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From: Itzchak R. <iz...@qu...> - 2001-09-06 15:30:24
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Hi fellas, I just decided to include the (experimental) PostgreSQL support in the CVS version. Could not test it yet - I have no PostgreSQL installed here. If anybody of you has, please give it a try and drop me a note about any occuring problem. Known problems with it: PostgreSQL uses a different date formatting, which I already have an idea of how to work around this - but it's not yet implemented. So when updating an existing entry, phpVP will complain about invalid date formats :) </izzy> -- Itzchak Rehberg mailto:iz...@qu... http://www.qumran.org "Advance is the mother of problems." (G.K. Chesterton) |
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From: Itzchak R. <izz...@qu...> - 2001-09-06 13:50:03
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Hi Borek, Leszek Boroch wrote: >>Located the problem - it's more complicated than you think. I was >>checking with MSIEx, which runs in a w98 system, which runs in a >>window which runs under vmware which runs under linux - could you >>follow? :-) >>So I checked with Mozilla under Linux, and it looks fine. > What version of MSIE you have? Maybe you need update, or at least > download and install new unicode fonts No need for. The problem here appeared with v5.0, but I also have v5.5 installed on my home machine. I use it only "for reference" - you know, I work under Linux not M$Windows, so I'm not that interested in :) But thanx for the hint. </izzy> -- Itzchak Rehberg http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/ "Advance is the mother of problems." (G.K. Chesterton) |
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From: Leszek B. <bo...@aj...> - 2001-09-06 13:37:25
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> Located the problem - it's more complicated than you think. I was > checking with MSIEx, which runs in a w98 system, which runs in a window > which runs under vmware which runs under linux - could you follow? :-) > So I checked with Mozilla under Linux, and it looks fine. What version of MSIE you have? Maybe you need update, or at least download and install new unicode fonts http://www.eu.microsoft.com/typography/fontpack/default.htm?fname=%20&fsize= > >>"Advance is the mother of problems." (G.K. Chesterton) > > The need is mother of invent :)) > > Maybe we build up a familiy tree here <g> Why not 8-) --- Leszek Boroch eng: KISS! - Keep It Simple Stupid! Technical University of Lublin pol: BUZI! - Bez Udziwnien Zapisu Idioto! mailto: bo...@aj... lub: BUZI! - Bez Urzywania Zakreconego Interfejsu! |
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From: Itzchak R. <iz...@qu...> - 2001-09-06 11:13:10
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...should now be automatically updated from CVS once per hour. If somebody finds out it's messed up (and not because of her/his changes), drop a note to me :) </izzy> -- Itzchak Rehberg mailto:iz...@qu... http://www.qumran.org "Advance is the mother of problems." (G.K. Chesterton) |
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From: Itzchak R. <iz...@qu...> - 2001-09-05 20:30:26
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Hi all, please use developers demo for experiments now: http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/software/pvp-dev/ Tnx! </izzy> -- Itzchak Rehberg mailto:iz...@qu... http://www.qumran.org "Advance is the mother of problems." (G.K. Chesterton) |
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From: Itzchak R. <izz...@qu...> - 2001-09-05 19:52:37
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Hi Borek, Leszek Boroch wrote: > BTW my nick is Borek ;) Yes, I know - just forget it from time to time :) >>it's a good idea to set up a second demo for development, right based >>on the CVS tree, so users won't get that confused by all those >>language changes :) > That would be very usefull, it is better to work and check work almost = > the same time That would be another step - but difficult to realize. The way CVS works = is a bit different: it's repository is not the place where you can put=20 the document root to :) You have to check that out to a different=20 location first. So, if you check-in something, it's not aoutomatically=20 placed in the web tree (besides the fact, that this cvs repository is on = sourceforge, while the web server is on my server :) >>>Firt fing that helped is that Izzy put me at SF as project member, >>>hmmm... strange ;-) >>That's what you are told when you enter some project page and click on >>CVS there. > yeah, right ;))) it was joke. I maent it was mystrious that something > happend many miles away helped my program working ;)))) Yeah, strange times - we have projects running by people who never met=20 each other :) >> Of course. For me, the 2nd point looks like: "no|nikow" (with accent >> on o, of course). Same for the filter menue: two items there, "w||cz >> filtr" and "wy||cz filtr" - always those pipe symbols in. May be >> that's because of my environment - that's why I ask. If it looks >> correct for you, everything should be fine. > it should looks like "w=B3=B1cz filtr" i "wy=B3=B1cz filtr" (first | is= 'l > with stroke', sec | is 'a with ogonek' unicode names ;) > check if you set iso-8859-2 charset ;)), or maybe it's lack of font > BTW on what system are you working? hmmm... checked. I see linux Located the problem - it's more complicated than you think. I was=20 checking with MSIEx, which runs in a w98 system, which runs in a window=20 which runs under vmware which runs under linux - could you follow? :-)=20 So I checked with Mozilla under Linux, and it looks fine. But nevertheless, we should always reset the language to English after=20 checking something. I will set up some separat demo for us developers=20 (hopefully tomorrow) together with a sync script for the CVS=20 synchronization and post the link here (or even put it on the projects=20 page), so we have one demo to play with (and mess it up :), and another=20 one for guests to look into. In the developers demo, all languages will=20 be available - while guests demo will only hold English and German (the=20 basic ones), maybe French and Spanish when available... so the guests at = least find the way to configure the demo for some language they=20 understand :) >> Humm? What thing? Is there some mechanism to automatically trans... >> ah, > yes, there are, but not perfect :))) Just look on Altavista search > results, there is Translate link on some entries I never thought of having THAT translation in phpVP #-) >>"Advance is the mother of problems." (G.K. Chesterton) > The need is mother of invent :)) Maybe we build up a familiy tree here <g> </izzy> --=20 Itzchak Rehberg http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/ "Advance is the mother of problems." (G.K. Chesterton) |
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From: Leszek B. <bo...@aj...> - 2001-09-05 19:24:24
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From http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html Because of these difficulties, the major Linux distributors and application developers now foresee and hope that Unicode will eventually replace all these older legacy encodings, primarily in the UTF-8 form. UTF-8 will be used in text files (source code, HTML files, email messages, etc.) file names standard input and standard output, pipes environment variables cut and paste selection buffers telnet, modem, and serial port connections to terminal emulators and in any other places where byte sequences used to be interpreted in ASCII In UTF-8 mode, terminal emulators such as xterm or the Linux console driver transform every keystroke into the corresponding UTF-8 sequence and send it to the stdin of the foreground process. Similarly, any output of a process on stdout is sent to the terminal emulator, where it is processed with a UTF-8 decoder and then displayed using a 16-bit font. Full Unicode functionality with all bells and whistles (e.g. high-quality typesetting of the Arabic and Indic scripts) can only be expected from sophisticated multi-lingual word-processing packages. What Linux will use on a broad base to replace ASCII and the other 8-bit character sets is far simpler. Linux terminal emulators and command line tools will in the first step only switch to UTF-8. This means that only a Level 1 implementation of ISO 10646-1 is used (no combining characters), and only scripts such as Latin, Greek, Cyrillic, Armenian, Georgian, CJK, and many scientific symbols are supported that need no further processing support. At this level, UCS support is very comparable to ISO 8859 support and the only significant difference is that we have now thousands of different characters available, that characters can be represented by multibyte sequences, and that ideographic Chinese/Japanese/Korean characters require two terminal character positions (double-width). --- Leszek Boroch eng: KISS! - Keep It Simple Stupid! Technical University of Lublin pol: BUZI! - Bez Udziwnien Zapisu Idioto! mailto: bo...@aj... lub: BUZI! - Bez Urzywania Zakreconego Interfejsu! |
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From: Leszek B. <bo...@aj...> - 2001-09-05 19:14:26
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Hi Izzy BTW my nick is Borek ;) > it's a good idea to set up a second demo for development, right based= on > the CVS tree, so users won't get that confused by all those language > changes :) That would be very usefull, it is better to work and check work almost = the same time > > Firt fing that helped is that Izzy put me at SF as project member, > > hmmm... strange ;-) > > That's what you are told when you enter some project page and click o= n > CVS there. yeah, right ;))) it was joke. I maent it was mystrious that something happend many miles away helped my program working ;)))) > > Second WinCVS needs "Show CVS console" enabled. Without that cvs op= ens > > shell window, but you can't type pass. > > Good to know - got that question a couple of times. WinCVS 1.2 works fine, problem is in 1.3 > Of course. For me, the 2nd point looks like: "no|nikow" (with accent = on > o, of course). Same for the filter menue: two items there, "w||cz fil= tr" > and "wy||cz filtr" - always those pipe symbols in. May be that's beca= use > of my environment - that's why I ask. If it looks correct for you, > everything should be fine. it should looks like "w=B3=B1cz filtr" i "wy=B3=B1cz filtr" (first | is= 'l with stroke', sec | is 'a with ogonek' unicode names ;) check if you set iso-8859-2 charset ;)), or maybe it's lack of font BTW on what system are you working? hmmm... checked. I see linux > Humm? What thing? Is there some mechanism to automatically trans... a= h, yes, there are, but not perfect :))) Just look on Altavista search resu= lts, there is Translate link on some entries > you mean your role (stupid me ;) - great, very good! So it's clear to > tell who's on which task. thats right :))) > "Advance is the mother of problems." (G.K. Chesterton) The need is mother of invent :)) --- Leszek Boroch eng: KISS! - Keep I= t Simple Stupid! Technical University of Lublin pol: BUZI! - Bez Udziwn= ien Zapisu Idioto! mailto: bo...@aj... lub: BUZI! - Bez Urzywania Zakreconego Interfejsu! |
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From: Itzchak R. <izz...@qu...> - 2001-09-05 18:49:01
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Hi Leszek, Leszek Boroch wrote: > Good news! My CVS is working. :)) First update done. Great - right, it came here. You can refresh it on the Demo now. Maybe it's a good idea to set up a second demo for development, right based on the CVS tree, so users won't get that confused by all those language changes :) > Firt fing that helped is that Izzy put me at SF as project member, > hmmm... strange ;-) That's what you are told when you enter some project page and click on CVS there. > Second WinCVS needs "Show CVS console" enabled. Without that cvs opens > shell window, but you can't type pass. Good to know - got that question a couple of times. > Izzy, in menu "Widok" I can't see anything wrong. Could you be more > precise? Of course. For me, the 2nd point looks like: "no|nikow" (with accent on o, of course). Same for the filter menue: two items there, "w||cz filtr" and "wy||cz filtr" - always those pipe symbols in. May be that's because of my environment - that's why I ask. If it looks correct for you, everything should be fine. > BTW: Doc Translator in SF seems to work ;)))) Humm? What thing? Is there some mechanism to automatically trans... ah, you mean your role (stupid me ;) - great, very good! So it's clear to tell who's on which task. </izzy> -- Itzchak Rehberg http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/ "Advance is the mother of problems." (G.K. Chesterton) |
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From: Itzchak R. <iz...@qu...> - 2001-09-05 18:33:14
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Hi fellas,
just added a check for the FSK/PG field on add/update (this field has to
be numeric, and I had some people reporting a "bug" when they tried to
insert a string there):
INSERT INTO lang VALUES('invalid_fsk','en','The value entered for %1 is
invalid. %1 means Parental Guide, i.e. the minimum age below that you
should give nobody access to this movie.');
Understood the meaning? :-)
</izzy>
--
Itzchak Rehberg
mailto:iz...@qu... http://www.qumran.org
"Advance is the mother of problems." (G.K. Chesterton)
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From: Leszek B. <bo...@aj...> - 2001-09-05 17:59:34
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Hi folks!
Here's my proposals for 2do list:
1. More medis types:
Video CD (VCD) - there are films published in this format
CD with video files - you may have movies f.e. in AVI format on
standard CD
2. Fields for movie original language and languages avaliable (DVD may have
many language tracks)
3. Field for avaliable subtitles languages (as above)
4. Autodetection of user/browser language and automatic switch to that
language (if avaliable)
5. Maybe place for links connected with movie?
6. Adio CD in future? ;-)
That's for now. More will come ;-)))
---
Leszek Boroch eng: KISS! - Keep It
Simple Stupid!
Technical University of Lublin pol: BUZI! - Bez Udziwnien
Zapisu Idioto!
mailto: bo...@aj... lub: BUZI! - Bez Urzywania
Zakreconego Interfejsu!
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From: Leszek B. <bo...@aj...> - 2001-09-05 17:54:28
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Hi folks!! Good news! My CVS is working. :)) First update done. Firt fing that helped is that Izzy put me at SF as project member, hmmm... strange ;-) Second WinCVS needs "Show CVS console" enabled. Without that cvs opens shell window, but you can't type pass. Izzy, in menu "Widok" I can't see anything wrong. Could you be more precise? BTW: Doc Translator in SF seems to work ;)))) --- Leszek Boroch eng: KISS! - Keep It Simple Stupid! Technical University of Lublin pol: BUZI! - Bez Udziwnien Zapisu Idioto! mailto: bo...@aj... lub: BUZI! - Bez Urzywania Zakreconego Interfejsu! |
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From: Itzchak R. <izz...@qu...> - 2001-09-05 17:42:23
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Hi Tom, Tom Albers wrote: > Ever thought about a link to the imdb for the staff members? Yepp. Not yet implemented; but planned: click on the staff members name in view mode (it is already a button, as you may have noticed), and a search of imdb is performed. That's my idea - but nothing done on this yet (except for the buttons :) </izzy> P.S.: how about the realization of your feature request? No comment on that? <izzy's fishing for compliments :) -- Itzchak Rehberg http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/ "Advance is the mother of problems." (G.K. Chesterton) |
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From: Tom A. <to...@ko...> - 2001-09-05 17:29:15
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Ever thought about a link to the imdb for the staff members? Tom -- signing off, need some sleep. > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: php...@li... > [mailto:php...@li...urceforge. net]Namens > Itzchak Rehberg > Verzonden: woensdag 5 september 2001 18:54 > Aan: php...@li... > Onderwerp: [Phpvideopro-developers] Logo > > > Hi fellas, > > anybody to design a logo for phpVideoPro? > > </izzy> > > -- > Itzchak Rehberg > mailto:iz...@qu... http://www.qumran.org > "Advance is the mother of problems." (G.K. Chesterton) > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpvideopro-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpvideopr > o-developers > > |
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From: Itzchak R. <iz...@qu...> - 2001-09-05 16:48:12
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Hi fellas, anybody to design a logo for phpVideoPro? </izzy> -- Itzchak Rehberg mailto:iz...@qu... http://www.qumran.org "Advance is the mother of problems." (G.K. Chesterton) |
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From: Itzchak R. <izz...@qu...> - 2001-09-05 16:19:10
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Hi Borek, Leszek Boroch wrote: >> But I do. You have to be project developer to access CVS this way. >> Since I'm the project manager, I can assign it to you - but I need >> your sf user name for this. > OK! My ID is: b0rek (0 is zero ) ;)) Tnx - you're added. I set your role to "doc translator" - I'm curious if that works with CVS as well. Let me know if you encounter any problems. </izzy> -- Itzchak Rehberg http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/ "Advance is the mother of problems." (G.K. Chesterton) |
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From: Leszek B. <bo...@aj...> - 2001-09-05 16:04:50
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> But I do. You have to be project developer to access CVS this way. Since > I'm the project manager, I cann assign it to you - but I need your sf > user name for this. OK! My ID is: b0rek (0 is zero ) ;)) --- Leszek Boroch eng: KISS! - Keep It Simple Stupid! Technical University of Lublin pol: BUZI! - Bez Udziwnien Zapisu Idioto! mailto: bo...@aj... lub: BUZI! - Bez Urzywania Zakreconego Interfejsu! |
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From: Itzchak R. <iz...@qu...> - 2001-09-05 00:03:21
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Hi friends,
two new phrases for the lang files:
INSERT INTO lang VALUES('goto_entry','en','Directly go to entry:');
INSERT INTO lang VALUES('start_page','en','Initial page');
Tom: Sorry, I forgot to add your feature request to the 2do file.
Concerning "direct jump" you may already have made your opinion out of
the first phrase, and you are absolutely right: update from CVS, and
you'll find it directly on the "Initial page" <g>
</izzy>
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From: Itzchak R. <izz...@qu...> - 2001-09-04 19:26:50
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Tom, Tom Albers wrote: > You will notice? I hope I won't have to :) <izzy>is going home now.</izzy> -- Itzchak Rehberg http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/ "Advance is the mother of problems." (G.K. Chesterton) |
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From: Itzchak R. <izz...@qu...> - 2001-09-04 19:25:14
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Hi Leszek, Leszek Boroch wrote: > For now ssh says "permission denied", so something must be wrong in > SF. I don't know what. But I do. You have to be project developer to access CVS this way. Since I'm the project manager, I cann assign it to you - but I need your sf user name for this. </izzy> -- Itzchak Rehberg http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/ "Advance is the mother of problems." (G.K. Chesterton) |
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From: Itzchak R. <izz...@qu...> - 2001-09-04 19:23:30
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Hi Leszek, Leszek Boroch wrote: > I've just refreshed demo page. It works fine now. Great. I can tune my > translation now ;)) Yes. Btw: have a look into "Widok": the 3rd menue item seems to be screwed up a bit. > But still I can't get to CVS (ssh says permisssion denied) :((. You have to tell me your sf user name that I can grant you permission :) > And could you put some data in demo base, just to work on something Huh? There are lot's of data in. If you see nothing, just go to the "Filtr" menue (humm - both entries screwed up as well - the JavaScript seems to have some probs...) and reset the filter. > Ooops > Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in > /web/htdocs/homes/izzy/software/pvp-demo/inc/db_mysql.inc on line 146 > Nice blue screen ;)))) Humm? Seems we are to many users on there #-) > Hmmm.... Unicode. Must think a little, and remind some things. > Here you have some links for starters: > http://www.unicode.org/ > http://www.unicode.org/unicode/onlinedat/resources.html > http://www.trigeminal.com/samples/provincial.html > End for now, more will come ;)) if you want I'll go and ask some collegues tomorrow. but tnx for the links - I'll flag this msg for later reference. >>tnx - looks great. And correct (yes, I can read some Polish - and some >>phrases I even understand ;) But I can neither speak nor write it :) > heh, you can still learn it ;))) Djenkuje (of course misspelled), guess that will be possible :) </izzy> -- Itzchak Rehberg http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/ "Advance is the mother of problems." (G.K. Chesterton) |
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From: Itzchak R. <izz...@qu...> - 2001-09-04 19:17:29
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Hi Tom, Tom Albers wrote: > After translating the manuals in dutch, I think I would be entitled to > request some features and I have a couple of remarks as well. So here > comes: > 1. The color format presented when you view/edit an entry seems to be > german. > 2. Same seems to be the case for the category (see as well the polish > requested earlier) Known. Added colors to it (forgot it in 2do). > 3. When you want to edit it does not seem to be possible to assign a > new number to it or switch the mediatyoe. This was done intentionally. Normally, a DVD does not transform into a tape (or vice versa :) Moreover, there have some other things to be regarded when changing mediatype: DVD->Tape (your example): New medium is now writeable and needs to be put into the cass table (for remaining space etc) Tape->DVD: the other way round, has to be removed from cass That's why it will stay this way *for this item*: there is another menue item planned for media number change (references concerned here as well), so it may be a good idea to do the same for MediaType. Did not think this would be necessary. Will be done *after* the next release (stability). > This makes it difficult if I copy > my dvd to tape and give my brother a nice DVD. ;-) Or mistakes are not > correctable. Just did not consider those cases. Makes sense, so I added it to the 2do. > 4. When adding a new entry, you should determine the next subnumber. > Why should I remember where I was on a particular tape (not the > latest, 'cause that's of course indicated). Or do you never delete a > movie (because you favorite actor suddenly decides to play in se* > movies;-). lol... good point. But there could be more than 500 tapes in - shall I list them up all? Or did you think of something like "auto_increment" for the $part (movie-nr on tape) if left blank? The latter would be not that hard to implement. > 5. Is it possible to adjust the position on the tape. Let's say I > taped 'friends' (one of my favorite series), I start taping a couple > of minutes earlier, so friends starts at minute 3, and the program > lasts for 35 minutes. This way you know the right time left on the > tape and I know when I'm rewinding to that position where to stop, > without viewing those commercials. Could not follow, sorry. Do you mean something like fields for "starts at" and "ends at"? In this case, there's already an item for counters on the 2do which would be usable for this. > 6. Can we create a 'simple' search function? We can use the filters > for 'advanced search' and use simple for finding quickly Die hard > back. I thought about an additional search function as well, but could not yet decide on the "how". An SQL input field? Or a form with select boxes for the field, and input boxes for the search string? Ideas? > 7. Another search function I miss is the option to see what's on a > tape. I'm always in a hurry and want to tape something, I grep a tape > and ask myself what's on it. So a quick look in the db would solve > that, just enter the number on the tape and it is fixed. Welcome. Have the same problem - just forgot to write it into the 2do - done. > --- damn what language is this in the demo site suddenly? Good point - must have been Polish :) > 8. It is not clear what is filtered and what not, so moving taperest > filtered to the filter menu item (and so on) could make that clearer. Don't think so. In this case you'ld always search for this item. Better to move both entries of the "Filter" menue to the edit menue (since one edits filters), but the list of remaining space belongs to the displayed items, so it has to be in "view". And I feel it is clear what is filtered - you just have to remember how the filters are set :) > That's it for now. There will be more (depending on your reaction) Oh my goodness... #-)) > Sleep wel. Again 6 mails in the list - guess it will be late tonight... </izzy> -- Itzchak Rehberg http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/ "Advance is the mother of problems." (G.K. Chesterton) |
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From: PAF <paf...@po...> - 2001-09-04 19:13:18
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jestem al enie wiem jeszcze jak tu sie poruszac :)) -----Original Message----- =46rom: php...@li... [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of Leszek Boroch Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 9:00 PM To: phpvideopro-developers Subject: [Phpvideopro-developers] More Polish lunguage people? Izzy wrote me that joined Piotr. Are you there? Jeste=B6 z Polski? --- Leszek Boroch eng: KISS! - Keep I= t Simple Stupid! Technical University of Lublin pol: BUZI! - Bez Udziwn= ien Zapisu Idioto! mailto: bo...@aj... lub: BUZI! - Bez Urzywania Zakreconego Interfejsu! _______________________________________________ Phpvideopro-developers mailing list Php...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpvideopro-developers =0D =0D -- =0D =0D OnetKomunikator - porozumiesz si=EA=0D z innymi [ http://ok.onet.pl/instaluj.html ]=0D =0D |
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From: Leszek B. <bo...@aj...> - 2001-09-04 19:04:02
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For now ssh says "permission denied", so something must be wrong in SF. I don't know what. --- Leszek Boroch eng: KISS! - Keep It Simple Stupid! Technical University of Lublin pol: BUZI! - Bez Udziwnien Zapisu Idioto! mailto: bo...@aj... lub: BUZI! - Bez Urzywania Zakreconego Interfejsu |
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From: Leszek B. <bo...@aj...> - 2001-09-04 19:02:09
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http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/utf8.html --- Leszek Boroch eng: KISS! - Keep It Simple Stupid! Technical University of Lublin pol: BUZI! - Bez Udziwnien Zapisu Idioto! mailto: bo...@aj... lub: BUZI! - Bez Urzywania Zakreconego Interfejsu! |
