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From: Matthew G. <gr...@mu...> - 2003-06-18 20:10:51
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Here[1] is the latest iteration of the fork patch. Disabling of back/forwards with forked surveys has not been implemented in this patch. Please test and comment, etc.. Possibly this can be committed? [1] http://bfs.itlab.musc.edu/~greggmc/stuff/newfork.patch -- mcg ------------------------------------- The IT Lab (http://www.itlab.musc.edu) |
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From: Moshe W. <wei...@te...> - 2003-06-18 13:29:08
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I agree that this is reasonable for now. Kon wrote: >Disable backwards/forwards if a survey has forks would be what I would >suggest. > > >Kon > |
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From: Kon <ang...@ip...> - 2003-06-18 08:10:37
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Disable backwards/forwards if a survey has forks would be what I would suggest. Kon On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 10:13, Matthew Gregg wrote: > The Fork patch + back/forward/save on surveys == problems. > > Here is the deal... > Build a survey with a fork. Place several questions between the > fork. Take the survey and don't take the fork. Then save the survey > without submitting. Now resume the survey, go back to the fork, this > time take the fork and submit the survey. The questions that you > forked over this time but answered the first time get submitted. > > How to fix: > - We could disable backwards/forwards if a survey has forks. > - Make forks play nice with B/F. May be difficult. > > I'm just about ready to commit the fork patch, should I with this > issue? I'll get my updated patch out on list tomorrow. > |
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From: Matthew G. <gr...@mu...> - 2003-06-18 00:13:41
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The Fork patch + back/forward/save on surveys == problems. Here is the deal... Build a survey with a fork. Place several questions between the fork. Take the survey and don't take the fork. Then save the survey without submitting. Now resume the survey, go back to the fork, this time take the fork and submit the survey. The questions that you forked over this time but answered the first time get submitted. How to fix: - We could disable backwards/forwards if a survey has forks. - Make forks play nice with B/F. May be difficult. I'm just about ready to commit the fork patch, should I with this issue? I'll get my updated patch out on list tomorrow. -- mcg ------------------------------------- The IT Lab (http://www.itlab.musc.edu) |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2003-06-14 08:03:56
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Bugs item #754420, was opened at 2003-06-14 01:03 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=108956&aid=754420&group_id=8956 Category: Admin Group: cvs Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Leonard Chan (wotg) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Small Security Issue in admdesigner.inc Initial Comment: Hello. I just noticed what I believe to be a small security issue in 'admdesigner.inc'. There is an existing permisions check, but it only applies to "Delete" operations. As far as I can tell, there is no checking when opening, updating, or adding a designer. One solution would be to move the permissions check a dozen lines earlier, and have it apply to all operations. Hope I'm not imagining things again... Have a good one! Leonard. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=108956&aid=754420&group_id=8956 |
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From: flobee <fl...@gm...> - 2003-06-13 03:09:01
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very cool , and very good idea jeames! but i haven´t check out this tool! (working on the result design :-) ) xml for im/export always good! and i love public backends to grab it :-) note: since this week i´m on a bug search... chad´s addon and main survey_result.inc having a bad handling for $showTotals if($showTotals === '') $showTotals = 1; // 3x = ??? and then below $totals = $showTotals; this sets the "show totals" to alwasy ON change to if(!isset($showTotals) $showTotals = 1; then, in the function call can be 1, false, true,0 using empty() will show totals on NT php4.3.2 kind regards flobee ----- Original Message ----- From: "James E. Flemer" <jf...@uv...> To: <php...@li...> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [phpesp-dev] sql_static web site > That brings up an interesting point. Perhaps it would be cool to have > some other import options. So someone could just HTTP-upload a CSV file > (with some predefined layout) that would populate various things. Just > a musing of mine. Anyone else have any thoughts along that line? > > (I still want to migrate to an XML representation for surveys, at least > for import and export.) > > -James > > Chad Bearden wrote: > > I've been asked for more info on sql_static so here it is. > > > > http://www.beardendesigns.com/phpESP/sql_static.php > > > > It is pretty cool. I just created a survey with one question that had > > over 500 possible answers. The answers were in a Excel spreadsheet. I > > exported to csv and into its' own table in the phpESP database. Then > > using sql_static create the question with a simple <sql_static> tag. > > > > Please let me know if you have any comments or complaints. > > > > chad. |
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From: James E. F. <jf...@uv...> - 2003-06-13 02:37:56
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That brings up an interesting point. Perhaps it would be cool to have some other import options. So someone could just HTTP-upload a CSV file (with some predefined layout) that would populate various things. Just a musing of mine. Anyone else have any thoughts along that line? (I still want to migrate to an XML representation for surveys, at least for import and export.) -James Chad Bearden wrote: > I've been asked for more info on sql_static so here it is. > > http://www.beardendesigns.com/phpESP/sql_static.php > > It is pretty cool. I just created a survey with one question that had > over 500 possible answers. The answers were in a Excel spreadsheet. I > exported to csv and into its' own table in the phpESP database. Then > using sql_static create the question with a simple <sql_static> tag. > > Please let me know if you have any comments or complaints. > > chad. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: eBay > Great deals on office technology -- on eBay now! Click here: > http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 > _______________________________________________ > phpESP-devel mailing list > php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel |
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From: flobee <fl...@gm...> - 2003-06-12 22:32:36
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hello list
i got bad feedback form my users about the huge space between the questions
and inside the questions at all
here a little mofdification suggestion for
survey_render.inc
**change :
<td class="preQuestionBorder"> </td>
**to:
<td class="preQuestionBorder"> <!-- ONE SIMPLE SPACE --></td>
in stylesheet for "preQuestionBorder" you can set an blank image to set the
height of this space otherwise you cannot limit it
in css as new:
blockquote {
font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica; /* Your Font set */
border: 0px;
height: auto;
margin: 0px auto 0px 10%; /* use "px" OR "%" test it */;
}
as well: with the cool Hack of Chad Bearden´s resp_interface the results
need now a view like the surveys have!
would you like me to do that or will you do it!?
kind regards
flobee
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From: Chad B. <ch...@be...> - 2003-06-12 20:47:11
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I've been asked for more info on sql_static so here it is. http://www.beardendesigns.com/phpESP/sql_static.php It is pretty cool. I just created a survey with one question that had over 500 possible answers. The answers were in a Excel spreadsheet. I exported to csv and into its' own table in the phpESP database. Then using sql_static create the question with a simple <sql_static> tag. Please let me know if you have any comments or complaints. chad. |
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From: Chad B. <ch...@be...> - 2003-06-12 16:08:37
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Found a silly but crippling bug. You'll find on http://www.beardendesigns.com/phpESP/ or http://www.beardendesigns.com/phpESP/resp_interface-0.31.tar.gz chad. |
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From: Chad B. <ch...@be...> - 2003-06-11 21:59:38
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Hello all of you surveyors out there. I've upgraded my respondent interface after flobee identified a security bug. Thank you, flobee. The new download can be found at: http://www.beardendesigns.com/phpESP/index.php to download directly try this: http://www.beardendesigns.com/phpESP/resp_interface-0.3.tar.gz Thanks to the core developers for making such a robust package. From Rainy Florida, chad. |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2003-06-11 20:56:37
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Feature Requests item #752902, was opened at 2003-06-11 22:56 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=752902&group_id=8956 Category: None Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Submitted By: flobee (flobee) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: pictures/covers to survey by using the "sid" Initial Comment: survey_render.inc line ~51 - 58 <table class="headerGraphic"> <tr> <td class="image"></td> </tr> </table> *** // NEW SUGGESTION *** <table border="0" WIDTH="100%"> <tr valign="TOP"> <td WIDTH="95%"><h2 class="surveyTitle"><?php echo($survey["title"]); ?></h2></td> <TD WIDTH="*" nowrap="nowrap"> <?php if(file_exists("covers/" . $survey["id"] . ".jpg") ) { echo ("<IMG SRC=\covers/".$survey["id"].".jpg\ ALT=\".$survey["title"]."\ hspace=\2\ vspace=\2\ BORDER=\0\>"); }else{ echo ("<IMG SRC=\covers/blank.gif\ ALT=\\ height=\4\ WIDTH=\4\ BORDER=\0\>"); } ?> </TD> </tr> </table> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=752902&group_id=8956 |
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From: flobee <fl...@gm...> - 2003-06-11 08:19:56
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yo!
i think the querys (1) must be worked out for "respondent_survey_results"
otherwise users could browse throught the hole database and can see all
single surveys-results even those which need authentification to get into it
:
public / respondent_survey_results.inc.php
~ 85:
// load survey title (and other globals)
$sql = "SELECT * FROM survey WHERE id='${sid}'";
should be something like this:
// load survey title (and other globals) ++ but user specific
$sql = "SELECT * FROM survey A, response R
WHERE A.id='${sid}'
AND A.realm = '$realm' // Im not sure!!! one user
ONLY for one realm??
AND R.username = '$user'
AND R.survey_id ='${sid}'
AND R.complete ='Y'
";
than extra check if result is empty (num rows < 1) = not found : echo "wrong
user, group? or survey not complete";
or am i wrong?
actually it´s set to respondent_survey_results_navbar but you will get the
result
note: this is only for this respondent interface! the main version if fine
flobee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Bearden" <ch...@be...>
To: "flobee" <fl...@gm...>
Cc: <php...@li...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [phpesp-dev] respondent interface
Gosh. Glad you like it. I'm not familiar with the flash ui but will
give it a look. Someone (maybe you) asked for an interface for a
respondent to change their password and this is a good idea. Right now
I'm fooling with the "right" way to add management functions that
doesn't break the phpESP core releases. Items on the agenda:
Better reporting
Being able to pull choices from a db table rather than enter them into
the questions interface.
Sorting choices when displayed in abc or numerical order.
chad.
On Saturday, May 24, 2003, at 17:16 US/Eastern, flobee wrote:
> i´m jealous (envious , grudging ) , cool script :-) (don´t know the
> right
> word) :-o
> i build something similar but much more complicated (and out of phpesp
> file
> structure) ...
> just want to tell you: really good option!!
>
> your MOD could be good to start with a flash user interface i´m
> thinking
> for a while to do one (as well a "survey-remote" tool (what i basicly
> do:
> flash)
> can have the tables and more limited results for the beginning - >
> because
> i´m still not sure how to handle huge result pages in flash.
> has anyone thinking about using flash? i remember somebody in this list
> showed something with graphs as an option for the results
> well , flash only or templates graphs for each question , question
> type as
> option to show the results , i could imagine would be a nice option.!
> let me know -> i´m not on that level yet to develop the php code for
> this
> project! but flash no problem, and php: i´m lerning and learning :-)
> reference.: (no graphs but dynamic flash CMS system:
> www.deliciousgarden.com )
>
> kind regards flobee
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chad Bearden" <ch...@be...>
> To: "flobee" <fl...@gm...>; <php...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 2:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [phpesp-dev] respondent interface
>
>
> Take a look at the code in
> phpESP/public/respondent_survey_results.inc.php I think this may do
> what you want. The code is just a hacked version of the
> survey_results.php code but limits to looking at just 1 result. It
> also ignores answers that weren't checked.
>
> chad.
>
> On Wednesday, May 21, 2003, at 07:06 US/Eastern, flobee wrote:
>
>> yo! thats what i need in some ways! my post was in the same time than
>> you
>> update :-)
>> have you any idea if it is possible to get the postet
>> information/result
>> form a single repondent of a survey?
>> i´m not quite sure! if than, i think it must be a huge query, insn´t
>> it!?
>> kind regards
>> flobee
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chad Bearden" <ch...@be...>
>> To: <php...@li...>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 9:37 PM
>> Subject: [phpesp-dev] respondent interface
>>
>
>
>
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From: Chad B. <ch...@be...> - 2003-06-10 19:46:53
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This is a bug fix for the new sql_static feature. I've included the whole file as it is probably easier to install this way. Installation info is in the file, search for 'Installation:' This file adds the feature of creating question choices via sql rather than you having to type them. Let's say you have a question like, Who's your favorite respondent? You could type in all of the names...Boring. or you could just type <sql_static>select `fname`,`lname` from `respondent` where disabled = 'N' order by `lname`</sql_static> This would look into the phpESP db and pull all the respondents that are active. Much easier. chad. |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2003-06-10 18:18:21
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Feature Requests item #752058, was opened at 2003-06-10 17:40 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by briwood You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=752058&group_id=8956 Category: survey format Group: None Status: Closed Priority: 5 Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: "other" option with text entry Initial Comment: Often "Other" is included as the last item in a list of options. It would be nice to have space to type in a value when the user's choice is not available. e.g.: What is your favourite colour? [ ] blue [ ] green [ ] red [ ] other: _________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Brian Wood (briwood) Date: 2003-06-10 18:18 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=190642 This feature is already part of phpesp 1.6.1. Kindly visit /admin/manage.php?where=new: For check boxes and radio buttons, you may enter "!other" on a line to create a fill in the blank option. An "Other" box defaults to using the prompt Other: , but is configurable by using the format: !other=prompt text ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Matthew Gregg (greggmc) Date: 2003-06-10 17:46 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=14116 phpESP can already do this. See !other in the docs. and on the survey creation pages. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=752058&group_id=8956 |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2003-06-10 18:11:53
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Feature Requests item #752058, was opened at 2003-06-10 12:40 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by greggmc You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=752058&group_id=8956 Category: survey format Group: None >Status: Closed Priority: 5 Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: "other" option with text entry Initial Comment: Often "Other" is included as the last item in a list of options. It would be nice to have space to type in a value when the user's choice is not available. e.g.: What is your favourite colour? [ ] blue [ ] green [ ] red [ ] other: _________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Matthew Gregg (greggmc) Date: 2003-06-10 12:46 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=14116 phpESP can already do this. See !other in the docs. and on the survey creation pages. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=752058&group_id=8956 |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2003-06-10 17:40:17
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Feature Requests item #752058, was opened at 2003-06-10 10:40 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=752058&group_id=8956 Category: survey format Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: "other" option with text entry Initial Comment: Often "Other" is included as the last item in a list of options. It would be nice to have space to type in a value when the user's choice is not available. e.g.: What is your favourite colour? [ ] blue [ ] green [ ] red [ ] other: _________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=358956&aid=752058&group_id=8956 |
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From: Andreas S. <kno...@th...> - 2003-06-08 17:38:58
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I've written a small modification for the espi18n.inc where the GetText class is used to emulate gettext. So, now even if the PHP gettext extension is not available the messages are correctly translated. Package was only tested with pnESP but should work with phpESP without any modification as the core is almost the same. esp_setlocale() was rewritten, the rest is still the same. To install: * Make a backup of your espi18n.inc * Drop files in your phpESP base directory. You can download package here: http://pnesp.sf.net/downloads/phpesp/gettext_emu.tgz Package content: gettext/ gettext/doc/ gettext/doc/gettext.directorystructure.html gettext/doc/gettext.errorhandling.html gettext/doc/gettext.installation.html gettext/doc/gettext.introduction.html gettext/doc/gettext.phpusage.html gettext/doc/gettext.portableobjectfiles.html gettext/doc/gettext.translationdomain.html gettext/doc/gettext.variableinterpolation.html gettext/doc/index.html gettext/doc/stylesheet.css gettext/GetText.php gettext/PEAR.php admin/include/lib/espi18n.inc Andreas ----------------- no brain, no pain |
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From: Eric B. <eri...@ho...> - 2003-06-07 04:25:27
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I want to change the date (input, results and export) in a European date("d
m Y");
Any ideas how/where to do this ?
Eric
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From: Chad B. <ch...@be...> - 2003-06-06 20:29:21
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The patch itself has all of the documentation. Here's a brief synopsis. // // This new feature is used when making surveys. Prior to this feature which // I call sql_static you had to type all answers to a multiple choice // question. Like all the clinic names or all the director names or ...you // get the idea Now, you can just put the following in the 1st possible // answer slot and it will pull the data from an already existing database // table. // // Examples: // // <sql_static>select `code`, `desc` from `ndas` order by `code`</sql_static> // // <sql_static>select `name` from `clinic` order by `name`</sql_static> // // This is SQL!! Oh the horror! Something else to learn but the payoff is // BIG. The first example grabs the code and description from the ndas // table which must exist in the phpESP database. The code and description // will be concatenated (smushed) together with a space seperating them. With // the second statement a table named `clinic` in the phpESP database is // searched for a `name` field and returns all of those names sorted in // alphabetical order, `order by name`. Very Cool!! A word to the paranoid, // I do check that the first word after the tag is 'select'. Also if the // table you are grabbing choices from is not in the phpESP database do not // fret. Use the <connect> tag to open that database. Use DB::connect() // syntax like: (Yes you need a recent php 4.1.x install, I'm testing with // 4.3.2) // // <connect>mysql://user:pass@host/db_name</connect> // <sql_static>select field from table</sql_static> // // example: // // <connect>mysql://phpaicm:phpaicm@localhost/phpaicm</connect> // <sql_static>select `first_name`, `last_name` from `composer` order by `last_name`</sql_static> // // see: http://pear.php.net/manual/en/package.database.db.intro-dsn.php // // Please note that this creates all choices on the fly and then inserts them // into the phpESP `response` table. Really no different than typing them all // in yourself, but quicker and more accurate. This method does require that // the source table exists, namely in this example, `composer`. It also requires // that a field in `composer` exists, namely, `last_name`. I don't check all of this // before submitting the sql to the database but it will return somewhat // helpful error messages if any of the criteria are not met. // // I call this sql_static because if the table you based your choices on // changes it will NOT change your survey. The choices are created at // question build time and afterwards the table is no longer consulted. // The info is duplicated in the phpESP choices table. // // I plan on creating a sql_dynamic tag that will consult the db table everytime // the survey is displayed. This has huge ramifications for rendering and // reporting and is still in the thinking stages. Here is a glimpse. // // When creating your question type the following into the 1st possible answer // box. // // <sql_dynamic>select name from clinic order by name</sql_dynamic> // // Now, when you view your survey in preview mode you will see all of the data // pulled from the table in real time. If the table changes so too does the // survey. This is good and bad. The good, no need to copy surveys for // adding choices to existing questions, just change the table they get their // answers from. The bad, reporting becomes a nightmare... chad. |
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From: James E. F. <jf...@uv...> - 2003-06-05 23:59:15
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Hello Users and Developers, This week's issue of eWeek featured a favorable review of phpESP. The article is available on-line at the following URL: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1111892,00.asp I'd like to commend all the developers for all their work on this project, as well as thank the users for their feedback and suggestions. Good Work! -James |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2003-06-03 15:19:20
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Bugs item #748223, was opened at 2003-06-03 09:53 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=108956&aid=748223&group_id=8956 Category: Admin Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Matthew Gregg (greggmc) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: CSV Export field name clash Initial Comment: CVS exporter doesn't distinguish between fields that are named the same. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=108956&aid=748223&group_id=8956 |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2003-06-03 14:42:23
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Bugs item #745080, was opened at 2003-05-28 13:41 Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by greggmc You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=108956&aid=745080&group_id=8956 Category: None Group: v1.6 >Status: Closed >Resolution: Works For Me Priority: 5 Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Installation-problem Initial Comment: I have installed phpesp on WinNT , Database is configured and TEST.PHP is runnig without any problems. Starting with index.php i get an error 401 Unauthorized [ Incorrect User ID or Password, or your account has been disabled/expired. ] . It seems that an entry in the db is wrong ? What can I do ? po...@ma... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Matthew Gregg (greggmc) Date: 2003-05-28 13:44 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=14116 Are you running phpESP with IIS or Apache? Is PHP configured to run as a module or as a CGI? phpESP authentication will not work when used with PHP configured as a CGI. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=108956&aid=745080&group_id=8956 |
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From: Matthew G. <gr...@mu...> - 2003-05-31 18:13:07
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You are correct...
I've been working on making the patch CVS'able, in my enormous amounts
of free time, for that very reason. I had the patch as was submitted
by Kon working and appeared stable with a minimal amount of testing.
However, a large portion of the patch, relating to text for rate
questions, still needed to be "backed out". I am currently working
on this.
I'll paste my TODO below:
- (fixed) in Questions tab, moving between questions, an extra
question "nav/button" bar is shown.
- (fixed) rename table ratetext to rate_text
- (fixed) copied survey's don't skip anymore. Looks like skips are
copied to the new survey before question_choices are, which skips
depend on. So, the skips in the new survey point to question_choices
from the original. In survey_copy.inc, it's the "precise" column not
getting updated to the new(copied). That column should match the new
intended_response variable.
- (fixed) missing an entry in question_type for skip questions.
- (fixed) question_choice table isn't properly purged when ?where=purge is issued.
- remove all instances of rate_text code. Don't forget to remove
rate_text stuff from mysql update scripts. Should commit to SF CVS
at this point.
- move functions out of order.inc to where they should be
- more "style" cleanups
- test private surveys with a fork.
- even more testing.
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 11:43:57AM +0200, Eric Bont wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Maybe it's a good idea to place Kon's 'forking' patch to the CVS tree ?
> Then we can all try to test/bugfix it.
>
> Eric
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