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[Phpgedview-talk] abuse of mailbox - has it to do with sun tzu???

[<po...@jo...>]

Hi, 

The mailbox associated with the site I have my phpgedview installed is recently abused by 
spammers. My provider suspects phpgedview as the cause. I did not yet update to the 
most recent version, so I am wondering if the Sun Tzu hacker has anything to do with this 
abuse. 

Of course I am updateing to version 3.3.8 now, but I want to be sure that attacks are past 

Gtreetings, Jos Maas--

Met vriendelijke groet
Drs. J.P.M. Maas
Aalberselanen 10
3445 TB Woerden
0348 - 41 63 57

Re: [Phpgedview-talk] SAMARINDAHACK

[Tastiger <tas...@sc...>]

Do you really think the IP address will actually reflect the 
attacker's real IP????

At 18:17 7/04/2006, you wrote:
>Can you look at your sites stats and tell us what IP the hacker used?

Re: [Phpgedview-talk] SAMARINDAHACK

[Chris K. <chr...@gm...>]

Dave,
Bad luck indeed.
Can you look at your sites stats and tell us what IP the hacker used?

Thanks,
Chris

David Cozens wrote:
> I'd be really careful with this.
>  
> within my phpGedViw directory all of the files at the top level have 
> gone, my as have my index folder and media folder,  I've certainly 
> lost some stuff. I have now deleted the index.html that was injected 
> into my site.
>  
> The attack happened when I was uploading an image file
>  
> Dave
>
>
> HELP
>  
> My site has just been hacked. I was in the middle of using phpGedView 
> when my main phpGedView screen has disappeared to be replaced by a 
> hacked page titled #SAMARINDAHACK komenk was here.
>  
> Does anyone know how to get rid of this or if I have to reinstall how 
> do I protect against it.
>  
> I did have an install of PGV 3.3.8
>  
> Many thanks for any help Dave

RE: [Phpgedview-talk] SAMARINDAHACK

[David C. <Da...@co...>]

I'd be really careful with this.
 
within my phpGedViw directory all of the files at the top level have gone,
my as have my index folder and media folder,  I've certainly lost some
stuff. I have now deleted the index.html that was injected into my site.
 
The attack happened when I was uploading an image file
 
Dave


HELP
 
My site has just been hacked. I was in the middle of using phpGedView when
my main phpGedView screen has disappeared to be replaced by a hacked page
titled #SAMARINDAHACK komenk was here.
 
Does anyone know how to get rid of this or if I have to reinstall how do I
protect against it.
 
I did have an install of PGV 3.3.8
 
Many thanks for any help Dave

[Phpgedview-talk] SAMARINDAHACK

[David C. <Da...@co...>]

HELP
 
My site has just been hacked. I was in the middle of using phpGedView when
my main phpGedView screen has disappeared to be replaced by a hacked page
titled #SAMARINDAHACK komenk was here.
 
Does anyone know how to get rid of this or if I have to reinstall how do I
protect against it.
 
I did have an install of PGV 3.3.8
 
Many thanks for any help Dave

[Phpgedview-talk] Having trouble configuring PHPGEDVIEW on Janhost

[razor66666 <br...@ho...>]

I have a website on JanHost.  It seems to have PHP.  I am able to use the
phpgedview test.php file and it runs.  I have MYSQL on it.  I am able to run
basic database queries and have it post to my website with PHP. 
http://sizemore.10e.net/phpGedView/viewdb.php
I have uploaded the files to the site.  I have altered the config.php file. 
I have even opened up the permissions to 777.  Still no luck.  I am using
the phpGedView-4.0beta6-all.  What am I missing?  I really want to use this
tool.  

http://sizemore.10e.net/phpGedView/admin.php
http://sizemore.10e.net/phpGedView/
http://sizemore.10e.net/phpGedView/index.php

Sorry I am such a nubie at this product.  Or is it Janhost.


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RE: [Phpgedview-talk] GEDCOM file with more than 16.000 individuals - problems to install this

[Josef T. <jo...@th...>]

HI=20

Where can I normally find the PHP LOG file. I don't find one.

Best Regards
Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen

Josef Thomalla
Grasweg 17
D-33415 Verl
Deutschland

Telefon.: 	+49 5246 1545
mobil:	+49 160 884 0198

eMail:	jo...@th...
Web site:	www.thomalla.info


-----Original Message-----
From: php...@li...
[mailto:php...@li...] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 2:37 PM
To: php...@li...
Subject: Re: [Phpgedview-talk] GEDCOM file with more than 16.000
individuals - problems to install this


Also, just thought of this, if this is a php problem, look into your php
log file. =20
That should settle if the problem is php related or something else.

john

On 17 Mar 2006 at 9:02, Josef Thomalla wrote:

> >Hi  all.
> >
> >I like to install a very big GEDCOM file in PhpGedView Version 4.0=20
> >Beta 3. The install stopped sometime after 35 % or 47% or 76 % and it

> >never runs to the end.
> >The file has 3769.69Kb.
> >
> >Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen
> >Josef Thomalla
> >Grasweg 17
> >D-33415 Verl
> >Deutschland
> >Telefon.: 	+49 5246 1545
> >mobil:	+49 160 884 0198
> >eMail: 	jo...@th...
> >Web site:www.thomalla.info
> >
>=20




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Re: [Phpgedview-talk] GEDCOM file with more than 16.000 individuals - problems to install this

[Keith C. <ke...@dr...>]

Len wrote:
>
> There is a mysql admin gui that will enable you to do the database creation,
> as mysql is, like many programs from the unix/linux/C world, clumsy and non
> intuitive. 
>   
I'd recommend you try PhpMyAdmin, it's by far the best MySQL interface 
I've used.  You can find it at http://www.phpmyadmin.net
It's web based and cross platform compatible.

Keith

RE: [Phpgedview-talk] GEDCOM file with more than 16.000 individuals - problems to install this

[Len <llu...@in...>]

There are at least 3 places that need the max_time variable increased.
The first is the php.ini file. This file can be found in several places,
search for it.   I finally found the used file, on my system, in the =
winnt
directory (sometimes called windows).

The other 2 are in phpgeview one in the database config [$TIME_LIMIT =3D
"720";](the 720 is what I use as normal-not for imports) and one in
phpgedview config.[config.php- $PGV_SESSION_TIME =3D "720";] (the 720 is =
what
I use as normal-not for imports) Use wordpad to find the variable, then =
when
you find it, use notepad to change it- use the Search/Replace to change =
it.
The config files do not have CRLF at the end of the lines, and sometimes =
if
you save using wordpad(which adds them) phpgedview will not read it
correctly. Sometimes is will.

Both of these can be changed using phpgedview. I know they can, but, I =
could
not get them to stay changed. I ended up starting the import process and
then just before it started to process the file, changing the variable.
(phpgedview seem to read the config files at least 3 times during
processing.

I have about 75,000 folks and I set it to about 8000 or .1 sec per =
record.
It does take hours to process. The PHP 5 interpreter is slow, and =
phpgedview
is not written for speed.

Be sure you use mysql rather than the index. PhpGedview will take =
minutes to
just load the welcome page otherwise. =20

There is a mysql admin gui that will enable you to do the database =
creation,
as mysql is, like many programs from the unix/linux/C world, clumsy and =
non
intuitive.=20

Why did they let Dbase die?=20

Len

-----Original Message-----
From: php...@li...
[mailto:php...@li...] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 6:35 AM
To: php...@li...
Subject: Re: [Phpgedview-talk] GEDCOM file with more than 16.000 =
individuals
- problems to install this

I haven't run into this problem, but you might want to chk your =
php-script=20
time (not sure if that the proper term for it).  You might be timing =
out. =20
There is a value in your php.ini file that controls how long a php file =
will
run. =20
I'm sure that someone can clarify this a little bit clearer.

john

On 17 Mar 2006 at 9:02, Josef Thomalla wrote:

> >Hi  all.
> >
> >I like to install a very big GEDCOM file in PhpGedView Version 4.0
> >Beta 3.
> >The install stopped sometime after 35 % or 47% or 76 % and it never
> >runs to the end.
> >The file has 3769.69Kb.
> >
> >Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen
> >Josef Thomalla
> >Grasweg 17
> >D-33415 Verl
> >Deutschland
> >Telefon.: 	+49 5246 1545
> >mobil:	+49 160 884 0198
> >eMail: 	jo...@th...
> >Web site:www.thomalla.info
> >
>=20




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RE: [Phpgedview-talk] Problems with Relationship Chart

[John F. <Joh...@ne...>]

Hi David,

There has already been a bug posted about this.  See
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=3Ddetail&aid=3D981030&grou=
p_i
d=3D55456&atid=3D477079

Fixing it will require rewriting the search algorithm which calculates
the relationships.

--John


-----Original Message-----
From: php...@li...
[mailto:php...@li...] On Behalf Of David
Cozens
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 7:38 AM
To: php...@li...
Subject: [Phpgedview-talk] Problems with Relationship Chart

I'm having trouble with PGV 3.3.8 and the relationship.php page.

I have discovered that my Gradfather's parents have a common ancestor
many
generations back and I am unable to get the second link to show up by
clicking on the Find Next Path button. If however I reverse the order of
the
individual ID in the Person 1 and Person 2 box then the second path is
shown.

Is there some internal limit on how far PGV will look for alternate
paths?
Is there a setting I can change somewhere or have I uncovered a bug.

Incase I havn't made myself clear the problem can be demonstrated on my
site
by following these instructions.

Go to http://www.cozensweb.co.uk/phpGedView/relationship.php

Enter person 1 as I0023 and person 2 as I0616 and click view. The
resulting
line starts from Arthur Edward Wisewell, and the next is Albert Edward
Wisewell through to Thomas Stare.

Now ensure that the Check relationships by marriage box is not ticked
and
select "Find Next Path" button. You will see "No (other) link between
the
two individuals could be found."

If you now enter person 1 as I0616 and person 2 as I0023 and click view
a
different line appears starting Arthur Edward Wisewell, then Ellen
Collins
through to Thomas Stare. Now clicking the Find Next Path seems to work.

Why if I have the IDs in the order I0023 then I0616 does the feature not
work and it does when I have I0616 then I0023?

Any suggestions gratefully received.

Thanks Dave



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[Phpgedview-talk] Problems with Relationship Chart

[David C. <Da...@co...>]

I'm having trouble with PGV 3.3.8 and the relationship.php page.

I have discovered that my Gradfather's parents have a common ancestor many
generations back and I am unable to get the second link to show up by
clicking on the Find Next Path button. If however I reverse the order of the
individual ID in the Person 1 and Person 2 box then the second path is
shown.

Is there some internal limit on how far PGV will look for alternate paths?
Is there a setting I can change somewhere or have I uncovered a bug.

Incase I havn't made myself clear the problem can be demonstrated on my site
by following these instructions.

Go to http://www.cozensweb.co.uk/phpGedView/relationship.php

Enter person 1 as I0023 and person 2 as I0616 and click view. The resulting
line starts from Arthur Edward Wisewell, and the next is Albert Edward
Wisewell through to Thomas Stare.

Now ensure that the Check relationships by marriage box is not ticked and
select "Find Next Path" button. You will see "No (other) link between the
two individuals could be found."

If you now enter person 1 as I0616 and person 2 as I0023 and click view a
different line appears starting Arthur Edward Wisewell, then Ellen Collins
through to Thomas Stare. Now clicking the Find Next Path seems to work.

Why if I have the IDs in the order I0023 then I0616 does the feature not
work and it does when I have I0616 then I0023?

Any suggestions gratefully received.

Thanks Dave

[Phpgedview-talk] mktime() error

[John <sh...@jb...>]

I wonder if someone could point this error out for me.  I sometimes get the following errors:


[16-Mar-2006 20:04:32] PHP Warning:  mktime() expects parameter 4 to be long, string given in 
D:\website\phpged\blocks\upcoming_events.php on line 130
[16-Mar-2006 20:04:32] PHP Warning:  mktime() expects parameter 5 to be long, string given in 
D:\website\phpged\blocks\upcoming_events.php on line 130

I'm running php 5.1.2, Apache 2.0.55, Win2k, phpged 3.3.8

john

Re: [Phpgedview-talk] GEDCOM file with more than 16.000 individuals - problems to install this

[John <sh...@jb...>]

Also, just thought of this, if this is a php problem, look into your php l=
og file.  
That should settle if the problem is php related or something else.

john

On 17 Mar 2006 at 9:02, Josef Thomalla wrote:

> >Hi  all.
> >
> >I like to install a very big GEDCOM file in PhpGedView Version 4.0
> >Beta 3.
> >The install stopped sometime after 35 % or 47% or 76 % and it never
> >runs to the end.
> >The file has 3769.69Kb.
> >
> >Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen
> >Josef Thomalla
> >Grasweg 17
> >D-33415 Verl
> >Deutschland
> >Telefon.: 	+49 5246 1545
> >mobil:	+49 160 884 0198
> >eMail: 	jo...@th...
> >Web site:www.thomalla.info
> >
> 

Re: [Phpgedview-talk] GEDCOM file with more than 16.000 individuals - problems to install this

[John <sh...@jb...>]

I haven't run into this problem, but you might want to chk your php-script=
 
time (not sure if that the proper term for it).  You might be timing out. =
 
There is a value in your php.ini file that controls how long a php file wi=
ll run.  
I'm sure that someone can clarify this a little bit clearer.

john

On 17 Mar 2006 at 9:02, Josef Thomalla wrote:

> >Hi  all.
> >
> >I like to install a very big GEDCOM file in PhpGedView Version 4.0
> >Beta 3.
> >The install stopped sometime after 35 % or 47% or 76 % and it never
> >runs to the end.
> >The file has 3769.69Kb.
> >
> >Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen
> >Josef Thomalla
> >Grasweg 17
> >D-33415 Verl
> >Deutschland
> >Telefon.: 	+49 5246 1545
> >mobil:	+49 160 884 0198
> >eMail: 	jo...@th...
> >Web site:www.thomalla.info
> >
> 

[Phpgedview-talk] FW: PGV Version 4.0 Beta 3 - MEDIA problems

[Josef T. <jo...@th...>]

>Hi all.
>
>When I have a small GEDCOM file up to 188.87Kb, I do not have
>problems to add pictures to the persons.=20
>I have some other GEDCOM files on my site with 493.98Kb and more and
>when I will add a picture. It do not work.
>
>Is there a limitation for the GEDCOM file to add pictures?
>
>Best Regards
>Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen
>Josef Thomalla
>Grasweg 17
>D-33415 Verl
>Deutschland
>Telefon.: 	+49 5246 1545
>mobil:	+49 160 884 0198
>eMail: 	jo...@th...
>Web site:www.thomalla.info
>

[Phpgedview-talk] GEDCOM file with more than 16.000 individuals - problems to install this

[Josef T. <jo...@th...>]

>Hi  all.
>
>I like to install a very big GEDCOM file in PhpGedView Version 4.0
>Beta 3.
>The install stopped sometime after 35 % or 47% or 76 % and it never
>runs to the end.
>The file has 3769.69Kb.
>
>Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen
>Josef Thomalla
>Grasweg 17
>D-33415 Verl
>Deutschland
>Telefon.: 	+49 5246 1545
>mobil:	+49 160 884 0198
>eMail: 	jo...@th...
>Web site:www.thomalla.info
>

RE: [Phpgedview-talk] media

[John <sh...@jb...>]

Thanks, sometimes the easiest things is just appears to complicated!  
Works like a champ!  Man, I would have hated to have to individual load 
200 megs worth of photos

john!

On 14 Mar 2006 at 14:07, John Finlay wrote:

> If you already have a GEDCOM with FILE tags in it that attach the media
> items to the people in your GEDCOM file.  Then all you should have to do
> is upload and import your GEDCOM and then upload the media files to the
> media directory.
> 
> --John
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: php...@li...
> [mailto:php...@li...] On Behalf Of John
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:11 PM
> To: php...@li...
> Subject: [Phpgedview-talk] media
> 
> I've got a question as to adding a bunch of media files.  I want to add
> a 
> large gedcom file that has a large number of media files linked to it.
> What 
> is the best way to add them, other than having to add them one-by-one to
> 
> each individual?
> 
> Is it possible to add the gedcom file and then add the files to the
> media 
> directory?  Or should I just edit the gedcom file and change the media 
> directory to what I need or ....
> 
> john
> 
> 
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[Phpgedview-talk] Problems with linking pictures to people in some GEDCOM files.

[Josef T. <jo...@th...>]

Dear all.

I am new to this list and I hope, there are some people who are very =
good informed about some problems with PhpGedView 4.o Beta3 what I have =
running on my web site.

Let me explain my problem:

On my WEB-Site I have some different GEDCOM-Files. In the File =
"Jacobfeuerborn - Verl - Deutschland", I do not have any problems to =
implement pictures. But when I will do the same in the file "Thomalla - =
Landsberg - Test", for example, after I have selected the picture and I =
have do all the other information into the formular, I press the button =
named "Speichern" in German and, I think it is the same like "Save" in =
the english version. After this, I get a blank page with response from =
my browser in the bottom "Ready".

On the "Jacobfeuerborn" GEDCOM, I get some text in the site wit a Link =
to close this site. I miss this in some of the other GEDCOM's.

What I have todo to solve this problem?

I work with Version 4 Beta 3.

Thank's for help

Best Regards from Germany
Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen
Josef Thomalla
Grasweg 17
D-33415 Verl
Deutschland
Telefon.: 	+49 5246 1545
mobil:	+49 160 884 0198
eMail: 	jo...@th...
Web site:www.thomalla.info

Re: [Phpgedview-talk] media

[Matthew G. <ma...@po...>]

On Tuesday 14 Mar 2006 19:10, John wrote:
> I've got a question as to adding a bunch of media files.  I want to
> add a large gedcom file that has a large number of media files
> linked to it.  What is the best way to add them, other than having
> to add them one-by-one to each individual?
>
> Is it possible to add the gedcom file and then add the files to the
> media directory?  Or should I just edit the gedcom file and change
> the media directory to what I need or ....

Yes, but don't forget to make the thumbnails and put them in the 
thumbms sub-directory.

>
> john
>
>
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RE: [Phpgedview-talk] media

[John F. <Joh...@ne...>]

If you already have a GEDCOM with FILE tags in it that attach the media
items to the people in your GEDCOM file.  Then all you should have to do
is upload and import your GEDCOM and then upload the media files to the
media directory.

--John


-----Original Message-----
From: php...@li...
[mailto:php...@li...] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:11 PM
To: php...@li...
Subject: [Phpgedview-talk] media

I've got a question as to adding a bunch of media files.  I want to add
a=20
large gedcom file that has a large number of media files linked to it.
What=20
is the best way to add them, other than having to add them one-by-one to

each individual?

Is it possible to add the gedcom file and then add the files to the
media=20
directory?  Or should I just edit the gedcom file and change the media=20
directory to what I need or ....

john


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[Phpgedview-talk] media

[John <sh...@jb...>]

I've got a question as to adding a bunch of media files.  I want to add a 
large gedcom file that has a large number of media files linked to it.  What 
is the best way to add them, other than having to add them one-by-one to 
each individual?

Is it possible to add the gedcom file and then add the files to the media 
directory?  Or should I just edit the gedcom file and change the media 
directory to what I need or ....

john

[Phpgedview-talk] error importing places

[waldo k. <wki...@al...>]

i've just completely wiped my database and existing phpGedView and am starting fresh anew with version 3.3.8 (up from 
3.2final)... the problem i am having is related to importing a 12meg gedcom... everything goes fine up to the point of 
importing place records... during the normal import, there are 23053 individuals, 8307 families, 176 sources, and 80 
REPO (??) imported... all these within the alloted 600 seconds... then we click on the "continue importing places" 
button and get the following...

ERROR:-1 DB Error: unknown error
SQL:SELECT * FROM pgv_individuals WHERE i_file='all.ged' ORDER BY i_surname [nativecode=6 ** Error on delete of 
'.\MYe00190' (Errcode: 13)]


Fatal error: Call to undefined function: numrows() in F:\os2httpd\lewisgen\htdocs\phpgedview\includes\functions_db.php 
on line 1061


so what is the problem here? is it due to a problem withmysql not being able to delete the temporary file MYe00190? i've 
increased the memory setting in the config from 32meg to 64meg and the filename has increased from "c" to "e"... perhaps 
more memory is needed to be allocated??? this error pops up within 60 seconds of clicking on the button...

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[Phpgedview-talk] Off topic - php advice

[Keith C. <ke...@dr...>]

I know this may be a long shot, but here it goes... I'm looking for some 
advice from some PHP coders, and I know the devs here working on 
PhpGedView really know their stuff.

I basically need advice to get me pointed in the right direction.  I've 
tried at various forums, but no one has replied to my posts for several 
weeks now.  I'm not going to try to ask you to do any code for me, but 
to point me towards what I need to learn to do what I need to do... 
So... If any of you gurus feel like helping to set a PHP novice in the 
right direction... please email me off list at ke...@dr...

Thanks!

Keith Conley

[Phpgedview-talk] Adding a family without a spouse

[Tony Abou-A. <ta...@ac...>]

Hello,

How can I create or add a family (particularly, add children) to person
who's spouse is unknown?

So far I've been creating a dummy wife, adding children, then deleting the
wife; a lengthly and annoying procedure. Is there a better way?

Thanks!

TAA

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Brock University, St. Catharines, ON, Canada, L2S 3A1
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RE: [Phpgedview-talk] Ancestry.com and their "One World Tree"

[Len <llu...@in...>]

Import it into PAF or another Genealogy program via gedcoms, merge it,
export it into another gedcom, then import into phpgedview.

 

1000 records are piece of cake for all of them.  As you get more data, into
the tens of 1000's Phpgedview is way to slow to use as a genealogy program.
It takes every operation sec to a couple of minutes, maybe a top of ten, to
just find & display info.

 

Len

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From: php...@li...
[mailto:php...@li...] On Behalf Of S.C. Gehl
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:06 PM
To: Php...@li...
Subject: [Phpgedview-talk] Ancestry.com and their "One World Tree"

 

Cheers

Is there anyway to integrate or reference the "One World Tree" into PGV?

I have been playing on there today. With their 14 day free trial, I have
been able to expand my family tree by 6 generations on several branches. 

I have been able to grab a massive amount of microfiche copies as well as
pictures of ships my family immigrated on.

My family tree went from 147 individuals largely obtained from living
relatives, to 450 individuals obtained from public records and other
researches I have met since joining ancestry.com

It would be amazing to beable to pull data into PGV directly from the
resources at ancestry.com


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