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From: Sean E. <sea...@gm...> - 2006-06-07 22:04:58
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Cabal, The lawyers are getting fed up with our inability to come up with a decent name, and have provided a few suggestions of their own: Tin Can (or Tincan) Schmooze Spiel. Regarding Spiel, Karen says: spiel is my favorite, since it means play in German, which is reminiscent of game but also in English, derived from Yiddish, means a speech or talk). The lawyers expect to hear from AOL again tomorrow, and hopefully they'll make some real progress. -s. |
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From: Luke S. <lsc...@us...> - 2006-05-24 16:56:52
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On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 06:02:25PM -0700, Sean Egan wrote: > The last decent name I remember being suggested was "Cohort." > > Does anyone else have any current favorites? > > For SoC mentors, tomorrow, I'm gonna go -2 all the non-exceptional ones. > > -s. I would not mind "Cohort," though I'm not strongly in favor of it either. Still, I'd like to have _some_ name we can release with, so that we can get 2.0.0 out the door. luke |
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From: Evan S. <ev...@dr...> - 2006-05-24 06:17:15
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> Sean Egan wrote: >> He requested it, but I took it for myself, because Evan also has 2 >> Adium projects assigned to him. Irrelevant to Gaim: I actually ended up with just 1 Adium project because other Adium folk wanted a share of the mentorship pie and I yielded :) I'm cool with helping sadrul on the curses-based gaim/libgaim one -- it's much more in line with Things I Know, whereas QQ I offered to mentor primarily because I thought it needed mentoring and I was willing to do it if nobody more qualified was interested. -Evan |
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From: Tim R. <om...@ho...> - 2006-05-24 02:44:15
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Sean Egan wrote: > He requested it, but I took it for myself, because Evan also has 2 > Adium projects assigned to him. If you'd like it, I'll give it up. > Sure. Unless you have some special qq related knowledge I don't have. --Tim |
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From: Sean E. <sea...@gm...> - 2006-05-24 01:13:18
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On 5/23/06, Tim Ringenbach <om...@ho...> wrote: > Also looks like Evans had the qq one assigned to him at one point, > what's up with that? He requested it, but I took it for myself, because Evan also has 2 Adium projects assigned to him. If you'd like it, I'll give it up. |
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From: Tim R. <om...@ho...> - 2006-05-24 00:56:26
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Sean Egan wrote: > On 5/23/06, Tim Ringenbach <om...@ho...> wrote: > >> Yeah I guess I screwed up and didn't check this email over the weekend >> (and had a tooth taken out Monday) and missed the deadline. Laager >> suggested that you having assigned 3 to yourself might mean you planned >> on reassigning one or more to someone else. (although it wouldn't >> surprise me if you really want three) If so, let me know, otherwise, >> my bad. > > > Yeah; I took three with the intent of pawning one or two off. Interested? Sure, which ones are you most wanting to keep? I don't want to steal your favorite from you. Looking through your three, I'm having a hard time deciding. Also looks like Evans had the qq one assigned to him at one point, what's up with that? --Tim |
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From: Sean E. <sea...@gm...> - 2006-05-24 00:23:06
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On 5/23/06, Tim Ringenbach <om...@ho...> wrote: > Yeah I guess I screwed up and didn't check this email over the weekend > (and had a tooth taken out Monday) and missed the deadline. Laager > suggested that you having assigned 3 to yourself might mean you planned > on reassigning one or more to someone else. (although it wouldn't > surprise me if you really want three) If so, let me know, otherwise, my b= ad. Yeah; I took three with the intent of pawning one or two off. Interested? -s. |
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From: Tim R. <om...@ho...> - 2006-05-24 00:15:33
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Sean Egan wrote: > I cannot assign mentors unless they request projects. If you want to > be a mentor, and haven't said "I will mentor this project (+4)" you > should do so soon. > Yeah I guess I screwed up and didn't check this email over the weekend (and had a tooth taken out Monday) and missed the deadline. Laager suggested that you having assigned 3 to yourself might mean you planned on reassigning one or more to someone else. (although it wouldn't surprise me if you really want three) If so, let me know, otherwise, my bad. --Tim |
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From: Mark D. <ma...@ki...> - 2006-05-23 04:51:43
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FYI I'll be pretty busy the next 3 weeks moving across the country. Also, something bad happened to my primary computer and I'm not quite sure how long it'll take me to get it back up and running, which is why I haven't been on IRC in a while. But I'll be around on AIM occasionally (MarkDoliner) and I'll try to respond to email within a day or two. I should have time to send the summer of code students info on getting started. I see that I have two students assigned to me--should we start contacting them already, or does Google still need to give them the official OK? -Mark |
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From: Sean E. <sea...@gm...> - 2006-05-22 21:07:17
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I cannot assign mentors unless they request projects. If you want to be a mentor, and haven't said "I will mentor this project (+4)" you should do so soon. -s. |
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From: Evan S. <ev...@dr...> - 2006-05-22 13:02:37
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Just a friendly reminder: Right now none of the SoC apps have mentors assigned, and quite a few don't have anybody requesting mentorship. According to discussion on the SoC list, mentors need to be assigned by an administrator for each accepted application by 5 pm PST today; if they aren't assigned, Google will move the SoC allocation to another project. That also means that for each app which will actually be accepted, someone needs to have selected "I would mentor this application" so their name is present in the list of possible mentors. Cheers, Evan p.s. Note to Luke or whoever is admin'ing the list: I accidentally posted to the list from the wrong address originally -- please just reject that post. |
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From: Evan S. <ev...@dr...> - 2006-05-21 15:22:08
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On May 20, 2006, at 11:09 PM, Richard Laager wrote: >> Do we know how many slots we get for sure, yet? > > Not for sure. The preliminary number posted to the SoC list was 12. According to other SoC list discussion, our number will be between 12 and 14, with 12 being most likely. -Evan |
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From: Richard L. <rl...@wi...> - 2006-05-21 03:09:41
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On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 23:05 -0400, Ethan Blanton wrote: > Do we know how many slots we get for sure, yet? Not for sure. The preliminary number posted to the SoC list was 12. Richard |
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From: Gary K. <gr...@re...> - 2006-05-21 03:08:53
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Ethan Blanton wrote: > Evan Schoenberg spake unto us the following wisdom: >> Will the goal be to have one MSN upgrade app, one performance >> optimization app, and one logging app? Based on the currently high- >> ranked apps, and taking into account exactly one of sadrul's, we'll >> have 3 unique applications currently below thee 'not accepted' line >> moving up to the accepted range. Looking at apps with a score of 1 >> or better, I'm not sure we have three good unique ones... > > The goal is to have as many of the best applications as we have slots > for, or there are suitable applications, whichever number is smaller. > If this means no MSN apps get in, or no logging apps get in, or > whatever, that's fine. We should avoid duplicates. > > Do we know how many slots we get for sure, yet? > > Frankly, I don't see 13 (or however many students we originally > applied for) stellar applications. I'm quite disappointed over all. > > Ethan > Ditto, I know I haven't seen the majority of the applications due to time constraints, but some of the applications we're looking at this year are ones I just outright denied last year for copy pasting. -- Gary Kramlich <gr...@re...> |
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From: Richard L. <rl...@wi...> - 2006-05-21 03:07:49
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On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 23:00 -0400, Evan Schoenberg wrote: > Will the goal be to have one MSN upgrade app, one performance > optimization app, and one logging app? Not sure. I would really, really, really like to have both logging apps. They would have different scopes and would likely both accomplish good things. I've attempted to justify that in a comment I posted to them. We might be able to have two performance ones. Two MSN ones would be tough. Richard |
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From: Ethan B. <ebl...@cs...> - 2006-05-21 03:05:58
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Evan Schoenberg spake unto us the following wisdom: > Will the goal be to have one MSN upgrade app, one performance =20 > optimization app, and one logging app? Based on the currently high-=20 > ranked apps, and taking into account exactly one of sadrul's, we'll =20 > have 3 unique applications currently below thee 'not accepted' line =20 > moving up to the accepted range. Looking at apps with a score of 1 =20 > or better, I'm not sure we have three good unique ones... The goal is to have as many of the best applications as we have slots for, or there are suitable applications, whichever number is smaller. If this means no MSN apps get in, or no logging apps get in, or whatever, that's fine. We should avoid duplicates. Do we know how many slots we get for sure, yet? Frankly, I don't see 13 (or however many students we originally applied for) stellar applications. I'm quite disappointed over all. Ethan --=20 The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws [that have no remedy for evils]. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. -- Cesare Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishments", 1764 |
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From: Evan S. <ev...@dr...> - 2006-05-21 03:00:30
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On May 20, 2006, at 10:15 PM, Gary Kramlich wrote: > Richard Laager wrote: >> The scoring deadline is fast approaching. IIRC, it's 0800 PDT Monday. >> >> In my opinion, the MSN upgrade and performance optimization apps that >> are scored >= 1 need to be reviewed and sorted some more. >> Will the goal be to have one MSN upgrade app, one performance optimization app, and one logging app? Based on the currently high- ranked apps, and taking into account exactly one of sadrul's, we'll have 3 unique applications currently below thee 'not accepted' line moving up to the accepted range. Looking at apps with a score of 1 or better, I'm not sure we have three good unique ones... As I see it: QQ Support for Gaim/Adium seems like a good one. Social Networking via Instant Messaging is interesting. Semantic Sidebar is interesting but out of scope IMO. Same goes for Instant Syndicating. I don't have any personal interest in [own project] Chat-Database but it might be deemed worthwhile. If we don't have 3 unique ones to move up, we might want to notify Google so they can shift one spot to another project... -Evan |
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From: Gary K. <gr...@re...> - 2006-05-21 02:15:58
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Richard Laager wrote: > The scoring deadline is fast approaching. IIRC, it's 0800 PDT Monday. > > In my opinion, the MSN upgrade and performance optimization apps that > are scored >= 1 need to be reviewed and sorted some more. > > Richard > > If you're missing the URL, it's: > http://code.google.com/soc/gaim/open.html > > You'll need to be logged in or you'll get a not-too-helpful error. > Also, since i said I'd mentor sadrul's application for gobjectification, he now has 2 at the top, I imagine that's going to be a problem... -- Gary Kramlich <gr...@re...> |
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From: Richard L. <rl...@wi...> - 2006-05-21 02:13:11
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The scoring deadline is fast approaching. IIRC, it's 0800 PDT Monday. In my opinion, the MSN upgrade and performance optimization apps that are scored >= 1 need to be reviewed and sorted some more. Richard If you're missing the URL, it's: http://code.google.com/soc/gaim/open.html You'll need to be logged in or you'll get a not-too-helpful error. |
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From: Richard L. <rl...@wi...> - 2006-05-21 01:42:09
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On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 14:30 -0500, Gary Kramlich wrote:
> Btw, what is our current standing on the new name?
Related to this... If possible, I'd like to see another release before
the SoC students start committing stuff (if we're following the same
approach as last year). We haven't had a beta release in 2 months. (It's
been about 9.5 months since 1.5.0.)
Also, I would love to see the ShowStopperBugs fixed. They're reproduced
below. If you have any pointers on how to fix some of these, I'd be
grateful to hear them. I can take a stab at some of them if I knew where
to best spend my time.
Specifically, opinions on the GNU make issue and information on the
Jabber DoS and gtk_window_present abuses would be helpful.
Richard
* Jabber
* This http://gaim.sourceforge.net/gary/bugs.xml says
Jabber avatar code could be DoS'ed
* MSN
* Non-blocking IO changes broke the HTTP method -- See
#1461345 and others
* ICQ
* Non-ASCII aliases are not handled properly. This is a
regression. See #1404318
* Status
* Return from auto-away doesn't work correctly
* The message should be cleared when changing statuses,
not saved as it is now.
* The status list in Preferences -> Away/Idle should
contain the 4 primitive statuses as well as saved
statuses.
* UI
* gtk_window_present abuses
* Connection error notices should disappear when the
re-connection attempt succeeds.
* Connection error notices should not disappear until the
error is corrected.
* Build Process
* Should we be checking for GNU Make? See #1474927
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From: Gary K. <gr...@re...> - 2006-05-20 19:31:18
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I'm currently in a transition of moving away from SourceForge. I won't bore you with the details, but that fact is key to this point. I'm moving everything into a dedicated server running subversion and so on. I'm writing this because I'm trying to determine if you guys think renaming plugins with Gaim in them to something more generic is either too obvious or a bit premature. Basically I'm hoping to have my migration done by June, and would like to have this all taken care of before the migration is complete. Anyways, just let me know. Btw, what is our current standing on the new name? -- Gary Kramlich <gr...@re...> |
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From: Sean E. <sea...@gm...> - 2006-05-16 01:02:28
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The last decent name I remember being suggested was "Cohort." Does anyone else have any current favorites? For SoC mentors, tomorrow, I'm gonna go -2 all the non-exceptional ones. -s. |
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From: Ethan B. <ebl...@cs...> - 2006-05-04 19:37:41
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Sury, You have submitted the same SoC application to Gaim three times, with a slightly differing subject. There is no need to submit more than once, we will review your application. Thanks, Ethan --=20 The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws [that have no remedy for evils]. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. -- Cesare Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishments", 1764 |
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From: Evan S. <ev...@dr...> - 2006-05-03 16:21:30
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On May 3, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Etan Reisner wrote: > On Wed, 3 May 2006, Ethan Blanton wrote: > >> Isn't there already some guy who has a largely working MSNP?? >> implementation? Is this an appropriate SoC application topic? >> >> Ethan > > JayWalker in #gaim claims to have something like 80% of MSNP13 > working. If that's the case we should probably pull it from the suggestions list... Perhaps we should also include more information on what a 'good application' should have? Most of the apps I see submitted so far are pretty awful. As a starting point: Based partially on good pages from other projects, Adium has http://trac.adiumx.com/wiki/ ProposalGuidelines up, linked from the summer of code page. -Evan |
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From: Etan R. <de...@ed...> - 2006-05-03 16:17:10
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On Wed, 3 May 2006, Ethan Blanton wrote: > Isn't there already some guy who has a largely working MSNP?? > implementation? Is this an appropriate SoC application topic? > > Ethan JayWalker in #gaim claims to have something like 80% of MSNP13 working. -- 20:45:56 <wabz> btw, regarding the soc projects, i think Jaywalker has done most of msnp13? but Jaywalker would be the best to talk to about that.... 20:46:32 <Jaywalker> I have, lately i've been slacking on my work for it... :-/ 20:46:47 <Jaywalker> Who needs to talk about it? 20:47:07 <wabz> noone, i just noticed it was listed as a possible SoC project 20:48:07 <Jaywalker> Ah, yeah, i'm about ~80% done with it... I'm just waiting for them to get out of beta so i can finalize my stuff 20:48:10 <Jaywalker> The protocol is still changing -- There was a bit more but it was about the protocol itself and passports so I'm not quoting it. But it's probably worth actually finding out what he has and doesn't have, and how acceptable his patch is at this point. -Etan |
