Greetings. My first post on this forum. I have used, and am still using peppermint 10 on my computers for years. I have an older desktop that has a SSHD with Windows on it. I have installed an additional SSHD on it, and want to install PPMNT 11 on the new SSHD. The Bios uses MBR. vice UEFI, it is an old desktop. This is my first install with 11. My main machine has Ppmnt 10, as well as Mint, and Win 10 (UEFI) . Before I risk it, I thought I would get some experience on the older desktop. SHould I just follow the install guidance on the USB installer? any hints? i can disconnect the win 10 HD if necessary during installtion. Just looking for guidance.
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Anonymous
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2023-01-03
Hi Scott,
Welcome to our new forum and community home.
We do not call PeppermintOS other than PeppermintOS we distinguish between them by Debian (currently Bullseye) or Devuan (currently Chimaera) and offer both 64bit and 32bit options: https://sourceforge.net/projects/peppermintos/files/ and Torrents downloads as well.
Burn your choice of PMOS (Bullseye or Chimaera) iso to your USB and boot as normal into your elderly computer. There is a PMOS icon on the LiveCD desktop, right-click it and click on execute to launch the installer.
When you reach the first page Partitions stage of the installer it will show you how many discs are on offer, via the drop-down menu where it says Select Storage Device both discs are labelled as sda or sdb , with their disc partition scheme. The new SSHD will probably be formatted with ntfs and have one partition only. Hopefully at sdb , if not you need to swap the disc cable around.
Note: Windows 10 usually with its MBR partition scheme has a minimum of two partitions, the OS and its recovery partition, this will a black colour if memory serves me? Been a while since I've had the displeasure to install Windoze .
Chose a Manual install and click next (the Install Alongside is when install both OS'es to the same disc, does apply to you). Where will taken to the second stage of Partitions page.
You need to make a new Partition Tables, by clicking on the button to the bottom left of the screen New Partition Table and choose MSDOS and click on the tick button to apply. Then format the entire disc with ext4 from the drop-down menu and again click on the tick to finalise your format chose.
Now this is critical; right-click on newly formatted partition a menu will appear, look for FLAG this the final piece of the partition jigsaw prior to install and mark as /boot . You are done.
The next page is your for creds, name, rank and serial. Best not tick log automatically as may want Windies at some point. At the Summary page it is self explanatory. If happy click on install and go and make a cuppa tea or sommat. Got approximately 5 to 10 minutes depending on how strong your system is.
Now Windoze does not have a OSprobe and therefore is deaf, blind and dumb, if you boot into Windoze. You may to press F12 on my Dells to get the One Time Boot function up, and chose PMOS, because you need run sudo update-grub then sudo xDaily to update your new install. Now PMOS has pinged Windoze and they now give a symlink to PMOS grub. So you can now coexist until a Windoze update will probably kills it, in the near future.
Good luck Team Peppermint :)
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Thanks. The new disk is completely unformatted ( Windows doesn't even see it) I guess I have been lucky, On my main computer assembled middle of 2018, I installed Windows 10, and then about 3 months later I installed another SSHD and installed Peppermint on it. Windows update hasn't overwritten GRUB yet. GRUB has an option to run WIN 10 and it works fine, I wonder why, I do know Windows cannot see my EXT4 drives, and the GRUB file is on the Mint distro I have installed. I assume I should leave my Windows drive connected during install?
Thanks
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Ok so my installation stopped at 73% like others have experienced. I canceled, rebooted into the PMOS and ran sudo update-grub and sudo xdaily... After reboot seems to work well.
Mark as closed/Solved. Can I do that?
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Remember when you install things during installation its like a net install. that 73% you think is hung is most likely downloading your selected software., if you have a slower connection it may seem like its hung but its not... its just downloading now... you can fore go the install packages and afterwards use the welcome screen to install some of your needed packages to get you started.
Hope this helps
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Anonymous
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2023-01-04
To check your system, copy and paste these commands separately into a terminal:
dpkg -l | grep ^..r
sudo apt install -f
If it reports a problem or broken packages, it will be advisable to reinstall afresh.
To answer your other points:
Yes install using MSDOS partition tables with the partition then formatted to ext4 thus giving you the MBR or Legacy install.
Yes select your mount point as /
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Anonymous
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2023-01-06
We have investigated installer, using my least reliable laptop, as it is prone to overheating and suffering a thermal event after an hours usage, plus the wifi signal is flaky giving between 45 to 80 M/bs on a good day.
We reactivated the debug tool to view what is going on with the installer, plus I included the following repos that is on offer from the software Package section of the installer.
They were Libre Office Writer only, Libre Office GTK, this helps to render Libre Office the default desktop theme. GUFW, Transmission and Firefox_ESR, at the 73% point and at 75% the repos were downloaded and being activated to install along the Xfce desktop environment, once the installer reached 100% and required a reboot to boot into a virginal install of PeppermintOS Debian.
Greetings. My first post on this forum. I have used, and am still using peppermint 10 on my computers for years. I have an older desktop that has a SSHD with Windows on it. I have installed an additional SSHD on it, and want to install PPMNT 11 on the new SSHD. The Bios uses MBR. vice UEFI, it is an old desktop. This is my first install with 11. My main machine has Ppmnt 10, as well as Mint, and Win 10 (UEFI) . Before I risk it, I thought I would get some experience on the older desktop. SHould I just follow the install guidance on the USB installer? any hints? i can disconnect the win 10 HD if necessary during installtion. Just looking for guidance.
Hi Scott,
Welcome to our new forum and community home.
We do not call PeppermintOS other than PeppermintOS we distinguish between them by Debian (currently Bullseye) or Devuan (currently Chimaera) and offer both 64bit and 32bit options: https://sourceforge.net/projects/peppermintos/files/ and Torrents downloads as well.
Burn your choice of PMOS (Bullseye or Chimaera) iso to your USB and boot as normal into your elderly computer. There is a PMOS icon on the LiveCD desktop, right-click it and click on execute to launch the installer.
When you reach the first page Partitions stage of the installer it will show you how many discs are on offer, via the drop-down menu where it says
Select Storage Deviceboth discs are labelled assdaorsdb, with their disc partition scheme. The new SSHD will probably be formatted withntfsand have one partition only. Hopefully atsdb, if not you need to swap the disc cable around.Note: Windows 10 usually with its MBR partition scheme has a minimum of two partitions, the OS and its recovery partition, this will a black colour if memory serves me? Been a while since I've had the displeasure to install Windoze .
Chose a
Manual installand click next (theInstall Alongsideis when install both OS'es to the same disc, does apply to you). Where will taken to the second stage of Partitions page.You need to make a new Partition Tables, by clicking on the button to the bottom left of the screen
New Partition Tableand choose MSDOS and click on the tick button to apply. Then format the entire disc with ext4 from the drop-down menu and again click on the tick to finalise your format chose.Now this is critical; right-click on newly formatted partition a menu will appear, look for
FLAGthis the final piece of the partition jigsaw prior to install and mark as/boot. You are done.The next page is your for creds, name, rank and serial. Best not tick log automatically as may want Windies at some point. At the Summary page it is self explanatory. If happy click on install and go and make a cuppa tea or sommat. Got approximately 5 to 10 minutes depending on how strong your system is.
Now Windoze does not have a OSprobe and therefore is deaf, blind and dumb, if you boot into Windoze. You may to press F12 on my Dells to get the
One Time Bootfunction up, and chose PMOS, because you need runsudo update-grubthensudo xDailyto update your new install. Now PMOS has pinged Windoze and they now give a symlink to PMOS grub. So you can now coexist until a Windoze update will probably kills it, in the near future.Good luck Team Peppermint :)
Thanks. The new disk is completely unformatted ( Windows doesn't even see it) I guess I have been lucky, On my main computer assembled middle of 2018, I installed Windows 10, and then about 3 months later I installed another SSHD and installed Peppermint on it. Windows update hasn't overwritten GRUB yet. GRUB has an option to run WIN 10 and it works fine, I wonder why, I do know Windows cannot see my EXT4 drives, and the GRUB file is on the Mint distro I have installed. I assume I should leave my Windows drive connected during install?
Thanks
Since this is old hardware, should I use the MBR Mater Boot Record, or the GPT option?
ALso should the mount point be / ?
Ok so my installation stopped at 73% like others have experienced. I canceled, rebooted into the PMOS and ran sudo update-grub and sudo xdaily... After reboot seems to work well.
Mark as closed/Solved. Can I do that?
Remember when you install things during installation its like a net install. that 73% you think is hung is most likely downloading your selected software., if you have a slower connection it may seem like its hung but its not... its just downloading now... you can fore go the install packages and afterwards use the welcome screen to install some of your needed packages to get you started.
Hope this helps
To check your system, copy and paste these commands separately into a terminal:
If it reports a problem or broken packages, it will be advisable to reinstall afresh.
To answer your other points:
Yes install using
MSDOSpartition tables with the partition then formatted toext4thus giving you theMBRorLegacyinstall.Yes select your mount point as
/We have investigated installer, using my least reliable laptop, as it is prone to overheating and suffering a thermal event after an hours usage, plus the wifi signal is flaky giving between 45 to 80 M/bs on a good day.
We reactivated the debug tool to view what is going on with the installer, plus I included the following repos that is on offer from the software Package section of the installer.
They were Libre Office Writer only, Libre Office GTK, this helps to render Libre Office the default desktop theme. GUFW, Transmission and Firefox_ESR, at the 73% point and at 75% the repos were downloaded and being activated to install along the Xfce desktop environment, once the installer reached 100% and required a reboot to boot into a virginal install of PeppermintOS Debian.
ahhh so it was just a matter of patience while the packages downloaded....good catch