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[Refdb-users] Mapping RIS - RISX

[Markus H. <mar...@mh...>]

Couwberghs Tom writes:
 > I can follow your theory here, but Reference Mananger seems to be doing things in its own way. Take a look at these references generated by Reference Manager
[snip]

 > As you can see the "lowest level" title is always TI (or T1), and no distinction is made between straight of the shelf or not. Shouldn't it be easier to always map TI to the work title, A1 to the work authors, T2 to the publication title, ... And so on?
 > 

I can see your point, but my neat plan was to reduce the confusion for
the end user, as Bruce guessed right in his mail. If you follow the
RIS "specification", a BOOK published in a series would require a T1
for the book title and a T3 for the series title (at least that's the
T3 definition). Could you please verify that with your RefMan copy?
This doesn't sound very logical to me.

I intend to use a more rational approach which btw is used by
librarians as well, i.e. the distinction between the analytical,
monographic, and series levels of bibliographic information. This is
what risx.dtd currently does. To further simplify data entry I plan to
design another DTD which contains separate element sets for several
reference types. You would then be able to unambiguously use something
like <booktitle> and <seriestitle> for a book published in a series
and <articletitle> and <journaltitle> for an article in a scientific
journal. The mapping from these more descriptive elements to the risx
elements could then be done by a XSLT script. 

regards,
Markus

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Re: [Refdb-users] Mapping RIS - RISX

[Bruce D'A. <bd...@fa...>]

On Wed, 21 May 2003 15:53:31 +0200, "Couwberghs Tom" <tco...@sc...>
said:
> As you can see the "lowest level" title is always TI (or T1), and no
> distinction is made between straight of the shelf or not. Shouldn't it be
> easier to always map TI to the work title, A1 to the work authors, T2 to
> the publication title, ... And so on?

Depends on your perspective.  My guess is Markus structured risx so that
it can be a bridge to a future -- more ratiional, and richer -- data
model.  BibX currently has the same basic structure as risx, which
probably explains it.  ris and the similar refer really aern't very
consistent.  

I'm not sure what the implications would be if, say, the future data
model was MODS, which strikes me as simply better and more logical. 
There the equivalent to a work in a publication would be represented with
a <relatedItem type="host"> element. A thesis or edited book would simply
not have that element, which strikes me as more sensible.

Bruce


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[Refdb-users] Mapping RIS - RISX

[Couwberghs T. <tco...@sc...>]

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[Refdb-users] Respond/Confidential Matters

[Collins E. <man...@ju...>]

 

Dear Sir=2C 

I will like to solicit your help in a business proposition=2C which is by nature very confidential and a Top Secret=2E 

I know that a transaction of this magnitude will make any one worried and apprehensive but I am assuring you not to worry=2C as all will be well at the end of this endeavor=2E 

I am Mr=2E Collins Emordi and I am the General Manager of the African Development Bank PLC and I and my partners have decided to seek your help in transfer of a huge sum of money requiring maximum confidence =2E 

THE PROPOSITION 

A foreigner=2C Dr=2EEdwards Marples who was an oil merchant and contractor with the Federal Government of Nigeria until his death onboard the ill fated Kenyan Airways bus {A310300}was our customer at the AFRICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK and had a balance of US$32 =2E2million which the bank now expects his next of kin to claim as the beneficiary=2EWe have made valuable efforts to get his people to no avail as he had no known relatives=2Cdue to this development our management and our board of directors are making arrangements for the funds to be declared unclaimed and subsequently paid into the federal government purse and to avert this negative development me and my colleagues have decided to look for a reputable person to act as the next of kin to late Dr=2EMarples so that the funds will be released and paid into your account and this is where you come in=2E 

All documents to aid your claim will be provided by me and my colleagues and for your help you will be getting a percentage of the total sum =2E 


Please be assured that this transaction is risk free and we will need your fax number and phone number for more communication=2E 
Please reply soon=2E 

Collins Emordi 


 

[Refdb-users] Strictly Confidential

[DR J. A. <joh...@zw...>]

DR JOHN ABOH
FEDERAL MINISTRY OF WORKS=09
LAGOS NIGERIA

DEAR SIR

AFTER DUE DELIBERATION WITH MY COLLEAGUES=2C I DECIDED TO FORWARD TO YOU THIS BUSINESS PROPOSAL=2C WE WANT A RELIABLE PERSON WHO COULD ASSIST US TO TRANSFER THE SUM OF TWENTY ONE MILLION=2C FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS =28US$21=2E5M=29 INTO HIS=2FHER ACCOUNT=2E
THIS FUND RESULTED FROM AN OVER-INVOICED CONTRACT AWARDED BY US UNDER THE BUDGET ALLOCATION TO MY MINISTRY AND THE BILL WAS APPROVED FOR PAYMENT BY THE CONCERNED MINISTRIES=2E  THE CONTRACT WAS EXECUTED=2C COMMISSIONED AND THE CONTRACTOR WAS PAID HIS ACTUAL COST OF THE CONTRACT=2E  WE ARE NOW LEFT WITH THE BALANCE OF US$21=2E5 AS THE OVER INVOICED AMOUNT WHICH WE  HAVE DELIBERATELY OVER ESTIMATED FOR OUR OWN USE BUT UNDER THIS PROTOCOL DIVISION=2C CIVIL SERVANTS ARE FORBIDDEN TO OPERATE OR OWN FOREIGN ACCOUNT=2E
THIS IS WHY=2C I CONTACT YOU FOR AN ASSISTANCE=2E  WE HAVE AGREED TO SHARE THE MONEY AS FOLLOWS=3A
1=2E 30% FOR YOU =28ACCOUNT OWNER=29
2=2E 60% FOR US
3=2E 10% FOR TAX=2C AS MAY BE REQUIRED BY YOUR GOVERNMENT=2E
AS YOU MAY WANT TO KNOW AND TO MAKE YOU LESS CURIOUS=2C  I AM THE EXECUTIVE CHAIRMAN OF THE CONTRACT AWARD COMMITTEE OF THE FEDERAL MINISTRY OF WORKS=28F=2EM=2EW=29=2E  THIS TRANSACTION IS VERY MUCH FREE FROM ALL SORT OF RISK HENCE THE BUSINESS WAS CAREFULLY PLANNED BEFORE IT WAS EXECUTED AND WE THE MINISTRY OFFICIALS INVOLVED IN THE DEAL HAVE PUT MANY YEARS IN SERVICES TO OUR MINISTRY=2E  WE HAVE BEEN EXERCISING PATIENCE FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR SO LONG AND TO MOST OF US=2C THIS IS A LIFE TIME OPPORTUNITY  WE CANNOT AFFORD TO MISS=2E
TO GET THIS FUND PAID INTO YOUR ACCOUNT=2C WE HAVE TO PRESENT AN INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS OUTFIT AND CONSEQUENT UPON INDICATION OF YOUR INTEREST TO FULLY ASSIST US IN THIS TRANSACTION=2C YOU ARE ADVISED TO FURNISH US WITH THE  FOLLOWING=2E
1=2E YOUR BANKERS NAME AND ADDRESS
2=2E YOUR BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER AND ROUTINE CODE NUMBER IF ANY
3=2E THE BANK TELEPHONE=2C FAX AND TELEX NUMBERS
4=2E THE NAME OF BENEFICIARY OF THE ACCOUNT
5=2E YOUR PRIVATE TELEPHONE AND FAX NUMBERS FOR EASY COMMUNICATION=2E
THIS INFORMATION WILL ENABLE US SEEK APPROVAL OF THE FUND FROM THE 
CONCERNED QUARTERS WITHIN 4-5 BANKING DAYS AND THE FEDERAL MINISTRY OF WORKS=28F=2EM=2EW=29 PAYMENT INFORMATION DATA WILL BE SENT IMMEDIATELY TO YOU FOR COMPLETION=2E  ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES AND I INVOLVED IN THIS DEAL WILL COME TO YOUR COUNTRY TO ARRANGE FOR OUR OWN SHARE UPON CONFIRMATION  FROM YOU THAT THE MONEY HAS HIT YOUR NOMINATED BANK ACCOUNT=2E  ALL THIS  WILL ONLY TAKE US ABOUT 14 WORKING DAYS TO TRANSFER THIS FUND INTO YOUR  ACCOUNT FROM THE DAY WE RECEIVE THE REQUIREMENTS=2E LET HONESTY AND TRUST BE OUR WATCHWORD THROUGHOUT THIS TRANSACTION=2E  YOUR PROMPT REPLY WILL BE HIGHLY APPRECIATED=2E
BEST REGARDS=2C
 
DR JOHN ABOH

 

[Refdb-users] Strictly Confidential

[DR J. A. <joh...@zw...>]

DR JOHN ABOH
FEDERAL MINISTRY OF WORKS=09
LAGOS NIGERIA

DEAR SIR

AFTER DUE DELIBERATION WITH MY COLLEAGUES=2C I DECIDED TO FORWARD TO YOU THIS BUSINESS PROPOSAL=2C WE WANT A RELIABLE PERSON WHO COULD ASSIST US TO TRANSFER THE SUM OF TWENTY ONE MILLION=2C FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS =28US$21=2E5M=29 INTO HIS=2FHER ACCOUNT=2E
THIS FUND RESULTED FROM AN OVER-INVOICED CONTRACT AWARDED BY US UNDER THE BUDGET ALLOCATION TO MY MINISTRY AND THE BILL WAS APPROVED FOR PAYMENT BY THE CONCERNED MINISTRIES=2E  THE CONTRACT WAS EXECUTED=2C COMMISSIONED AND THE CONTRACTOR WAS PAID HIS ACTUAL COST OF THE CONTRACT=2E  WE ARE NOW LEFT WITH THE BALANCE OF US$21=2E5 AS THE OVER INVOICED AMOUNT WHICH WE  HAVE DELIBERATELY OVER ESTIMATED FOR OUR OWN USE BUT UNDER THIS PROTOCOL DIVISION=2C CIVIL SERVANTS ARE FORBIDDEN TO OPERATE OR OWN FOREIGN ACCOUNT=2E
THIS IS WHY=2C I CONTACT YOU FOR AN ASSISTANCE=2E  WE HAVE AGREED TO SHARE THE MONEY AS FOLLOWS=3A
1=2E 30% FOR YOU =28ACCOUNT OWNER=29
2=2E 60% FOR US
3=2E 10% FOR TAX=2C AS MAY BE REQUIRED BY YOUR GOVERNMENT=2E
AS YOU MAY WANT TO KNOW AND TO MAKE YOU LESS CURIOUS=2C  I AM THE EXECUTIVE CHAIRMAN OF THE CONTRACT AWARD COMMITTEE OF THE FEDERAL MINISTRY OF WORKS=28F=2EM=2EW=29=2E  THIS TRANSACTION IS VERY MUCH FREE FROM ALL SORT OF RISK HENCE THE BUSINESS WAS CAREFULLY PLANNED BEFORE IT WAS EXECUTED AND WE THE MINISTRY OFFICIALS INVOLVED IN THE DEAL HAVE PUT MANY YEARS IN SERVICES TO OUR MINISTRY=2E  WE HAVE BEEN EXERCISING PATIENCE FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR SO LONG AND TO MOST OF US=2C THIS IS A LIFE TIME OPPORTUNITY  WE CANNOT AFFORD TO MISS=2E
TO GET THIS FUND PAID INTO YOUR ACCOUNT=2C WE HAVE TO PRESENT AN INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS OUTFIT AND CONSEQUENT UPON INDICATION OF YOUR INTEREST TO FULLY ASSIST US IN THIS TRANSACTION=2C YOU ARE ADVISED TO FURNISH US WITH THE  FOLLOWING=2E
1=2E YOUR BANKERS NAME AND ADDRESS
2=2E YOUR BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER AND ROUTINE CODE NUMBER IF ANY
3=2E THE BANK TELEPHONE=2C FAX AND TELEX NUMBERS
4=2E THE NAME OF BENEFICIARY OF THE ACCOUNT
5=2E YOUR PRIVATE TELEPHONE AND FAX NUMBERS FOR EASY COMMUNICATION=2E
THIS INFORMATION WILL ENABLE US SEEK APPROVAL OF THE FUND FROM THE 
CONCERNED QUARTERS WITHIN 4-5 BANKING DAYS AND THE FEDERAL MINISTRY OF WORKS=28F=2EM=2EW=29 PAYMENT INFORMATION DATA WILL BE SENT IMMEDIATELY TO YOU FOR COMPLETION=2E  ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES AND I INVOLVED IN THIS DEAL WILL COME TO YOUR COUNTRY TO ARRANGE FOR OUR OWN SHARE UPON CONFIRMATION  FROM YOU THAT THE MONEY HAS HIT YOUR NOMINATED BANK ACCOUNT=2E  ALL THIS  WILL ONLY TAKE US ABOUT 14 WORKING DAYS TO TRANSFER THIS FUND INTO YOUR  ACCOUNT FROM THE DAY WE RECEIVE THE REQUIREMENTS=2E LET HONESTY AND TRUST BE OUR WATCHWORD THROUGHOUT THIS TRANSACTION=2E  YOUR PROMPT REPLY WILL BE HIGHLY APPRECIATED=2E
BEST REGARDS=2C
 
DR JOHN ABOH

 

[Refdb-users] Strictly Confidential

[DR J. A. <joh...@zw...>]

DR JOHN ABOH
FEDERAL MINISTRY OF WORKS=09
LAGOS NIGERIA

DEAR SIR

AFTER DUE DELIBERATION WITH MY COLLEAGUES=2C I DECIDED TO FORWARD TO YOU THIS BUSINESS PROPOSAL=2C WE WANT A RELIABLE PERSON WHO COULD ASSIST US TO TRANSFER THE SUM OF TWENTY ONE MILLION=2C FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS =28US$21=2E5M=29 INTO HIS=2FHER ACCOUNT=2E
THIS FUND RESULTED FROM AN OVER-INVOICED CONTRACT AWARDED BY US UNDER THE BUDGET ALLOCATION TO MY MINISTRY AND THE BILL WAS APPROVED FOR PAYMENT BY THE CONCERNED MINISTRIES=2E  THE CONTRACT WAS EXECUTED=2C COMMISSIONED AND THE CONTRACTOR WAS PAID HIS ACTUAL COST OF THE CONTRACT=2E  WE ARE NOW LEFT WITH THE BALANCE OF US$21=2E5 AS THE OVER INVOICED AMOUNT WHICH WE  HAVE DELIBERATELY OVER ESTIMATED FOR OUR OWN USE BUT UNDER THIS PROTOCOL DIVISION=2C CIVIL SERVANTS ARE FORBIDDEN TO OPERATE OR OWN FOREIGN ACCOUNT=2E
THIS IS WHY=2C I CONTACT YOU FOR AN ASSISTANCE=2E  WE HAVE AGREED TO SHARE THE MONEY AS FOLLOWS=3A
1=2E 30% FOR YOU =28ACCOUNT OWNER=29
2=2E 60% FOR US
3=2E 10% FOR TAX=2C AS MAY BE REQUIRED BY YOUR GOVERNMENT=2E
AS YOU MAY WANT TO KNOW AND TO MAKE YOU LESS CURIOUS=2C  I AM THE EXECUTIVE CHAIRMAN OF THE CONTRACT AWARD COMMITTEE OF THE FEDERAL MINISTRY OF WORKS=28F=2EM=2EW=29=2E  THIS TRANSACTION IS VERY MUCH FREE FROM ALL SORT OF RISK HENCE THE BUSINESS WAS CAREFULLY PLANNED BEFORE IT WAS EXECUTED AND WE THE MINISTRY OFFICIALS INVOLVED IN THE DEAL HAVE PUT MANY YEARS IN SERVICES TO OUR MINISTRY=2E  WE HAVE BEEN EXERCISING PATIENCE FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR SO LONG AND TO MOST OF US=2C THIS IS A LIFE TIME OPPORTUNITY  WE CANNOT AFFORD TO MISS=2E
TO GET THIS FUND PAID INTO YOUR ACCOUNT=2C WE HAVE TO PRESENT AN INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS OUTFIT AND CONSEQUENT UPON INDICATION OF YOUR INTEREST TO FULLY ASSIST US IN THIS TRANSACTION=2C YOU ARE ADVISED TO FURNISH US WITH THE  FOLLOWING=2E
1=2E YOUR BANKERS NAME AND ADDRESS
2=2E YOUR BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER AND ROUTINE CODE NUMBER IF ANY
3=2E THE BANK TELEPHONE=2C FAX AND TELEX NUMBERS
4=2E THE NAME OF BENEFICIARY OF THE ACCOUNT
5=2E YOUR PRIVATE TELEPHONE AND FAX NUMBERS FOR EASY COMMUNICATION=2E
THIS INFORMATION WILL ENABLE US SEEK APPROVAL OF THE FUND FROM THE 
CONCERNED QUARTERS WITHIN 4-5 BANKING DAYS AND THE FEDERAL MINISTRY OF WORKS=28F=2EM=2EW=29 PAYMENT INFORMATION DATA WILL BE SENT IMMEDIATELY TO YOU FOR COMPLETION=2E  ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES AND I INVOLVED IN THIS DEAL WILL COME TO YOUR COUNTRY TO ARRANGE FOR OUR OWN SHARE UPON CONFIRMATION  FROM YOU THAT THE MONEY HAS HIT YOUR NOMINATED BANK ACCOUNT=2E  ALL THIS  WILL ONLY TAKE US ABOUT 14 WORKING DAYS TO TRANSFER THIS FUND INTO YOUR  ACCOUNT FROM THE DAY WE RECEIVE THE REQUIREMENTS=2E LET HONESTY AND TRUST BE OUR WATCHWORD THROUGHOUT THIS TRANSACTION=2E  YOUR PROMPT REPLY WILL BE HIGHLY APPRECIATED=2E
BEST REGARDS=2C
 
DR JOHN ABOH

 

[Refdb-users] Strictly Confidential

[DR J. A. <joh...@zw...>]

DR JOHN ABOH
FEDERAL MINISTRY OF WORKS=09
LAGOS NIGERIA

DEAR SIR

AFTER DUE DELIBERATION WITH MY COLLEAGUES=2C I DECIDED TO FORWARD TO YOU THIS BUSINESS PROPOSAL=2C WE WANT A RELIABLE PERSON WHO COULD ASSIST US TO TRANSFER THE SUM OF TWENTY ONE MILLION=2C FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS =28US$21=2E5M=29 INTO HIS=2FHER ACCOUNT=2E
THIS FUND RESULTED FROM AN OVER-INVOICED CONTRACT AWARDED BY US UNDER THE BUDGET ALLOCATION TO MY MINISTRY AND THE BILL WAS APPROVED FOR PAYMENT BY THE CONCERNED MINISTRIES=2E  THE CONTRACT WAS EXECUTED=2C COMMISSIONED AND THE CONTRACTOR WAS PAID HIS ACTUAL COST OF THE CONTRACT=2E  WE ARE NOW LEFT WITH THE BALANCE OF US$21=2E5 AS THE OVER INVOICED AMOUNT WHICH WE  HAVE DELIBERATELY OVER ESTIMATED FOR OUR OWN USE BUT UNDER THIS PROTOCOL DIVISION=2C CIVIL SERVANTS ARE FORBIDDEN TO OPERATE OR OWN FOREIGN ACCOUNT=2E
THIS IS WHY=2C I CONTACT YOU FOR AN ASSISTANCE=2E  WE HAVE AGREED TO SHARE THE MONEY AS FOLLOWS=3A
1=2E 30% FOR YOU =28ACCOUNT OWNER=29
2=2E 60% FOR US
3=2E 10% FOR TAX=2C AS MAY BE REQUIRED BY YOUR GOVERNMENT=2E
AS YOU MAY WANT TO KNOW AND TO MAKE YOU LESS CURIOUS=2C  I AM THE EXECUTIVE CHAIRMAN OF THE CONTRACT AWARD COMMITTEE OF THE FEDERAL MINISTRY OF WORKS=28F=2EM=2EW=29=2E  THIS TRANSACTION IS VERY MUCH FREE FROM ALL SORT OF RISK HENCE THE BUSINESS WAS CAREFULLY PLANNED BEFORE IT WAS EXECUTED AND WE THE MINISTRY OFFICIALS INVOLVED IN THE DEAL HAVE PUT MANY YEARS IN SERVICES TO OUR MINISTRY=2E  WE HAVE BEEN EXERCISING PATIENCE FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR SO LONG AND TO MOST OF US=2C THIS IS A LIFE TIME OPPORTUNITY  WE CANNOT AFFORD TO MISS=2E
TO GET THIS FUND PAID INTO YOUR ACCOUNT=2C WE HAVE TO PRESENT AN INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS OUTFIT AND CONSEQUENT UPON INDICATION OF YOUR INTEREST TO FULLY ASSIST US IN THIS TRANSACTION=2C YOU ARE ADVISED TO FURNISH US WITH THE  FOLLOWING=2E
1=2E YOUR BANKERS NAME AND ADDRESS
2=2E YOUR BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER AND ROUTINE CODE NUMBER IF ANY
3=2E THE BANK TELEPHONE=2C FAX AND TELEX NUMBERS
4=2E THE NAME OF BENEFICIARY OF THE ACCOUNT
5=2E YOUR PRIVATE TELEPHONE AND FAX NUMBERS FOR EASY COMMUNICATION=2E
THIS INFORMATION WILL ENABLE US SEEK APPROVAL OF THE FUND FROM THE 
CONCERNED QUARTERS WITHIN 4-5 BANKING DAYS AND THE FEDERAL MINISTRY OF WORKS=28F=2EM=2EW=29 PAYMENT INFORMATION DATA WILL BE SENT IMMEDIATELY TO YOU FOR COMPLETION=2E  ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES AND I INVOLVED IN THIS DEAL WILL COME TO YOUR COUNTRY TO ARRANGE FOR OUR OWN SHARE UPON CONFIRMATION  FROM YOU THAT THE MONEY HAS HIT YOUR NOMINATED BANK ACCOUNT=2E  ALL THIS  WILL ONLY TAKE US ABOUT 14 WORKING DAYS TO TRANSFER THIS FUND INTO YOUR  ACCOUNT FROM THE DAY WE RECEIVE THE REQUIREMENTS=2E LET HONESTY AND TRUST BE OUR WATCHWORD THROUGHOUT THIS TRANSACTION=2E  YOUR PROMPT REPLY WILL BE HIGHLY APPRECIATED=2E
BEST REGARDS=2C
 
DR JOHN ABOH

 

Re: [Refdb-users] please do not send HTML emails on the list

[Kirk L. <kl...@wt...>]

Markus Hoenicka wrote:
 > Hi Kirk,
 >
 > I'd be happy to follow your suggestions, but I can't find an
 > appropriate section in my administrative interface. All I see is:

Markus,

On refdb postings, the X- header is:

X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net

On my list it is:

X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2

According to the Mailman NEWS file, content filtering was added as of 
release 2.1 beta 2 (05-May-2002).

So you're right: you can't do it. <sigh> Maybe sourceforge will upgrade 
this year....

Best wishes,

Kirk
-- 
Theorie ist, wenn man alles weiss und nichts klappt.
Praxis ist, wenn alles klappt und keiner weiss warum.
Bei uns sind Theorie und Praxis vereint:
nichts klappt und keiner weiss warum!

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[Markus H. <mar...@mh...>]

Hi Kirk,

I'd be happy to follow your suggestions, but I can't find an
appropriate section in my administrative interface. All I see is:

    *  General Options
    * Membership Management
    * Privacy Options
    * Regular-member (non-digest) Options
    * Digest-member Options
    * Bounce Options
    * Archival Options
    * Mail-News and News-Mail gateways
    * Auto-responder

    * Tend to pending administrative requests
    * Go to the general list information page
    * Edit the HTML for the public list pages
    * Logout 

I'm afraid for the time being people will have to fiddle with their
mail clients to avoid HTML postings.

regards,
Markus

Kirk Lowery writes:
 > In the list administrator's web interface, there is a section on 
 > "Content Filtering". You can set the option for conversion of all 
 > text/html to text/plain MIME messages, and also set it for removal of 
 > all attachments. Put:
 > 
 > multipart/mixed
 > multipart/alternative
 > text/plain
 > 
 > in the "Remove message attachments that don't have a matching content 
 > type." box.
 > 
 > This means list members don't have to know or worry about their email 
 > client's settings. And worms don't get posted to the list, either. It 
 > also has the advantage of cutting down the size of digests and there 
 > is never a problem with confusing the digest or software that handles it.
 > 
 > Markus ought to have been given administrator privileges for 
 > refdb-users by sourceforge and allowed to make these changes....
 > 
 > Kirk

-- 
Markus Hoenicka
mar...@ca...
(Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka")
http://www.mhoenicka.de

[Refdb-users] Sorry again

[Markus H. <mar...@mh...>]

Couwberghs Tom writes:
 > Mail #1:
 > 
 > Markus,
 >  
 > I noticed that when exporting Books to risx, the work title and authors
 > are not being exported. Could you fix this?
 > 

This is odd. I use the following example book:


TY  - BOOK
AU  - Miller,A.
AU  - Myers,B.
BT  - My first book about dinosaurs
SN  - 1-56592-580-7
PB  - O'Reilly
CY  - Sebastopol
PY  - 1999
T3  - My first book series
A3  - Smith,K.
N1  - Not bad, after all
N2  - Dinosaurs were big animals that ate a lot
KW  - dinosaurs
KW  - evolution
KW  - animals
ER  - 

and get the following output:

<entry type="BOOK" id="37" citekey="MILLER1999A"><publication><title>My first bo
ok about dinosaurs</title>
<author><lastname>Miller</lastname>
<firstname>A</firstname>
</author>
<author><lastname>Myers</lastname>
<firstname>B</firstname>
</author>
<pubinfo><pubdate type="primary"><date><year>1999</year>
</date>
</pubdate>
<city>Sebastopol</city>
<publisher>O'Reilly</publisher>
<serial>1-56592-580-7</serial>
</pubinfo>
</publication>
<set><title>My first book series</title>
<author><lastname>Smith</lastname>
<firstname>K</firstname>
</author>
</set>
<libinfo user="markus"><notes>Not bad, after all</notes>
<reprint status="NOTINFILE"/></libinfo>
<contents><abstract>Dinosaurs were big animals that ate a lot</abstract>
<keyword>dinosaurs</keyword>
<keyword>evolution</keyword>
<keyword>animals</keyword>
</contents>
</entry>

Please note two things:

1) I've changed risx.dtd slightly to simplify writing the parser
handlers for the risx import. The id, citekey, and user elements were
changed to attributes.

2) A book is exported as a publication, not a work. This follows the
definition that the publication is what you take from the library
shelf. In contrast, a book chapter would have a work element (the
chapter) as well as a publication element (the book).

 > Mail #2
 > 
 > Hi again,
 >  
 > some things go wrong when exporting a thesis to risx
 >  
 > Example:
 >  
 > TY - THES
 > AU - Couwberghs,T.X.
 > TI - Opzetten van een gecentraliseerd referentiesysteem met RefDB
 > T2 - Eindwerken KHK 2002-2003
 > PB - KHK
 > CY - Geel
 > Y1 - 2003
 > KW - RefDB
 > KW - Linux
 > KW - eZPublish
 > KW - CMS
 > SN - 000000000000000
 > N2 - blablalblablablablblalal
 > ER - 
 > returns
 > <!--<?xml version="1.0"?><!DOCTYPE ris PUBLIC "-//Markus Hoenicka//DTD
 > Ris//EN" "http://refdb.sourceforge.net/dtd/risx.dtd">--><ris><entry
 > type="THES"><id>57</id><citekey>COUWBERGHS2003A</citekey><publication><t
 > itle>Opzetten van een gecentraliseerd referentiesysteem met
 > RefDB</title><author><lastname>Couwberghs</lastname><firstname>T</firstn
 > ame><middlename>X</middlename></author><pubinfo><pubdate
 > type="primary"><date><year>2003</year></date></pubdate><city>Geel</city>
 > <publisher>KHK</publisher><serial>000000000000000</serial></pubinfo></pu
 > blication><libinfo><user>tom</user><reprint
 > type="NOTINFILE"/></libinfo><contents><abstract>blablalblablablablblalal
 > </abstract><keyword>CMS</keyword><keyword>eZPublish</keyword><keyword>Li
 > nux</keyword><keyword>RefDB</keyword></contents></entry></ris>
 > As you can see the T2-field is not mapped to the RISX output. Also the
 > publication title and author should be in fact work title and author
 > Could you fix this?

Again, if you look at it using the librarian's distinction between the
analytical, monographic, and serial level of bibliographic
information, a thesis (which is sort of a book that you can take in
your hand as a whole) should be exported as a publication, not a
work. What does T2 encode in your case? What should it be mapped to?

 > 
 > Mail #3:
 > 
 > Hi Markus,
 >  
 > the same remark counts also for patents
 > 

Would you have an example patent handy? I'm currently collecting
examples of the "odd" reference types that I personally never come
across. How are patents published anyway? Frankly I don't know, but I'd
like to know in order to fix the output if necessary.

regards,
Markus

-- 
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Re: [Refdb-users] please do not send HTML emails on the list

[Kirk L. <kl...@wt...>]

Mar...@en... wrote:
> (it's all in the subject)
> 
> 
> 1) the extra volume is seldom justified
> 2) the digest mode gets completely screwed up by HTML, as you can see
>    below (I have seen other digest modes handling this problem
>    better...)
> 
> 
> Thanks a lot in advance !
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Marc.

I moderate another list which uses the same list-serve software as 
sourceforge: Mailman.

In the list administrator's web interface, there is a section on 
"Content Filtering". You can set the option for conversion of all 
text/html to text/plain MIME messages, and also set it for removal of 
all attachments. Put:

multipart/mixed
multipart/alternative
text/plain

in the "Remove message attachments that don't have a matching content 
type." box.

This means list members don't have to know or worry about their email 
client's settings. And worms don't get posted to the list, either. It 
also has the advantage of cutting down the size of digests and there 
is never a problem with confusing the digest or software that handles it.

Markus ought to have been given administrator privileges for 
refdb-users by sourceforge and allowed to make these changes....

Kirk
--
Theorie ist, wenn man alles weiss und nichts klappt.
Praxis ist, wenn alles klappt und keiner weiss warum.
Bei uns sind Theorie und Praxis vereint:
nichts klappt und keiner weiss warum!

[Refdb-users] Sorry again

[Couwberghs T. <tco...@sc...>]

Hi all,

I'm having a bad day, so it seems. The last mail was already send when I
hadn 't finished typing, sorry again.

Anyway here are my previous mails in text format

Mail #1:

Markus,
=20
I noticed that when exporting Books to risx, the work title and authors
are not being exported. Could you fix this?

Mail #2

Hi again,
=20
some things go wrong when exporting a thesis to risx
=20
Example:
=20
TY - THES
AU - Couwberghs,T.X.
TI - Opzetten van een gecentraliseerd referentiesysteem met RefDB
T2 - Eindwerken KHK 2002-2003
PB - KHK
CY - Geel
Y1 - 2003
KW - RefDB
KW - Linux
KW - eZPublish
KW - CMS
SN - 000000000000000
N2 - blablalblablablablblalal
ER -=20
returns
<!--<?xml version=3D"1.0"?><!DOCTYPE ris PUBLIC "-//Markus Hoenicka//DTD
Ris//EN" "http://refdb.sourceforge.net/dtd/risx.dtd">--><ris><entry
type=3D"THES"><id>57</id><citekey>COUWBERGHS2003A</citekey><publication><=
t
itle>Opzetten van een gecentraliseerd referentiesysteem met
RefDB</title><author><lastname>Couwberghs</lastname><firstname>T</firstn
ame><middlename>X</middlename></author><pubinfo><pubdate
type=3D"primary"><date><year>2003</year></date></pubdate><city>Geel</city=
>
<publisher>KHK</publisher><serial>000000000000000</serial></pubinfo></pu
blication><libinfo><user>tom</user><reprint
type=3D"NOTINFILE"/></libinfo><contents><abstract>blablalblablablablblala=
l
</abstract><keyword>CMS</keyword><keyword>eZPublish</keyword><keyword>Li
nux</keyword><keyword>RefDB</keyword></contents></entry></ris>
As you can see the T2-field is not mapped to the RISX output. Also the
publication title and author should be in fact work title and author
Could you fix this?
Thanks in advance,
Tom

Mail #3:

Hi Markus,
=20
the same remark counts also for patents

--

Again, sorry to you all. I'm glad it's almost weekend :)

Greetz Tom

[Refdb-users] Sorry for the HTML mail

[Couwberghs T. <tco...@sc...>]

Hi guys,

I'm sorry I send an HTML-mail to the mailing list, it slipped my mind.
So let me tell you my story again.

I'm in the process of exporting references to risx and I've encountered
some problems which I would like Markus to fix.


Problems:

some things go wrong when exporting a thesis, patents (maybe other
types) to risx
=20
Example:
=20
TY - THES
AU - Couwberghs,T.X.
TI - Opzetten van een gecentraliseerd referentiesysteem met RefDB
T2 - Eindwerken KHK 2002-2003
PB - KHK
CY - Geel
Y1 - 2003
KW - RefDB
KW - Linux
KW - eZPublish
KW - CMS
SN - 000000000000000
N2 - blablalblablablablblalal
ER -=20
Returns

<!--<?xml version=3D"1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE ris PUBLIC "-//Markus Hoenicka//DTD Ris//EN"
"http://refdb.sourceforge.net/dtd/risx.dtd">--><ris><entry
type=3D"THES"><id>57</id><citekey>COUWBERGHS2003A</citekey><publication><=
t
itle>Opzetten van een gecentraliseerd referentiesysteem met
RefDB</title><author><lastname>Couwberghs</lastname><firstname>T</firstn
ame><middlename>X</middlename></author><pubinfo><pubdate
type=3D"primary"><date><year>2003</year></date></pubdate><city>Geel</city=
>
<publisher>KHK</publisher><serial>000000000000000</serial></pubinfo></pu
blication><libinfo><user>tom</user><reprint
type=3D"NOTINFILE"/></libinfo><contents><abstract>blablalblablablablblala=
l
</abstract><keyword>CMS</keyword><keyword>eZPublish</keyword><keyword>Li
nux</keyword><keyword>RefDB</keyword></contents></entry></ris>
As you can see the T2-field is not mapped to the RISX output. Also the
publication title and author should be in fact work title and author
Could you fix this?
Thanks in advance,
Tom

[Refdb-users] please do not send HTML emails on the list

[<Mar...@en...>]

(it's all in the subject)


1) the extra volume is seldom justified
2) the digest mode gets completely screwed up by HTML, as you can see
   below (I have seen other digest modes handling this problem
   better...)


Thanks a lot in advance=A0!

Cheers,

Marc.



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[Refdb-users] RISX export trouble

[Markus H. <mar...@mh...>]

Hi Tom,

I noticed this problem yesterday but I was too tired to fix it :-o
I've checked in a fixed version a couple of minutes ago.

regards,
Markus


Couwberghs Tom writes:
 > Hi all,
 >  
 > I encountered another problem during the RISX export. When a publication
 > date is mapped to the pubdate tag, this isn't done correctly according
 > to the RIS-format. This happens with PY and Y2 -fields.
 >  
 > The problem: PY  - 1995///Spring is mapped to
 > <pubdate>
 >     <date>
 >             <year>1995</year>
 >     </date>
 >     <otherinfo>///Spring</otherinfo>
 > </pubdate>
 >  
 > This should be of course without the slashes, as you all know these
 > slashes are just delimiters for the date fields year/month/day/otherinfo
 >  
 > Could you fix this?
 >  
 > Thanks in advance,
 >  
 > Tom Couwberghs
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[Refdb-users] Problems exporting RISX

[Markus H. <mar...@mh...>]

Hi Tom,

my fault, as usual. Please update your CVS version, I've just checked
in a fix. Let me know if anything else goes wrong.

regards,
Markus

Couwberghs Tom writes:
 > Hi all,
 >  
 > I'm running into some problems regarding the RisX export. When I try to
 > export a reference of the type 'conference proceeding (TY -  CONF), the
 > filter doesn't seem to export the publication section. Could somebody
 > figure this out?
 >  
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[Refdb-users] Convergence (MODS, BibX, etc.)

[Bruce D'A. <bd...@fa...>]

I sent this to the BibX list yesterday, which is an interesting post on 
a library-oriented site about MODS, Pyblio, BibX, etc., and on the 
convergence of library data systems and free -- end-user oriented -- 
software:

	http://usrlib.info/story/2003/4/16/73130/6689

I've been poking around on this subject, and it's true that there is a 
whole world out there tackling open source bibliographic storage that 
most of us are completely unaware of.  Koha (mentioned in the above 
article) is one, but here's another one more directly related to RefDB 
in particular:

	http://dspace.org/index.html

Called dspace, it is open source software (using PostgreSQL as its data 
storage engine) whose goal is to catalog the research products of 
scholars (in this case at MIT): everything from articles and books, to 
lectures notes and so forth.  It provides both an interface for data 
entry, and to search and retrieve these (generally) electronic records. 
  It uses Dublin Core and also -- it seems -- METS (both of which have 
clear connections to MODS) to store metadata.

This has me thinking that those of us interested in the implications of 
XML and such to fill the needs traditionally filled by Endnote and 
BibTeX need to get really serious about understanding and interacting 
with this larger universe.

- Why are the Pybliographer people determined to create a completely 
new data model?

- Does it make sense for those of us working on BibX to go with MODS 
instead, and contribute what we can to improving it?  In the coming 
weeks, for example, we can expect to see and update of the Schema that 
adds structures that looks similar to the <partdesc> stuff in Taco's 
DTD.

- Bibulus?  It has the same goals as Taco has for mbib v2, but has its 
own -- rather different -- data model.  Why?

- Does it make sense for RefDB to decouple the formatting logic from 
the underlying storage so that other projects (say dspace) could 
implement some of its features (and vice versa)?

-  If yes, is it enough to create a v2 citestylex DTD (and maybe 
Schema) that can format MODS records?  Should we look for help from 
some of these library-oriented efforts to create and promote these 
sorts of solutions?

It seems to me XML and open source radically changes the possibilities 
for this stuff, and we need to exploit these opportunities, to think in 
far bigger terms and to actively collaborate with communities that we 
have not in the past.

So what does this mean?

I remain convinced that creating common data and formatting standards 
will facilitate this convergence, and it seems to me MODS is the only 
viable option for the first.  Let's get serious about offering the MODS 
community constructive feedback on what they need to add on the one 
hand, and figure out how to adopt citestylx to format these records.

Bruce

Re: [Refdb-users] plans, and citation annotations

[Bruce D'A. <bd...@fa...>]

On Saturday, May 3, 2003, at 02:47  PM, Markus Hoenicka wrote:

> I'd rather leave this for 0.9.4.

OK.

> In addition, I plan to put together a Cygwin binary
> starter kit using SQLite (which needs to be ported for this to
> work). This will keep me sufficiently busy ;-)

Yes, indeed.  Good idea on the binary installer, BTW (even if I'm not 
on Windows!).

Bruce

[Refdb-users] plans, and citation annotations

[Markus H. <mar...@mh...>]

Hi Bruce,

I'd rather leave this for 0.9.4. Releases should be somehow
manageable, and 0.9.3-pre3 already has lots of changes. I want to get
the risx import done and then finalize the release. I've also spent a
week or so to set up a test box running FreeBSD, Debian Linux, NetBSD,
and Windows NT/Cygwin. I'll have to go through the installation
instructions for these platforms again to make sure everything works
as advertised. In addition, I plan to put together a Cygwin binary
starter kit using SQLite (which needs to be ported for this to
work). This will keep me sufficiently busy ;-)

regards,
Markus

Bruce D'Arcus writes:
 > And while we're at it, where does the citation annotation thing (page 
 > numbers, etc.) fit in your release schedule?  0.9.4?  Or might you slip 
 > it in for 0.9.3?
 > 

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[Refdb-users] plans, and citation annotations

[Bruce D'A. <bd...@fa...>]

On Wednesday, April 30, 2003, at 01:22  PM, Markus Hoenicka wrote:

> I'm not too optimistic that 0.9.3 will be out anytime soon. This is an
> overview of what I intend to get fixed for the next release:

And while we're at it, where does the citation annotation thing (page 
numbers, etc.) fit in your release schedule?  0.9.4?  Or might you slip 
it in for 0.9.3?

Bruce

[Refdb-users] ANN: RefDB-0.9.3-pre3 available

[Markus H. <mar...@mh...>]

Markus Hoenicka mistyped:
 > http://refdb.sourceforge/net/pre/refdb-0.9.3-pre3.tar.gz
 > http://refdb.sourceforge/net/pre/RefDB-perlmod-0.3_pre1.tar.gz
 > 

Not hard to guess, but still worth a correction:

http://refdb.sourceforge.net/pre/refdb-0.9.3-pre3.tar.gz
http://refdb.sourceforge.net/pre/RefDB-perlmod-0.3_pre1.tar.gz

regards,
Markus

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