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From: Steve M. <st...@dc...> - 2012-01-26 17:31:18
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You're invited to a Plone sprint to be held March 22nd - 26th in Bodega Bay, California. Please visit the planning page at http://www.coactivate.org/projects/cioppino/project-home if you're interested. If you can make it, add your name to the list at the end of the page. As with the great 2011 sprint, the main focus of this sprint will be work that makes immediate improvements in plone.org. This year, we're going to particularly focus on the documentation section. There will be lots to do for anyone that can write, design, code, edit or work a bug tracker. In short, everyone! |
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From: Dylan J. <dy...@dy...> - 2012-01-17 23:30:33
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On 18/01/2012, at 7:10 AM, "David Glick (GW)" <dav...@gr...> wrote: > > On Jan 17, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Jon Stahl wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Dylan Jay <dy...@dy...> wrote: >>> >>> On 11/01/2012, at 9:06 PM, Mikko Ohtamaa wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Jean Jordaan >>>> <jea...@gm...> wrot= >>>> e: >>>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Dylan Jay <dy...@dy...> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> I think using read-the-docs is great but I disagree that we >>>>>> shouldn't >>>>>> also have an up to date copy on plone.org. >>>> >>>> Please feel free to set up updater. There was no automatic update and >>>> manual update was pain. plone.org docs were outdated all the time >>> >>> I'll try setting up something in the plone.org buildout. >> >> Thanks, Dylan. I agree that we need to have our best docs findable >> via Plone.org. >> > > This concern is the main reason I haven't rushed to delete the existing Dexterity docs on plone.org now that we have a more maintainable version on readthedocs. We obviously do need to deal with that sooner rather than later though so that we don't have 2 out of sync copies of the docs. Options I can think of: > > 1. the funnelweb approach that was used with the collective docs before (what were the limitations with this, Dylan?) It needed to be hooked up to a cron script, probably on the plone.org server itself. The current code reuploaded it on every sync which is a bit nasty for plone's zodb but I can fix that. It takes 10min + to run so would be updated daily. Also we'd need it to run sphinx daily and that involves running code from the collective on the server each day. If its the plone.org server that could be a security problem. Instead I could get it to crawl read the docs but that involves bandwidth each day. > 2. creating something that lets us submit to Plone a list of URLs to be fulltext-indexed with a getURL that goes offsite, and making the sphinx build call this for the set of generated documentation So you mean that docs aren't stored in plone? just indexed in plone and the user redirected. Downside of that someone using google to search and then preferring plone.org results. You'd also need a crawler since the docs are spilt into many urls. > > Other ideas? Some kind of fs view mounted in the plone.org zodb. But I don't know any that will automatically update the catalog when the content changes. > > David > > > ---------- > David Glick > Web Developer > dav...@gr... > 206.286.1235x32 > > Groundwire Consulting is here. > > http://groundwire.org/about/FAQ-gw-consulting > > |
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From: Jon S. <jon...@gm...> - 2012-01-17 18:52:51
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On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Dylan Jay <dy...@dy...> wrote: > > On 11/01/2012, at 9:06 PM, Mikko Ohtamaa wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Jean Jordaan >> <jea...@gm...> wrot= >> e: >>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Dylan Jay <dy...@dy...> >>> wrote: >>>> I think using read-the-docs is great but I disagree that we >>>> shouldn't >>>> also have an up to date copy on plone.org. >> >> Please feel free to set up updater. There was no automatic update and >> manual update was pain. plone.org docs were outdated all the time > > I'll try setting up something in the plone.org buildout. Thanks, Dylan. I agree that we need to have our best docs findable via Plone.org. :jon |
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From: Dylan J. <dy...@dy...> - 2012-01-11 11:03:31
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On 11/01/2012, at 9:06 PM, Mikko Ohtamaa wrote: > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Jean Jordaan > <jea...@gm...> wrot= > e: >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Dylan Jay <dy...@dy...> >> wrote: >>> I think using read-the-docs is great but I disagree that we >>> shouldn't >>> also have an up to date copy on plone.org. > > Please feel free to set up updater. There was no automatic update and > manual update was pain. plone.org docs were outdated all the time I'll try setting up something in the plone.org buildout. |
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From: Mikko O. <mik...@re...> - 2012-01-11 10:32:08
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On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Jean Jordaan <jea...@gm...> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Dylan Jay <dy...@dy...> wrote: >> I think using read-the-docs is great but I disagree that we shouldn't >> also have an up to date copy on plone.org. Please feel free to set up updater. There was no automatic update and manual update was pain. plone.org docs were outdated all the time. For searching it's better than docs are in one place Google finds them. -Mikko > > I agree that we should also have an up to date copy on plone.org. > > It's just plain weird that the documentation for Plone is not on plone.org. > Is this the case for any other project of similar stature? > > -- > jean . .. .... //\\\oo///\\ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex > infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to > virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual > desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure > costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox > _______________________________________________ > Plone-docs mailing list > Plo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-docs -- Mikko Ohtamaa http://opensourcehacker.com http://twitter.com/moo9000 |
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From: Jean J. <jea...@gm...> - 2012-01-11 07:27:07
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On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Dylan Jay <dy...@dy...> wrote: > I think using read-the-docs is great but I disagree that we shouldn't > also have an up to date copy on plone.org. I agree that we should also have an up to date copy on plone.org. It's just plain weird that the documentation for Plone is not on plone.org. Is this the case for any other project of similar stature? -- jean . .. .... //\\\oo///\\ |
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From: Dylan J. <dy...@dy...> - 2012-01-11 06:32:30
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Hi, I noticed mikko removed the conversion code from collective-docs that could upload it to plone.org. I think using read-the-docs is great but I disagree that we shouldn't also have an up to date copy on plone.org. The reason being that newbies might use plone.org search to find documentation or a google search of site:plone.org to try and find answers. Other than the technical issue of how to keep the docs in sync inside plone, is there any reason not to have this manual duplicated on plone.org? --- Dylan Jay Technical Solutions Manager PretaWeb: Multisite Performance Support P: +612 80819071 | M: +61421477460 | twitter.com/djay75 | linkedin.com/ in/djay75 |
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From: Bruno B. <bsb...@gm...> - 2012-01-03 11:13:36
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Hi, The link on subsection 'How' this documentation is broken [1]. The item two (Simple SQL CRUD With PloneFormGen) redirects for [2], when the correct is [3]. Thanks for attention, sorry my english, I'm brazilian =) Regards, [1] http://plone.org/products/ploneformgen/documentation/tutorial/creating-a-registration-form/the-purpose [2] http://plone.org/products/ploneformgen/documentation/sql-crud [3] http://plone.org/products/ploneformgen/documentation/tutorial/sql-crud -- Bruno Barbosa Web Developer and Free Software Enthusiast http://brunobarbosa.com.br/ http://twitter.com/bruninbsb |
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From: Martin A. <opt...@gm...> - 2011-12-31 18:39:51
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Hi, Quick note: http://dev.plone.org/wiki/ContributeCollective is pretty out of date - no mention of GitHub - the link to open a ticket to get commit access results in a 404 response Martin |
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From: Ross P. <me...@rp...> - 2011-12-13 19:45:21
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http://plone.org/documentation/kb/add-new-roles-to-the-sharing-page This page demonstrates how to add a role to the sharing page using the Manager role as example. A client of mine just did that and was about to deploy to production when I caught it. It seems like a really bad idea to make Manager something that can be delegated TTW. Also, this page is out of date since you can use GS to add new roles and add them to the sharing tab. It seems like the page above should be deprecated in favor of the one describing how to use GS which also doesn't use Manager as an example role: http://plone.org/documentation/manual/developer-manual/generic-setup/reference/sharing-ref Thoughts? Ross |
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From: Ross P. <me...@rp...> - 2011-12-13 19:38:38
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http://plone.org/documentation/kb/add-new-roles-to-the-sharing-page This page demonstrates how to add a role to the sharing page using the Manager role as example. A client of mine just did that and was about to deploy to production when I caught it. It seems like a really bad idea to make Manager something that can be delegated TTW. Also, this page is out of date since you can use GS to add new roles and add them to the sharing tab. It seems like the page above should be deprecated in favor of the one describing how to use GS which also doesn't use Manager as an example role: http://plone.org/documentation/manual/developer-manual/generic-setup/reference/sharing-ref Thoughts? Ross |
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From: Alex C. <ac...@ac...> - 2011-11-29 20:56:41
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Hi, On 11/29/11 1:25 PM, Alan Runyan wrote: > i recommend it being redirected to the readthedocs page! > since that is looking really good and re-builds. > > i also have issues with broken portlets on plone.org that i reported. > > and lastly i have a marketing question that requires talking with > someone involved in plone.org > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Mikko Ohtamaa > <mik...@re...> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> What it would require to take down api.plone.org? Currently the latest "api" >> is 3.0. >> >> This site is misleading people (being found in Google and stuff): >> >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8311887/api-for-plone-4 I bring this up every once in a while, so I'm +1. Please open a ticket if there is not one already. I'm planning to a bunch of work by the end of the year. And please pimp my chip-in! http://blog.aclark.net/2011/11/29/plone-org-maintenance/ I don't care if I don't hit the mark, but it would be great if we could get some Plone companies to kick in to make sure this important stuff gets done (and that I can actually schedule it on my calendar.) Alex >> >> -Mikko >> >> ----- >> >> Follow me in Twitter >> >> >> >> Read my blog >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://plone.293351.n2.nabble.com/Taking-down-api-plone-org-tp7043050p7043050.html >> Sent from the Documentation Team mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure >> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, >> security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this >> data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d >> _______________________________________________ >> Plone-docs mailing list >> Plo...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-docs > > > -- Alex Clark · http://pythonpackages.com |
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From: Alan R. <ru...@gm...> - 2011-11-29 18:26:20
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i recommend it being redirected to the readthedocs page! since that is looking really good and re-builds. i also have issues with broken portlets on plone.org that i reported. and lastly i have a marketing question that requires talking with someone involved in plone.org On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Mikko Ohtamaa <mik...@re...> wrote: > Hi, > > What it would require to take down api.plone.org? Currently the latest "api" > is 3.0. > > This site is misleading people (being found in Google and stuff): > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8311887/api-for-plone-4 > > -Mikko > > ----- > > Follow me in Twitter > > > > Read my blog > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://plone.293351.n2.nabble.com/Taking-down-api-plone-org-tp7043050p7043050.html > Sent from the Documentation Team mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure > contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, > security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this > data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d > _______________________________________________ > Plone-docs mailing list > Plo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-docs -- Alan Runyan Office +17135305244 | Skype/Twitter @runyaga President of Enfold Systems | http://www.enfoldsystems.com/ Co-founder of the Plone CMS | Free Plone site in less than 10 seconds - htttp://ploud.com/ |
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From: Mikko O. <mik...@re...> - 2011-11-29 14:46:45
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Hi, What it would require to take down api.plone.org? Currently the latest "api" is 3.0. This site is misleading people (being found in Google and stuff): http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8311887/api-for-plone-4 -Mikko ----- Follow me in Twitter Read my blog -- View this message in context: http://plone.293351.n2.nabble.com/Taking-down-api-plone-org-tp7043050p7043050.html Sent from the Documentation Team mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
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From: Jean J. <jea...@gm...> - 2011-11-16 07:35:16
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> I would also like to continue writing docs with this style and tone You're most welcome to hack on https://github.com/collective/collective.developermanual too. -- jean . .. .... //\\\oo///\\ |
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From: Tom K. <sp...@ka...> - 2011-11-15 22:09:25
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After an extended absence from Plone (well, I mostly missed the buildout craze), I had trouble sorting out lots of out of date and conflicting documentation to even get Plone running without using the Unified Installer. So since the Cioppino Sprint, I've been honing this document with lots of help from the community (esp. Alex Clark), and I'd finally like to submit it for review from this community. I would love to get a link to the final version of this document prominently on Plone.org and deprecate some other documentation that's been superseded. I would also like to continue writing docs with this style and tone as I feel they work well for people trying to approach Plone. I can tell you that I'm a huge fan of Plone, have used, integrated, and recommended Plone for years, and even I was turned off by the lack of clear direction in this very basic area. So without further ado, I submit this document for review. Please use gDocs' commenting feature for suggestions or comments, edit directly if you find glaring typos or factual errors. http://j.mp/rxHLst Next up: Making Robust Forms w/Plone, QuickStart -- ~Spanky |
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From: Jean J. <jea...@gm...> - 2011-11-01 07:10:20
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Hi Larry > I'd like to volunteer to help with the Plone docs. Maybe also worth having a look at: https://github.com/collective/collective.developermanual You can edit it if you're a member of the 'collective' organization on github, or you can fork it and log pull requests. -- jean . .. .... //\\\oo///\\ |
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From: Alan R. <ru...@gm...> - 2011-10-25 18:05:26
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I do not have time to figure out the best way. It appears to be the easiest thing would be to generate a file after installation that says "README-AFTER-INSTALL.txt" which says the port number and login/password. does that fix the immediate needs? On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Mikko Ohtamaa <mik...@re...> wrote: >>> I can run Plone afterwards but I cannot get further than the ‘Create a >>> new Plone site’ option as that’s asking me for a Username and Password >>> which I’ve not been given the chance to set up. >>> >>> Likewise, there is reference in the instructions to a Plone Windows >>> Controller which should be setup with the above installer – I get >>> nothing of the sort. There isn’t a Plone group in my Windows menus at all. > > Plone 4.1 revamped Windows installer and feedback for the new > installer is welcome. The new installer is open source now and this > should make it more easier to maintain in the future, but currently > unfortunatelty has some serious regression regarding accessibility. > > Please report all issues here (plone.org username needed) and also > find the documentation regarding the installer: > > http://dev.plone.org/ticket/12301 > > -Mikko > > -- > Mikko Ohtamaa > http://twitter.com/moo9000 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the > demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. > Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn > about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Plone-docs mailing list > Plo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-docs > |
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From: Alan R. <ru...@gm...> - 2011-10-25 18:01:36
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mikko, you cool with that? happy? On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Larry Pitcher <unc...@in...> wrote: > On 10/24/2011 6:11 PM, Alan Runyan wrote: >> >> please roll >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/19-o6yYJWuvw7eyUiLs_b8br4C-Kb8RcyHcQSIf_4Pb4/edit?hl=en_US >> into your document as well. >> >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Larry Pitcher<unc...@in...> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Could someone please check my work on >>> >>> http://plone.org/documentation/manual/installing-plone/installing-on-windows >>> >>> I'd appreciate it, >>> >>> -- >>> Larry Pitcher >>> Catapult Solutions >>> >>> Web: www.catapultsolutions.net >>> Email: lar...@gm... >>> Skype: larry.pitcher >>> Office: 509.849.2660 >>> Mobil: 509.629.1376 >>> > Alan and Mikko, > > Thanks for your suggestions. I've made the changes. I left the article from > Google Docs as a separate section since it gives more details than most new > Plone users would need. > > Hope you like it, > > -- > Larry Pitcher > Catapult Solutions > > Web: www.catapultsolutions.net > Email: lar...@gm... > Skype: larry.pitcher > Office: 509.849.2660 > Mobil: 509.629.1376 > |
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From: Larry P. <unc...@in...> - 2011-10-25 02:40:38
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On 10/24/2011 6:11 PM, Alan Runyan wrote: > please roll https://docs.google.com/document/d/19-o6yYJWuvw7eyUiLs_b8br4C-Kb8RcyHcQSIf_4Pb4/edit?hl=en_US > into your document as well. > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Larry Pitcher<unc...@in...> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Could someone please check my work on >> http://plone.org/documentation/manual/installing-plone/installing-on-windows >> >> I'd appreciate it, >> >> -- >> Larry Pitcher >> Catapult Solutions >> >> Web: www.catapultsolutions.net >> Email: lar...@gm... >> Skype: larry.pitcher >> Office: 509.849.2660 >> Mobil: 509.629.1376 >> Alan and Mikko, Thanks for your suggestions. I've made the changes. I left the article from Google Docs as a separate section since it gives more details than most new Plone users would need. Hope you like it, -- Larry Pitcher Catapult Solutions Web: www.catapultsolutions.net Email: lar...@gm... Skype: larry.pitcher Office: 509.849.2660 Mobil: 509.629.1376 |
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From: Alan R. <ru...@gm...> - 2011-10-25 01:11:57
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please roll https://docs.google.com/document/d/19-o6yYJWuvw7eyUiLs_b8br4C-Kb8RcyHcQSIf_4Pb4/edit?hl=en_US into your document as well. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Larry Pitcher <unc...@in...> wrote: > Hi all, > > Could someone please check my work on > http://plone.org/documentation/manual/installing-plone/installing-on-windows > > I'd appreciate it, > > -- > Larry Pitcher > Catapult Solutions > > Web: www.catapultsolutions.net > Email: lar...@gm... > Skype: larry.pitcher > Office: 509.849.2660 > Mobil: 509.629.1376 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the > demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. > Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn > about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Plone-docs mailing list > Plo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-docs > |
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From: Larry P. <unc...@in...> - 2011-10-25 00:40:56
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Hi all, Could someone please check my work on http://plone.org/documentation/manual/installing-plone/installing-on-windows I'd appreciate it, -- Larry Pitcher Catapult Solutions Web: www.catapultsolutions.net Email: lar...@gm... Skype: larry.pitcher Office: 509.849.2660 Mobil: 509.629.1376 |
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From: Larry P. <unc...@in...> - 2011-10-24 22:16:04
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On 10/24/2011 3:10 PM, David Glick wrote: > On 10/24/11 3:08 PM, Larry Pitcher wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Sorry about forgetting that important detail :-) >> >> My username is unclelarry. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Larry Pitcher >> > Okay, you're in the Doc team group. Let me know if you still have > trouble accessing the doc to edit. > cheers, > David > > > ---------- > David Glick > Web Developer > dav...@gr... > 206.286.1235x32 > > Groundwire Consulting is here. > > http://groundwire.org/about/FAQ-gw-consulting > > > Thanks David - that did the trick! -- Larry Pitcher Catapult Solutions Web: www.catapultsolutions.net Email: lar...@gm... Skype: larry.pitcher Office: 509.849.2660 Mobil: 509.629.1376 |
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From: Mikko O. <mik...@re...> - 2011-10-24 22:15:10
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>> > Okay, you're in the Doc team group. Let me know if you still have trouble > accessing the doc to edit. > cheers, > David Just to note: sometimes I have got permission errors with docs, but usually I have been managed to workaround these by retracthing and republishing the docs. So I suggest save your changes by copy-pasting before hitting the Save for the first time! -Mikko > > > ---------- > David Glick > Web Developer > dav...@gr... > 206.286.1235x32 > > Groundwire Consulting is here. > > http://groundwire.org/about/FAQ-gw-consulting > > > -- Mikko Ohtamaa http://opensourcehacker.com http://twitter.com/moo9000 |
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From: Larry P. <unc...@in...> - 2011-10-24 22:08:39
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Hi, Sorry about forgetting that important detail :-) My username is unclelarry. Thanks, Larry Pitcher On 10/24/2011 3:05 PM, Mikko Ohtamaa wrote: > Hi Larry, > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Larry Pitcher<unc...@in...> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to volunteer to help with the Plone docs. I can update the >> "Installing on Windows" >> (http://plone.org/documentation/manual/installing-plone/installing-on-windows) >> page, since I've just installed the new Plone-4.1.2 on Windows. >> >> If someone could give me the appropriate permissions that would be great. > > What's your plone.org username? > >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> Larry Pitcher >> Catapult Solutions >> >> Web: www.catapultsolutions.net >> Email: lar...@gm... >> Skype: larry.pitcher >> Office: 509.849.2660 >> Mobil: 509.629.1376 >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the >> demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. >> Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn >> about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Plone-docs mailing list >> Plo...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-docs >> > > > -- Larry Pitcher Catapult Solutions Web: www.catapultsolutions.net Email: lar...@gm... Skype: larry.pitcher Office: 509.849.2660 Mobil: 509.629.1376 |
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