to another
>>>> > form...
>>>> > >
>>>> > > i've gone to several examples that are widely touted in the SMW/SF
>>>> docs
>>>> > > (discourseDB, placeography). these sites all seem to just provide
>>>> links
>>>> > in
>>>> > > the sidebar to "add category1" "add category2" placeography it
>>>> appears
>>>> > has
>>>> > > turned off the standard add page from failed search results. this
>>>> is a
>>>> > > decent solution, if there is no way for a form to send us to another
>>>> > form,
>>>> > > or change the lower forms conditional to the top form...
>>>> > >
>>>> > > at some-point my site may have tens, if not hundreds, of top level
>>>> > > categories. i don't want to provide links to each form separately
>>>> in the
>>>> > > sidebar, nor in the search results page.
>>>> >
>>>> > Why not make a 'Add a new page' page, with links to all the different
>>>> forms
>>>> > for different classes of pages? Does it really need to be a dropdown?
>>>> >
>>>> > You could format that page any way you want, with columns that group
>>>> the
>>>> > classes together that belong together, etc. - that's all not possible
>>>> in
>>>> > one
>>>> > simple dropdown.
>>>> >
>>>> > Patrick.
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