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Re: [Rails-devel] Map.xml - Tile Orientation

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

This seems to be the first game with this particular map configuration, so
I'm not surprised about finding bugs.

I cannot load your saved file (not sure why), but in my own attempt to play
it I found that tile #57 cannot be laid "in any valid orientation" on city
hexes E11 and M7; I'll try to debug that.

 

Please choose a different game name than 1830 - we already have such a game.
I named it 18XX for my test.  I cannot handle duplicate names.

 

Erik.

 

Van: Erik Vos [mailto:eri...@xs...] 
Verzonden: zaterdag 5 maart 2011 21:30
Aan: 'Scott Petersen'; 'Development list for Rails: an 18xx game'
Onderwerp: Re: [Rails-devel] Map.xml - Tile Orientation

 

I'll have a look.

 

Van: sco...@gm... [mailto:sco...@gm...] Namens
Scott Petersen
Verzonden: zaterdag 5 maart 2011 21:18
Aan: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
CC: Erik Vos
Onderwerp: Re: [Rails-devel] Map.xml - Tile Orientation

 

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Erik Vos <eri...@xs...> wrote:

It's about how the hexes are named.

"letterOrientation" defines whether the letters (A-Z) alongside the map run
horizontally or vertically.

"even" defines which letters have even numbers: A (i.e. A2, A4, B3, C4) or B
(i.e. A1, A3, B2, C3 etc.) - in fact any letter can be used here.

Yes, there are 2x2x2=8 possibilities to set up map orientation and map hexes
naming!

 

Erik.


Thanks.  I suppose that's not the problem unless there is something I'm
still not understanding.  I have attached the XML files (modified from 1830)
and a save file if someone's willing to take a look.  Note how the track is
discontinuous in the northwest and lots of otherwise legal track upgrades
are disallowed.  I added the #441 single spoke city to help me troubleshoot
the error.

The tile upgrades seem to think that they are actually a space away (i.e.
E11 only allows the upgrades that would be allowed in G11).  I can't figure
out the general rule for the error.  I am totally stumped on this.  I was
thinking it was related to rotating the hexes, but now I'm not so sure.

[Rails-devel] 1889 Tile Upgrade Issues

[Scott P. <sc...@re...>]

Have the 1889 tile upgrades been definitively fixed?  If not, I can sit down
with my physical tiles and update the XML file.  The last I saw was that
everything that looks like it *should* be upgradeable in fact is
upgradeable, but I never saw that someone went through the process of
working through this.

Re: [Rails-devel] Map.xml - Tile Orientation

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

I'll have a look.

 

Van: sco...@gm... [mailto:sco...@gm...] Namens
Scott Petersen
Verzonden: zaterdag 5 maart 2011 21:18
Aan: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
CC: Erik Vos
Onderwerp: Re: [Rails-devel] Map.xml - Tile Orientation

 

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Erik Vos <eri...@xs...> wrote:

It's about how the hexes are named.

"letterOrientation" defines whether the letters (A-Z) alongside the map run
horizontally or vertically.

"even" defines which letters have even numbers: A (i.e. A2, A4, B3, C4) or B
(i.e. A1, A3, B2, C3 etc.) - in fact any letter can be used here.

Yes, there are 2x2x2=8 possibilities to set up map orientation and map hexes
naming!

 

Erik.


Thanks.  I suppose that's not the problem unless there is something I'm
still not understanding.  I have attached the XML files (modified from 1830)
and a save file if someone's willing to take a look.  Note how the track is
discontinuous in the northwest and lots of otherwise legal track upgrades
are disallowed.  I added the #441 single spoke city to help me troubleshoot
the error.

The tile upgrades seem to think that they are actually a space away (i.e.
E11 only allows the upgrades that would be allowed in G11).  I can't figure
out the general rule for the error.  I am totally stumped on this.  I was
thinking it was related to rotating the hexes, but now I'm not so sure.

Re: [Rails-devel] No close/load ability?

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

I have committed code for this feature. There is a new "File | Reload"
option in the game status window.

Contrary to what I said below, it can only be used to load a *later* version
of the same game, and it also lets you retry if you pick a saved file that
does not match with the current game.

It basically works for me, although error reporting may need some further
polishing.

To anyone interested: please give it a try.

Erik.

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Erik Vos [mailto:eri...@xs...]
> Verzonden: donderdag 3 maart 2011 22:31
> Aan: 'Development list for Rails: an 18xx game'
> Onderwerp: Re: [Rails-devel] No close/load ability?
> 
> OK, this (what I would call) "Reload" feature sounds useful and pretty
easy to
> do.  The reloaded file must be an earlier or a later version of the same
game,
> otherwise Rails will complain and throw you out. I'll put this high on my
to-do
> list.
> 
> Erik.
> 
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: Rick Westerman [mailto:wes...@pu...]
> > Verzonden: woensdag 2 maart 2011 16:33
> > Aan: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
> > Onderwerp: Re: [Rails-devel] No close/load ability?
> >
> >
> >
> > > Thinking about it, what might be doable without too much effort is
> > > to enable loading a saved file that represents a later stage in the
> > > *same* game.
> > > Rails
> > > could do a check of the actions in the saved game against the
> > > actions currently in memory, and get on as long as these are
> > > identical, finally picking up any extra actions in the saved game
> > > file. If I understand you correctly, that would help you out in the
> > > case you describe, right?
> >
> > That would be correct.
> >
> > In part such an ability would potentially bring around the long
> > desired 'network play'.  I can foresee more-or-less automated play
> > that involves
> the
> > program itself automatically dropping off and retrieving files from a
> place like
> > 'dropbox'.   Of course this ability would require yet more coding!
Wish
> I
> > knew Java or had enough time to learn it.  Alas my day job interferes
> > and
> my
> > night life (e.g., the family) keeps me occupied.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -- Rick
> >
> >
> >
> > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > Van: Rick Westerman [mailto:wes...@pu...]
> > > > Verzonden: dinsdag 1 maart 2011 14:19
> > > > Aan: Development List Rails
> > > > Onderwerp: [Rails-devel] No close/load ability?
> > > >
> > > > Hello list:
> > > >
> > > >    I am back looking and using Rails after a year or so hiatus.
> > > > One
> > > feature I find
> > > > missing (and that I find strange that no one has made a feature
> > > > request
> > > for)
> > > > is the ability to close the current game and open up another game
> > > > without having to quit and restart Rails. So I am wondering if I
> > > > am missing
> > > something
> > > > obvious. Is there a way to load in a game without having to quit
> > > > Rails?
> > > >
> > > >    What is really bring this to the fore for me is that a buddy and
> > > >    I are
> > > playing
> > > > two-player 1889 via putting our files into Dropbox. When we are
> > > > both on
> > > line
> > > > then we can get a bunch of moves done but are having to quit Rails
> > > > between moves. In other words I find myself doing:
> > > >
> > > >   1) Start Rails
> > > >   2) Load in the current game file, do my move, save the file.
> > > >   3) See via Dropbox that my buddy has done his move.
> > > >   4) Quit Rails. Repeat starting from #1.
> > > >
> > > >   What would be preferable is:
> > > >
> > > >   1) Start Rails
> > > >   2) Load, do move, save as in #2 above.
> > > >   3) See my buddy do his move.
> > > >   4) Repeat starting with #2; i.e., no quit/start of Rails
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rick Westerman
> > > > wes...@pu...
> > > >
> >
> >
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Re: [Rails-devel] 18GA

[Adam B. <ab...@o2...>]

I will sent you what I have already done on Sunday or Monday (I am out of my home now without access to my changes). I suspended progressing with 18GA while trying to add suport for swamp and mountain symbols (I wnated to make the map look better). This issue got me deeply engaged so maybe indeed it would be better to have someone else carry on with 18GA.
Dnia 5 marca 2011 19:49 Scott Petersen <sc...@re...> napisał(a):
Is anyone actively working on XML files for 18GA? Adam Badura?  I would like to spend some time on them, but don't want to duplicate effort.  I'll take them as far as I can with just XML.  If they are a work in progress, I could finish them up.
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[Rails-devel] 18GA

[Scott P. <sc...@re...>]

Is anyone actively working on XML files for 18GA? Adam Badura?  I would like
to spend some time on them, but don't want to duplicate effort.  I'll take
them as far as I can with just XML.  If they are a work in progress, I could
finish them up.

I will also work on implementing the Cotton Port variant which mostly only
changes the map, but also lets the GA place two home tokens (not sure the
best way to implement that).

[Rails-devel] Documentation

[Stefan F. <jk...@gm...>]

Hello,

[Rails-devel] No close/load ability?
Am 01.03.2011 14:19, schrieb Rick Westerman:
 > I am back looking and using Rails after a year or so hiatus.

 From struggling through the archives : Rick = documentation
or

Ghosts haunting:

<pre>
Re: [Rails-devel] Documentation
From: Rick Westerman <westerman@pu...> - 2010-01-20 14:08

Freek Dijkstra wrote:
 > Out of curiosity: where can I find the documentation? I could not
 > find it in the tarbal or on the website. Perhaps I overlooked it.

I'm still working on it.  A large part is understanding the program 
in the first place.  And, as with all of us, doing this in my spare 
time.
</pre>

Where can I find the documentation? Even smithereens could be 
interesting for the wiki.

ciao stefan

Re: [Rails-devel] Help with getting rails + eclipse running

[brett l. <bre...@gm...>]

I've added some documentation about setting up your development
environment to the wiki.

https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/rails/index.php?title=Development_environment_setup

---Brett.



On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:06 PM, john guthrie <gr...@gm...> wrote:
> i went through the same steps as you and got the same result. it looks to me
> like eclipse doesn't recognize "rails" as a JAVA project, so the run
> configuration screen doesn't list it.
> i was able to get it to work by cd'ing into rails, moving the 18xx directory
> up to my workspace, then creating a new java project from existing source
> called 18xx. the run configuration sees that just fine.
> john
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Justin Rebelo <jus...@gm...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys. I am attempting to get myself set up with a rails
>> development environment with Eclipse. I'm not a java programmer, but
>> I'm interested in having a the environment set up so I can experiment
>> and learn a bit about both Java and rails (I'm a software developer
>> already and the java language looks quite natural to me, I just don't
>> know the libraries, etc).
>>
>> I believe I'm on the cusp of having this all going, thanks to a
>> helpful overview courtesy of Phil Davies. I've come across a snag at
>> what is surely the final step in the process and I'm going to give a
>> very detailed account here of what I did to get to this point and
>> hopefully some of you kind folks can spot what I've missed or done
>> incorrectly. I know this isn't an eclipse support ML, but hopefully
>> this is topical enough to be acceptable here (as I've heard other
>> people mention a desire to try the same thing).
>>
>> Here's what I did and I've linked to screenshots along the way so you
>> can see exactly what I saw.
>>
>> Operating System: Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit
>> % java -version
>> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.9.7) (6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1)
>> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.0-b09, mixed mode)
>>
>> (Note that rails has run without issue for me using these versions for
>> some time, so I am quite sure that the issue here is just an eclipse
>> setup issue)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Installed Eclipse via apt-get.
>>
>> 2. Installed subversive and the ALL available connectors just to make
>> sure I had it all licked:
>>
>> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/1.png
>>
>> 3. File->New->Other->SVN->Project from SVN
>>
>> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/2.png
>>
>> 4. Specified project name 'rails' and using HEAD rev:
>>
>> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/3.png
>>
>> 5. Checked out source (no problems)
>>
>> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/4.png
>>
>> (verification: http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/5.png )
>>
>> 6. Set up run configuration (this is where I fall off the rails....as it
>> were):
>> Disregard the odd visual artifact, it's from the screenshot app. I
>> chose the project name
>> I specified when I created the project: 'rails' and the correct main
>> class:
>>
>> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/6.png
>>
>>
>> 7. Attempt to run results in error: unable to find project
>>
>> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/8.png
>>
>> I go back into the run configuration screen and, next to the project
>> name field, I clicked on the Browse button and get this:
>>
>> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/7.png (no projects listed, as
>> though eclipse doesn't see the project I created)
>>
>> Phil suggested it could be a casing issue, so I tried using run
>> configuration with project name "Rails" and got the same error.
>>
>> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/10.png
>>
>>
>> Just to confirm, I right clicked on the project in the package
>> explorer and selected properties and you can see the window here:
>>
>> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/9.png
>>
>> The window title suggests that the project is in fact called 'rails'.
>> The only thing I can venture is that, for some reason, Eclipse isn't
>> recognizing this "Project from SVN" as being a project at all.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas, folks?
>>
>> If any more info is needed, just shoot and I'll provide all I can.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Justin
>>
>>
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Re: [Rails-devel] Map.xml - Tile Orientation

[brett l. <bre...@gm...>]

I've added a new set of pages on the wiki, and have added this
explanation to it.

---Brett.



On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Erik Vos <eri...@xs...> wrote:
> It’s about how the hexes are named.
>
> “letterOrientation” defines whether the letters (A-Z) alongside the map run
> horizontally or vertically.
>
> “even” defines which letters have even numbers: A (i.e. A2, A4, B3, C4) or B
> (i.e. A1, A3, B2, C3 etc.) – in fact any letter can be used here.
>
> Yes, there are 2x2x2=8 possibilities to set up map orientation and map hexes
> naming!
>
>
>
> Erik.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Van: Scott Petersen [mailto:sc...@re...]
> Verzonden: donderdag 3 maart 2011 2:15
> Aan: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
> Onderwerp: [Rails-devel] Map.xml - Tile Orientation
>
>
>
> I am modifying the 1830 xml files to put my prototype game into rails (and
> having a great time of it!), but have hit a snag.  The map looks right, but
> I am running into problems when I try to lay tiles--lots of "no valid
> orientation" errors.
>
> My game has the NS tile orientation unlike the EW orientation in 1830.
> Things seem to play okay if I leave the orientation as EW in Map.xml
> although the map is rotated and the orientations of the special tiles are
> wrong.
>
> Instead of the first line of the 1830 Map.xml, I am using the one from 18AL
> which has the NS tile orientation.
> <Map mapClass="rails.ui.swing.hexmap.NSHexMap" tileOrientation="NS"
> letterOrientation="vertical" even="A">
>
> What do the last two items in that line mean ("letterOrientation" and
> "even").  Or maybe more helpful for me--what is the short list of things to
> change when moving from the 1830 EW tile orientation to the NS orientation?
> Thanks.
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] Map.xml - Tile Orientation

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

It's about how the hexes are named.

"letterOrientation" defines whether the letters (A-Z) alongside the map run
horizontally or vertically.

"even" defines which letters have even numbers: A (i.e. A2, A4, B3, C4) or B
(i.e. A1, A3, B2, C3 etc.) - in fact any letter can be used here.

Yes, there are 2x2x2=8 possibilities to set up map orientation and map hexes
naming!

 

Erik.

 

 

 

 

Van: Scott Petersen [mailto:sc...@re...] 
Verzonden: donderdag 3 maart 2011 2:15
Aan: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
Onderwerp: [Rails-devel] Map.xml - Tile Orientation

 

I am modifying the 1830 xml files to put my prototype game into rails (and
having a great time of it!), but have hit a snag.  The map looks right, but
I am running into problems when I try to lay tiles--lots of "no valid
orientation" errors.

My game has the NS tile orientation unlike the EW orientation in 1830.
Things seem to play okay if I leave the orientation as EW in Map.xml
although the map is rotated and the orientations of the special tiles are
wrong.

Instead of the first line of the 1830 Map.xml, I am using the one from 18AL
which has the NS tile orientation.
<Map mapClass="rails.ui.swing.hexmap.NSHexMap" tileOrientation="NS"
letterOrientation="vertical" even="A">

What do the last two items in that line mean ("letterOrientation" and
"even").  Or maybe more helpful for me--what is the short list of things to
change when moving from the 1830 EW tile orientation to the NS orientation?
Thanks. 

Re: [Rails-devel] No close/load ability?

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

OK, this (what I would call) "Reload" feature sounds useful and pretty easy
to do.  The reloaded file must be an earlier or a later version of the same
game, otherwise Rails will complain and throw you out. I'll put this high on
my to-do list.

Erik.

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Rick Westerman [mailto:wes...@pu...]
> Verzonden: woensdag 2 maart 2011 16:33
> Aan: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
> Onderwerp: Re: [Rails-devel] No close/load ability?
> 
> 
> 
> > Thinking about it, what might be doable without too much effort is to
> > enable loading a saved file that represents a later stage in the
> > *same* game.
> > Rails
> > could do a check of the actions in the saved game against the actions
> > currently in memory, and get on as long as these are identical,
> > finally picking up any extra actions in the saved game file. If I
> > understand you correctly, that would help you out in the case you
> > describe, right?
> 
> That would be correct.
> 
> In part such an ability would potentially bring around the long desired
> 'network play'.  I can foresee more-or-less automated play that involves
the
> program itself automatically dropping off and retrieving files from a
place like
> 'dropbox'.   Of course this ability would require yet more coding!   Wish
I
> knew Java or had enough time to learn it.  Alas my day job interferes and
my
> night life (e.g., the family) keeps me occupied.
> 
> Thanks,
> -- Rick
> 
> 
> 
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: Rick Westerman [mailto:wes...@pu...]
> > > Verzonden: dinsdag 1 maart 2011 14:19
> > > Aan: Development List Rails
> > > Onderwerp: [Rails-devel] No close/load ability?
> > >
> > > Hello list:
> > >
> > >    I am back looking and using Rails after a year or so hiatus. One
> > feature I find
> > > missing (and that I find strange that no one has made a feature
> > > request
> > for)
> > > is the ability to close the current game and open up another game
> > > without having to quit and restart Rails. So I am wondering if I am
> > > missing
> > something
> > > obvious. Is there a way to load in a game without having to quit
> > > Rails?
> > >
> > >    What is really bring this to the fore for me is that a buddy and
> > >    I are
> > playing
> > > two-player 1889 via putting our files into Dropbox. When we are both
> > > on
> > line
> > > then we can get a bunch of moves done but are having to quit Rails
> > > between moves. In other words I find myself doing:
> > >
> > >   1) Start Rails
> > >   2) Load in the current game file, do my move, save the file.
> > >   3) See via Dropbox that my buddy has done his move.
> > >   4) Quit Rails. Repeat starting from #1.
> > >
> > >   What would be preferable is:
> > >
> > >   1) Start Rails
> > >   2) Load, do move, save as in #2 above.
> > >   3) See my buddy do his move.
> > >   4) Repeat starting with #2; i.e., no quit/start of Rails
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rick Westerman
> > > wes...@pu...
> > >
> 
>
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[Rails-devel] Map.xml - Tile Orientation

[Scott P. <sc...@re...>]

I am modifying the 1830 xml files to put my prototype game into rails (and
having a great time of it!), but have hit a snag.  The map looks right, but
I am running into problems when I try to lay tiles--lots of "no valid
orientation" errors.

My game has the NS tile orientation unlike the EW orientation in 1830.
Things seem to play okay if I leave the orientation as EW in Map.xml
although the map is rotated and the orientations of the special tiles are
wrong.

Instead of the first line of the 1830 Map.xml, I am using the one from 18AL
which has the NS tile orientation.
<Map mapClass="rails.ui.swing.hexmap.NSHexMap" tileOrientation="NS"
letterOrientation="vertical" even="A">

What do the last two items in that line mean ("letterOrientation" and
"even").  Or maybe more helpful for me--what is the short list of things to
change when moving from the 1830 EW tile orientation to the NS orientation?
Thanks.

Re: [Rails-devel] Help with getting rails + eclipse running

[john g. <gr...@gm...>]

i went through the same steps as you and got the same result. it looks to me
like eclipse doesn't recognize "rails" as a JAVA project, so the run
configuration screen doesn't list it.

i was able to get it to work by cd'ing into rails, moving the 18xx directory
up to my workspace, then creating a new java project from existing source
called 18xx. the run configuration sees that just fine.

john

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Justin Rebelo <jus...@gm...>wrote:

> Hey guys. I am attempting to get myself set up with a rails
> development environment with Eclipse. I'm not a java programmer, but
> I'm interested in having a the environment set up so I can experiment
> and learn a bit about both Java and rails (I'm a software developer
> already and the java language looks quite natural to me, I just don't
> know the libraries, etc).
>
> I believe I'm on the cusp of having this all going, thanks to a
> helpful overview courtesy of Phil Davies. I've come across a snag at
> what is surely the final step in the process and I'm going to give a
> very detailed account here of what I did to get to this point and
> hopefully some of you kind folks can spot what I've missed or done
> incorrectly. I know this isn't an eclipse support ML, but hopefully
> this is topical enough to be acceptable here (as I've heard other
> people mention a desire to try the same thing).
>
> Here's what I did and I've linked to screenshots along the way so you
> can see exactly what I saw.
>
> Operating System: Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit
> % java -version
> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.9.7) (6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1)
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.0-b09, mixed mode)
>
> (Note that rails has run without issue for me using these versions for
> some time, so I am quite sure that the issue here is just an eclipse
> setup issue)
>
>
>
>
> 1. Installed Eclipse via apt-get.
>
> 2. Installed subversive and the ALL available connectors just to make
> sure I had it all licked:
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/1.png
>
> 3. File->New->Other->SVN->Project from SVN
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/2.png
>
> 4. Specified project name 'rails' and using HEAD rev:
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/3.png
>
> 5. Checked out source (no problems)
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/4.png
>
> (verification: http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/5.png )
>
> 6. Set up run configuration (this is where I fall off the rails....as it
> were):
> Disregard the odd visual artifact, it's from the screenshot app. I
> chose the project name
> I specified when I created the project: 'rails' and the correct main class:
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/6.png
>
>
> 7. Attempt to run results in error: unable to find project
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/8.png
>
> I go back into the run configuration screen and, next to the project
> name field, I clicked on the Browse button and get this:
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/7.png (no projects listed, as
> though eclipse doesn't see the project I created)
>
> Phil suggested it could be a casing issue, so I tried using run
> configuration with project name "Rails" and got the same error.
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/10.png
>
>
> Just to confirm, I right clicked on the project in the package
> explorer and selected properties and you can see the window here:
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/9.png
>
> The window title suggests that the project is in fact called 'rails'.
> The only thing I can venture is that, for some reason, Eclipse isn't
> recognizing this "Project from SVN" as being a project at all.
>
>
>
>
> Any ideas, folks?
>
> If any more info is needed, just shoot and I'll provide all I can.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Justin
>
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] Help with getting rails + eclipse running

[brett l. <bre...@gm...>]

This is a little non-obvious.  When you check out the project, you
need to check out trunk, and not check out the whole repository (which
includes all branches and tags).  This will only check out a single
18xx directory, which has a working project file in it.

Alternatively, you can right-click on trunk/18xx, select New->Java
Project, uncheck Use Default Location, and select the
$SVN_ROOT/trunk/18xx directory, and create yourself a new project that
is at the correct directory level. This should allow you to run the
new project as a Java Application.

---Brett.



On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Justin Rebelo <jus...@gm...> wrote:
> Hey guys. I am attempting to get myself set up with a rails
> development environment with Eclipse. I'm not a java programmer, but
> I'm interested in having a the environment set up so I can experiment
> and learn a bit about both Java and rails (I'm a software developer
> already and the java language looks quite natural to me, I just don't
> know the libraries, etc).
>
> I believe I'm on the cusp of having this all going, thanks to a
> helpful overview courtesy of Phil Davies. I've come across a snag at
> what is surely the final step in the process and I'm going to give a
> very detailed account here of what I did to get to this point and
> hopefully some of you kind folks can spot what I've missed or done
> incorrectly. I know this isn't an eclipse support ML, but hopefully
> this is topical enough to be acceptable here (as I've heard other
> people mention a desire to try the same thing).
>
> Here's what I did and I've linked to screenshots along the way so you
> can see exactly what I saw.
>
> Operating System: Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit
> % java -version
> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.9.7) (6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1)
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.0-b09, mixed mode)
>
> (Note that rails has run without issue for me using these versions for
> some time, so I am quite sure that the issue here is just an eclipse
> setup issue)
>
>
>
>
> 1. Installed Eclipse via apt-get.
>
> 2. Installed subversive and the ALL available connectors just to make
> sure I had it all licked:
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/1.png
>
> 3. File->New->Other->SVN->Project from SVN
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/2.png
>
> 4. Specified project name 'rails' and using HEAD rev:
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/3.png
>
> 5. Checked out source (no problems)
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/4.png
>
> (verification: http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/5.png )
>
> 6. Set up run configuration (this is where I fall off the rails....as it were):
> Disregard the odd visual artifact, it's from the screenshot app. I
> chose the project name
> I specified when I created the project: 'rails' and the correct main class:
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/6.png
>
>
> 7. Attempt to run results in error: unable to find project
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/8.png
>
> I go back into the run configuration screen and, next to the project
> name field, I clicked on the Browse button and get this:
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/7.png (no projects listed, as
> though eclipse doesn't see the project I created)
>
> Phil suggested it could be a casing issue, so I tried using run
> configuration with project name "Rails" and got the same error.
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/10.png
>
>
> Just to confirm, I right clicked on the project in the package
> explorer and selected properties and you can see the window here:
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/9.png
>
> The window title suggests that the project is in fact called 'rails'.
> The only thing I can venture is that, for some reason, Eclipse isn't
> recognizing this "Project from SVN" as being a project at all.
>
>
>
>
> Any ideas, folks?
>
> If any more info is needed, just shoot and I'll provide all I can.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Justin
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] Help with getting rails + eclipse running

[Justin R. <jus...@gm...>]

14 minutes. That's how long it took after sending this long
explanation for me to fix the problem on my own. =D

I had dug around at the past threads on this subject prior and done
lots of looking around at general eclipse help but the problem I was
having here was a very small issue which was actually already solved
for another user deep in a thread at the bottom of a message with
inline comments, so I failed to pick up on it the first time.
Basically, I needed to use a more specific checkout URL as was
suggested by Erik Vos here:

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=26933215

So, I'm up and running now and thanks to Erik for the help he
indirectly provided. :)


On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Justin Rebelo <jus...@gm...> wrote:
> Hey guys. I am attempting to get myself set up with a rails
> development environment with Eclipse. I'm not a java programmer, but
> I'm interested in having a the environment set up so I can experiment
> and learn a bit about both Java and rails (I'm a software developer
> already and the java language looks quite natural to me, I just don't
> know the libraries, etc).
>
> I believe I'm on the cusp of having this all going, thanks to a
> helpful overview courtesy of Phil Davies. I've come across a snag at
> what is surely the final step in the process and I'm going to give a
> very detailed account here of what I did to get to this point and
> hopefully some of you kind folks can spot what I've missed or done
> incorrectly. I know this isn't an eclipse support ML, but hopefully
> this is topical enough to be acceptable here (as I've heard other
> people mention a desire to try the same thing).
>
> Here's what I did and I've linked to screenshots along the way so you
> can see exactly what I saw.
>
> Operating System: Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit
> % java -version
> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.9.7) (6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1)
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.0-b09, mixed mode)
>
> (Note that rails has run without issue for me using these versions for
> some time, so I am quite sure that the issue here is just an eclipse
> setup issue)
>
>
>
>
> 1. Installed Eclipse via apt-get.
>
> 2. Installed subversive and the ALL available connectors just to make
> sure I had it all licked:
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/1.png
>
> 3. File->New->Other->SVN->Project from SVN
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/2.png
>
> 4. Specified project name 'rails' and using HEAD rev:
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/3.png
>
> 5. Checked out source (no problems)
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/4.png
>
> (verification: http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/5.png )
>
> 6. Set up run configuration (this is where I fall off the rails....as it were):
> Disregard the odd visual artifact, it's from the screenshot app. I
> chose the project name
> I specified when I created the project: 'rails' and the correct main class:
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/6.png
>
>
> 7. Attempt to run results in error: unable to find project
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/8.png
>
> I go back into the run configuration screen and, next to the project
> name field, I clicked on the Browse button and get this:
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/7.png (no projects listed, as
> though eclipse doesn't see the project I created)
>
> Phil suggested it could be a casing issue, so I tried using run
> configuration with project name "Rails" and got the same error.
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/10.png
>
>
> Just to confirm, I right clicked on the project in the package
> explorer and selected properties and you can see the window here:
>
> http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/9.png
>
> The window title suggests that the project is in fact called 'rails'.
> The only thing I can venture is that, for some reason, Eclipse isn't
> recognizing this "Project from SVN" as being a project at all.
>
>
>
>
> Any ideas, folks?
>
> If any more info is needed, just shoot and I'll provide all I can.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Justin
>

[Rails-devel] Help with getting rails + eclipse running

[Justin R. <jus...@gm...>]

Hey guys. I am attempting to get myself set up with a rails
development environment with Eclipse. I'm not a java programmer, but
I'm interested in having a the environment set up so I can experiment
and learn a bit about both Java and rails (I'm a software developer
already and the java language looks quite natural to me, I just don't
know the libraries, etc).

I believe I'm on the cusp of having this all going, thanks to a
helpful overview courtesy of Phil Davies. I've come across a snag at
what is surely the final step in the process and I'm going to give a
very detailed account here of what I did to get to this point and
hopefully some of you kind folks can spot what I've missed or done
incorrectly. I know this isn't an eclipse support ML, but hopefully
this is topical enough to be acceptable here (as I've heard other
people mention a desire to try the same thing).

Here's what I did and I've linked to screenshots along the way so you
can see exactly what I saw.

Operating System: Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit
% java -version
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.9.7) (6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.0-b09, mixed mode)

(Note that rails has run without issue for me using these versions for
some time, so I am quite sure that the issue here is just an eclipse
setup issue)




1. Installed Eclipse via apt-get.

2. Installed subversive and the ALL available connectors just to make
sure I had it all licked:

http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/1.png

3. File->New->Other->SVN->Project from SVN

http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/2.png

4. Specified project name 'rails' and using HEAD rev:

http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/3.png

5. Checked out source (no problems)

http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/4.png

(verification: http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/5.png )

6. Set up run configuration (this is where I fall off the rails....as it were):
Disregard the odd visual artifact, it's from the screenshot app. I
chose the project name
I specified when I created the project: 'rails' and the correct main class:

http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/6.png


7. Attempt to run results in error: unable to find project

http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/8.png

I go back into the run configuration screen and, next to the project
name field, I clicked on the Browse button and get this:

http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/7.png (no projects listed, as
though eclipse doesn't see the project I created)

Phil suggested it could be a casing issue, so I tried using run
configuration with project name "Rails" and got the same error.

http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/10.png


Just to confirm, I right clicked on the project in the package
explorer and selected properties and you can see the window here:

http://gotsignal.org/images/eclipse/9.png

The window title suggests that the project is in fact called 'rails'.
The only thing I can venture is that, for some reason, Eclipse isn't
recognizing this "Project from SVN" as being a project at all.




Any ideas, folks?

If any more info is needed, just shoot and I'll provide all I can.

Thanks in advance.
Justin

Re: [Rails-devel] No close/load ability?

[Rick W. <wes...@pu...>]

----- Original Message -----
> Rick,
> 
> Your request is quite sensible, and I fully sympathize with it (and it
> *has*
> been requested before),

I did not see it on the 'feature requests' at Sourceforge nor when scanning both the 'users' and 'development' mailing lists (at least since early 2010).  Perhaps I missed the request.  It does seem like it would be common one.

Thanks to Erik for explaining the memory issue and then suggesting:

> Thinking about it, what might be doable without too much effort is to
> enable
> loading a saved file that represents a later stage in the *same* game.
> Rails
> could do a check of the actions in the saved game against the actions
> currently in memory, and get on as long as these are identical,
> finally
> picking up any extra actions in the saved game file. If I understand
> you
> correctly, that would help you out in the case you describe, right?

That would be correct.

In part such an ability would potentially bring around the long desired 'network play'.  I can foresee more-or-less automated play that involves the program itself automatically dropping off and retrieving files from a place like 'dropbox'.   Of course this ability would require yet more coding!   Wish I knew Java or had enough time to learn it.  Alas my day job interferes and my night life (e.g., the family) keeps me occupied.  

Thanks,
-- Rick



> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: Rick Westerman [mailto:wes...@pu...]
> > Verzonden: dinsdag 1 maart 2011 14:19
> > Aan: Development List Rails
> > Onderwerp: [Rails-devel] No close/load ability?
> >
> > Hello list:
> >
> >    I am back looking and using Rails after a year or so hiatus. One
> feature I find
> > missing (and that I find strange that no one has made a feature
> > request
> for)
> > is the ability to close the current game and open up another game
> > without
> > having to quit and restart Rails. So I am wondering if I am missing
> something
> > obvious. Is there a way to load in a game without having to quit
> > Rails?
> >
> >    What is really bring this to the fore for me is that a buddy and
> >    I are
> playing
> > two-player 1889 via putting our files into Dropbox. When we are both
> > on
> line
> > then we can get a bunch of moves done but are having to quit Rails
> > between
> > moves. In other words I find myself doing:
> >
> >   1) Start Rails
> >   2) Load in the current game file, do my move, save the file.
> >   3) See via Dropbox that my buddy has done his move.
> >   4) Quit Rails. Repeat starting from #1.
> >
> >   What would be preferable is:
> >
> >   1) Start Rails
> >   2) Load, do move, save as in #2 above.
> >   3) See my buddy do his move.
> >   4) Repeat starting with #2; i.e., no quit/start of Rails
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Rick Westerman
> > wes...@pu...
> >

Re: [Rails-devel] No close/load ability?

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

Rick,

Your request is quite sensible, and I fully sympathize with it (and it *has*
been requested before), but unfortunately it is hard to achieve in Rails as
it is. When (re)playing a game, Rails creates a lot of objects in memory,
and currently there is no easy way to clean that up.  Starting another game
in the same Rails run is not far from being achievable, but the memory space
of the old game would be wasted.  

Thinking about it, what might be doable without too much effort is to enable
loading a saved file that represents a later stage in the *same* game. Rails
could do a check of the actions in the saved game against the actions
currently in memory, and get on as long as these are identical, finally
picking up any extra actions in the saved game file.  If I understand you
correctly, that would help you out in the case you describe, right?

Erik.

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Rick Westerman [mailto:wes...@pu...]
> Verzonden: dinsdag 1 maart 2011 14:19
> Aan: Development List Rails
> Onderwerp: [Rails-devel] No close/load ability?
> 
> Hello list:
> 
>    I am back looking and using Rails after a year or so hiatus.  One
feature I find
> missing (and that I find strange that no one has made a feature request
for)
> is the ability to close the current game and open up another game without
> having to quit and restart Rails.    So I am wondering if I am missing
something
> obvious.  Is there a way to load in a game without having to quit Rails?
> 
>    What is really bring this to the fore for me is that a buddy and I are
playing
> two-player 1889 via putting our files into Dropbox.  When we are both on
line
> then we can get a bunch of moves done but are having to quit Rails between
> moves.  In other words I find myself doing:
> 
>   1) Start Rails
>   2) Load in the current game file, do my move, save the file.
>   3) See via Dropbox that my buddy has done his move.
>   4) Quit Rails.  Repeat starting from #1.
> 
>   What would be preferable is:
> 
>   1) Start Rails
>   2) Load, do move, save as in #2 above.
>   3) See my buddy do his move.
>   4) Repeat starting with #2; i.e., no quit/start of Rails
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> Rick Westerman
> wes...@pu...
> 
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Re: [Rails-devel] No close/load ability?

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

It's been requested numerous times.

--
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On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:19 AM, Rick Westerman <wes...@pu...> wrote:

> Hello list:
>
>   I am back looking and using Rails after a year or so hiatus.  One feature
> I find missing (and that I find strange that no one has made a feature
> request for) is the ability to close the current game and open up another
> game without having to quit and restart Rails.    So I am wondering if I am
> missing something obvious.  Is there a way to load in a game without having
> to quit Rails?
>
>   What is really bring this to the fore for me is that a buddy and I are
> playing two-player 1889 via putting our files into Dropbox.  When we are
> both on line then we can get a bunch of moves done but are having to quit
> Rails between moves.  In other words I find myself doing:
>
>  1) Start Rails
>  2) Load in the current game file, do my move, save the file.
>  3) See via Dropbox that my buddy has done his move.
>  4) Quit Rails.  Repeat starting from #1.
>
>  What would be preferable is:
>
>  1) Start Rails
>  2) Load, do move, save as in #2 above.
>  3) See my buddy do his move.
>  4) Repeat starting with #2; i.e., no quit/start of Rails
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Rick Westerman
> wes...@pu...
>
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] No close/load ability?

[Justin R. <jus...@gm...>]

This has been mentioned recently. Currently, you're correct that you
have to close and re-open rails to load a different save file. I can
definitely appreciate the use case to justify adding the ability to
load directly, but if I was a rails developer it would likely be quite
low on my list of priorities since closing and re-opening is quite
trivial.

It's quite possible someone's already working on this feature anyway,
perhaps this thread will prompt more discussion.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:19 AM, Rick Westerman <wes...@pu...> wrote:
> Hello list:
>
>   I am back looking and using Rails after a year or so hiatus.  One feature I find missing (and that I find strange that no one has made a feature request for) is the ability to close the current game and open up another game without having to quit and restart Rails.    So I am wondering if I am missing something obvious.  Is there a way to load in a game without having to quit Rails?
>
>   What is really bring this to the fore for me is that a buddy and I are playing two-player 1889 via putting our files into Dropbox.  When we are both on line then we can get a bunch of moves done but are having to quit Rails between moves.  In other words I find myself doing:
>
>  1) Start Rails
>  2) Load in the current game file, do my move, save the file.
>  3) See via Dropbox that my buddy has done his move.
>  4) Quit Rails.  Repeat starting from #1.
>
>  What would be preferable is:
>
>  1) Start Rails
>  2) Load, do move, save as in #2 above.
>  3) See my buddy do his move.
>  4) Repeat starting with #2; i.e., no quit/start of Rails
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Rick Westerman
> wes...@pu...
>
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[Rails-devel] No close/load ability?

[Rick W. <wes...@pu...>]

Hello list:

   I am back looking and using Rails after a year or so hiatus.  One feature I find missing (and that I find strange that no one has made a feature request for) is the ability to close the current game and open up another game without having to quit and restart Rails.    So I am wondering if I am missing something obvious.  Is there a way to load in a game without having to quit Rails?

   What is really bring this to the fore for me is that a buddy and I are playing two-player 1889 via putting our files into Dropbox.  When we are both on line then we can get a bunch of moves done but are having to quit Rails between moves.  In other words I find myself doing:

  1) Start Rails
  2) Load in the current game file, do my move, save the file.
  3) See via Dropbox that my buddy has done his move.
  4) Quit Rails.  Repeat starting from #1.

  What would be preferable is:

  1) Start Rails
  2) Load, do move, save as in #2 above.
  3) See my buddy do his move.
  4) Repeat starting with #2; i.e., no quit/start of Rails

Thanks,  

-- 
Rick Westerman 
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Re: [Rails-devel] 1856 'CGR can buy 4 Trains' bug

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

Thanks!   I had overlooked this case. The patch has been applied.

Erik.


> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Phil Davies [mailto:de...@gm...]
> Verzonden: maandag 28 februari 2011 15:24
> Aan: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
> Onderwerp: [Rails-devel] 1856 'CGR can buy 4 Trains' bug
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> Fix for the bug that allows the CGR to buy a 4 train from another
corporation.
> The setBuyableTrains action that checks for trains available in other
corps
> isn't overridden in 1856 specific code so there was no check for whether
or
> not the CGR  was allowed to purchase the train type.  This should be a fix
that
> applies going forward to any game that has restrictions on corporation
> purchases by train type
> 
> Phil

[Rails-devel] 1856 'CGR can buy 4 Trains' bug

[Phil D. <de...@gm...>]

Hey all,

Fix for the bug that allows the CGR to buy a 4 train from another
corporation.  The setBuyableTrains action that checks for trains
available in other corps isn't overridden in 1856 specific code so
there was no check for whether or not the CGR  was allowed to purchase
the train type.  This should be a fix that applies going forward to
any game that has restrictions on corporation purchases by train type

Phil

Re: [Rails-devel] 1856 Issue

[Phil D. <de...@gm...>]

Just to confirm that Aliza's mentioned scenario works fine, the logic
for noting that the CGR has or has not acquired a permanent train
works even if it disposes of it later.

Phil

On 25 February 2011 09:34, Phil Davies <de...@gm...> wrote:
> I'm pretty sure that all works fine although I'll run up a test case
> to check it.  The whole process around 'has CGR acquired a permanent
> train or not' seems fairly solid, the bit that was missing was the
> behaviour if it inherits a 4 that hangs around long enough for the CGR
> to run it.
>
> On 25 February 2011 01:00, Aliza Panitz <ali...@gm...> wrote:
>> To be more precise:
>>
>> "Until the CGR has a permanent train (a type 5, type 6 or Diesel), its
>> token on the stock market is not adjusted from its starting position
>> for any reason, including sales of shares. Once the CGR acquires its
>> first permanent train, it may no longer borrow a Diesel."
>>
>> So if (for example) the CGR forms with a 5-train and sells it to
>> another company for face value, it cannot borrow a Diesel, and moves
>> backwards normally if it has no train.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:25 AM, Stefan Filonardi <jk...@gm...> wrote:
>>> Hello Phil,
>>>
>>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>>> Datum: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:06:41 +0000
>>>> Von: Phil Davies <de...@gm...>
>>>> An: "Development list for Rails: an 18xx game" <rai...@li...>
>>>> Betreff: [Rails-devel] 1856 Issue
>>>
>>>> Discovered a 'bug' (ish) in 1856 whilst playing a game recently.
>>>> Currently rails checks to see whether the CGR is running a borrowed
>>>> train and if it is then rails forces the CGR to withhold.  The
>>>> situation that occurred in this game was that the CGR was able to run
>>>> a 4T inherited from it's merger corporations, I believe from the rules
>>>> that it must withhold revenues from a 4T until it can buy a permanent
>>>> train (I'm FAR from an expert on '56 though so if someone could
>>>> clarify that would be nice).
>>>
>>> You are right, the information is "hidden" in the section about Dividends within the CGR-Chapter:
>>> "When the CGR has a permanent train, it may, at the discretion of the current president, pay dividends." or
>>>
>>> http:/www.18xx.net/1856/1856f.htm
>>>
>>>> There was a further issue in that I think it was allowed to buy a 4T
>>>> from another corp, something it should not be allowed to do, but I
>>>> haven't looked into that in detail yet.
>>>
>>> Could you check if the Share Value token does move too? (It shouldn't)
>>>
>>> ciao stefan
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [Rails-devel] 1856 Issue

[Phil D. <de...@gm...>]

I'm pretty sure that all works fine although I'll run up a test case
to check it.  The whole process around 'has CGR acquired a permanent
train or not' seems fairly solid, the bit that was missing was the
behaviour if it inherits a 4 that hangs around long enough for the CGR
to run it.

On 25 February 2011 01:00, Aliza Panitz <ali...@gm...> wrote:
> To be more precise:
>
> "Until the CGR has a permanent train (a type 5, type 6 or Diesel), its
> token on the stock market is not adjusted from its starting position
> for any reason, including sales of shares. Once the CGR acquires its
> first permanent train, it may no longer borrow a Diesel."
>
> So if (for example) the CGR forms with a 5-train and sells it to
> another company for face value, it cannot borrow a Diesel, and moves
> backwards normally if it has no train.
>
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:25 AM, Stefan Filonardi <jk...@gm...> wrote:
>> Hello Phil,
>>
>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>> Datum: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:06:41 +0000
>>> Von: Phil Davies <de...@gm...>
>>> An: "Development list for Rails: an 18xx game" <rai...@li...>
>>> Betreff: [Rails-devel] 1856 Issue
>>
>>> Discovered a 'bug' (ish) in 1856 whilst playing a game recently.
>>> Currently rails checks to see whether the CGR is running a borrowed
>>> train and if it is then rails forces the CGR to withhold.  The
>>> situation that occurred in this game was that the CGR was able to run
>>> a 4T inherited from it's merger corporations, I believe from the rules
>>> that it must withhold revenues from a 4T until it can buy a permanent
>>> train (I'm FAR from an expert on '56 though so if someone could
>>> clarify that would be nice).
>>
>> You are right, the information is "hidden" in the section about Dividends within the CGR-Chapter:
>> "When the CGR has a permanent train, it may, at the discretion of the current president, pay dividends." or
>>
>> http:/www.18xx.net/1856/1856f.htm
>>
>>> There was a further issue in that I think it was allowed to buy a 4T
>>> from another corp, something it should not be allowed to do, but I
>>> haven't looked into that in detail yet.
>>
>> Could you check if the Share Value token does move too? (It shouldn't)
>>
>> ciao stefan
>>
>>
>
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