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Re: [Semediawiki-user] [Semantic Forms] RE: New feature: Google Charts API
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From: Mov GP 0 <mo...@gm...> - 2008-07-08 19:13:19
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, gnuplot supports anti-alias under certain circumstances. The better solution is to use the SVG-Export. The problem with gnuplot is mostly that it is hard to handle and that it is a binary release. ys, MovGP0 - ------ You can download my public PGP-Key here: http://members.aon.at/custos/public_pgp_key.asc KeyID: FE7CADBE Fingerprint: 9B8F 259C 4172 221C B2F8 BE3D C36D CBC2 FE7C ADBE -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: http://getfiregpg.org iEYEARECAAYFAkhzu+0ACgkQw23Lwv58rb58iwCbBAu/iUz+VgWTUYRoU/c8ea4y nrEAoIQE2SmKqn8j14B5npjrJFJa7B/n =yDac -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 2008/7/8 Denny Vrandečić <dv...@ai...>: > Karlsruhe says Hi. :) > > Good point, Yaron. SMW sure should not be dependant on an external > service -- that is why the Google Charts API visualization is switched > off by default. But you are right -- it should actually be an extension > of itself, and removed from the SMW code entirely again. As soon as I > have the time -- or if someone takes it up -- it should be done. > > Regarding 3rd party libraries to replace Google's service: > * JpGraph, unfortunately, is not Open Source > * MovGP0 suggested to take a look at gnuplot, which is extremely > powerful, stable, well maintained, etc. It is just a pity their demo > plots also don't look too nice (maybe there are options for nicer fonts > and anti-aliasing?). And it would be a binary extension -- gnuplot is > written in C (which makes installations in some settings more > complicated), but otherwise it seems workable. > * ploticus seems to be an alternative as well. But it seems to be pretty > similar to gnuplot, so I could not decide between the two (they both > look similarly pretty...) > > Oh, and there was a mistake in the installation description. It should > not be > > include_once('extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_QP_GoogleChart.php'); > > but > > include_once('extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_QueryProcessor.php'); > > It is updated on the wiki > > <http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Googlebar_format> > > > Yaron Koren wrote: >> Brooklyn says hi. :) Let me say that even this simple demonstration of >> charts looks amazing - this really brings up a lot of possibilities. >> However, I think it's a bad idea to include this code directly in SMW. >> The Google Charts service is free, but it's not open source, which means >> that (a) they could start charging for it at any time, and (b) the whole >> project now becomes reliant on this URL staying up. Even if neither of >> those ever become a real issue, there may be companies and organizations >> that have a strict open-source policy for the applications they use, and >> SMW would now violate those. I think this code is much better off >> getting packaged as a "Semantic Google Charts" extension, using the same >> hooking-into-the-ask-query approach that Semantic Google Maps now takes. >> I don't know if I should be the one to do that (I guess we can talk >> about that). But if that happens, it still would be nice to have an >> open-source graphing library directly within SMW - that JpGraph library >> looks like a good one, although the graphs it creates look ugly as sin >> compared to Google's - maybe that can be changed. >> >> -Yaron >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Krabina Bernhard <kr...@kd... >> <mailto:kr...@kd...>> wrote: >> >> >> > Now this may be the fastest granted wished feature ever :) >> >> wow! I'm impressed! I will definitely give it a try. >> >> > I do not expect to have much time to explore this further, >> > even though it would be very cool to choose colours and to >> > add more info, and to use more of the chart types that Google >> > offers. It would be even cooler if someone could find an Open >> > Source library that can create these charts itself (didn't >> > find something when browsing shortly), so that the data does >> > not have to be sent to Google, and so that we can expand it >> > more easily, and make it a proper self contained part of SMW. >> > So if you want to take over development here, feel free to do >> > so! We probably will not clash when doing it (but you may >> > drop a note on the dev list before you do something bigger so >> > that we prevent double work). >> >> The problem is that I'm no PHP developer. So I can add something here or >> there and provide translations, but I have not the skills to take over a >> project. >> >> But I know someone who is doing a great job in taking over other's >> somewhat >> abandoned projects ;-) >> >> [hint] greetings to brooklyn [/hint] >> >> Regarding library, maybe http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/ is worth >> considering? >> >> cheers, >> Bernhard >> >> > Krabina Bernhard wrote: >> > > Dear SMW developers, >> > > >> > > in the German speaking magazin c't I read an interesting article on >> > > the Google Charts API: http://code.google.com/apis/chart/ >> > > >> > > Would't it be nice to see a SemanticGoogleCharts-Extension >> > where Data >> > > of a Semantic Mediawiki can be displayed using the Google API? >> > > >> > > (Or maybe use this one: http://code.google.com/apis/visualization?) >> > > >> > > Come on, PHP-cats show me what you can do ;-) >> > > >> > > cheers, >> > > Bernhard >> > > >> > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > --- >> > > Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! >> > > Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open >> > source project, >> > > along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for >> > chronic lameness >> > > and boredom. 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