Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Unify relations and attributes? (update)

[Sergey C. <ser...@gm...>]

I'm not sure if I understand what you added to the topic. In any case,
please take a look at: http://ontoworld.org/wiki/N-ary_relations

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Sergey Chernyshev
http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/


On 8/10/07, Eep=B2 <ee...@tn...> wrote:
>
> I know this thread is kind of old but I have some suggestions to
> streamline this a bit. The relationships/attributes/properties
> (whatever) are too wordy. Instead, these are shorter and more
> grammatically correct, shorter, less syllables, faster to type, etc:
>
> has president -> president
> begin of term -> term begin
> end of term -> term end
> location -> place
>
> Also, with the new property, er, property (attribute? option? parameter?)=
,
> will it work like relationships do now with
> [[relationship::name]] where the "::" (double colons) create a link where
> as [[attribute:=3Dname]] doesn't create a link? I ask
> because I need that functionality for both parameters ("relationship" and
> "attribute" in SMW .7) and I hope "property" can do both
> links and non-links as well for the next SMW version.
>
> Last, if "property" can also accept just "prop" that would would make it
> easier to use (and type)--"rel" and "att" could be
> shortened forms of the current parameter names too.
>
>
> MovGP0 wrote on Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:14:47 -0800:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
> > <snip/>
> >
> > I guess the following idea would make things too complicated, but just
> as
> > theoretical question:
> > would a "Type:Relation" be possible to implement?
> >
> > "has president":  [[has Type:=3D[[Type:Wikipage]]; [[Type:Date]];
> > [[Type:Relation]] ]]
> > "end of term":  [[has Type:=3D[[Type:String]]; [[Type:Date]];
> [[Type:Wikipage]];
> > [[Type:Wikipage]] ]]
> >
> > [[has president::John F. Kennedy; 1961; [[end of term:=3Dassassination;=
 22
> > November 1963; Dallas; Lee Harvey Oswald]] ]]
> > [[has president::Richard Nixon; 1969; [[end of term:=3D ; 1972]] ]]
> > [[has president::Richard Nixon; 1972; [[end of term:=3Dresignation; 9
> August
> > 1974;
> > ; Watergate scandal]] ]]
> > [[has president::G.W. Bush; 2001]]
> >
> > Thanks,
> > G=FCnther
>
> I don't think that this is as flexible as the suggestions we made
> already. Note that in the following example we get a much better ontology=
:
>
> =3D BEGIN =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> [[has president::
>    [[Person::John F. Kennedy|John F. Kennedy]]
> started to be president in
>    [[begin of term::
>       [[Year::1961|]]
>    ]]
> and was
>    [[end of term::
>       [[Reason::
>          [[Type::assassination|assassinated]]
> in
>          [[Location::Dallas|]]
> by
>          [[by::Lee Harvey Oswald|]]
> on
>       [[Date:=3D1963-10-22||November 22, 1963]]
>    ]]
> ]]. After Kennedy,
> [[has president::
>    [[Person::Richard Nixon|]]
> started to be president in
>    [[begin of term::
>       [[Year::1969|]]
>    ]]
> till
>    [[end of therm:: [[Year::1969|]
> ]] then the was rejected and started his term again in
> [[has president::
>    [[Person::Richard Nixon]]
>    [[begin of term::
>       [[Year::1969|]]
>    ]]
> but
>    [[end of term::
>       [[Reason::
>          [[Type::resignation|resignated]]
> because of the
>          [[Because::Watergate scandal|]]
> on
>       [[Date:=3D1974-08-09|August 9, 1974]]
>    ]]. Since
> [[has president::
>    [[begin of term::
>       [[Year:2001|]]
>       [[Person::George Walker Bush|G. W. Bush]]
>    ]]
> ]]
> won the election and is therefore the current president.
> =3D END =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> Note that I can mix ordinary text with markup (a <nowiki> or
> <nosemantic> element might be possible too, but then the source becomes
> even harder to read) and there is no need to keep the format - If I want
> to do so I can use Templates, but that comes with a loss of flexibility
> if the template is not well scripted:
>
> {{has president|John F. Kennedy|1961|1963|assassinated}}
>
> Also a vertical bar right before the closing brackets will repeat the
> text that is given as argument. Relations marked with :: and having a
> non-complex value will get interpreted as Link to an Article. Anyway, I
> would take this only as example, because the starts and ends of being
> president might be better placed into the articles of the presidents -
> but this is a very subjective POV.
>
>
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