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From: Cristian B. <cr...@cs...> - 2012-06-18 13:31:22
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Hi João, I want to get back to parade and try to revive Aether this summer. I'll be in touch on parade-developers. First question: how do I checkout? Never used git. cristi On 2012-06-13 22.14, Manuel Bernhardt wrote: > Great! > > For JNotify I don't have a clue how it behaves on osx these days. On > linux I had to recompile it against 64bit but that should be checked > in. It may be worth looking into using the finally available JVM 7 > support for that kind of file change tracking. Or maybe there's an > updated version of the JNotify project. I think I used to run parade > in a VirtualBox Ubuntu on my mac. > > manu > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 13.06.2012, at 21:59, "João Andrade"<jja...@gm...> wrote: > >> Hey, >> >> Aether should be back on parade now. Next is Jnotify >> >> cheers, >> João >> >> >> On 11 June 2012 02:29, João Andrade<jja...@gm...> wrote: >>> # rebasing: http://learn.github.com/p/rebasing.html >>> >>> Hey, >>> >>> Alright :) >>> >>> Finally had the chance to learn a bit more about Git. >>> >>> I was looking into the experimental parade version we have and I >>> believe that before going for any rebasing on parade-nomad's parade >>> project, all the missing files (JNotify, Aether, etc) should be >>> included this experimental version or we'll end up with a non-working >>> version. >>> >>> I'll get this moving during the next few days. >>> >>> cheers, >>> João >>> >>> >>> On 9 June 2012 10:44, Manuel Bernhardt<ber...@gm...> wrote: >>>> Hmm, "parade" and "nomad" are already taken as organizations. I'll try >>>> to think about something else - I think it is possible to rename >>>> organizations >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Manuel Bernhardt >>>> <ber...@gm...> wrote: >>>>> It's the organisation on github.com to host the source repository for parade >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 08.06.2012, at 22:42, Cristian Bogdan<cr...@cs...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I don't know exactly what you are naming but Nomad is a good name >>>>>> >>>>>> cristi >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2012-06-08 19.17, Manuel Bernhardt wrote: >>>>>>> Nomad sounds fun to me. Cristi, opinions? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll see to migrate the rest of the users tomorrow. Creating an >>>>>>> organization is super fast so once we have decided on the name I can >>>>>>> do this in an instant and import the repo. Then you can branch and >>>>>>> import your changes on top of it, not sure yet what is the best method >>>>>>> but we'll figure something out >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Greetings from Helsinki >>>>>>> >>>>>>> manu >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 08.06.2012, at 17:00, "João Andrade"<jja...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Back to this >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 6 June 2012 18:32, Manuel Bernhardt<ber...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Looked a bit into it, I'm now playing with >>>>>>>>> http://cvs2svn.tigris.org/cvs2git.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's really good to have a SSD for this kind of IO intensive operations :-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So Joao if you have time tomorrow maybe you could look at setting up a >>>>>>>>> github organization. The name is still something that'd be interesting >>>>>>>>> to figure out since it's mostly a BEST and KTH cooperation. Maybe >>>>>>>>> "nomad" would be a good name :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ok so shall we name it Nomad? :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Then you can make a branch there and cherry-pick all commits from your >>>>>>>>> repo or replay them on it otherwise. Keeping the history of the last 9 >>>>>>>>> or so years is a good idea I think. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I looked at the github repo, some quick comments: >>>>>>>>> - migration to maven: nice work! a lot more streamlined I suppose. >>>>>>>>> Though how do you run it now? I remember the tomcat configuration has >>>>>>>>> major tweaks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Currently, Maven's only used for dependency management. >>>>>>>> Hum that might explain why I'm having some issues starting STRUTS >>>>>>>> properly. Will have to look into it deeper :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - I saw that you commented out JNotify -- just as a warning, this >>>>>>>>> entirely breaks parade, unless you've found another way of watching >>>>>>>>> file system changes? the problem is that when people sync stuff via >>>>>>>>> unison, changes on the FS aren't updated in the cache unless they are >>>>>>>>> picked up on the FS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Indeed. AFAIR I was getting some errors related to it, but I'll >>>>>>>> re-enable it for sure :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - maybe it's a good idea to comment in the Aether code since anyway it >>>>>>>>> is all wrapped in big IF statements so it won't hurt. and keeping it >>>>>>>>> compiling during refactoring rather than having to figure out after >>>>>>>>> the fact what on earth is going on is probably simpler >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> True. I've been thinking the same lately :) >>>>>>>> In the end, it'll prove easier to have the code uncommented. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>>> João >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> manu >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Manuel Bernhardt >>>>>>>>> <ber...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> It should be 30 min of work, if you list the cvsusers and we can provide >>>>>>>>>> emails for them >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> An interesting question would be hie to call the organization that will hold >>>>>>>>>> the repo >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 06.06.2012, at 18:21, "João Andrade"<jja...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hey, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Indeed. Right now we actually have it in Github. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Manu's idea seems legit to me. Working with Github is certainly and >>>>>>>>>> enjoyable experience, although currently I have no knowledge whatsoever on >>>>>>>>>> its importing capabilities. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>>>>> João >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 6 June 2012 17:16, Manuel Bernhardt<ber...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Why not move to git(hub) directly? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It's so much faster and nicer to use than the super-slow SourceForge >>>>>>>>>>> SVN (or CVS??). And it should be easy to import from the source there >>>>>>>>>>> (to keep commit history etc.), e.g. mapping of CVS users against git >>>>>>>>>>> users is supported AFAIK (you'd need to try& get the git emails of >>>>>>>>>>> all contributors but that should not be too hard). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 5:43 PM, João Andrade<jja...@gm...> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Cristi, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The reason there were no commits is because as we were changing the >>>>>>>>>>>> structure a bit and adding maven for dependency management. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We're currently using a Git repository. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, we're having some problems with starting the struts framework >>>>>>>>>>>> properly. So it'd be unthinkable to commit it to the main working repo. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Once it gets stable, I intend to commit it back to the original SVN >>>>>>>>>>>> repo. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tomorrow it's a national holiday here. I'll try to use some of my time >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> fix this issue and hopefully get a working version. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> p.s. now that I think about it we could've just created a new SVN >>>>>>>>>>>> branch. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> João >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 June 2012 19:08, Cristian Bogdan<cr...@cs...> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi João >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> will you commit / are you committing parade code? I didn't see any >>>>>>>>>>>>> commit >>>>>>>>>>>>> mails. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My concern is, when you are "done" I may be able to start working with >>>>>>>>>>>>> aether again in the new structure. There doesn't seem to be any point >>>>>>>>>>>>> for me >>>>>>>>>>>>> doing anything before that. Plus after that you say you can help, that >>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>> be awesome :) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> cristi >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2012-05-10 01.32, João Andrade wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Cristi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd never think of removing it :). At the moment, aether's code is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> commented out in our working paraDe version. We'll bring it back once >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have a normal base functionality working version. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for helping with aether's reactivation, I wouldn't mind helping >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it in the future. However, at the moment, I'd like to focus on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> refactoring paraDe. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> João >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 May 2012 15:13, Cristian Bogdan<cr...@cs...> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whatever you do in revamping, please don't remove the aether code. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope to revive it and test it. Maybe you Joao want to help, or maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somebody else needs an internship, a thesis or something? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cristi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2012-04-29 17.27, João Andrade wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are currently revamping paraDe. These changes will have a major >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impact on the interface and backend. So lots of refactoring and code >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rewriting everywhere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMHO these changes are crucial, especially in terms of usability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code editor for instance) and code maintainability (there is dead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As these changes may lead to some instability and having other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> testing is essential, we were considering if it'd be possible to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> host >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a testing paraDe version in one of our servers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose zagreb would be fine as well, but anywhere else should be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine (maybe Lisbon as it's not being used currently) :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts/suggestions on this? Those will be extremely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to ask questions, as I can elaborate more :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> João >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> malware >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Parade-developers mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Par...@li... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/parade-developers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>>>>>>>>>>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>>>>>>>>>>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions >>>>>>>>>>>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >>>>>>>>>>>> malware >>>>>>>>>>>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> Parade-developers mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> Par...@li... >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/parade-developers >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> |