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Re: Having trouble accessing "Pipmak Resources"

[James W. <jfc...@ya...>]

Thanks so much! That worked.
 
Thanks again,
  James

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Subject: Re: Having trouble accessing "Pipmak Resources"
To: pip...@li...
Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 5:31 AM





jfcwilson wrote:
> 
> ... 
> Anyone know how to save a Zip file without the extension? I'm running XP,
> which doesn't actually display the extension, as far as I can
> tell.....Does anyone understand everything I just typed? I hope so. :)
> It's rather confusing, even to me, and I wrote it!
>  
> Thanks,
>   James
> 
James, you got in the pipmak wiki on the page :
http://pipmak.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/MSVC8_Build#Deployment:_Prepare_package_for_pipmak

Pipmak Resources        zip the contents of D:\Projects\pipmak-SVN\resources
                            (go inside the folder, select all and select add
to resources.zip)
                            rename resources.zip into "Pipmak Resources"

Val

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Re: Having trouble accessing "Pipmak Resources"

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jfcwilson wrote:
> 
> ... 
> Anyone know how to save a Zip file without the extension? I'm running XP,
> which doesn't actually display the extension, as far as I can
> tell.....Does anyone understand everything I just typed? I hope so. :)
> It's rather confusing, even to me, and I wrote it!
>  
> Thanks,
>   James
> 
James, you got in the pipmak wiki on the page :
http://pipmak.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/MSVC8_Build#Deployment:_Prepare_package_for_pipmak

Pipmak Resources        zip the contents of D:\Projects\pipmak-SVN\resources
                            (go inside the folder, select all and select add
to resources.zip)
                            rename resources.zip into "Pipmak Resources"

Val

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Re: Having trouble accessing "Pipmak Resources"

[NigeC <nig...@gm...>]

To see the extension...
on the top bar of the window click tools/ folder options.. under "view"
theres a box to hide file extensions, un check that
I haven't managed to re archive the resource folder yet, 7zip won't do it :/

jfcwilson wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> Thanks, everyone. I can now acsess Pipmak Resources.zip. However, I appear
> to have another problem. I wanted to access pipmak resources.zip so that I
> could edit defaults.lua(to be exact, I wanted to remove or comment the
> onkeydown function concerned with the esc key, so that I could define it
> in my own game files as going to my own main menu.) I did this
> secessfully, and saved the lua file. Then I took the previously extracted
> files(with the edited defaults.lua) and put them into a Zip file, and
> replaced the previous pipmak resources.zip with it. When I started my
> project up, I got an error message that said: "Coulden't find "Pipmak
> Resources.zip". I'm assuming this is because the file has the Zip
> extension, so I went to remove it, but I couldn't, because the extension
> wasn't there.
> I also couldn't remove the extension on the original pipmak resources.zip. 
> Anyone know how to save a Zip file without the extension? I'm running XP,
> which doesn't actually display the extension, as far as I can
> tell.....Does anyone understand everything I just typed? I hope so. :)
> It's rather confusing, even to me, and I wrote it!
>  
> Thanks,
>   James
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> 
> 
> From: NigeC <nig...@gm...>
> Subject: Re: Having trouble accessing "Pipmak Resources"
> To: pip...@li...
> Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 6:07 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> WinRar and 7zip work fine for me, winrar you don't even need to add the
> zip
> extension, just right click and extract to..
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Re: Having trouble accessing "Pipmak Resources"

[James W. <jfc...@ya...>]

Hi all,
 
Thanks, everyone. I can now acsess Pipmak Resources.zip. However, I appear to have another problem. I wanted to access pipmak resources.zip so that I could edit defaults.lua(to be exact, I wanted to remove or comment the onkeydown function concerned with the esc key, so that I could define it in my own game files as going to my own main menu.) I did this secessfully, and saved the lua file. Then I took the previously extracted files(with the edited defaults.lua) and put them into a Zip file, and replaced the previous pipmak resources.zip with it. When I started my project up, I got an error message that said: "Coulden't find "Pipmak Resources.zip". I'm assuming this is because the file has the Zip extension, so I went to remove it, but I couldn't, because the extension wasn't there.
I also couldn't remove the extension on the original pipmak resources.zip. 
Anyone know how to save a Zip file without the extension? I'm running XP, which doesn't actually display the extension, as far as I can tell.....Does anyone understand everything I just typed? I hope so. :) It's rather confusing, even to me, and I wrote it!
 
Thanks,
  James
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From: NigeC <nig...@gm...>
Subject: Re: Having trouble accessing "Pipmak Resources"
To: pip...@li...
Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 6:07 PM




WinRar and 7zip work fine for me, winrar you don't even need to add the zip
extension, just right click and extract to..

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Re: Having trouble accessing "Pipmak Resources"

[NigeC <nig...@gm...>]

WinRar and 7zip work fine for me, winrar you don't even need to add the zip
extension, just right click and extract to..

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Re: Having trouble accessing "Pipmak Resources"

[Gwythion <chr...@gm...>]

< Have any 
other Windows users tried the utilities James lists?

  -Christian>

Not those, but I've tried in Enzip (after adding a .zip extension);

It works fine with that.
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Re: Having trouble accessing "Pipmak Resources"

[James W. <jfc...@ya...>]

Hi all,
 
I'm now able to extract the contents to a folder, but when I go into the folder and scroll down, it reboots as soon as it get a few hundred pixels down...It must be a problem on my end, the PC has been acting odd recently. I've been planning to re-install XP because of this. Once I've done so, and restored my backed-up data, I'll let you guys know how it is then.
 
Thanks,
   James

--- On Mon, 10/5/09, Christian Walther <cwa...@gm...> wrote:


From: Christian Walther <cwa...@gm...>
Subject: Re: Having trouble accessing "Pipmak Resources"
To: pip...@li...
Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 4:27 AM


James Wilson wrote:
> I'm having trouble accessing the "Pipmak Resources.zip" file. When I 
> double click on it, it doesn't recingnize it as a ZIP file for some 
> reason

Have you added the ".zip" filename extension? Windows only recognizes 
file types by extension, and since the "Pipmak Resources" file, as 
shipped, doesn't have an extension (deliberately), Windows doesn't know 
what to do with it.

> and so I specify a ZIP utility to open it(I've tried Win-ZIP, 
> 7-ZIP, and UltimateZip). When I do, the computer spontanusly reboots.

That sounds like a bug in your ZIP utilities (they shouldn't crash even 
when you throw invalid files at them), or possibly the way Windows 
launches them, or some general Windows confusion (file system corruption 
maybe?). Have you tried opening the file from within the program, 
instead of double-clicking in Windows Explorer? I have no trouble 
opening the Pipmak Resources file shipped in pipmak-0.2.7-windows.zip 
using Archive Utility, The Unarchiver, and Info-ZIP unzip here, so the 
file seems to be OK. If Pipmak can still use it, it can't be too 
severely damaged anyway, but have you tried re-downloading it? Have any 
other Windows users tried the utilities James lists?

  -Christian


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Re: Having trouble accessing "Pipmak Resources"

[Christian W. <cwa...@gm...>]

James Wilson wrote:
> I'm having trouble accessing the "Pipmak Resources.zip" file. When I 
> double click on it, it doesn't recingnize it as a ZIP file for some 
> reason

Have you added the ".zip" filename extension? Windows only recognizes 
file types by extension, and since the "Pipmak Resources" file, as 
shipped, doesn't have an extension (deliberately), Windows doesn't know 
what to do with it.

> and so I specify a ZIP utility to open it(I've tried Win-ZIP, 
> 7-ZIP, and UltimateZip). When I do, the computer spontanusly reboots.

That sounds like a bug in your ZIP utilities (they shouldn't crash even 
when you throw invalid files at them), or possibly the way Windows 
launches them, or some general Windows confusion (file system corruption 
maybe?). Have you tried opening the file from within the program, 
instead of double-clicking in Windows Explorer? I have no trouble 
opening the Pipmak Resources file shipped in pipmak-0.2.7-windows.zip 
using Archive Utility, The Unarchiver, and Info-ZIP unzip here, so the 
file seems to be OK. If Pipmak can still use it, it can't be too 
severely damaged anyway, but have you tried re-downloading it? Have any 
other Windows users tried the utilities James lists?

  -Christian

Having trouble accessing "Pipmak Resources"

[James W. <jfc...@ya...>]

Hi all,
 
I'm having trouble accessing the "Pipmak Resources.zip" file. When I double click on it, it doesn't recingnize it as a ZIP file for some reason, and so I specify a ZIP utility to open it(I've tried Win-ZIP, 7-ZIP, and UltimateZip). When I do, the computer spontanusly reboots.
Any ideas?
 
Thanks,
  James

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Re: Playing an image sequence in reverse

[James W. <jfc...@ya...>]

Yes, this was only a test for general animation. The actual applied use is to make it loop, even when the ending and beginning do not match. E.g., I'd start the animation going forward, then backwards, and so on. Handy for things you don't have much control over when animating. So I just slapped together a test project, using renders form another project I'm involved in, Ages of Ilathid.
 
Thanks again,
  James

--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Urs Holzer <ur...@an...> wrote:


From: Urs Holzer <ur...@an...>
Subject: Re: Playing an image sequence in reverse
To: pip...@li...
Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 1:58 PM


James Wilson wrote:
> Thanks! That worked perfectly. Thanks also for being patient with me.

Good.

By the way, if you activate the animation like that, then you have to 
make sure that it is not activated twice. Try clicking multiple times at 
the image to see what happens. If my guess is correct, the sequence will 
run twice as fast (if your computer can keep up with the pace) after you 
click on it the second time.
In other words: You have to make sure that the animation can not be 
activated again while it is already running.

However, if I remember correctly, the animation in linking books in Myst 
starts immediately after opening the book. In other words, the animation 
is activated automatically and not by the user. If the same is true for 
your linking books, you don't have the problem I described above.

And anyway, don't hesitate to ask more questions. We are happy to answer 
them.

Greetings
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Re: Playing an image sequence in reverse

[Urs H. <ur...@an...>]

James Wilson wrote:
> Thanks! That worked perfectly. Thanks also for being patient with me.

Good.

By the way, if you activate the animation like that, then you have to 
make sure that it is not activated twice. Try clicking multiple times at 
the image to see what happens. If my guess is correct, the sequence will 
run twice as fast (if your computer can keep up with the pace) after you 
click on it the second time.
In other words: You have to make sure that the animation can not be 
activated again while it is already running.

However, if I remember correctly, the animation in linking books in Myst 
starts immediately after opening the book. In other words, the animation 
is activated automatically and not by the user. If the same is true for 
your linking books, you don't have the problem I described above.

And anyway, don't hesitate to ask more questions. We are happy to answer 
them.

Greetings
Urs

Re: Playing an image sequence in reverse

[James W. <jfc...@ya...>]

Thanks! That worked perfectly. Thanks also for being patient with me.
 
Thanks again,
   James

--- On Thu, 10/1/09, Urs Holzer <ur...@an...> wrote:


From: Urs Holzer <ur...@an...>
Subject: Re: Playing an image sequence in reverse
To: pip...@li...
Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 6:47 AM


James Wilson wrote:
> Thanks, I think this last little problem is my fault:
> I click on the hotspot and nothing happens. I think it's because I closed
> "hotspot" incorrectly. What do you think? Sorry to drag this out.

Sorry, this is my fault. The line
if animpos < 0 then animpos = 100 end
only makes sure that animpos gets back to 100 once it reaches -1. I forgot
to insert a line that actually decreases animpos by 1. So this should work
now:

hotspot {
  onmousedown = function()
  pipmak.schedule(
    0.04,
    function()
      animpos = animpos - 1
      if animpos < 0 then animpos = 100 end
      an_linkingBook:setimage ("an_linkingBook/an_linkingBook_"  ..  animpos
..".jpg") 
      return 0.04
    end
  )
end
}



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Re: Playing an image sequence in reverse

[Urs H. <ur...@an...>]

James Wilson wrote:
> Thanks, I think this last little problem is my fault:
> I click on the hotspot and nothing happens. I think it's because I closed
> "hotspot" incorrectly. What do you think? Sorry to drag this out.

Sorry, this is my fault. The line
if animpos < 0 then animpos = 100 end
only makes sure that animpos gets back to 100 once it reaches -1. I forgot
to insert a line that actually decreases animpos by 1. So this should work
now:

hotspot {
  onmousedown = function()
  pipmak.schedule(
    0.04,
    function()
      animpos = animpos - 1
      if animpos < 0 then animpos = 100 end
      an_linkingBook:setimage ("an_linkingBook/an_linkingBook_"  ..  animpos
..".jpg") 
      return 0.04
    end
  )
end
}

Re: Playing an image sequence in reverse

[James W. <jfc...@ya...>]

Thanks, I think this last little problem is my fault: 
I click on the hotspot and nothing happens. I think it's because I closed "hotspot" incorrectly. What do you think? Sorry to drag this out.
 
CODE************************
 
hotspot {
  onmousedown = function()
    pipmak.schedule(
    0.04,
     function()
      if animpos < 0 then animpos = 100 end
       an_linkingBook:setimage ("an_linkingBook/an_linkingBook_"  ..  animpos ..".jpg") 
       return 0.04
       end
      )
  end
}

END CODE********************
 
Thanks, 
  James
--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Urs Holzer <ur...@an...> wrote:


From: Urs Holzer <ur...@an...>
Subject: Re: Playing an image sequence in reverse
To: pip...@li...
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 9:33 AM


James Wilson wrote:
> However, I still got the same output when I used this, Pipmak tried to
> find "an_anim_-1" and so on.


pipmak.schedule runs the function you give it as an argument after the given
time. So, what is run again and again is only the function() below, not the
whole code of onmousedown of the hotspot. So the if..then I gave you in my
previous post has to be placed in the function() below:

> pipmak.schedule(
> 0.04,
> function()
> animpos = math.mod(animpos - 1, 100)
> an_linkingBook:setimage ("an_linkingBook/an_linkingBook_"  .. animpos ..
> ".jpg") return 0.04
> end
> )

Just change this to

pipmak.schedule(
0.04,
function()
  if animpos < 0 then animpos = 100 end
  an_linkingBook:setimage ("an_linkingBook/an_linkingBook_"  ..    
  animpos ..".jpg") 
  return 0.04
end
)

or similar. Now it loops automatically. I hope this is what you want. Then
you also don't need the if..then..else in the onmousedown function.

Greetings
Urs


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Re: Playing an image sequence in reverse

[Urs H. <ur...@an...>]

James Wilson wrote:
> However, I still got the same output when I used this, Pipmak tried to
> find "an_anim_-1" and so on.


pipmak.schedule runs the function you give it as an argument after the given
time. So, what is run again and again is only the function() below, not the
whole code of onmousedown of the hotspot. So the if..then I gave you in my
previous post has to be placed in the function() below:

> pipmak.schedule(
> 0.04,
> function()
> animpos = math.mod(animpos - 1, 100)
> an_linkingBook:setimage ("an_linkingBook/an_linkingBook_"  .. animpos ..
> ".jpg") return 0.04
> end
> )

Just change this to

pipmak.schedule(
0.04,
function()
  if animpos < 0 then animpos = 100 end
  an_linkingBook:setimage ("an_linkingBook/an_linkingBook_"  ..    
  animpos ..".jpg") 
  return 0.04
end
)

or similar. Now it loops automatically. I hope this is what you want. Then
you also don't need the if..then..else in the onmousedown function.

Greetings
Urs

Re: Playing an image sequence in reverse

[James W. <jfc...@ya...>]

Thanks!
However, I still got the same output when I used this, Pipmak tried to find "an_anim_-1" and so on.
 
Here's my new code:
 
CODE*****************************************************************
 
cubic { "dummy1024.png", "dummy.png","dummy.png", "dummy.png", "dummy.png", "dummy.png"  }

local an_linkingBook = patch {face=1, x = 0, y = 0, image = "an_linkingBook/an_linkingBook_0.jpg" }
local animpos = 100

hotspotmap "hotspotmap.png"

hotspot {
  onmousedown = function()
    if animpos == 0 then 
      animpos = 100 
    else
      pipmak.schedule(
   0.04,
   function()
           animpos = math.mod(animpos - 1, 100) 
    an_linkingBook:setimage ("an_linkingBook/an_linkingBook_"  .. animpos .. ".jpg")
                                return 0.04
                        end
                )
      end
  end
}

CODE*****************************************************************
 
Does anyone see the problem? I sure can't.
 
Thanks,
  James
--- On Sun, 9/27/09, Urs Holzer <ur...@an...> wrote:


From: Urs Holzer <ur...@an...>
Subject: Re: Playing an image sequence in reverse
To: pip...@li...
Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 5:59 AM


Hi

> I'm trying to run a JPEG image sequence in reverse order, but am
> running into problems:
> 
> Code:
> [...]
> animpos = math.mod(animpos - 1, 101)
> [...]

I guess this line is the problem. According to the Lua 5.0 reference, 
math.mod just uses the mod operator from ANSI C. If I remember 
correctly, ANSI C does define the result of it on a negative number as 
implementation specific, so, depending on the plattform the software 
runs on, math.mod(-1, 101) could be -1 or 100.

By replacing the above line with
if animpos < 0 then animpos = 100 end
should give what you want.

However, because of laziness, I have not tested it!

Greetings
Urs



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Re: Playing an image sequence in reverse

[Urs H. <ur...@an...>]

Hi

> I'm trying to run a JPEG image sequence in reverse order, but am
> running into problems:
> 
> Code:
> [...]
> animpos = math.mod(animpos - 1, 101)
> [...]

I guess this line is the problem. According to the Lua 5.0 reference, 
math.mod just uses the mod operator from ANSI C. If I remember 
correctly, ANSI C does define the result of it on a negative number as 
implementation specific, so, depending on the plattform the software 
runs on, math.mod(-1, 101) could be -1 or 100.

By replacing the above line with
if animpos < 0 then animpos = 100 end
should give what you want.

However, because of laziness, I have not tested it!

Greetings
Urs

Storyboard animation

[James W. <jfc...@ya...>]

Hi all,
 
Is it possible to use story-board style images to create animation in Pipmak?
To elaborate:
All the frames of an animation are pasted together and lined up in an image, and saved as a JPEG. The advantage to this would be(I think) that because the frames are in a single file, and therfore encoded together, it would both produce a smaller file and a faster decompression then a normal still image sequence. What I don't understand is how to get it to play back. I was thinking maybe fooling with the margins of a patch? What does everyone think?
 
Thanks, 
  James


      

Playing an image sequence in reverse

[James W. <jfc...@ya...>]

Hi all,
 
I'm trying to run a JPEG image sequence in reverse order, but am running into problems:
 
Code:
 
cubic { "dummy1024.png", "dummy.png","dummy.png", "dummy.png", "dummy.png", "dummy.png" }
 
local anim = patch {face=1, x = 0, y = 0, image = "patches/anim_100.jpg" }
local animpos = 100
 
hotspotmap "hotspotmap.png"
 
hotspot {
onmousedown = function()
pipmak.schedule(
0.04,
function()
animpos = math.mod(animpos - 1, 101)
anim:setimage ("patches/anim_" .. animpos .. ".jpg")
return 0.04
end
)

end 
}
 
This playes it backward, but once it gets to frame "anim_0.jpg", it goes on to output continusly "Cannot find file "anim_-1.jpg" Cannot find file  "anim_-2.jpg", and so on.
How do I make it loop?
 
Thanks,
    James


      

Re: Image Sequences-why not suitable?

[James W. <jfc...@ya...>]

I meant a JPEG sequence, sorry for any confusion.

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From: Aidan Gauland <wgs...@no...>
Subject: Re: Image Sequences-why not suitable?
To: "Content creation for the Pipmak Game Engine" <pip...@li...>
Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 4:28 PM


James Wilson wrote:
> Really? Interesting. I rendered a 1024x1024 video, encoded it to 85% quality JPEG, and set it up in Pipmak. It worked fine, and ran on the intended 15 FPS. And my PC is fairly old, 1.9 GHz.

Do you mean a sequence of JPEG images, or is there some way of making an 
animated JPEG that I don't know about?  I thought that JPEG was only for still 
images.

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Re: Image Sequences-why not suitable?

[Aidan G. <wgs...@no...>]

James Wilson wrote:
> Really? Interesting. I rendered a 1024x1024 video, encoded it to 85% quality JPEG, and set it up in Pipmak. It worked fine, and ran on the intended 15 FPS. And my PC is fairly old, 1.9 GHz.

Do you mean a sequence of JPEG images, or is there some way of making an 
animated JPEG that I don't know about?  I thought that JPEG was only for still 
images.

Re: Image Sequences-why not suitable?

[James W. <jfc...@ya...>]

Really? Interesting. I rendered a 1024x1024 video, encoded it to 85% quality JPEG, and set it up in Pipmak. It worked fine, and ran on the intended 15 FPS. And my PC is fairly old, 1.9 GHz.

--- On Wed, 9/9/09, Aidan Gauland <wgs...@no...> wrote:


From: Aidan Gauland <wgs...@no...>
Subject: Re: Image Sequences-why not suitable?
To: "Content creation for the Pipmak Game Engine" <pip...@li...>
Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 4:41 PM


James Wilson wrote:
> I wonder, why are still image sequences, such as JPEGs, not suitable for real world use? I want video support as much as anyone, but for now, aren't JPEG sequences fine? Is the problem with the fact that audio can't be streamed directly with it? It's standard practice to stream the audio from a seperate file in games, anyway...Or is it becouse JPEG sequences are somewhat larger then Ogg Theora? That's not much of an issue when you've got DVD-ROMs to work with....

To answer your question simply, because decompression time is crippling.  To 
give a little more detail, video codecs are designed for moving pictures, so 
they can take into consideration similarities between consecutive frames when 
encoding, which JPEG can not do, as it only deals with still images.

That said, still-image sequences are fine for short, low-res animations like 
the spinning wheel in the Pipmak demo.

  --Aidan

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Re: My code is crashing pipmak, but why?

[syxified <syx...@ya...>]

...and, that did it!

Putting that 'for' loop into the inventory node on the enternode handler
rather than in main.lua when placing the overlay node did it.  When I was
imagining how it would work, I pictured it overlaying all those individual
things (which I guess I could have done by making a ton of panel nodes, but
I should have thought of the inventory node as all its own picture.

However, if you still want to show me a better way of doing this, I would
not at all be surprised if it could be done far more efficiently than I am
in stumbling my way through it.  

BTW, while I've got you, I wanted to toss you a quick compliment on the
reference guide.  The writing is very succinct and easy to understand, and
the conventions you use for type style to show what things are in the code
makes perfect sense, far more than most guides on coding.  Cheers!

~Matt 

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Re: My code is crashing pipmak, but why?

[syxified <syx...@ya...>]

Well, I'm closing in on it.  Based on your advice I put those tables in an
enternode handler.  Now if I do startnode(99) and use the "i" toggle key, it
does arrange the items based on the table of which are true (i.e. which the
player has collected).  However, when I try to do that while on some other
dummy node I created the pipmak window simply vanishes and I'm booted out of
the system.  I'm going to try putting that arrangement code in 99 rather
than main, which I believe is what your suggestion is, and cross me fingers.

~Matt 

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Re: My code is crashing pipmak, but why?

[Christian W. <cwa...@gm...>]

syxified wrote:
> I just introduced a 'for' loop into the
> onkeydown handler to check the array of patches, and those which are found
> to be true in the inventory get moved so they are in a decending order
> visually on the page.  However, that for loop keeps crashing pipmak the
> moment I hit the "i" button.

Quick answer before I have time to actually test your code or show you a 
better solution:

You can't store the patch objects from node 99 in global variables and 
use them before node 99 is entered or after node 99 is left. These 
objects are (re-)created when their node is entered and are only valid 
as long as the node is displayed. Arranging the patches should be done 
in an onenternode handler of node 99 (or create them at the correct 
location in the first place).

That said, any possibility to crash Pipmak using Lua scripting is a bug 
and I will look into it. Thanks for the report.

  -Christian