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From: Phillip S. <ps...@cf...> - 2001-10-21 23:52:19
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I got everything needed for a gditest run onto a compressed bootable floppy and tested it in several machines today, and it ran on all of them, but hangs drawing the initial background. The first two lines from 0,0 to 640, 480 and from 0,0 to 2,480 are drawn, and then the kernel freezes up - the caps lock toggle doesn't work. I've got a little clean up work to do on the ramdisk driver, then I'll wait until gditest works correctly before posting a downloadable test floppy image for people to check out on the web site. ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: Steven E. <Ste...@kn...> - 2001-10-21 19:22:40
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My mistake, I didnt read your email and though you were Brian P. -----Original Message----- From: Brian G. To: ros...@re... Sent: 10/19/01 5:12 PM Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: RE: Re: RE: [ros-applications] Do not think about a shell yet! No I am not the one in charge of applications, Jason Filby is in charge of ReactOS (I think) as a whole. I reccommend working slightly lower then application level. It might not be as hard as you think. An example would be the GDI, sure the hardware portion would be difficult, but the functions like FloodFill would be easy to implement. More experienced developers please correct me if I am wrong, Brian G. --- Steven Edwards <Ste...@kn...> wrote: > Its alright, I know what you mean. Your in charge of apps where > should we > focus? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian G. [mailto:bm...@ya...] > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:57 PM > To: ros...@re... > Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: RE: [ros-applications] Do not think about a > shell yet! > > > Sorry, if I sounded offensive. I was just concerned that people do > not > understand the state of ReactOS (Which I myself, may be wrong about). > > --- Steven Edwards <Ste...@kn...> wrote: > > Hey if they write a shell that is currently compatable with > NT/2K/XP > > whats > > the problem? I'm working on fixing wines notepad for ReactOS. > > > > I mean dont get me worng I'm know other stuff needs fixing. Stuff > > that > > REALLY needs work. Drivers, GDI, Network Stack, Common DLLs, > > Filesystems, > > Drivers Again =P And the Shell is really low on the list, but I > cant > > do much > > of the above. But if I can help work on the explorer replacement > then > > I'm > > going to try and do it. If not I'm still going to be doing > > application and > > driver testing or documentation. If no one wants that then I wont > be > > around. > > > > Steven > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian G. > > To: ros...@re... > > Sent: 10/18/01 5:13 PM > > Subject: [ros-applications] Do not think about a shell yet! > > > > 2 things: > > > > 1). More of the lower level needs to be finished! Do not think > about > > a > > shell just yet. > > 2). MUST BE BINARY COMPATIBLE WITH WINNT! > > > > Correct me if I am wrong, > > Brian G. > > > > P.S. My apologies for posting to 2 lists, but I am hoping to move > > this > > discussion where I think it belongs (the applications list) > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > ==================================================== > > = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = > > = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = > > ==================================================== > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com > > ==================================================== > = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = > = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = > ==================================================== > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: Phillip S. <ps...@cf...> - 2001-10-21 15:52:16
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Just ask Rex to create your CVS account, and start committing. At 03:47 PM 10/21/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Phillip Susi wrote: > > > > What would be up to ROS group? > > > > At 03:06 PM 10/21/2001 +0000, you wrote: > > >Hi, > > >Yes, I guess. I'm already part of the FreeDOS group on SF. It would > > >be up to ROS group. > > >Thanks, > > >James >Hi. >OH, I thought the ROS project was a democracy thing. Well, Count Me In! >James ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: James T. <jim...@ad...> - 2001-10-21 15:49:16
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Phillip Susi wrote: > > What would be up to ROS group? > > At 03:06 PM 10/21/2001 +0000, you wrote: > >Hi, > >Yes, I guess. I'm already part of the FreeDOS group on SF. It would > >be up to ROS group. > >Thanks, > >James Hi. OH, I thought the ROS project was a democracy thing. Well, Count Me In! James ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: Phillip S. <ps...@cf...> - 2001-10-21 15:20:10
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What would be up to ROS group? At 03:06 PM 10/21/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Hi, >Yes, I guess. I'm already part of the FreeDOS group on SF. It would >be up to ROS group. >Thanks, >James ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: James T. <jim...@ad...> - 2001-10-21 15:12:17
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James Tabor wrote: > > Phillip Susi wrote: > > > > Why don't you get a CVS account, and check it in yourself? Ask Rex to > > create your account. > > > > At 07:31 AM 10/21/2001 +0000, you wrote: > > >Hi, > > >I just finished porting lz32 over to ROS. I'm not sure what to do > > >with it. I zipped it up. It's no larger than 8k. I was experimenting. > > >The only thing wrong is TARGET_BASE. It needs a good address. > > >Thanks, > > >James > > > Hi, > Yes, I guess. I'm already part of the FreeDOS group on SF. It would > be up to ROS group. > Thanks, > James HAY! ROS has it's own CVS! James :^D ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: James T. <jim...@ad...> - 2001-10-21 15:07:25
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Phillip Susi wrote: > > Why don't you get a CVS account, and check it in yourself? Ask Rex to > create your account. > > At 07:31 AM 10/21/2001 +0000, you wrote: > >Hi, > >I just finished porting lz32 over to ROS. I'm not sure what to do > >with it. I zipped it up. It's no larger than 8k. I was experimenting. > >The only thing wrong is TARGET_BASE. It needs a good address. > >Thanks, > >James > Hi, Yes, I guess. I'm already part of the FreeDOS group on SF. It would be up to ROS group. Thanks, James ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: Phillip S. <ps...@cf...> - 2001-10-21 14:23:56
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Why don't you get a CVS account, and check it in yourself? Ask Rex to create your account. At 07:31 AM 10/21/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Hi, >I just finished porting lz32 over to ROS. I'm not sure what to do >with it. I zipped it up. It's no larger than 8k. I was experimenting. >The only thing wrong is TARGET_BASE. It needs a good address. >Thanks, >James ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: James T. <jim...@ad...> - 2001-10-21 07:34:13
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Hi, I just finished porting lz32 over to ROS. I'm not sure what to do with it. I zipped it up. It's no larger than 8k. I was experimenting. The only thing wrong is TARGET_BASE. It needs a good address. Thanks, James |
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From: James T. <jim...@ad...> - 2001-10-20 18:59:25
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Casper Hornstrup wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jim...@ad... > > [mailto:jim...@ad...] > > Sent: 20. oktober 2001 10:14 > > To: ros...@re... > > Subject: [ros-kernel] Dll Makefiles > > > > > > Hi, > > How do you determine TARGET_BASE in a makefile? > > James > > Currently they are randomly determined. We need a build tool that > keep track of them and hand out base addresses for the DLL's. > > - Casper > Hi, Okay. James ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: Jason F. <jas...@ya...> - 2001-10-20 11:11:33
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Yes, I am project coordinator. Brian Palmer (br...@sg...) is application team coordinator. - Jason --- "Brian G." <bm...@ya...> wrote: > No I am not the one in charge of applications, Jason Filby is in > charge > of ReactOS (I think) as a whole. I reccommend working slightly > lower > then application level. It might not be as hard as you think. An > example would be the GDI, sure the hardware portion would be > difficult, > but the functions like FloodFill would be easy to implement. > > More experienced developers please correct me if I am wrong, > Brian G. > > --- Steven Edwards <Ste...@kn...> wrote: > > Its alright, I know what you mean. Your in charge of apps where > > should we > > focus? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian G. [mailto:bm...@ya...] > > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:57 PM > > To: ros...@re... > > Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: RE: [ros-applications] Do not think > about a > > shell yet! > > > > > > Sorry, if I sounded offensive. I was just concerned that people > do > > not > > understand the state of ReactOS (Which I myself, may be wrong > about). > > > > --- Steven Edwards <Ste...@kn...> wrote: > > > Hey if they write a shell that is currently compatable with > > NT/2K/XP > > > whats > > > the problem? I'm working on fixing wines notepad for ReactOS. > > > > > > I mean dont get me worng I'm know other stuff needs fixing. > Stuff > > > that > > > REALLY needs work. Drivers, GDI, Network Stack, Common DLLs, > > > Filesystems, > > > Drivers Again =P And the Shell is really low on the list, but I > > cant > > > do much > > > of the above. But if I can help work on the explorer > replacement > > then > > > I'm > > > going to try and do it. If not I'm still going to be doing > > > application and > > > driver testing or documentation. If no one wants that then I > wont > > be > > > around. > > > > > > Steven > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Brian G. > > > To: ros...@re... > > > Sent: 10/18/01 5:13 PM > > > Subject: [ros-applications] Do not think about a shell yet! > > > > > > 2 things: > > > > > > 1). More of the lower level needs to be finished! Do not think > > about > > > a > > > shell just yet. > > > 2). MUST BE BINARY COMPATIBLE WITH WINNT! > > > > > > Correct me if I am wrong, > > > Brian G. > > > > > > P.S. My apologies for posting to 2 lists, but I am hoping to > move > > > this > > > discussion where I think it belongs (the applications list) > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==================================================== > > > = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = > > > = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = > > > ==================================================== > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > ==================================================== > > = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = > > = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = > > ==================================================== > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com > > ==================================================== > = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = > = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = > ==================================================== > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: Jason F. <jas...@ya...> - 2001-10-20 11:07:19
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--- Reddog Hummer <red...@ho...> wrote: >Looking at the code is one thing, understanding it is another. >Reading the documentation that is acompanied usualy helps a bit >but..... where do you start reading to understand the kernel, to >understand the workings ? We're working on a proper documentation series at the moment. Look out for it in the near future! - Jason __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: Casper H. <ch...@us...> - 2001-10-20 10:33:44
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> -----Original Message----- > From: jim...@ad... > [mailto:jim...@ad...] > Sent: 20. oktober 2001 10:14 > To: ros...@re... > Subject: [ros-kernel] Dll Makefiles > > > Hi, > How do you determine TARGET_BASE in a makefile? > James Currently they are randomly determined. We need a build tool that keep track of them and hand out base addresses for the DLL's. - Casper ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: James T. <jim...@ad...> - 2001-10-20 08:14:45
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Hi, How do you determine TARGET_BASE in a makefile? James ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: Robert D. <od...@pn...> - 2001-10-20 01:13:42
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Good reading on changes introduced in WinXP: http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/01/12/XPKernel/XPKernel.asp ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: Brian G. <bm...@ya...> - 2001-10-19 21:15:17
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No I am not the one in charge of applications, Jason Filby is in charge of ReactOS (I think) as a whole. I reccommend working slightly lower then application level. It might not be as hard as you think. An example would be the GDI, sure the hardware portion would be difficult, but the functions like FloodFill would be easy to implement. More experienced developers please correct me if I am wrong, Brian G. --- Steven Edwards <Ste...@kn...> wrote: > Its alright, I know what you mean. Your in charge of apps where > should we > focus? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian G. [mailto:bm...@ya...] > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:57 PM > To: ros...@re... > Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: RE: [ros-applications] Do not think about a > shell yet! > > > Sorry, if I sounded offensive. I was just concerned that people do > not > understand the state of ReactOS (Which I myself, may be wrong about). > > --- Steven Edwards <Ste...@kn...> wrote: > > Hey if they write a shell that is currently compatable with > NT/2K/XP > > whats > > the problem? I'm working on fixing wines notepad for ReactOS. > > > > I mean dont get me worng I'm know other stuff needs fixing. Stuff > > that > > REALLY needs work. Drivers, GDI, Network Stack, Common DLLs, > > Filesystems, > > Drivers Again =P And the Shell is really low on the list, but I > cant > > do much > > of the above. But if I can help work on the explorer replacement > then > > I'm > > going to try and do it. If not I'm still going to be doing > > application and > > driver testing or documentation. If no one wants that then I wont > be > > around. > > > > Steven > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian G. > > To: ros...@re... > > Sent: 10/18/01 5:13 PM > > Subject: [ros-applications] Do not think about a shell yet! > > > > 2 things: > > > > 1). More of the lower level needs to be finished! Do not think > about > > a > > shell just yet. > > 2). MUST BE BINARY COMPATIBLE WITH WINNT! > > > > Correct me if I am wrong, > > Brian G. > > > > P.S. My apologies for posting to 2 lists, but I am hoping to move > > this > > discussion where I think it belongs (the applications list) > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > ==================================================== > > = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = > > = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = > > ==================================================== > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com > > ==================================================== > = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = > = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = > ==================================================== > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: Gene I <ge...@ya...> - 2001-10-19 20:49:13
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If you want to understand the big picture of how the kernel works you should probably read "Inside Windows 2000" by Solomon and Russinovich. It's a very good book and it is very clear. (also you may want to look at the articles posted at http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/information.shtml website of the book authors) After/while reading that book, I would look at the "nt insider newsletter" here: http://www.osr.com/ntinsider_online.shtml (look under back issues). A lot of good articles, but geared more towards the device driver writers. Another source is windows DDK (you can donwload it for free, if you haven't done it already). You should have it as a reference for the functions that are exported by the kernel. Design of reactos kernel follows the design of winnt as it is described in many books. So basically any book on nt device drivers and nt kernel will give you information to understand the implementation in reactos. If I were to try to read reactos source code again, I would start by looking at the implementation of one of the device drivers. From this I would just look at how different parts of the os are implemented: process manager, memory manager... by looking at the source code for the exported functions and the data structures that are used. Hope this helps, ei --- Reddog Hummer <red...@ho...> wrote: > Looking at the code is one thing, understanding it > is another. Reading the > documentation that is acompanied usualy helps a bit > but..... > where do you start reading to understand the kernel, > to understand the > workings ? > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: Steven E. <Ste...@kn...> - 2001-10-19 18:59:23
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I dont have a account on moc and use anon cvs all the time with no problems. Steven -----Original Message----- From: Rex Jolliff To: ros...@re... Sent: 10/19/01 1:31 PM Subject: [ros-general] Re: Unable to access CVS? At 09:49 PM 9/24/01 -0300, you wrote: > > when trying to get the latest files from CVS I get the following message: > > > > cvs login: authorization failed: server mok.lvcm.com rejected access to > > /CVS/ReactOS for user cvsanon > > > > Anyone know what is going on? I am using the instructions on the ros > > website. > >I get the exact same result when i follow the instructions. What are we >doing wrong? Is anyone still having problems accessing anonymous cvs? If so send me the details and I'll see if I can help. Rex Jolliff re...@lv... ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: Steven E. <Ste...@kn...> - 2001-10-19 17:10:15
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If you want to discuss this it will have to be done in = ros-applications. -----Original Message----- From: Zeno Kaiser To: ros...@re... Sent: 10/19/01 9:20 AM Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: RE: [ros-applications] Do not think about a = shell yet! i think stevens ideas are good and i have find ReactOS programmers they will help me and steven to program a shell!!! greets GenesisXG <ros...@re...> schrieb am 19.10.01: > <b>Warnung:</b><br>Der HTML-Inhalt der Mail enthielt aktive Elemente wie Java, Javascript oder Formulare. <br>Diese Teile wurden aus Sicherheitsgr=FCnden deaktiviert. M=F6glicherweise ist die Darstellung = der Mail dadurch beeintr=E4chtigt.<hr> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hey if they write = a shell that is currently compatable with NT/2K/XP whats the problem? I'm working on fixing wines notepad for ReactOS.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I mean dont get me worng I'm know other stuff needs fixing. = Stuff that REALLY needs work. Drivers, GDI, Network Stack, Common DLLs, Filesystems, Drivers Again =3DP And the Shell is really low on the = list, but I cant do much of the above. But if I can help work on the explorer replacement then I'm going to try and do it. If not I'm still going to be doing application and driver testing or documentation. If no one wants that then I wont be around.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Steven</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Brian G.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: ros...@re...</FONT> <BR><FONT = SIZE=3D2>Sent: 10/18/01 5:13 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: [ros-applications] = Do not think about a shell yet!</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>2 things:</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>1). More of the lower level = needs to be finished! Do not think about a</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>shell = just yet.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>2). MUST BE BINARY COMPATIBLE WITH WINNT!</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Correct me if I am wrong,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Brian G.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>P.S. My = apologies for posting to 2 lists, but I am hoping to move this</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>discussion where I think it belongs (the applications list)</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>__________________________________________________</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Do You Yahoo!?</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Make a = great connection at Yahoo! Personals.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><A HREF=3D"http://personals.yahoo.com" TARGET=3D"_blank">http://personals.yahoo.com</A></FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>=3D To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to =3D</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>=3D <A HREF=3D"http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html" TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html</A>=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 =3D</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</FONT> </P> _______________________________________________________________________ 1.000.000 DM gewinnen - kostenlos tippen - http://millionenklick.web.de Ih...@we..., 8MB Speicher, Verschluesselung - http://freemail.web.de =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to =3D = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D |
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From: Steven E. <Ste...@kn...> - 2001-10-19 17:00:48
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I agree 100% and I wasnt suggesting doing these things anytime soon. They are just ideas for working around problems with existing resources. Yes, the kernel/driver/network support is what needs the work. However its discussions like this that allow you to build a roadmap to future features. Steven -----Original Message----- From: Frank D. Engel, Jr. To: ros...@re... Sent: 10/19/01 8:53 AM Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: RE: Where are you drawing the line? Suggestion: Work on the "essentials" first, then worry about this. It would be good to implement these things in some manner, in order to increase the capabilities of the OS, but I'd like to see a stable kernel running a usable interface before I'd be concerned about playing the latest games and crashing the system every 10 seconds. --- Steven Edwards <Ste...@kn...> wrote: > When it comes to most of the direct X componets I would look at wine. > Think > about Glide and the Glide wrappers that we used to see in gaming. If > thats what the project wanted. Mesa does compile on 9x/NT so I dont > Explorer for technical or legal problems mabey making wrappers or > I was wondering where you are drawing the line as far as rewriting > windows > components? Are going to rewrite everything like IE, directX, and ===== ======= Frank D. Engel, Jr. Please note my new address: fd...@ya... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: Reddog H. <red...@ho...> - 2001-10-19 13:40:37
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Looking at the code is one thing, understanding it is another. Reading the documentation that is acompanied usualy helps a bit but..... where do you start reading to understand the kernel, to understand the workings ? Personaly this is a commen problem for this kinds of projects. You need developers but: how can they learn enough (fast) to be of use ? A little documentation (introducktion) on how it works ( on a high level like: booting of lilo, then this file is runned to load this and this bla bla) could be verry usefull. Understanding the big picture let's the small things make (more) sence. Such a document will not only help me but also any other programmer that's new to the project and wants to make an contribution to this OS. Haven't find that doc yet so it could already be out theire so i keep my eye's open. In the meantime.... i'll have to start at a /dev/random point in the code and see what happens. Rolf > If you know C/C++ then you know as much C/C++ as they do. The thing you > are lacking is the knowledge of how the OS works. Don't be afraid to > look at the code. > > Brian G. > > > p.s. I'd like to contribute, but i think my C++, C programming skills > > aren't that of the kernelteam or even close. Any Ideas how I can help ? ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: Zeno K. <Gen...@we...> - 2001-10-19 13:30:47
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i think stevens ideas are good and i have find ReactOS programmers they wi= ll help me and steven to program a shell!!! greets GenesisXG <ros...@re...> schrieb am 19.10.01: > <b>Warnung:</b><br>Der HTML-Inhalt der Mail enthielt aktive Elemente wie= Java, Javascript oder Formulare. <br>Diese Teile wurden aus Sicherheitsgr= =FCnden deaktiviert. M=F6glicherweise ist die Darstellung der Mail dadurch bee= intr=E4chtigt.<hr> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hey if they write a shell that is curren= tly compatable with NT/2K/XP whats the problem=3F I'm working on fixing wine= s notepad for ReactOS.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I mean dont get me worn= g I'm know other stuff needs fixing. Stuff that REALLY needs work. Drivers= , GDI, Network Stack, Common DLLs, Filesystems, Drivers Again =3DP And the S= hell is really low on the list, but I cant do much of the above. But if I = can help work on the explorer replacement then I'm going to try and do it.= If not I'm still going to be doing application and driver testing or docu= mentation. If no one wants that then I wont be around.</FONT></P> <P><FON= T SIZE=3D2>Steven</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message---= --</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Brian G.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: ros-= app...@re...</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: 10/18/01 5:13 PM</F= ONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: [ros-applications] Do not think about a she= ll yet!</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>2 things:</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D= 2>1). More of the lower level needs to be finished! Do not think about a</= FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>shell just yet.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>2). MUST BE= BINARY COMPATIBLE WITH WINNT!</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Correct me if = I am wrong,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Brian G.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>= P.S. My apologies for posting to 2 lists, but I am hoping to move this</FO= NT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>discussion where I think it belongs (the applications= list)</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Do You Yahoo!=3F</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D= 2>Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><A = HREF=3D"http://personals.yahoo.com" TARGET=3D"=5Fblank">http://personals.yahoo.c= om</A></FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>=3D To remove yourself from this mail= ing list, go to =3D</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>=3D <A HREF=3D"http://www.reactos.co= m/home/mailing.html" TARGET=3D"=5Fblank">http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.h= tml</A>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =3D</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</FONT> </P> =20 =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F 1.000.000 DM gewinnen - kostenlos tippen - http://millionenklick.web.de Ih...@we..., 8MB Speicher, Verschluesselung - http://freemail.web.de ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: Frank D. E. Jr. <fd...@ya...> - 2001-10-19 12:53:54
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Suggestion: Work on the "essentials" first, then worry about this. It would be good to implement these things in some manner, in order to increase the capabilities of the OS, but I'd like to see a stable kernel running a usable interface before I'd be concerned about playing the latest games and crashing the system every 10 seconds. --- Steven Edwards <Ste...@kn...> wrote: > When it comes to most of the direct X componets I would look at wine. > Think > about Glide and the Glide wrappers that we used to see in gaming. If > thats what the project wanted. Mesa does compile on 9x/NT so I dont > Explorer for technical or legal problems mabey making wrappers or > I was wondering where you are drawing the line as far as rewriting > windows > components? Are going to rewrite everything like IE, directX, and ===== ======= Frank D. Engel, Jr. Please note my new address: fd...@ya... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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From: Steven E. <Ste...@kn...> - 2001-10-19 12:41:42
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I'm sorry if some of you guys have trouble reading my emails or it pisses you off. I'm only keeping this account for a few more weeks and then I'll be able to change my setttings. I use Outlook Web Access from my old work (KnowledgeSentry) and have no way to set the outgoing format. Once I get my mailserver going here then everything will be in plain text. Thanks for understanding. Steven |
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From: Steven E. <Ste...@kn...> - 2001-10-19 12:28:16
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This is why I want to get MC-mingw working on ros. Even though a dos-like isnt part of the NT/2k/XP system, it would be nice to have this for now. Once the GDI and dialog/user libs are a little better then I can see the need to focus on writing the explorer replacement. Steven -----Original Message----- From: Reddog Hummer To: ros...@re... Sent: 10/19/01 7:09 AM Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: Do not think about a shell yet! question, how are you going comfertably test stuff if you dont have a shell to run this stuff ? then you would need to reboot al the time to test one part of the kernel. with a shell more comfortable means of testing are introduced which are more relyable (real life based) I mean it's nice to have your kernel load a predefined executable but having a shell makes it come alive. People look at it and say: "it is interactive" not just: "its boots and then it ends" rolf > 2 things: > > 1). More of the lower level needs to be finished! Do not think about a > shell just yet. > 2). MUST BE BINARY COMPATIBLE WITH WINNT! > > Correct me if I am wrong, > Brian G. > > P.S. My apologies for posting to 2 lists, but I am hoping to move this > discussion where I think it belongs (the applications list) ==================================================== = To remove yourself from this mailing list, go to = = http://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html = ==================================================== |
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