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[Pyobjc-dev] HIServices framework

[Kag G. <gyl...@ya...>]

I am trying to use the functionality of the
Assessibility functions revolving around AXUIElement. 
I have not been able to find this in the pyobjc
libraries ... does it exist?  Is there some other way
to extract information about widgets using pyobjc?

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Re: [Pyobjc-dev] How to debug?

[Zachery B. <zb...@ur...>]

On Jun 30, 2004, at 5:43 PM, Pierre Thibault wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Usually, when I want to debug a Python application, I use JEdit or 
> PyOxyd. But for this I need to start the Python script from the 
> application (JEdit or PyOxyd). How can I do this with a PyObj 
> application? Is there another way to start the debugger?

If you're used to using pdb, you can set a trace point, and then start 
the application from Terminal like so:

~/Applications
zbir@gorilla $ ./ZopeEditManager.app/Contents/MacOS/ZopeEditManager

That will keep the app running in the current tty and let you attach to 
the running instance when it gets to your trace.

That's how I do it, anyway, but I'm a sucker for `import pdb; 
pdb.set_trace()` - I do it all day, every day, with Zope[1].

Zac

[1] Especially in Xemacs shell-mode with a decent python-mode.el - then 
you get to step through with code tracking in a separate buffer...

[Pyobjc-dev] How to debug?

[Pierre T. <p.t...@bi...>]

Hello,

Usually, when I want to debug a Python application, I use JEdit or 
PyOxyd. But for this I need to start the Python script from the 
application (JEdit or PyOxyd). How can I do this with a PyObj 
application? Is there another way to start the debugger?

Regards.

---------------------
Pierre

[Pyobjc-dev] Newbie Question: OpenGLDemo --semi-standalone

[Scott <pyo...@fl...>]

I'm thinking of converting a OpenGL application from pure python
(via PyOpenGL/GLUT) to pyobjc using Cocoa.

For my first step in learning, I would like to make the OpenGLDemo
example into an application that can be distributed. (Panther only.)

I have been unable to come up with a combination of arguments
to build a "semi-standalone" version of OpenGLDemo that works.
(It won't even run locally, let alone on another machine.)
I understand that I will want PyOpenGL bundled with the application,
as it can't be expected on target machines.

Has anybody built a semi-standalone version of OpenGLDemo?

I'm using pyobjc 1.1.

--Scott

[Pyobjc-dev] [ pyobjc-Bugs-981580 ] Tutorial trouble

[SourceForge.net <no...@so...>]

Bugs item #981580, was opened at 2004-06-28 15:23
Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter
You can respond by visiting: 
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=114534&aid=981580&group_id=14534

Category: None
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: s.denning (sdenning)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: Tutorial trouble

Initial Comment:
I realize that tutorial maintenance is probably not real high on the 
priority list but can someone give me pointers to get beyond the 
parts I'm having trouble with?

Specifically, the PyObjC files are not installed in /Library/
Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/lib/python2.3 but 
appear to be in /Library/Python/2.3. 

For step 6 bundlbuilder.py doesn't appear to be included.  Maybe it 
isn't necessary anymore, but what should I do instead? 

This is as far as I've gotten so far.

Thanks,


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[Pyobjc-dev] talkingpanda installer - PyObjC experience

[Bob I. <bo...@re...>]

I'll only plug this once, but one of the things I've been working on 
for a while now is talking panda ( http://talkingpanda.com/ ), a set of 
foreign language phrase books for the version 2 and later firmware 
iPods (anything with buttons above the wheel, including the Mini).  
There's a flash demonstration and an iPod-installable Japanese demo up 
on the site (see the right sidebar) if you want to play before you pay 
:)

The installer is written in about 95% PyObjC, with the rest in ObjC and 
C.  I used the Xcode template to develop it.  I did not use Cocoa 
Bindings as I wanted OS X 10.2 support.  I had to do several things in 
PyObjC that I had not done before, such as creating a NSMatrix 
subclass, and doing AppleEvents asynchronously (via the low level 
interface of an unreleased copy of aeve I have).

For OS X 10.2 support, I did it all by hand.  I had my working 
application for 10.3, then I had it print all of the keys and values 
from sys.modules where the value had a sensible __file__.  I then went 
to an OS X 10.2 machine and installed Python (from the MacPython page) 
and compiled the relevant packages (PyObjC, LaunchServices, 
TECManager).  I then used this dependency list to strip down the 
framework to the bare essentials, and I used:
find . -name "*.so" -exec install_name_tool -change 
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/Python 
@executable_path/../Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/Python {} 
\;

to rewrite the mach-o load commands (as well as install_name_tool -id 
@exec... on the Python dylib, of course).

then I brought this all into my Xcode project and made a copy files 
build phase for the framework.  I had to change main.m to inject the 
PYTHONHOME environment variable to [NSString 
stringWithFormat:@"%@/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3", 
[[NSBundle mainBundle] bundlePath] (written in Mail, selectors may be 
wrong.. I did something slightly different in the code) so that Python 
could find its standard library.

I did notice one bug, AppHelper.runEventLoop() seems to crash if 
installMachInterrupt=True (the default) with a 10.2 PyObjC.  I haven't 
researched the issue, I simply made it false because I didn't need that 
functionality (it's basically to trap SIGINT) since the app was 
otherwise ready.

Developing this installer application gave me several ideas for new 
tools, libraries, and tutorials to write.  One of which is ripping 
bundlebuilder apart into tiny little orthogonal bits, and another is 
making a bdist_pkg for distutils (that PackageManager should use in 
lieu of tarballs).  I'm also thinking that I should put some more work 
into aeve, because it's much better suited for *receiving* and 
*sending* apple events than appscript is, although it is pretty low 
level right now (but FAR FAR nicer than working with AEDesc myself) it 
worked out well for me with no surprises.

-bob

Re: [Pyobjc-dev] List moderator: Please fix the spam on this list

[James E. <ea...@ba...>]

On 22 Jun 2004, at 14:29, b.bum wrote:

> Anyone remember the admin password to the list?

Yes, it's "pineapples"

James

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Re: [Pyobjc-dev] List moderator: Please fix the spam on this list

[Ronald O. <ron...@ma...>]

On 22-jun-04, at 18:26, Ronald Oussoren wrote:

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> On 22-jun-04, at 15:42, Jonathan Wight wrote:
>
>> I don't know who's the moderator of this list but please can you do 
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>> list?
>
> Oops, I'll have a look. My mail.app filter must be working very well, 
> the only spam I see on pyobjc-dev is a couple of russian mails a week.

Both lists now only accept mails from list members. The -checkins lists 
should also accept mail from the svn server, but I haven't tested that 
yet.

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Re: [Pyobjc-dev] Can apps built in Panther run in Jag?

[Bob I. <bo...@re...>]

On Jun 23, 2004, at 2:36 PM, Gary Robinson wrote:

> We have an app we've been developing under Panther with PyObjC 1.1.
>
> I know that there are different version of PyObjC for Jaguar and
> Panther, but those difference only for developers, or will a PyObjC app
> built using the Panther version be unstable or unusuble under panther?

No, it is currently unsupported and very difficult to build an 
application on Panther that works on Jaguar.  It's much easier to have 
a Jaguar machine around and just build the release version from there.  
The build process for Python and PyObjC does not currently support the 
SDKs or MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET very well.

-bob

Re: [Pyobjc-dev] Can apps built in Panther run in Jag?

[b.bum <bb...@ma...>]

On Jun 23, 2004, at 11:36 AM, Gary Robinson wrote:
> We have an app we've been developing under Panther with PyObjC 1.1.
>
> I know that there are different version of PyObjC for Jaguar and
> Panther, but those difference only for developers, or will a PyObjC app
> built using the Panther version be unstable or unusuble under panther?

Unfortunately, the Python builds shipped with Panther and Jaguar are 
incompatible.   The Jaguar build is statically linked while the Panther 
build supports proper modules, etc.

If you don't mind paying the price of a couple of additional megs in 
the app wrapper, bundling a Python build in your app is likely the best 
way to go.

The other issue is one of symbols.  There are some symbols on Panther 
that are not found in the Jaguar frameworks.  This will be problematic. 
   You should be able to build PyObjC on Jaguar and have it "just work" 
on Panther (I believe-- I honestly haven't tested it), but not the 
other way around.

Given the size of PyObjC, shipping a build of PyObjC for each target 
operating system shouldn't be too onerous.

At some point, PyObjC should probably start leveraging the 
multi-platform SDK support that ships with Panther.

b.bum

[Pyobjc-dev] Can apps built in Panther run in Jag?

[Gary R. <gro...@tr...>]

Hi,

We have an app we've been developing under Panther with PyObjC 1.1.

I know that there are different version of PyObjC for Jaguar and 
Panther, but those difference only for developers, or will a PyObjC app 
built using the Panther version be unstable or unusuble under panther?

Thanks,
Gary
 

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Re: [Pyobjc-dev] List moderator: Please fix the spam on this list

[Pierce T.W. I. <pi...@tw...>]

On Jun 22, 2004, at 1:32 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:

>
> On 22-jun-04, at 20:29, b.bum wrote:
>
>> On Jun 22, 2004, at 11:23 AM, Jonathan Wight wrote:
>>> At the very least  non-subscribers should be banned from posting (if 
>>> they haven't been already).
>>
>> Wow! I guess Mail.app's spam filtering is doing a good job.    We 
>> will have to turn off non-subscriber posting.   It hadn't been 
>> enabled because -- for quite a long time -- a lot of people joined 
>> the community by posting a question to the list as a non-subscriber 
>> and then subscriber.
>>
>> But, unfortunately, the !@#$!@#! spammers have screwed up yet another 
>> good thing.
>>
>> *sigh*
>>
>> Anyone remember the admin password to the list?
>
> I've never known it :-(. It's too bad that the mailinglist admin is 
> seperate from the normal administrative accounts.

  BTW, I'm going to chime in that I'm really happy with spambayes 
(spambayes.org), which I'll point out is a python program!

Re: [Pyobjc-dev] List moderator: Please fix the spam on this list

[Ronald O. <ron...@ma...>]

On 22-jun-04, at 20:29, b.bum wrote:

> On Jun 22, 2004, at 11:23 AM, Jonathan Wight wrote:
>> At the very least  non-subscribers should be banned from posting (if 
>> they haven't been already).
>
> Wow! I guess Mail.app's spam filtering is doing a good job.    We will 
> have to turn off non-subscriber posting.   It hadn't been enabled 
> because -- for quite a long time -- a lot of people joined the 
> community by posting a question to the list as a non-subscriber and 
> then subscriber.
>
> But, unfortunately, the !@#$!@#! spammers have screwed up yet another 
> good thing.
>
> *sigh*
>
> Anyone remember the admin password to the list?

I've never known it :-(. It's too bad that the mailinglist admin is 
seperate from the normal administrative accounts.

Ronald
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> b.bum
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Re: [Pyobjc-dev] List moderator: Please fix the spam on this list

[b.bum <bb...@ma...>]

On Jun 22, 2004, at 11:23 AM, Jonathan Wight wrote:
> At the very least  non-subscribers should be banned from posting (if 
> they haven't been already).

Wow! I guess Mail.app's spam filtering is doing a good job.    We will 
have to turn off non-subscriber posting.   It hadn't been enabled 
because -- for quite a long time -- a lot of people joined the 
community by posting a question to the list as a non-subscriber and 
then subscriber.

But, unfortunately, the !@#$!@#! spammers have screwed up yet another 
good thing.

*sigh*

Anyone remember the admin password to the list?

b.bum

Re: [Pyobjc-dev] List moderator: Please fix the spam on this list

[Jonathan W. <jwi...@sp...>]

I keep my spam filter for mailing lists set to the most lenient setting 
because I trust all of the list managers to do a reasonable job 
managing their lists. This mailing list is the only one I subscribe to 
that has serious spam problems (looks like about a 10:1 non-spam to 
spam ratio).

At the very least  non-subscribers should be banned from posting (if 
they haven't been already).

	Jon.

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>> I don't know who's the moderator of this list but please can you do
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Re: [Pyobjc-dev] List moderator: Please fix the spam on this list

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Re: [Pyobjc-dev] List moderator: Please fix the spam on this list

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On Jun 22, 2004, at 12:26 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:

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> On 22-jun-04, at 15:42, Jonathan Wight wrote:
>
>> I don't know who's the moderator of this list but please can you do 
>> something about the tremendous amount of spam getting through on this 
>> list?
>
> Oops, I'll have a look. My mail.app filter must be working very well, 
> the only spam I see on pyobjc-dev is a couple of russian mails a week.

Yeah, the only spam I see from this list post-filters is the one to 
three russian mails a day.  Annoying, but not annoying enough..

-bob

Re: [Pyobjc-dev] List moderator: Please fix the spam on this list

[Ronald O. <ron...@ma...>]

On 22-jun-04, at 15:42, Jonathan Wight wrote:

> I don't know who's the moderator of this list but please can you do 
> something about the tremendous amount of spam getting through on this 
> list?

Oops, I'll have a look. My mail.app filter must be working very well, 
the only spam I see on pyobjc-dev is a couple of russian mails a week.

Ronald
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[Pyobjc-dev] List moderator: Please fix the spam on this list

[Jonathan W. <jwi...@sp...>]

I don't know who's the moderator of this list but please can you do 
something about the tremendous amount of spam getting through on this 
list?

Thanks.

	Jon.

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<tr><td>11 июля 2004 г. Тунис (4****) 8 дней <td>1095 Евро
<tr><td>26 июля 2004г. Италия, о. Сицилия, (4****) 8 дней<td>1767 Евро
<tr><td>7 августа 2004 г. Испания, Коста Дорада, (4****) 8 дней<td>1458 Евро
<tr><td>21 августа 2004г. Италия, Экскурсионный тур по 12ти городам. (3-4****) 8 дней<td>1204 Евро
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<I><B>Прием заявок на участие в семинарах по тел/факсу 916-6377 (многоканальный).</B></I>
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<I><B>Разовый абонемент.</B></I> Стоимость услуги 2.155 рублей.<BR>
В стоимость услуги входит:<BR>
а) <B>Аудиторские консультации</B> в течение 30 дней;<BR>
б) <B>3-месячный абонемент на посещение любых семинаров с 45% скидкой</B>. На семинарах выдается литература и сертификат ИПБ о повышении квалификации **.
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<I><B>Полугодовой абонемент.</B></I> Стоимость услуги - 13.495 рублей.<BR>
В стоимость услуги входит:<BR>
а) <B>Аудиторские консультации до 31 декабря 2004г.</B><BR>
б) <B>Посещение любых семинаров без ограничений</B>, в срок действия абонемента. На семинарах выдается литература и сертификат ИПБ о повышении квалификации.<BR> Регулярно посещая семинары, Вы набираете необходимые 40 часов для продления аттестата ИПБ без дополнительных затрат **.

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<I><B>Годовой абонемент.</B></I> Стоимость услуги - 19.495 рублей.<BR>
В стоимость услуги входит:<BR>
а) <B>Аудиторские консультации в течение 12 месяцев.</B><BR>
б) <B>Посещение любых семинаров без ограничений</B>, в срок действия абонемента. На семинарах выдается литература и сертификат ИПБ о повышении квалификации.<BR> Регулярно посещая семинары в течении года Вы набираете необходимые 40 часов для продления аттестата ИПБ без дополнительных затрат **.
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Все цены фиксированы на срок действия договора. <B>НДС НЕ облагаются</B>.<BR>
**Сертификат ИПБ - только для действительных членов ИПБ РФ.<BR><BR>

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<B>телефон/факс <I>916-6377</I> (многоканальный)</B><BR>
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<I><B>Семинар бухгалтеров.</B></I> <BR>
а) <B>Участие в семинаре.</B> На семинаре выдается литература и сертификат ИПБ о повышении квалификации **.<BR>
б) <B>Аудиторские консультации</B> в течение 30 дней.<BR><BR>
Семинары в мае 2004 года, в рамках темы "Отчет за первое полугодие":<BR><BR>
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<tr><td>29 июня. Строительные организации. Исчисление и уплата налогов.<td>4215 руб.
<tr><td>30 июня. Представительства иностранных фирм.<td>4215 руб.
<tr><td>2 июля. Производство, Услуги. Исчисление и уплата налогов.<td>4215 руб.
<tr><td>5 июля. Торговые организации. Исчисление и уплата налогов.<td>4215 руб.
<tr><td>6 июля. Туристические организации. Исчисление и уплата налогов.<td>4215 руб.
<tr><td>7 июля. Импортно-экспортные операции. Операции с валютой.<td>2220 руб.
<tr><td>7 июля. Бухгалтерский учет. Отчет за первое полугодие.<td>2495 руб.
<tr><td>8 июля. Упрощенная система налогообложения.<td>3555 руб.
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Лекторы: представители Минфина РФ, МНС РФ, ПФР.<BR>
Для постоянных посетителей семинаров предусмотрены скидки.<BR>
<B>Семинары за рубежом</B>, в рамках темы <B>"Новое в бухгалтерском учете и налогообложении"</B>.<BR>Для бухгалтеров, работников финансовых служб предприятий и руководителей.<BR> 
Выдается Сертификат ИПБ. Каждому участнику зарубежного семинара дополнительно - 
30 дней аудиторских консультаций бесплатно и посещение одного семинара в Москве.
Затраты на участие в семинаре относятся на себестоимость. Скидки от 2-ух участников.<BR><BR>

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<tr><td>11 июля 2004 г. Тунис (4****) 8 дней <td>1095 Евро
<tr><td>26 июля 2004г. Италия, о. Сицилия, (4****) 8 дней<td>1767 Евро
<tr><td>7 августа 2004 г. Испания, Коста Дорада, (4****) 8 дней<td>1458 Евро
<tr><td>21 августа 2004г. Италия, Экскурсионный тур по 12ти городам. (3-4****) 8 дней<td>1204 Евро
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<I><B>Прием заявок на участие в семинарах по тел/факсу 916-6377 (многоканальный).</B></I>
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<I><B>Разовый абонемент.</B></I> Стоимость услуги 2.155 рублей.<BR>
В стоимость услуги входит:<BR>
а) <B>Аудиторские консультации</B> в течение 30 дней;<BR>
б) <B>3-месячный абонемент на посещение любых семинаров с 45% скидкой</B>. На семинарах выдается литература и сертификат ИПБ о повышении квалификации **.
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<I><B>Полугодовой абонемент.</B></I> Стоимость услуги - 13.495 рублей.<BR>
В стоимость услуги входит:<BR>
а) <B>Аудиторские консультации до 31 декабря 2004г.</B><BR>
б) <B>Посещение любых семинаров без ограничений</B>, в срок действия абонемента. На семинарах выдается литература и сертификат ИПБ о повышении квалификации.<BR> Регулярно посещая семинары, Вы набираете необходимые 40 часов для продления аттестата ИПБ без дополнительных затрат **.

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<I><B>Годовой абонемент.</B></I> Стоимость услуги - 19.495 рублей.<BR>
В стоимость услуги входит:<BR>
а) <B>Аудиторские консультации в течение 12 месяцев.</B><BR>
б) <B>Посещение любых семинаров без ограничений</B>, в срок действия абонемента. На семинарах выдается литература и сертификат ИПБ о повышении квалификации.<BR> Регулярно посещая семинары в течении года Вы набираете необходимые 40 часов для продления аттестата ИПБ без дополнительных затрат **.
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Все цены фиксированы на срок действия договора. <B>НДС НЕ облагаются</B>.<BR>
**Сертификат ИПБ - только для действительных членов ИПБ РФ.<BR><BR>

<B>Центр образования и консультаций "Кволити"</B>
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Re: [Pyobjc-dev] AppleScriptable PyObjC app tricks?

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On Jun 21, 2004, at 8:50 AM, Jim Tittsler wrote:

> Are there any special tricks to making a PyObjC application
> AppleScriptable?  Any examples I can steal from?

It should be mostly the same as you would do it from Objective C.  I'm  
not sure if anyone has really tried it though, let us know how it works  
out.

I can confirm that the low level stuff does work, by that I mean (which  
I use to handle outgoing apple events asynchronously):

     def applicationDidFinishLaunching_(self, aNotification):
              
NSAppleEventManager.sharedAppleEventManager().setEventHandler_andSelecto 
r_forEventClass_andEventID_(
                 self,
                 'handleAppleEvent:withReplyEvent:',
                 struct.unpack('>i', 'aevt')[0],
                 struct.unpack('>i', 'ansr')[0])

     def handleAppleEvent_withReplyEvent_(self, event, replyEvent):
         pass
     handleAppleEvent_withReplyEvent_ =  
objc.selector(handleAppleEvent_withReplyEvent_, signature='v@:@@')

The caveat is that four character codes look like unsigned integers  
through the bridge, so you'll probably have to do a fair amount of  
struct.pack/unpack as demonstrated above.  Also note that Python's  
Carbon AEDesc is bridged to -[NSAppleEventDescriptor aeDesc], so if you  
want to work with an AEDesc directly (process it with aeve or the like)  
then you should be able to just go at it.

-bob

[Pyobjc-dev] AppleScriptable PyObjC app tricks?

[Jim T. <jw...@On...>]

Are there any special tricks to making a PyObjC application
AppleScriptable?  Any examples I can steal from?