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[Michael C. <mca...@ny...>]

John,

Files that start with a . are OK. I have played with the .htaccess  
file enough to be sure it is there.

There are a bunch of file in phpGedView in the ISR folder (ISR is  
inside places) that have \ in them.

Cheers,

Michael

RE: [Phpgedview-talk] file names with \

[John F. <Joh...@ne...>]

Hi Michael,

There shouldn't be any files with \ or / in their names (operating
systems won't allow you to create files with those characters in their
names).

I wasn't sure what a 553 error was, so I did some googling and found
this:
https://mail.fukt.bth.se/pipermail/crux/2005-May/004809.html

It looks like your host does not allow files which start with a "."
period.  There are a few files in the PGV releases that start with a
".":
.cvsignore
.htaccess
Includes/.htaccess
Index/.htaccess

The apache webserver looks for .htaccess files for settings and we
include some files for convenience.

Just erase the files that start with a .

--John


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Michael Calleia
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:45 PM
To: php...@li...
Subject: [Phpgedview-talk] file names with \

Hi,

I am still getting a 553 Prohibited file name when trying to install =20
3.3.7 as well. My server company says file names with a \ as big no-no.

What can I do? I can not imagine this is the only company with an =20
issue about \

Cheers,

Michael


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[Phpgedview-talk] file names with \

[Michael C. <mca...@ny...>]

Hi,

I am still getting a 553 Prohibited file name when trying to install  
3.3.7 as well. My server company says file names with a \ as big no-no.

What can I do? I can not imagine this is the only company with an  
issue about \

Cheers,

Michael

[Phpgedview-talk] 553 Prohibited file name?

[Michael C. <mca...@ny...>]

Hi,

I am currently running phpGedView version 3.2. While trying to  
upgrade to 3.3.5 I ran into a problem while uploading the files, I  
got the following error:
553 Prohibited file name: /public_html/phpGedView/places/IRS/IRS_\204 
\216\024o\22#2D9B18.txt

It appear a number of the file names are prohibited. Any ideas why  
and what I can do?

Cheers,

Michael

[Phpgedview-talk] I must change a child to another family

[<jgi...@t-...>]

Hello NG

How can I delete a child from the family A and then insert in family B?
Reason: the child was assigned to the wrong family.

Many thanks for the help
Josef

RE: [Phpgedview-talk] I must change a child to another family

[John F. <Joh...@ne...>]

In version 3.3.x you will have to do some editing of the raw GEDCOM to
accomplish this.

1. Go to the record of the child you want to move
2. Click edit raw gedcom record
3. Find the 1 FAMC @F###@ line and replace the old id with the ID of the
family you want that person to be in... for example 1 FAMC @F101@
4. Go to the record for the old family
5. Edit the raw gedcom record
6. Find the 1 CHIL @I###@ line with the ID to the INDI you want to
remove and remove that line from the record
7. Go to the record for the new family
8. Edit the raw gedcom record
9. Add a new 1 CHIL @I###@ line to link the family back to the child


In version 4.0 there is a new change family members option on the family
page which will allow you to do this.

--John

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Subject: Re: [Phpgedview-talk] I must change a child to another family

Hello John,

John Finlay wrote on 29.11.2005 19:47:
>=20
> Which version of PhpGedView are you using?
>=20
phpgedview 3.3.5

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Re: [Phpgedview-talk] I must change a child to another family

[<jgi...@t-...>]

Hello John,

John Finlay wrote on 29.11.2005 19:47:
> 
> Which version of PhpGedView are you using?
> 
phpgedview 3.3.5

Josef

RE: [Phpgedview-talk] I must change a child to another family

[John F. <Joh...@ne...>]

Hi Josef,

Which version of PhpGedView are you using?

--John


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Subject: [Phpgedview-talk] I must change a child to another family

Hello NG

How can I delete a child from the family A and then insert in family B?
Reason: the child was assigned to the wrong family.

Many thanks for the help
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[Phpgedview-talk] I must change a child to another family

[<jgi...@t-...>]

Hello NG

How can I delete a child from the family A and then insert in family B?
Reason: the child was assigned to the wrong family.

Many thanks for the help
Josef

[Phpgedview-talk] Configuring Welcome Page

[Megan <me...@ti...>]

Hi

 

As a new user, I am quite impressed with how easy it was to get phpGedView
up and running. It looked lovely and had all the options I needed for
visitors to view my genealogy

 

However, I had a bit of problem with my server which resulted in me having
to reinstall my entire website. When I finally got phpGedView installed and
working again, I find I can not see any of the blocks on the Welcome page,
and I am at a loss to find them anywhere on the site.

 

Where can I find the blocks to configure the Welcome page and how do I use
or edit them?

 

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Megan

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Re: [Phpgedview-talk] XML genealogy format

[waldo k. <wki...@al...>]

Roger Winget wrote:
> On 25/Oct/2005 20:00 waldo kitty wrote ..
> 
>>there should also be some way to indicate who the parents are without requiring
>>a marriage between them... however, i don't know that a dataformat is where
>>that stickywicket should be taken care of...
> 
> 
> The answer is simple.  Create a family element with a "type" attribute.  Type could
> be married, cohabitional (sp?), or single (something that the parents did not live
> together).

that does appear that it would work for XML stuffs but not for others ;)  i've had a few entries of similar nature that 
i've had to make over the years in several geneology programs... needless to say, 15+ years ago, we had to fake a 
marriage... over time, it has gotten better in those programs that i've used over the years... in most all cases, the 
problem has come down to the basic premise that children are born within a marriage and those writting the programs have 
forgotten about "wild sown seed" O:)

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Re: [Phpgedview-talk] XML genealogy format

[Roger W. <gen...@wi...>]

On 25/Oct/2005 20:00 waldo kitty wrote ..
> there should also be some way to indicate who the parents are without requiring
> a marriage between them... however, i don't know that a dataformat is where
> that stickywicket should be taken care of...

The answer is simple.  Create a family element with a "type" attribute.  Type could
be married, cohabitional (sp?), or single (something that the parents did not live
together).

aloha,
Roger

Re: [Phpgedview-talk] XML genealogy format

[waldo k. <wki...@al...>]

Roger Winget wrote:
> In this politically correct world, any new XML format should allow 2 moms or 2 dads as well

at least...

> as a single parent within a family.  Also on the note of families, the XML format should
> allow us to indicate the relationship of a child to a family (ie biological, adopted).

there should also be some way to indicate who the parents are without requiring a marriage between them... however, i 
don't know that a dataformat is where that stickywicket should be taken care of...

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RE: [Phpgedview-talk] XML genealogy format

[Alex R. <sh...@gr...>]

Roger,

Thanks for the feedback!

On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 13:41 -0600, Roger Winget wrote:
> I've looked over the sample XML file ( http://www.gramps-project.org/file=
s/data.gramps )
> and have a few comments.
>=20
> Your major tags have both an id and handle.  Just stick with one.

This is our existing format, and here's why we're using both at the
moment. The "handle" is the unique ID assigned by GRAMPS. It will never
be changed for a given person. The "id" is the user-visible ID that can
be changed, either manually (discouraged) or by re-ordering the IDs
from program tool. We're using both for the sake of backward
compatibility with the earlier GRAMPS formats. This does not have
to be the case for the general cross-software format.

What I envision for the more general format is that there will
be a single user-visible ID and possibly many software-specific IDs:
   <person id=3D"I0001">
      <uid source=3D"gramps" id=3D"_AKSD23234KHK432JH"/>
      <uid source=3D"phpgedview" id=3D"0234-lkj"/>
      <uid source=3D"ftm" id=3DFTM0123-P012"/>
      blah
   </person>
This way the unique IDs assigned by any program that processed the
data can be kept, without affecting either the user-visible IDs
or each other.

> I think given and surname are better labels than first and last as some c=
ultures
> reverse the order of names. I would suggest a fullname tag or attribute t=
hat shows
> all the name parts in the correct order.
>=20
> I suggest making change into its own tag that allows us to specify WHO ma=
de the change,
> not just the date of the last change.

Agreed.

> Date fields should accept partial dates, and should support BC.

This is already supported:
   <dateval val=3D"1897" type=3D"about"/>

Supported are: about, before, after, between A and B, from A to B,
estimated, calculated, as well as dates with missing day or month,
as well as the textual dates ("Christmas before John was born")
and BC. We should probably make a separate example featuring
all supported dates, I won't list the XML here.

> In this politically correct world, any new XML format should allow 2 moms=
 or 2 dads as well
> as a single parent within a family.  Also on the note of families, the XM=
L format should
> allow us to indicate the relationship of a child to a family (ie biologic=
al, adopted).

A missing "father" or "mother" tag would be a single parent.
The "mother" and "father" can be any gender, so 2 female parents or
2 male parents are supported. The relationship of child to a family
is already recorded. The default is birth (biological) and is omitted
in XML. But if it's anything else then:
   <childof hlink=3D"_S7MT6D1JSGX9PZO27F" mrel=3D"Stepchild" frel=3D"Adopte=
d"/>
where relationship to father (frel) and mother (mrel) do not have
to be the same.

> I would clean up the tag and attribute names a bit, but overall it's a gr=
eat start.

Thanks! The question I would like to ask is whether there is interest
outside GRAMPS to support similar XML format for data exchange. We are
happy with using this format, and keep adjusting it as we add new
features and fix bugs.

It seems that the wider genealogical community could benefit from
having a documented and extensible format that would be:
   1. improving GEDCOM's shortcomings
   2. community-supported: not tied to any single organization, church, etc
   3. naturally extensible: X in XML :-)
   4. supported by numerous XML tools: parsing, validation, transformations=
, etc

So while we definitely welcome the feedback on our format, we'd like
to collaborate with other genealogical software developers to develop
something common that we all can natively support.

Sorry for being redundant :-)
Alex

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RE: [Phpgedview-talk] XML genealogy format

[Roger W. <gen...@wi...>]

Alex,

I've looked over the sample XML file ( http://www.gramps-project.org/files/data.gramps )
and have a few comments.

Your major tags have both an id and handle.  Just stick with one.

I think given and surname are better labels than first and last as some cultures
reverse the order of names. I would suggest a fullname tag or attribute that shows
all the name parts in the correct order.

I suggest making change into its own tag that allows us to specify WHO made the change,
not just the date of the last change.

Date fields should accept partial dates, and should support BC.

In this politically correct world, any new XML format should allow 2 moms or 2 dads as well
as a single parent within a family.  Also on the note of families, the XML format should
allow us to indicate the relationship of a child to a family (ie biological, adopted).

I would clean up the tag and attribute names a bit, but overall it's a great start.

aloha,
Roger

RE: [Phpgedview-talk] XML genealogy format

[Alex R. <sh...@gr...>]

John,

Thanks for your response!

On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 17:01 -0600, John Finlay wrote:
> The first thing that popped in my head when I read this email was if you
> had looked at any of the other XML standards for genealogy such as
> XgenML or GEDCOM v6?  Would it be better to look at one of those that
> others also support?=20

Nobody supports those. GEDCOM 6 is abandoned unfinished,
and a variety of the proposed XML formats are nothing but
words. Our format has been working for many users for
some years now. In fact, it was our primary format up
to last year.

>  On the other hand if gramps actually exports data
> in an XML format (I don't know of other programs that do) then is there
> any reason to switch to another standard?

We are happy with our format, but we're looking for a broader
format to enable lossless transfer between different
software. GEDCOM has numerous limitations, leading to the
data loss on import/export with most software.

XML is a very appealing choice for such an open format,
and since we already have an XML genealogical format,
we thought that maybe we will start from there, if
anybody else is interested :-)

> PhpGedView uses GEDCOM as its base data model, so in order for PGV to
> support importing XML it would have to translate the XML back into
> GEDCOM at least for now.

I see. This can already be done. All programs including
GRAMPS can write into GEDCOM. The data gets lost, however.

>   In the future, the goal is to have the data
> abstract enough that it could be stored in an XML format.  Maybe a good
> place to start would be an XML export from PGV that could then be
> imported into gramps.
>=20
> Anytime you do a translation, there is going to be some data loss.  That
> is why PGV stores data in raw GEDCOM format.  We don't lose anything
> trying to convert gedcom into an internal data model.  But we there
> would probably still be some data loss in the translation from gedcom to
> XML.

I guess my point is that we'd like to have a better format
than GEDCOM, not convert to and from GEDCOM. Converting back and
forth makes any new exchange format meaningless.

> I think that this type of collaboration between projects would be a good
> thing.  I also think that we can get something going sooner than the
> commercial software can.
>=20
> Is there any documentation about your XML standard that we can read up
> on?

This page has formal documentation: DTD and RELAX NG schema:
   http://www.gramps-project.org/xml/1.0.0/

The example data file can be found here:
   http://www.gramps-project.org/files/data.gramps
It's actually very self-explanatory.

If you're still interested then we should definitely work
on this. If something in GRAMPS format does not seem
reasonable, we can discuss it and change it in the
new format. But ultimately, I think XML is a much
better choice for a common ground between different
software, for a number of reasons. If OpenDocument
could do it for the word processing, why can't we
do it with genealogy?

Alex

--=20
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RE: [Phpgedview-talk] XML genealogy format

[John F. <Joh...@ne...>]

Hi Alex,

The first thing that popped in my head when I read this email was if you
had looked at any of the other XML standards for genealogy such as
XgenML or GEDCOM v6?  Would it be better to look at one of those that
others also support?  On the other hand if gramps actually exports data
in an XML format (I don't know of other programs that do) then is there
any reason to switch to another standard?

PhpGedView uses GEDCOM as its base data model, so in order for PGV to
support importing XML it would have to translate the XML back into
GEDCOM at least for now.  In the future, the goal is to have the data
abstract enough that it could be stored in an XML format.  Maybe a good
place to start would be an XML export from PGV that could then be
imported into gramps.

Anytime you do a translation, there is going to be some data loss.  That
is why PGV stores data in raw GEDCOM format.  We don't lose anything
trying to convert gedcom into an internal data model.  But we there
would probably still be some data loss in the translation from gedcom to
XML.

I think that this type of collaboration between projects would be a good
thing.  I also think that we can get something going sooner than the
commercial software can.

Is there any documentation about your XML standard that we can read up
on?

Thanks,
--John


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From: php...@li...
[mailto:php...@li...] On Behalf Of Alex
Roitman
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 3:46 PM
To: php...@li...
Cc: Don Allingham
Subject: [Phpgedview-talk] XML genealogy format

Hello,

I am a member of the development team of GRAMPS, a personal
desktop genealogy program that is Free/Open source.

We are constantly facing problems of supporting users who
come with their data in GEDCOM format created by various software.
The limitations of the GEDCOM format are preventing the lossless
data transfer between the programs. Different programs are extending
the GEDCOM standard in different ways and these extensions are
sometimes hard to learn about.

We would like to develop an open XML genealogy data format.
We have an existing XML data format that used to be our primary
format. Lately we switched to using BSDDB for storage, but we
still maintain our XML for transferring data between the versions.

We feel that this format would be a good starting point for
developing cross-application XML format for genealogy. We know
that similar attempts were done before and did not get anywhere.
However, our situation is better than most, because we already
have a working implementation and it is not just the proposal.

We would like to invite the phpgedview developers to collaborate
with us on developing such a format. It seems that we should be
able to find common language with fellow Free software developers
sooner than those of commercial software.

While we realize that GEDCOM is a de-facto standard, however
poor it is, we would be thrilled if the phpgedview developers
were interested in adding support for our format and/or giving
us feedback on the format it would be great.

If you might be interested in collaborating on this, please
let us know. You may either reply to me personally, to this list,
or post to our list at gra...@li...
whatever works for you.

Thanks in advance,
Alex

--=20
Alexander Roitman   http://www.gramps-project.org

[Phpgedview-talk] XML genealogy format

[Alex R. <sh...@gr...>]

Hello,

I am a member of the development team of GRAMPS, a personal
desktop genealogy program that is Free/Open source.

We are constantly facing problems of supporting users who
come with their data in GEDCOM format created by various software.
The limitations of the GEDCOM format are preventing the lossless
data transfer between the programs. Different programs are extending
the GEDCOM standard in different ways and these extensions are
sometimes hard to learn about.

We would like to develop an open XML genealogy data format.
We have an existing XML data format that used to be our primary
format. Lately we switched to using BSDDB for storage, but we
still maintain our XML for transferring data between the versions.

We feel that this format would be a good starting point for
developing cross-application XML format for genealogy. We know
that similar attempts were done before and did not get anywhere.
However, our situation is better than most, because we already
have a working implementation and it is not just the proposal.

We would like to invite the phpgedview developers to collaborate
with us on developing such a format. It seems that we should be
able to find common language with fellow Free software developers
sooner than those of commercial software.

While we realize that GEDCOM is a de-facto standard, however
poor it is, we would be thrilled if the phpgedview developers
were interested in adding support for our format and/or giving
us feedback on the format it would be great.

If you might be interested in collaborating on this, please
let us know. You may either reply to me personally, to this list,
or post to our list at gra...@li...
whatever works for you.

Thanks in advance,
Alex

--=20
Alexander Roitman   http://www.gramps-project.org

[Phpgedview-talk] Memory problems

[Gordon S. <go...@tr...>]

Hello,
I am running v3.3.6 with Apache v2.0.54 and mod_php 4.4.0 
on a Linux box. The machine is an AMD64 with 1 GIG of 
RAM.The GEDCOM file is 5 MB with roughly 30,000 
individuals. MySQL db.

I'm getting very unusual memory race problems. If I do 
something like this:
http://forexample.com/phpgeview/individual.php?pid=I07209&ged=Dilbriel%20Digbertged.
Notice I've left off the GED extension. File was also 
upload with a space in it. Hence the %20, however I don't 
know if that makes a difference.
Has anyone else had problems of this nature?

Thanks,
Gordon

RE: [Phpgedview-talk] Places

[John F. <Joh...@ne...>]

Hi Jubal,

A lot of information about this can be found in the forums here:
https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=3D1269926&forum_id=3D18=
516
5

--John



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From: php...@li...
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Molina
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 5:11 AM
To: php...@li...
Subject: Re: [Phpgedview-talk] Places

Is there any section on the website where I can lern how to create a
place?
> This question may have been asked before but I could not find the
answer
> to it. I would like to create a map of Puerto Rico for the Place
> Hierarchy section. I have an image of Puerto Rico divided by counties.
I
> created a HTML page (PR.htm) with only the map section. I used
> dreamweaver to get the coordinates. I added the javascript portion to
> each line of the area:
>    <area href=3D"javascript:setPlaceState('Arecibo(Arecibo)')"
> alt=3D"Arecibo"              title=3D"Arecibo"             =
shape=3D"poly"
>
coords=3D"407,76,404,187,428,175,439,184,442,199,470,194,475,183,492,190,=
5
17,189,532,179,542,156,534,133,540,109,541,93,535,88,518,87,490,94,464,8
1,451,86,433,85,412,79"
>>. I Created a text file with the county names called PR.txt. The
> island will only have 2 levels PR and the county. What am I doing
> wrong? I appreciate any help. Thank  you.
>
>
> --
> Jubal
>
>
>
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Re: [Phpgedview-talk] problem again

[<jgi...@t-...>]

Hello, John Finlay wrote on 11.10.2005 23:46:
>>>The easiest thing would be to remove the link to the person from the
>>>family record by using the raw edit feature and then add the person
>>>again.
>>
>>Also when I try to delete the individual from the family (he is the 
>>father) I receive the same error info.
>>
>>greetings Josef
> 
> ... You can add the following lines to your gedcom file just before 
> the 0 TRLR line and then reimport it:
> 0 @I8946@ INDI
> 1 NAME Change /Me/
> 1 SEX M
> 
> 0 TRLR
That's what I did and now it works again.

Thank you very much

greetings Josef

Re: [Phpgedview-talk] Places

[Jubal M. <ju...@mo...>]

Is there any section on the website where I can lern how to create a place?
> This question may have been asked before but I could not find the answer
> to it. I would like to create a map of Puerto Rico for the Place
> Hierarchy section. I have an image of Puerto Rico divided by counties. I
> created a HTML page (PR.htm) with only the map section. I used
> dreamweaver to get the coordinates. I added the javascript portion to
> each line of the area:
>    <area href="javascript:setPlaceState('Arecibo(Arecibo)')"
> alt="Arecibo"              title="Arecibo"             shape="poly"
> coords="407,76,404,187,428,175,439,184,442,199,470,194,475,183,492,190,517,189,532,179,542,156,534,133,540,109,541,93,535,88,518,87,490,94,464,81,451,86,433,85,412,79"
>>. I Created a text file with the county names called PR.txt. The
> island will only have 2 levels PR and the county. What am I doing
> wrong? I appreciate any help. Thank  you.
>
>
> --
> Jubal
>
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RE: [Phpgedview-talk] problem again

[John F. <Joh...@ne...>]

>> The easiest thing would be to remove the link to the person from the
>> family record by using the raw edit feature and then add the person
>> again.
> Also when I try to delete the individual from the family (he is the=20
> father) I receive the same error info.
>=20
> greetings Josef

Open your GEDCOM file in a text editor and search for the ID, I8946.  My
guess is that there is not an individual record for I8946 but there is a
reference to it in a family record (1 HUSB @I8946@ or 1 WIFE @I8946@ or
1 CHIL @I8946@).

You can add the following lines to your gedcom file just before the 0
TRLR line and then reimport it:
0 @I8946@ INDI
1 NAME Change /Me/
1 SEX M

0 TRLR

You should then be able to edit the individual.

--John

Re: [Phpgedview-talk] problem again

[<jgi...@t-...>]

Hello John,

John Finlay wrote on 11.10.2005 17:55:
> Hi Josef,
> 
> Probably what happened is that the individual ID was linked into the
> family record but, the actual record itself was not added to the GEDCOM
> file.
> 
> The easiest thing would be to remove the link to the person from the
> family record by using the raw edit feature and then add the person
> again.
Also when I try to delete the individual from the family (he is the 
father) I receive the same error info.

greetings Josef

RE: [Phpgedview-talk] problem again

[John F. <Joh...@ne...>]

Hi Josef,

Probably what happened is that the individual ID was linked into the
family record but, the actual record itself was not added to the GEDCOM
file.

The easiest thing would be to remove the link to the person from the
family record by using the raw edit feature and then add the person
again.

You could also manually add an individual record for the person to the
GEDCOM file.

--John


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Subject: [Phpgedview-talk] problem again

Hello,

I have a new problem. During input an individual my computer stopped and

broke the program.

Now I have an individual without any data. When I try to change or add=20
data I receive this error info:

Access denied
You don't have any permission for this.
The data protection attitudes prevent that you can work on this data=20
set. You don't have access to pid I8946.

Where can I change the protection attitudes?

greetings Josef


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