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[Chiara <ch...@mo...>]

oops..
it was explorer 6, not 5...

[Openfc-development] Re: changes

[adam <ad...@xs...>]

hey :-)

yep i agree with that! why dont we meet next week? Maybe Monday or
Tuesday?

1st graphic design comes this week i hope by Friday. Goo (the designer is
on the dev list so if you have suggestions then feed them to the list)

adam

also...can we put all thios now through the dev list as there are people
on it from Montevideo, mi2 etc  now too :
<ope...@li...>


On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, petegomes wrote:

> adam and fc'ers
>
> glad all this stuff is of use - but I hope we dont miss something.
> this is the opportunity to get this done once and for all - and it would
> be really annoying to have some stupid little thing left off because we
> didnt  look at it all properly ( i.e. 'we' ...that is  ME as a user).
>
> to be honest I'm thinking things off the top of my head - and ADHOC
> but it would be good to have a real systematic look at it all before you
> finish - and make sure it does all we want it to. especially from a
> clear interface and design point of view - we we have not gone near
> yet. dont knwo how we do this between us tho. the functionality side
> of things is being covered but - the interface and procedures and
> seqeunces for a user makes all the difference - but are easiy
> changed at this stage. there were so many simple things to do with
> clarity that wouod have made the old FC even better.
>
> hope this is not an obvious thing to say - but want to make sure we
> dont leave off  things that would make the new FC super tip top and
> ready to rock ;-)
>
> as I cant wait to get stuck in....
>
> cheers
>
> p
>
>
>
> > hey :-)
> >
> > just made some changes to the test server to include creating
> playlists
> > and scheduling these, still to add the edit/delete functions for
> > playlists
> > but its getting there....also now on the server are:
> >
> > :::formatted list of programs scheduled in readable format
> > -->this is intended to be formatted a lot better but for now it is the
> > framework for
> > the list of programs scheduled taht you mentiuoned...this will be
> able
> > to
> > be used by users for including in their own homepages in the
> format
> > they
> > want (so they can have a 'program guide') ...for now its basic but it
> > will
> > be extended and have a proper grpahic design added to it
> >
> > :::archive list
> > --> lists all the programs a user has in html readable format...this
> is
> > also intended for inclusion by the user in their home pages so they
> can
> > offer a formatted browsable archive to the world...a search feature
> > will
> > be added later....also design will be better when we get to the
> design
> > bit
> >
> > :::create playlist
> > multiple programs can now be stored as one item and scheduled/
> and
> > -rescheduled...cool! needs features i mentioned above but the
> framework
> > is
> > there
> >
> > more replies below:
> > >
> > > one thing you might have forgotten about when we spoke - was
> being
> > able to
> > > insert an image - jpeg -(or maybe animated gif!) when you have
> just
> > AUDIO
> > > running.
> >
> > havent forgotten...will come when we move on top the player (this
> week)
> >
> > >
> > > other thing is how do you share your material with other people?
> > mostly -
> > > if you are running your own channel  - then you will be  looking at
> > stuff
> > > you have put on yourself. - what about if it is open access?
> >
> > when we get the user admin side working you will be able to grant
> other
> > users acces privledges to programs, you will also be able to make
> a
> > program 'public' or 'private'
> >
> > >
> > >  Is there a way where we can list the material by date submitted -
> so
> > we
> > > can see who has loaded/scheduled new material for example.
> > >
> >
> > great idea....will look into this
> >
> >
> > > also:
> > >
> > > if you want to mix other peoples channel material with your own
> how
> > does
> > > that work?
> >
> > as above with user access rightss
> >
> > >
> > > with old FC it was a free for all - How do I go about seeing other
> > peoples
> > > lists - or are these now completely hidden?
> > >
> >
> > they will let you see the formatted program list (above) if they
> > want...but you will only ahve the ability to edit their timetable if
> > they
> > grant you access proviledges to their timetable (this will also be
> > added
> > to the user admin section)
> >
> > > I think maybe its best not to have a big list of stuff. Its too
> > confusing.
> > > but:  What about an option to submit to a general pool?
> > >
> >
> > as above
> > >
> > > so- what about an FC default channel? - which randomly picks
> from the
> > > general pool. This might be the first thing that people see unless
> it
> > is
> > > set to start with a specific schedule. This will allow for a
> > continual,
> > > random mixed programme to always be on. (loop forever!!) One
> main
> > probelm
> > > is that when you show people FC - theres nothing on and you
> always
> > have to
> > > schedule something to show it working.
> >
> > nice idea...but i am hoping there will eb a lot of channels ;-)
> >
> >
> > >
> > > also: if you are running an open schedule - with lots of people
> > scheduling
> > > with no consultation - what happen about over riding a
> programme. as
> > I
> > > remember the old FC allowed you to add a programme over
> another one.
> > > therefore you could schedule and then find it had been taken off
> > because
> > > something had been put ontop. si this the same? can it be
> resolved?
> > >
> >
> > overlapping now cannot occur...if a program exists at the time
> where
> > someone tries to schedule a new program the new FC will NOT
> add the new
> > program to the timetable..this is working now although bug testing
> > would
> > be very much appreciated!
> >
> >
> > > also: what about converting your programme scehdule to html?
> > > one ideal thing is to be able to SEE what is coming up. Old FC -
> a
> > pain
> > > -as you could only see the next programme not the full schdule
> for
> > the day
> > > for example - only if you were on the timetable. Would be great if
> > you
> > > could have a way of displaying the days schedule.
> > >
> >
> > see above, this is in the new FC under 'view programlist'
> >
> > > TV Guides!  We need listings!
> >
> > done!!!!
> >
> > >
> > > and looping for 2 years is fine by me ;-)
> > >
> > >
> >
> > good good!
> >
> > > Will keep looking and let you know of any other thoughts I have.
> > > any ETA on the p
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > GREAT!!!
> >
> > thanks again and again and again...! :-))))
> >
> > adam
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> >

[Openfc-development] Re: changes (fwd)

[adam <ad...@xs...>]

hey :-)

just made some changes to the test server to include creating playlists
and scheduling these, still to add the edit/delete functions for playlists
but its getting there....also now on the server are:

:::formatted list of programs scheduled in readable format
-->this is intended to be formatted a lot better but for now it is the framework for
the list of programs scheduled taht you mentiuoned...this will be able to
be used by users for including in their own homepages in the format they
want (so they can have a 'program guide') ...for now its basic but it will
be extended and have a proper grpahic design added to it

:::archive list
--> lists all the programs a user has in html readable format...this is
also intended for inclusion by the user in their home pages so they can
offer a formatted browsable archive to the world...a search feature will
be added later....also design will be better when we get to the design bit

:::create playlist
multiple programs can now be stored as one item and scheduled/ and
-rescheduled...cool! needs features i mentioned above but the framework is
there

more replies below:
>
> one thing you might have forgotten about when we spoke - was being able to
> insert an image - jpeg -(or maybe animated gif!) when you have just AUDIO
> running.

havent forgotten...will come when we move on top the player (this week)

>
> other thing is how do you share your material with other people? mostly -
> if you are running your own channel  - then you will be  looking at stuff
> you have put on yourself. - what about if it is open access?

when we get the user admin side working you will be able to grant other
users acces privledges to programs, you will also be able to make a
program 'public' or 'private'

>
>  Is there a way where we can list the material by date submitted - so we
> can see who has loaded/scheduled new material for example.
>

great idea....will look into this


> also:
>
> if you want to mix other peoples channel material with your own how does
> that work?

as above with user access rightss

>
> with old FC it was a free for all - How do I go about seeing other peoples
> lists - or are these now completely hidden?
>

they will let you see the formatted program list (above) if they
want...but you will only ahve the ability to edit their timetable if they
grant you access proviledges to their timetable (this will also be added
to the user admin section)

> I think maybe its best not to have a big list of stuff. Its too confusing.
> but:  What about an option to submit to a general pool?
>

as above
>
> so- what about an FC default channel? - which randomly picks from the
> general pool. This might be the first thing that people see unless it is
> set to start with a specific schedule. This will allow for a continual,
> random mixed programme to always be on. (loop forever!!) One main probelm
> is that when you show people FC - theres nothing on and you always have to
> schedule something to show it working.

nice idea...but i am hoping there will eb a lot of channels ;-)


>
> also: if you are running an open schedule - with lots of people scheduling
> with no consultation - what happen about over riding a programme. as I
> remember the old FC allowed you to add a programme over another one.
> therefore you could schedule and then find it had been taken off because
> something had been put ontop. si this the same? can it be resolved?
>

overlapping now cannot occur...if a program exists at the time where
someone tries to schedule a new program the new FC will NOT add the new
program to the timetable..this is working now although bug testing would
be very much appreciated!


> also: what about converting your programme scehdule to html?
> one ideal thing is to be able to SEE what is coming up. Old FC - a pain
> -as you could only see the next programme not the full schdule for the day
> for example - only if you were on the timetable. Would be great if you
> could have a way of displaying the days schedule.
>

see above, this is in the new FC under 'view programlist'

> TV Guides!  We need listings!

done!!!!

>
> and looping for 2 years is fine by me ;-)
>
>

good good!

> Will keep looking and let you know of any other thoughts I have.
> any ETA on the p
>



GREAT!!!

thanks again and again and again...! :-))))

adam



>
>

[Openfc-development] Re: changes (fwd)

[adam <ad...@xs...>]

cheers adam

one thing you might have forgotten about when we spoke - was being able to
insert an image - jpeg -(or maybe animated gif!) when you have just AUDIO
running.

There is real need to be able to mix audio and video - but to keep a
visual component running.  maybe an animated gif is best solution for
this. it can give info - or a URL or something.

*but I think this is v. important.*

folders/organising material is pretty critical - but your on that already.
this will alwo us to archive schedules in folders. few years on you might
have spring 2002 folder, winter 2003 etc - archive of older schedules.

other thing is how do you share your material with other people? mostly -
if you are running your own channel  - then you will be  looking at stuff
you have put on yourself. - what about if it is open access?

 Is there a way where we can list the material by date submitted - so we
can see who has loaded/scheduled new material for example.

also:

if you want to mix other peoples channel material with your own how does
that work?

with old FC it was a free for all - How do I go about seeing other peoples
lists - or are these now completely hidden?

I think maybe its best not to have a big list of stuff. Its too confusing.
but:  What about an option to submit to a general pool?

If ALL new material is not visible to all - maybe you can have an button -
to say "add to FC general list". this would provide a big basic pool of
content that people can experiment with and borrow for their own channel.

I dont think all the material should do this - it should be an option.  I
say this because we want to show that there is different content of diff.
channels. the last we want is people looking at other channels and seeing
the same programme.

so- what about an FC default channel? - which randomly picks from the
general pool. This might be the first thing that people see unless it is
set to start with a specific schedule. This will allow for a continual,
random mixed programme to always be on. (loop forever!!) One main probelm
is that when you show people FC - theres nothing on and you always have to
schedule something to show it working.

also: if you are running an open schedule - with lots of people scheduling
with no consultation - what happen about over riding a programme. as I
remember the old FC allowed you to add a programme over another one.
therefore you could schedule and then find it had been taken off because
something had been put ontop. si this the same? can it be resolved?

also: what about converting your programme scehdule to html?
one ideal thing is to be able to SEE what is coming up. Old FC - a pain
-as you could only see the next programme not the full schdule for the day
for example - only if you were on the timetable. Would be great if you
could have a way of displaying the days schedule.

TV Guides!  We need listings!

and looping for 2 years is fine by me ;-)


Will keep looking and let you know of any other thoughts I have.
any ETA on the p

[Openfc-development] Re: fc test site up (fwd)

[adam <ad...@xs...>]

just forwarding eakier correspondance so it is in the archive

cheers adam  great to have something to look at

re: recurrence

what about if you want to repeat e.g. a 2min clip over and over
everyday for a month? e.g. it will run 24 hours in repetition for a
whole month

this would be useful -  as you might have just one short five min
advert running - which you could schedule in the run up to a live
event -  for example.

a function that says repeat continually forever until ....whenever

actually I think the word i am looking for is 'loop' ! or 'loop clips'?

or maybe 'loop sequence of clips'?

is this possible?

also - I would like a random clip function - the ability to play from
within a pool of clips .

I am playing with 'random montage' techniques with dvd -scripting --
and to emulate this on FC would be fantastic.
e.g. designate 'x' number of clips that will be played in any order -
either looping or playing through once.

also: the ability to put clips in folders -  just for organisation. when
the long list was running - it needed sub dividing  - it will be ok at first
- but when its been running a year it will get messy and
timeconsuming to navigate.

also - is there a player running yet? thanks for the work so far.

cheers

pete

[Openfc-development] docs

[adam <ad...@xs...>]

Hi all,

There are some docs online with information about the player, and a list
of ideas that come up as we go...

url is:

https://sourceforge.net/docman/?group_id=38535


Luka is working on the test site and we will have a beta online for the
scheduling side only next week we hope. Meanwhile the site linked from
openfc.sourceforge.net is updated daily as we sort out fixes etc


adam

[Openfc-development] test

[adam <ad...@xs...>]

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