Well the obvious reason is that if we wish to change the form after the first iteration (ie. add new fields, pages, etc.) the form is not saved. So when we make changes and re-download the files, we get a zip file of the original form, not the enhanced/changed form.
Maybe this issue has been resolved. However, I am monitoring this forum and have not yet seen a reply stating the issue is resolved.
Okay. Here are the bugs I encountered IN THE FORM GENERATOR ITSELF while making my form. It was an irritating experience. I later corrected the mistakes by FODIY (Find Out & Do It Yourself) method. I am not any kind of knower of any language.
1. If you have a drop down list box, then each time you press the "Update Field" button you are going to have the order of the list changed!
2. If the tool tip is bigger than the tool tip rectangle, then the rectangle wouldn't size it self. The text would keep hanging out of the rectangle! This rectangle must be "exact fit" or something.
3. You can see another tool tip button poking in a tool tip rectangle while viewing this tip!
4. In my form, I was unable to move a field up that I added later. At first I was able to move the upper fields down, but later, even that wouldn't happen.
5. Although you can specify the size of the letters for a text box, but you can type as much as you like!
I hope now I have done my part of reporting the errors. I shall report the errors IN THE FORM once I am able to figure how a form is used to generate data to MySQL (or wherever the hell! I am new to this business), and be able to properly use it.
I have removed the "form generated by..." line, but would place it in its appropriate place: the Credits page.
Thanks
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"phpFormGenerator v3.0 demo site"
It's a "demo" site for a reason. I am sure the creator will be happy to confirm any bugs, but as a demo site bugs are expected and you are identifying some known, maybe some unknown bugs. When a sufficient number of users identify bugs a new version will arise with fixes applied.
Thanks to everybody for your input but remember, this software is still free and the time and effort required to provide this free SW is not trivial.
I am here to support you whenever you need help and until such time that all bugs are resolved, but again my services are also free of charge and I am not available 24 hours a day.
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All right. I forgot to add that the form is fantastic, and the irritation was very small in amount! Now here a couple of more bugs and some queries.
Bug 1
The notepad-&-pen icon does not bring about any desciption box.
Bug 2
I attached a file 129mB, when the capacity given was 60mB, and it took away the whole file!
Queries
Suppose, if I have to change my venue of submission from one to another of the 3 you have offered, then can you say if all I need to do is download another form with the right choice with just one field added, and then replace all the code except the form data and the Java script below it? I hope it would do the task.
My host gives me Fantastico DeLux, which gives me 2.09c of the form. Is that a bug free stable version?
Actually, I only feel a little surprised, that how come some very starkly visible mistakes escape the builder of the form. Does he not test the form like a normal user for say, a couple of hours? May be he limits himself to just seeing if the command he scripted "runs", and not if it runs with the whole thing plugged in the page on the site here.
You look online, so I thought you might answer these now itself!
Thanks
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Queries
1.) I'm not sure exactly what you are asking so I'll leave this one alone for now.
2.) 2.09c is alot less troublesome but has fewer features. The issues reported are nearly 100% instalation related.
3.) Plenty of testing was done. I even did some myself. I was surprised when comments started coming in but after reviewing the details I realized I never would have tested some of the issues only because I know the way the generator works and am very familiar with creating forms. I would never have gone through the steps some people have because I typically know exactly what I want the form to look like before I start making the form.
In most cases my testing resulted in perfectly working forms. When I got to the point of making larger and more custom forms I got into the habit of making forms with only one entry for each individual field type (a form template of sorts) because I knew I would be customizing look and feel anyway (easier for me to manage because I know the programming languages used).
In any case I think it's a great product and have been using and promoting it for a long time now.
I provide free technical support and monitor the forum as my way of paying back the designers for such a great product.
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There are 3 options you provide for submission:
1.Database
2.Email
3.File
I made a form, and edited a lot in FrontPage. But I had chosen "File" as the option. Which, now I want to change to "Email", or may be "Database".
So what I do is, make a new form and add only one field so I am allowed to download the form, but this time, I select, say, "Email" as the option for the form submission.
Now I download the file, open it in the FrontPage, and copy all its data EXCEPT THE DATA THAT DEFINES THE FORM FIELDS AND THE SMALL JAVA SCRIPT BELOW IT (validation code), and replace the same data in my previous file.
And now, I have a form, that has the same contents and look of my previous form on which I spent so much of time and energy, but in this form the submission would be done to an "Email" on my server. Hope that is clear enough.
Thanks
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All right. I forgot to add that the form is fantastic, and the irritation was very small in amount! Now here a couple of more bugs and some queries.
Bug 1
The notepad-&-pen icon does not bring about any desciption box.
Bug 2
I attached a file 129mB, when the capacity given was 60mB, and it took away the whole file!
Queries
Suppose, if I have to change my venue of submission from one to another of the 3 you have offered, then can you say if all I need to do is download another form with the right choice with just one field added, and then replace all the code except the form data and the Java script below it? I hope it would do the task.
My host gives me Fantastico DeLux, which gives me 2.09c of the form. Is that a bug free stable version?
Actually, I only feel a little surprised, that how come some very starkly visible mistakes escape the builder of the form. Does he not test the form like a normal user for say, a couple of hours? May be he limits himself to just seeing if the command he scripted "runs", and not if it runs with the whole thing plugged in the page on the site here.
You look online, so I thought you might answer these now itself!
Thanks
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another thing worth mentioning is that most of the bugs were not there when the application was launched. Sourceforge had major server policy changes, which threw a lot of things out of balance, specially the database driven features. Most of the "ordering" (relocating fields, pages, etc) are due to this. I fixed the obvious issues that I was able to eyeball in order to get the site back up as soon as possible since thousands of people rely on it. I'm sure I've missed a number of corner cases that are not very obvious. Unfortuantely debugging is a time consuming process, and I'm extremely busy as of late. The bugs will be resolved when I get the time to go about fixing them. In the meantime, the best thing to do is to keep on compiling the list of known issues.
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Please answer this query; I am copy-pasting again from above. My post above this post has been double-posted by error; please delete it.
_____________________
There are 3 options you provide for submission:
1.Database
2.Email
3.File
I made a form, and edited a lot in FrontPage. But I had chosen "File" as the option. Which, now I want to change to "Email", or may be "Database".
So what I do is, make a new form and add only one field so I am allowed to download the form, but this time, I select, say, "Email" as the option for the form submission.
Now I download the file, open it in the FrontPage, and copy all its data EXCEPT THE DATA THAT DEFINES THE FORM FIELDS AND THE SMALL JAVA SCRIPT BELOW IT (validation code), and replace the same data in my previous file.
And now, I have a form, that has the same contents and look of my previous form on which I spent so much of time and energy, but in this form the submission would be done to an "Email" on my server. Hope that is clear enough.
Thanks
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It is not possible to mix and match when the requirements for each are so significantly different.
Email is the easiest.
File is the next easiest.
SQL is the most difficult because it also requires db preparation, user name, and password information.
They all require differnt data preparation and read/write commands to achieve the desired result. You could do what you described but you still have to know how the data needs to be prepared for the desired method and make sure all the data is prepared properly.
This is not a simple request to have a single form be capable of all with some optional switch the user can modify. It is best managed by allowing a user to edit a saved form by deleting and adding features as desired. This is the generator design intention but as you probably know there are some infrastructure difficulties and some bugs associated with moving form elements. If you are willing to wait, there will eventually be a generator capable of doing what you suggest with relative ease. In the mean time customization is left to the user.
Don't forget, this is free software!
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One of the most important features of v3.0 is that it lets you edit your form specifications and generate your form as many times as you like. If you need to change the delivery method of your form, simply go back to your form project and do so, and then re-download your form. Of course it is up to the user to note their form IDs and URLs in order to return to their projects. Remember, the program is hosted for demo purposes at the moment, and there are thousands of people using it every day. So we may not be able to keep all the created forms active on the server for long enough.
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Oops! I didn't know that I have to save the number of my form, which I would need to type directly at the end of the address bar. It is explained that one may Add To Fav's and return to the demo to edit, but some how this doesn't work. The page saved is .../page_home.php. Then when you click this link from Fav's, there is a "malfunction" message.
So I guess I would now need to restart, since when I looked into the HTML code for the host name and SQL db info, I was unable to locate it.
I would now create a few fields, say 2 or 3, then select saving method as SQL, and then, I would paste all the fields and their Java validation code just below the last field from previous form, and see if the form gives the same output message on test, as the original one I saved to Desktop with 2/3 fields. If yes, then the form is working, and if no, then the form is not working. Last night these messages had a huge difference. If adding too many fields with various options does not mess with the rest of the programming, then I must be able to get the form working. Hope I am right.
Thanks to TNT and Musawir.
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There is still an uncomfortable bug in the generator, an issue, and, a new feature needed. But first another question:
If we edit the form.html in a WYSIWYG editor, and add anything in the table, that is AMONG the fields, then the HTML code generated marks that particular text as ANOTHER field. So, say, if you type a heading for a certain number of fields, and then you draw a line, then the heading is going to be labled as field number say 11, the syntax for the line is going to be field number 11, and the field coming AFTER this is going to be field number 11. Considering there is a code that says something like 'send field 11', that would send data of field 11 into the database, would it be able to send the data from all the three fields? Because if it sends data from only the first field, then one may conclude that you just cannot add even a single new line to the form area.
THE BUG IN THE GENERATOR
You can't send a field upwards. Looks like the up arrow link becomes a link to the "your form updated" page, since the page appear instantly when the button is clicked. Other times, when the field does move, it takes time for the page to appear.
THE ISSUE
Why does the "your form updated" page have to appear every time there you send a field up or down? This should not happen. Instead there should be another save button or "go to this form's home page" that would save the form before going to the homepage.
NEW FEATURE
Then, there is not a feature, that would provide more selectable drop down lists say if we select an option from the drop down list that is first provided. I think there should be an option, where we can provide any other option AGAIN after the completion of action of the provided field.
Thanks
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It is possible but in order to tell you what you need I need to know what you have done so far. Which version if the generator did you use? Why don't you recreate the form and choose the two options you want? If you don't want to start over you will have to show me your form and send me a copy of you process.php file.
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I'm having troubles with the form I have created...I created a form with a file upload and every time I'm going to upload a file I get an error message saying that the file was not uploaded...any help on this willl be appreciated..thanks
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This can be caused by many issues. The most common is folder permissions. Check to see that the folder permissions are 777.
The is also a line that sometimes causes a problem. You can find this line:
I love the form generator althought I have only used the Demo site for a couple of forms. I have a question. The forms I have created i have used the email funtion to get the info to my users. The question is: How can I add "From" info so the recipient(s) will get something other than "unknown sender" in the from field of the email.
Thanks
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There are a number of posts already on this subject. Essentially the answer is that this generator is a good basic working starting point and customization is up to the user. There are lots of good examples on the web that show how to make these modifications. If you are a real novice and don't have the confidence to do it your self I am always willing to help out.
If it is old you may never get it back. What happened the the first version you downloaded?
Basically SourceForge had some server issues and some data was never recovered. There is also limited space so eventually forms have to be removed in order to stay running. THere are literally thousands of people using this generator and the data storage requirements are enormous.
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Well the obvious reason is that if we wish to change the form after the first iteration (ie. add new fields, pages, etc.) the form is not saved. So when we make changes and re-download the files, we get a zip file of the original form, not the enhanced/changed form.
Maybe this issue has been resolved. However, I am monitoring this forum and have not yet seen a reply stating the issue is resolved.
see this thread https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=5826281
Thanks,
Dave
If its a bug, then having a downloadable copy is not going to help since that too will have the same issue.
Okay. Here are the bugs I encountered IN THE FORM GENERATOR ITSELF while making my form. It was an irritating experience. I later corrected the mistakes by FODIY (Find Out & Do It Yourself) method. I am not any kind of knower of any language.
1. If you have a drop down list box, then each time you press the "Update Field" button you are going to have the order of the list changed!
2. If the tool tip is bigger than the tool tip rectangle, then the rectangle wouldn't size it self. The text would keep hanging out of the rectangle! This rectangle must be "exact fit" or something.
3. You can see another tool tip button poking in a tool tip rectangle while viewing this tip!
4. In my form, I was unable to move a field up that I added later. At first I was able to move the upper fields down, but later, even that wouldn't happen.
5. Although you can specify the size of the letters for a text box, but you can type as much as you like!
I hope now I have done my part of reporting the errors. I shall report the errors IN THE FORM once I am able to figure how a form is used to generate data to MySQL (or wherever the hell! I am new to this business), and be able to properly use it.
I have removed the "form generated by..." line, but would place it in its appropriate place: the Credits page.
Thanks
"phpFormGenerator v3.0 demo site"
It's a "demo" site for a reason. I am sure the creator will be happy to confirm any bugs, but as a demo site bugs are expected and you are identifying some known, maybe some unknown bugs. When a sufficient number of users identify bugs a new version will arise with fixes applied.
Thanks to everybody for your input but remember, this software is still free and the time and effort required to provide this free SW is not trivial.
I am here to support you whenever you need help and until such time that all bugs are resolved, but again my services are also free of charge and I am not available 24 hours a day.
All right. I forgot to add that the form is fantastic, and the irritation was very small in amount! Now here a couple of more bugs and some queries.
Bug 1
The notepad-&-pen icon does not bring about any desciption box.
Bug 2
I attached a file 129mB, when the capacity given was 60mB, and it took away the whole file!
Queries
Suppose, if I have to change my venue of submission from one to another of the 3 you have offered, then can you say if all I need to do is download another form with the right choice with just one field added, and then replace all the code except the form data and the Java script below it? I hope it would do the task.
My host gives me Fantastico DeLux, which gives me 2.09c of the form. Is that a bug free stable version?
Actually, I only feel a little surprised, that how come some very starkly visible mistakes escape the builder of the form. Does he not test the form like a normal user for say, a couple of hours? May be he limits himself to just seeing if the command he scripted "runs", and not if it runs with the whole thing plugged in the page on the site here.
You look online, so I thought you might answer these now itself!
Thanks
Queries
1.) I'm not sure exactly what you are asking so I'll leave this one alone for now.
2.) 2.09c is alot less troublesome but has fewer features. The issues reported are nearly 100% instalation related.
3.) Plenty of testing was done. I even did some myself. I was surprised when comments started coming in but after reviewing the details I realized I never would have tested some of the issues only because I know the way the generator works and am very familiar with creating forms. I would never have gone through the steps some people have because I typically know exactly what I want the form to look like before I start making the form.
In most cases my testing resulted in perfectly working forms. When I got to the point of making larger and more custom forms I got into the habit of making forms with only one entry for each individual field type (a form template of sorts) because I knew I would be customizing look and feel anyway (easier for me to manage because I know the programming languages used).
In any case I think it's a great product and have been using and promoting it for a long time now.
I provide free technical support and monitor the forum as my way of paying back the designers for such a great product.
Thank you. Now the part you did not understand.
There are 3 options you provide for submission:
1.Database
2.Email
3.File
I made a form, and edited a lot in FrontPage. But I had chosen "File" as the option. Which, now I want to change to "Email", or may be "Database".
So what I do is, make a new form and add only one field so I am allowed to download the form, but this time, I select, say, "Email" as the option for the form submission.
Now I download the file, open it in the FrontPage, and copy all its data EXCEPT THE DATA THAT DEFINES THE FORM FIELDS AND THE SMALL JAVA SCRIPT BELOW IT (validation code), and replace the same data in my previous file.
And now, I have a form, that has the same contents and look of my previous form on which I spent so much of time and energy, but in this form the submission would be done to an "Email" on my server. Hope that is clear enough.
Thanks
All right. I forgot to add that the form is fantastic, and the irritation was very small in amount! Now here a couple of more bugs and some queries.
Bug 1
The notepad-&-pen icon does not bring about any desciption box.
Bug 2
I attached a file 129mB, when the capacity given was 60mB, and it took away the whole file!
Queries
Suppose, if I have to change my venue of submission from one to another of the 3 you have offered, then can you say if all I need to do is download another form with the right choice with just one field added, and then replace all the code except the form data and the Java script below it? I hope it would do the task.
My host gives me Fantastico DeLux, which gives me 2.09c of the form. Is that a bug free stable version?
Actually, I only feel a little surprised, that how come some very starkly visible mistakes escape the builder of the form. Does he not test the form like a normal user for say, a couple of hours? May be he limits himself to just seeing if the command he scripted "runs", and not if it runs with the whole thing plugged in the page on the site here.
You look online, so I thought you might answer these now itself!
Thanks
another thing worth mentioning is that most of the bugs were not there when the application was launched. Sourceforge had major server policy changes, which threw a lot of things out of balance, specially the database driven features. Most of the "ordering" (relocating fields, pages, etc) are due to this. I fixed the obvious issues that I was able to eyeball in order to get the site back up as soon as possible since thousands of people rely on it. I'm sure I've missed a number of corner cases that are not very obvious. Unfortuantely debugging is a time consuming process, and I'm extremely busy as of late. The bugs will be resolved when I get the time to go about fixing them. In the meantime, the best thing to do is to keep on compiling the list of known issues.
Man Musawir,
Please answer this query; I am copy-pasting again from above. My post above this post has been double-posted by error; please delete it.
_____________________
There are 3 options you provide for submission:
1.Database
2.Email
3.File
I made a form, and edited a lot in FrontPage. But I had chosen "File" as the option. Which, now I want to change to "Email", or may be "Database".
So what I do is, make a new form and add only one field so I am allowed to download the form, but this time, I select, say, "Email" as the option for the form submission.
Now I download the file, open it in the FrontPage, and copy all its data EXCEPT THE DATA THAT DEFINES THE FORM FIELDS AND THE SMALL JAVA SCRIPT BELOW IT (validation code), and replace the same data in my previous file.
And now, I have a form, that has the same contents and look of my previous form on which I spent so much of time and energy, but in this form the submission would be done to an "Email" on my server. Hope that is clear enough.
Thanks
It is not possible to mix and match when the requirements for each are so significantly different.
Email is the easiest.
File is the next easiest.
SQL is the most difficult because it also requires db preparation, user name, and password information.
They all require differnt data preparation and read/write commands to achieve the desired result. You could do what you described but you still have to know how the data needs to be prepared for the desired method and make sure all the data is prepared properly.
This is not a simple request to have a single form be capable of all with some optional switch the user can modify. It is best managed by allowing a user to edit a saved form by deleting and adding features as desired. This is the generator design intention but as you probably know there are some infrastructure difficulties and some bugs associated with moving form elements. If you are willing to wait, there will eventually be a generator capable of doing what you suggest with relative ease. In the mean time customization is left to the user.
Don't forget, this is free software!
One of the most important features of v3.0 is that it lets you edit your form specifications and generate your form as many times as you like. If you need to change the delivery method of your form, simply go back to your form project and do so, and then re-download your form. Of course it is up to the user to note their form IDs and URLs in order to return to their projects. Remember, the program is hosted for demo purposes at the moment, and there are thousands of people using it every day. So we may not be able to keep all the created forms active on the server for long enough.
OKAY, OKAY, OKAY.
Both your replies understood.
Oops! I didn't know that I have to save the number of my form, which I would need to type directly at the end of the address bar. It is explained that one may Add To Fav's and return to the demo to edit, but some how this doesn't work. The page saved is .../page_home.php. Then when you click this link from Fav's, there is a "malfunction" message.
So I guess I would now need to restart, since when I looked into the HTML code for the host name and SQL db info, I was unable to locate it.
I would now create a few fields, say 2 or 3, then select saving method as SQL, and then, I would paste all the fields and their Java validation code just below the last field from previous form, and see if the form gives the same output message on test, as the original one I saved to Desktop with 2/3 fields. If yes, then the form is working, and if no, then the form is not working. Last night these messages had a huge difference. If adding too many fields with various options does not mess with the rest of the programming, then I must be able to get the form working. Hope I am right.
Thanks to TNT and Musawir.
Once again, I happen to be wrong.
Last time when I bookmarked the page, the page was saved without the ID number.
This time it saved correctly.
Never mind.
Thx.
In case anyone wants an answer to this:
The form fields would completely mess with the programming code when the saving method is db.
Thx
Dear TNT/Musawir
There is still an uncomfortable bug in the generator, an issue, and, a new feature needed. But first another question:
If we edit the form.html in a WYSIWYG editor, and add anything in the table, that is AMONG the fields, then the HTML code generated marks that particular text as ANOTHER field. So, say, if you type a heading for a certain number of fields, and then you draw a line, then the heading is going to be labled as field number say 11, the syntax for the line is going to be field number 11, and the field coming AFTER this is going to be field number 11. Considering there is a code that says something like 'send field 11', that would send data of field 11 into the database, would it be able to send the data from all the three fields? Because if it sends data from only the first field, then one may conclude that you just cannot add even a single new line to the form area.
THE BUG IN THE GENERATOR
You can't send a field upwards. Looks like the up arrow link becomes a link to the "your form updated" page, since the page appear instantly when the button is clicked. Other times, when the field does move, it takes time for the page to appear.
THE ISSUE
Why does the "your form updated" page have to appear every time there you send a field up or down? This should not happen. Instead there should be another save button or "go to this form's home page" that would save the form before going to the homepage.
NEW FEATURE
Then, there is not a feature, that would provide more selectable drop down lists say if we select an option from the drop down list that is first provided. I think there should be an option, where we can provide any other option AGAIN after the completion of action of the provided field.
Thanks
Hi everyone!
First of all, thanks for generator! Great work.
I guess this question was already aked, but I haven't find it.
I need both e-mail sent function and file writing. What should I do?
Tnx in advance.
It is possible but in order to tell you what you need I need to know what you have done so far. Which version if the generator did you use? Why don't you recreate the form and choose the two options you want? If you don't want to start over you will have to show me your form and send me a copy of you process.php file.
Hi,
I'm having troubles with the form I have created...I created a form with a file upload and every time I'm going to upload a file I get an error message saying that the file was not uploaded...any help on this willl be appreciated..thanks
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This can be caused by many issues. The most common is folder permissions. Check to see that the folder permissions are 777.
The is also a line that sometimes causes a problem. You can find this line:
$where_form_is="http://".$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'].strrev(strstr(strrev($_SERVER['PHP_SELF']),"/"));
and change it to point directly to the folder like this:
$where_form_is="http://www.yoururl.com/yourformfolder/"));
The original line relies on server settings that in some cases are not enabled.
I love the form generator althought I have only used the Demo site for a couple of forms. I have a question. The forms I have created i have used the email funtion to get the info to my users. The question is: How can I add "From" info so the recipient(s) will get something other than "unknown sender" in the from field of the email.
Thanks
There are a number of posts already on this subject. Essentially the answer is that this generator is a good basic working starting point and customization is up to the user. There are lots of good examples on the web that show how to make these modifications. If you are a real novice and don't have the confidence to do it your self I am always willing to help out.
Look here for good examples:
Example #2
http://www.php.net/function.mail
There seems to be a bug in the archive generation.
I have tried to download this form (bookmarked as RPP)
http://phpformgen.sourceforge.net/new_demo/phpformgen/getZip.php?formid=83087
but I obtain an unusable (corrupted) ZIP. Tested with Safari 4 and Firefox 3.0 on Mac OS 10.5.6.
If it is old you may never get it back. What happened the the first version you downloaded?
Basically SourceForge had some server issues and some data was never recovered. There is also limited space so eventually forms have to be removed in order to stay running. THere are literally thousands of people using this generator and the data storage requirements are enormous.
I tried the demo, but never mind I'll give a try to the one bundled with fantastico