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Re: [pilot-db-list] DB 1.3.0

[Oliver G. <oli...@we...>]

Hi Marc!

I haven't tried so far to create a database with the new version
of my actual device, and after Steve's trouble I didn't really
want to try on my Palm IIIc (I'm using DB almost exlusively
to look up data that is maintained on the PC and converted
to DB files using the DB tools).

I did, however try it on the emulator. I couldn't recreate
the problem there but I'm not sure if this really means
much.

I did encounter two problems on the emulator:

1) The old information plugin didn't work anymore (a new
    one isn't provided in the package). That's not really
    a bug, though, since the new version probably isn't
    meant to work with old plugin builds.
    And while we're at it, I have a small feature request:
    I'd like to be able to query the number of rows in
    the database as well as the number of rows in a filtered
    selection.

2) Somewhere in the process of trying out the new version
    on the emulator, my database was miraculously renamed to
    "ÿÿÿ" (Three 'y' characters with umlaut-dots on top, in
    case the mail gets mangled in some way).
    I'm not sure anymore what exactly I did, and I couldn't
    recreate this easily, but I will try again.

Cheers,
	Oliver

Chalain Marc wrote:

> Thank you for the bug report.
> Have you some trouble when you exit to the application (soft reset) or create some databases.
> Salut,
> Marc.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>Hi!
>>
>>I just downloaded the new DB version and was sooooo delighted
>>to see the "Lookup" function (writing the first letter to jump
>>to the first matching record) implemented. I craved for that
>>function every time I stood in a CD store and tried to look up
>>in my database if I alrady had a specific CD (one gets old
>>and starts to forget things... ;-) Marc, I could kiss you for
>>that!!! (Although I doubt that you'd want that ;-)
>>
>>I found one bug though (with the color version): when I use a
>>filter, the background color of each entry seems to stick with
>>it and doesn't alternate from green to white with every line.
>>This wasn't the case with 0.3.3.
>>
>>Thanks again for a great program!
>>
>>Cheers,
>>	Oliver
>>
>>-- 
>>Oliver Goetz, mailto:oli...@we...
>>    "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
>>     Sinners are much more fun...   And only the good die young"
>>                                                      -- Billy Joel
>>
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Re: [pilot-db-list] Grayscale support

[Carson W. <car...@fi...>]

I'd have to agree with this, the grayscale is extremely hard to read on a palm IIIxe.

Carson

Carson R. Wilcox
Senior Consultant
DMR Consulting
Tampa, FL USA


--- Meino Christian Cramer <mccramer@s.netic.de> wrote:
>Hi,
>
> there are some devices out there, which are able to display in
> grayscale mode but using this is a pain, cause optimal contrast
> settings is different for b/w and grayscale and for any "grayscaled"
> application. Furthermore batteries are getting empty quite faster
> using grayscale.
>
> I would appreciate it very much, if there could be a
> option like "forced black and white" in db to ignore
> the grayscale capabilities of the OS.
>
> Thank you very much!
>
>   keep hacking the right site of life ! :-)
>  Meino  
>
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[pilot-db-list] fatal error

[Carson W. <car...@fi...>]

Marc,

I just in stalled 0.3.4betas and I get a fatal error and have to do a reset when I do a global search. Reinstalling 0.3.4alphas, cleared up the problem. I seem to remember having this problem in one of the earlier alphas?


Thanks,
Carson


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[pilot-db-list] Grayscale support

[Meino C. C. <mccramer@s.netic.de>]

Hi,

 there are some devices out there, which are able to display in
 grayscale mode but using this is a pain, cause optimal contrast
 settings is different for b/w and grayscale and for any "grayscaled"
 application. Furthermore batteries are getting empty quite faster
 using grayscale.

 I would appreciate it very much, if there could be a
 option like "forced black and white" in db to ignore
 the grayscale capabilities of the OS.

 Thank you very much!

   keep hacking the right site of life ! :-)
  Meino  

Re: [pilot-db-list] Hard Reset: DB 1.3.0

[Hal D. <hal...@ac...>]

>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, "Steve" == Steve Fricker wrote:

  Steve> Ouch. Had to do a hard reset to recover.

Too late to help you but are you aware of the third kind of 
reset?

Soft reset reboots the PalmOS and calls all apps with a message 
indicating that.

Warm reset reboots the PalmOS and does NOT call all apps.

Hard reset clears memory and reboots the PalmOS.

This is documented at the Palm site but a google search only 
turned up this:  http://www.epinions.com/content_6479842948

--Hal

Re: [pilot-db-list] (no subject)

[Chalain Marc<mar...@vo...>]

For this number you decided, you call db2 for the previous version of database and db3 for the last one. To keep the coherence with db3 driver i give the name 1.3.x . I think it's the better for the future of db we don't know if we will have to build a db4 driver.
Salut,
Marc.



> On Friday 11 January 2002 11:38 am, Chalain Marc wrote:
> 
> > The first beta version of pilot-db 1.3.0 is available on the website.
> >
> > la premi=E8re version beta de pilot-db 1.3.0 est disponible sur le site.
> >
> > Not in german, sorry!!!!
> 
> Why version 1.3.0 initially? Typically, when the major number is incremented, 
> the minor and patchlevel numbers go back to 0. So wouldn't 1.0.0 be the first 
> 1.x.x version?
> 

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Re:[pilot-db-list] Hard Reset: DB 1.3.0

[Chalain Marc<mar...@vo...>]

Ok i look that perhaps it's the same trouble with the stop application.
Thank you, and sorry for the trouble but it's a beta version and i hadn't this trouble on my device (i created databases with this version).

I think there is some memory trouble with some devices.  I think it's not general for every people.
This trouble is my priority.
Salut,
Marc.



> Ouch. Had to do a hard reset to recover.  I was creating a file and
> tried to save it.  The fatal exception, reset dialog came up and the
> palm froze. Tapping the palm icons had no effect.  So, I used the soft
> reset option by sticking the stylus pen into the reset hole on the back.
>  The palm responded by continually flashing the initial palm screen off
> and on.  Hitting the power button had no effect.  Finally did a hard
> reset.
> 
> This was not the first database I created while in 1.3.0, and I can't
> think of anything different that I did.  The database was a simple one
> with only a few string fields.
> 
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Re:[pilot-db-list] DB 1.3.0

[Chalain Marc<mar...@vo...>]

Thank you for the bug report.
Have you some trouble when you exit to the application (soft reset) or create some databases.
Salut,
Marc.



> Hi!
> 
> I just downloaded the new DB version and was sooooo delighted
> to see the "Lookup" function (writing the first letter to jump
> to the first matching record) implemented. I craved for that
> function every time I stood in a CD store and tried to look up
> in my database if I alrady had a specific CD (one gets old
> and starts to forget things... ;-) Marc, I could kiss you for
> that!!! (Although I doubt that you'd want that ;-)
> 
> I found one bug though (with the color version): when I use a
> filter, the background color of each entry seems to stick with
> it and doesn't alternate from green to white with every line.
> This wasn't the case with 0.3.3.
> 
> Thanks again for a great program!
> 
> Cheers,
> 	Oliver
> 
> -- 
> Oliver Goetz, mailto:oli...@we...
>     "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
>      Sinners are much more fun...   And only the good die young"
>                                                       -- Billy Joel
> 
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[pilot-db-list] DB 1.3.0

[Oliver G. <oli...@we...>]

Hi!

I just downloaded the new DB version and was sooooo delighted
to see the "Lookup" function (writing the first letter to jump
to the first matching record) implemented. I craved for that
function every time I stood in a CD store and tried to look up
in my database if I alrady had a specific CD (one gets old
and starts to forget things... ;-) Marc, I could kiss you for
that!!! (Although I doubt that you'd want that ;-)

I found one bug though (with the color version): when I use a
filter, the background color of each entry seems to stick with
it and doesn't alternate from green to white with every line.
This wasn't the case with 0.3.3.

Thanks again for a great program!

Cheers,
	Oliver

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     Sinners are much more fun...   And only the good die young"
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[pilot-db-list] Hard Reset: DB 1.3.0

[Steve F. <sfr...@tr...>]

Ouch. Had to do a hard reset to recover.  I was creating a file and
tried to save it.  The fatal exception, reset dialog came up and the
palm froze. Tapping the palm icons had no effect.  So, I used the soft
reset option by sticking the stylus pen into the reset hole on the back.
 The palm responded by continually flashing the initial palm screen off
and on.  Hitting the power button had no effect.  Finally did a hard
reset.

This was not the first database I created while in 1.3.0, and I can't
think of anything different that I did.  The database was a simple one
with only a few string fields.

[pilot-db-list] Fatal Alert on Sort and csv2pdb Help

[suncor <su...@ya...>]

I tired sorting a JFile database, and I got the same fatal alert and reset
that I got using a mobiledb database. So I thought I would try working
around the problem by creating a csv file from a mobiledb database and then
using the csv2pdb.exe to make it in DB format. I just can't seem to get this
tool to work. I'm sure I must be typing something wrong. I tried following
the posted manual but still no luck. Can someone explain to me how to use
the csv2pdb step by step and in language that anyone would understand.
Thanks.

[pilot-db-list] how to submit a DB to the website?

[Edwin H. <ed...@me...>]

hi

i just started using this program a few weeks ago and i love it. i was
looking for something like this for the longest time and i've found it now!
i made this DB that helps me keep track of computers(configuration, IP
number and stuff) and i would like to submit it so that others can download
it..and improve upon it.  But where or how would i do this?


thanks
edwin

[pilot-db-list] Fatal Alert on Sort and csv2pdb Help

[suncor <su...@ya...>]

I tired sorting a JFile database, and I got the same fatal alert and reset
that I got using a mobiledb database. So I thought I would try working
around the problem by creating a csv file from a mobiledb database and then
using the csv2pdb.exe to make it in DB format. I just can't seem to get this
tool to work. I'm sure I must be typing something wrong. I tried following
the posted manual but still no luck. Can someone explain to me how to use
the csv2pdb step by step and in language that anyone would understand.
Thanks.

Fwd: Re: [pilot-db-list] Bug Report: 0.3.3s not able to read DBs that are restored from backup

[Louis C. <lch...@ya...>]

Unfortunately, a rescan did not resolve the "Cannot open this database"
problem or the fatal exception.

--- Scott Wallace <swa...@my...> wrote:
> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:41:15 -0500 (EST)
> From: Scott Wallace <swa...@my...>
> To: Louis Chan <lch...@ya...>
> Subject: Re: [pilot-db-list] Bug Report: 0.3.3s not able to read DBs
> that
>  are restored from backup
> 
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Louis Chan wrote:
> 
> > I am using DB 0.3.3s (the Sony version) on a Palm IIIc with OS
> 3.5.3. 
> > I sync with a Mac onto Palm Desktop 2.6.3 (latest for the Mac).
> > 
> > I am not able to open databases that have been restored from
> Backup.
> > 
> > This is what I did.
> > 
> > Created a new DB (I just filled it with 2 fields and 2 rows for
> > testing) with backup bit set.
> > Hotsync.  Saw that the DB was backed up.
> > Deleted the DB on the Palm using the drop down "Delete" function on
> the
> > Chooser screen.
> > Went to desktop computer, and placed the backup DB on to the
> install.
> > Hotsynced again.
> > Went to the DB application on the Palm. Tapped the Test DB.
> > 
> > A dialog box "Unable to open database" popped up.
> > I couldn't do anything with the DB.  When I tried to rename it, it
> gave
> > me a fatal error (no error message) requiring a soft reset.
> > 
> > Louis
> 
> If you get this error in DB's chooser try going to the menu and
> selecing 
> "Rescan databases"  DB stores a list of what database it believes it
> can 
> open.  If one of these databases is deleted outside of the db
> program, a 
> rescan should be performed.
> 
>   however, the renaming bug should be corrected.
> 
> 	
> 	hope this helps.
> 
> 	Scott
> 


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[pilot-db-list] Bug Report: 0.3.3s not able to read DBs that are restored from backup

[Louis C. <lch...@ya...>]

I am using DB 0.3.3s (the Sony version) on a Palm IIIc with OS 3.5.3. 
I sync with a Mac onto Palm Desktop 2.6.3 (latest for the Mac).

I am not able to open databases that have been restored from Backup.

This is what I did.

Created a new DB (I just filled it with 2 fields and 2 rows for
testing) with backup bit set.
Hotsync.  Saw that the DB was backed up.
Deleted the DB on the Palm using the drop down "Delete" function on the
Chooser screen.
Went to desktop computer, and placed the backup DB on to the install.
Hotsynced again.
Went to the DB application on the Palm. Tapped the Test DB.

A dialog box "Unable to open database" popped up.
I couldn't do anything with the DB.  When I tried to rename it, it gave
me a fatal error (no error message) requiring a soft reset.

Louis


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[pilot-db-list] (no subject)

[Chalain Marc<mar...@vo...>]

The first beta version of pilot-db 1.3.0 is available on the website.

la premi=E8re version beta de pilot-db 1.3.0 est disponible sur le site.

Not in german, sorry!!!!

Salut,
Marc.

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[pilot-db-list] Bug Report DB 1.3.0: Fatal Exception upon Exit

[Steve F. <sfr...@tr...>]

I installed  DB 1.3.0 (0.3.4 beta 1) on a Palm IIIx, OS v 3.3.  Tapping
on the Palm Home key to exit DB results in a Fatal Exception.  This
occurs no matter where in DB I exit and it is consistent.  So far, I
have not seen any loss of data as a result.

Re:[pilot-db-list] Questions from a new user

[Chalain Marc<mar...@vo...>]

> I've just found DB, and have a questions.  Please forgive me if they
> have been convered before.
> 
> 1) What is the maximum number of records that can be stored in a dB?

i don't know.

> 2) Is it possible to automatically prefix all databases with something
> like DB_, similar to the way ThinkDB and Handyshopper does it?  This
> way, if I have several files of the same name by different apps, I can
> distinguish between them on the computer.

no because i will have some trouble with previous version.

> 3) Is it possible to add the Options/Database Prefs to the Info dialog
> box in the chooser screen?

? i will see.

> 4) I strongly second the sort associated with the view feature request
> that is logged on the website.
> 
> 5) The manual states that the note field can hold 500 characters.  I
> believe that this is incorrect.

True it's 3kb.

> 6) Is there someway to automatically sort a list other than entry
> order?  What happens if I wanted to resort the list by deleting and
> reentering.  Would it cause a problem with the existing entries?  I
> guess my question is how is the list stored in the database, by list
> index, or by actual list text?

list index. sorting reorders the database.

> 7) I have loaded the color version. Is there someway to change the
> background color of the green bars?

yes but the solution is not the same with the 0.3.3 and the 1.3.0 version.
 0.3.3: with a color chooser application the green is the OK color (if you understand)
 0.3.4: with a resource editor.
a plugin will see the light.

> 8) Is it possible to set Read/Write flag on a per DB basis, rather than
> on a global basis? There are some DBs that I do not want to modify
> easily, while others I want to be able to change easily everytime I
> look at a record.

not yet.=13

Salut,
Marc.

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Re:[pilot-db-list] Fatal Exception on Column Sort

[Chalain Marc<mar...@vo...>]

Thanks for the bug report.
Sorry for the trouble. the MobileDB support is not my priority but i will try to correct this bug.



> I just started using Pilot-db a few days ago. Everything was going great
> until I tried to sort a column. Any time I try to sort on a column, I get a
> fatal exception and an on screen soft reset. I just tested this in a
> database created in pilot-db on my visor, and it was fine. It seems to
> happen with any mobiledb database. Is there anything I can do? Thanks.
> 

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[pilot-db-list] Re: DB Conduit

[<mr...@cr...>]

I would love a conduit that synched a csv file.  I don't use Access much at all, but a 
csv file could easily be imported into any spreadsheet and other applications.  That 
would be very nice to have.  

On 10 Jan 2002 at 12:13, pil...@li...urceforge.n wrote:

> Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 21:51:21 +0100
> From: Fab <kr...@bi...>
> To: Pil...@li...
> Subject: Re: [pilot-db-list] on the way: DB Conduit / windows / MS Access
> Reply-To: kr...@bi...
> 
> > You can start posting a wish list if you like :-)
> 

======================
Michael Reich
mr...@cr...
======================

[pilot-db-list] Fatal Exception on Column Sort

[suncor <su...@ya...>]

I just started using Pilot-db a few days ago. Everything was going great
until I tried to sort a column. Any time I try to sort on a column, I get a
fatal exception and an on screen soft reset. I just tested this in a
database created in pilot-db on my visor, and it was fine. It seems to
happen with any mobiledb database. Is there anything I can do? Thanks.

Re: [pilot-db-list] on the way: DB Conduit / windows / MS Access

[Fab <kr...@bi...>]

> There never is a good solution that fits everybody.
	That's why I love IT, there's always a solution, often many
solutions, and sometime too much solutions :-))))))))))))))
	Fab.

Re: [pilot-db-list] on the way: DB Conduit / windows / MS Access

[Fab <kr...@bi...>]

> The 'no sync' scenario presupposes a database having
> a single user updating it.
> That's not always the case.  Some databases (for instance, a sales
> based database) intrinsically are updated on both sides.

	Of course, I only spoke about my needs :-)
	But the scenario you evoke is kind of dangerous. There is
absolutly no way to prevent multiple accesses on the same real record
which is logically duplicated through all the pdas. I would prefer
to have the pdas store a readonly database, and news or modifications
stored in another database on the pdas. Then I should use a robust
program on a central machine to include with a lot of controls the
different modifs when the pdas come back home. The idea should be to
record events in the pda, rather than pure modifications of the copie
of the database the pda has in. But the problem is rather tricky.
	Fab.

Re: [pilot-db-list] Questions from a new user

[Fab <kr...@bi...>]

> 1) What is the maximum number of records that can be stored in a dB?
	There is a maximum, but the info has been lost in /dev/null :-)


> 2) Is it possible to automatically prefix all databases with something
> like DB_, similar to the way ThinkDB and Handyshopper does it?  This
> way, if I have several files of the same name by different apps, I can
> distinguish between them on the computer.

	Not automaticaly. I name all my db databases with a personnal
prefix during creation (or after, when I forget :-) and voila.


> 6) Is there someway to automatically sort a list other than entry
> order?

	Not yet.


>  What happens if I wanted to resort the list by deleting and
> reentering.  Would it cause a problem with the existing entries?

	I did try that and in some cases the records got updated
and didn't loose there value and in some cases it didn't do the trick.
I haven't find more, perhaps I did some spelling errors...



	Fab.

[pilot-db-list] Questions from a new user

[Louis C. <lch...@ya...>]

I've just found DB, and have a questions.  Please forgive me if they
have been convered before.

1) What is the maximum number of records that can be stored in a dB?

2) Is it possible to automatically prefix all databases with something
like DB_, similar to the way ThinkDB and Handyshopper does it?  This
way, if I have several files of the same name by different apps, I can
distinguish between them on the computer.

3) Is it possible to add the Options/Database Prefs to the Info dialog
box in the chooser screen?

4) I strongly second the sort associated with the view feature request
that is logged on the website.

5) The manual states that the note field can hold 500 characters.  I
believe that this is incorrect.

6) Is there someway to automatically sort a list other than entry
order?  What happens if I wanted to resort the list by deleting and
reentering.  Would it cause a problem with the existing entries?  I
guess my question is how is the list stored in the database, by list
index, or by actual list text?

7) I have loaded the color version. Is there someway to change the
background color of the green bars?

8) Is it possible to set Read/Write flag on a per DB basis, rather than
on a global basis? There are some DBs that I do not want to modify
easily, while others I want to be able to change easily everytime I
look at a record.

Thanks
Louis

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