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From: Luka P. <no...@sk...> - 2002-06-20 01:25:57
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Chiara wrote: > hi, > I logged in as administrator and i got into this error just opening the > timetable. errors like this and errors like "Runtime error" in WinXP are caused by Javascript. i'm not an expert on js, but i think this might be an issue. i'm not familiar on differences on interpreting the javascript on new IEs and netscape. any expert ideas are more then welcome. > another thing: bart had scheduled a programm for four minutes, but with the > buffering it ended before the actual time, maybe because it counts the time > of the buffering inside the scheduling time of the programm? at the moment it seems to me that because of the buffering we kindof cannot guarantee the exact start and end time of events. any solutions/ideas? love, luka -- - nova at skylined dot org - ----------------------------------------------+ The universe is made up of stories, not atoms. |
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From: Luka P. <no...@sk...> - 2002-06-20 01:25:44
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Chiara wrote: > hello, > I have some problems when scheduling with a loop: it is always saying my > event wants to overlap...but when I schedule at the same time without asking > to loop it works.. more: it should be noted (at least on cvs version) that after my today's work i managed to rewrite some of the routines that layout the tables so that it should be rocksolid. however, this is true only for normal (non-looped) and non-overlapping-into-next-day events. so, all looped events and those who overlap into the next day will appear unexpectably out of expectations :)) please bear with it untill next week when i'll be able to further fix that. keep in mind, that this new routine should never again cause problems with _exact_ positions of events on the table, as it calculates events second-accurate. if you don't understand think about how to represent 684000 seconds inside 480 pixels :)) not a trivial thing :)) love, luka -- - nova at skylined dot org - ----------------------------------------------+ The universe is made up of stories, not atoms. |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-19 17:45:40
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the player should now support: mp3,real,windowsmedia,quicktime testing anyone? adam Adam Hyde XS4ALL Internet B.V. mobile : + (31) 06 2903 6248 Eekholt 42 1112 XH Diemen Amsterdam "free, as in 'radio'" |
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From: Chiara <ch...@mo...> - 2002-06-19 13:23:25
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this is the screenshot of it |
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From: Chiara <ch...@mo...> - 2002-06-19 13:19:08
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hi there, seems like the frequency clock is not working right now on explorer but on netscape yes.. and I also have a problem with the window of the chat to be closed |
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From: Chiara <ch...@mo...> - 2002-06-19 12:19:39
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hi, I logged in as administrator and i got into this error just opening the timetable. another thing: bart had scheduled a programm for four minutes, but with the buffering it ended before the actual time, maybe because it counts the time of the buffering inside the scheduling time of the programm? |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-19 10:05:01
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the only trick with ogg is that we havent built support into the player for this yet so i can say now it wont work.... its actually a bit tricky to get it to work in the player because on windows and mac no plugin for IE/mozilla/netscape supports Ogg yet however there is a way to do it with Java...yeeeesh....i will try building in support for it later today but dont be surprised if the player doesnt work for a while with Ogg adam On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, Luka Princic wrote: > gio wrote: > > ogg vorbis > > test-signal_og28k.ogg > > test-signal_og56k.ogg > > test-signal_og64k.ogg > > test-signal_og128k.ogg > > test-signal_og200k.ogg> Anybody know if I can encode .ogg files with Cleaner 5? > > I've never encoded .ogg files... if thats what they are called.. > > they're exactly like mp3s. you can use nice tool > called oggdrop: http://www.vorbis.com/download_win.psp > > ll. > > -- > > - > nova at skylined dot org - > ----------------------------------------------+ > The universe is made up of stories, not atoms. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy > >>> http://thinkgeek.com/sf <<< > > _______________________________________________ > Openfc-development mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openfc-development > Adam Hyde XS4ALL Internet B.V. mobile : + (31) 06 2903 6248 Eekholt 42 1112 XH Diemen Amsterdam "free, as in 'radio'" |
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From: Luka P. <no...@sk...> - 2002-06-19 10:01:07
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gio wrote: > ogg vorbis > test-signal_og28k.ogg > test-signal_og56k.ogg > test-signal_og64k.ogg > test-signal_og128k.ogg > test-signal_og200k.ogg> Anybody know if I can encode .ogg files with Cleaner 5? > I've never encoded .ogg files... if thats what they are called.. they're exactly like mp3s. you can use nice tool called oggdrop: http://www.vorbis.com/download_win.psp ll. -- - nova at skylined dot org - ----------------------------------------------+ The universe is made up of stories, not atoms. |
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From: gio <gi...@sp...> - 2002-06-19 09:19:36
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Hi Chiara, Thats an Italian name. Parli Italiano? Anyhow, I'm in the process of making some more test-signal files. these will all be filed under the "test-signal" genre I should make one for each of these: real system test-signal_real28k.rm (20kbps) test-signal_real56k.rm (28kbps) test-signal_real64k.rm (40kbps) test-signal_real128k.rm (80kbps) test-signal_real200k.rm (300kbps) windows media test-signal_wm28k.wmv (20kbps) test-signal_win56k.wmv (28kbps) test-signal_win64k.wmv (40kbps) test-signal_win128k.wmv (80kbps) test-signal_win200k.wmv (300kbps) quicktime test-signal_qt28k.mov (20kbps) test-signal_qt56k.mov (28kbps) test-signal_qt64k.mov(40kbps) test-signal_qt128k.mov (80kbps) test-signal_qt200k.mov (300kbps) mp3 test-signal_mp28k.mp3 test-signal_mp56k.mp3 test-signal_mp64k.mp3 test-signal_mp128k.mp3 test-signal_mp200k.mp3 ogg vorbis test-signal_og28k.ogg test-signal_og56k.ogg test-signal_og64k.ogg test-signal_og128k.ogg test-signal_og200k.ogg Anybody know if I can encode .ogg files with Cleaner 5? I've never encoded .ogg files... if thats what they are called.. Some files will have to have an audio only version.... Anyhow I think it would be useful to have these test files rather than just blank references. Also might be good to make some of these files a specific lenght, so as to check timing.. 1 minute 15 minutes 1 hour 3 hours 6 hours This begs the question... When adding a program to the frequency clock db, and I am asked to select a "bitrate" from the dropdown menu... is there are there any guidelines as to what the maximum for 28k, 56k, 64k bitrate means? 28k on the dropdown menu is NOT the same as 28kbps file (which would be 56k on the dropdown...) Cause the bitrate dropdown is asking what the minimum connection to view the file is , not the actual bitrate of the file.... Q/ Will the frequency clock db be able to accommodate hundredths of seconds for very precise scheduling... at some later date... (quicktime has hundredths of seconds in timecode) 00.00.00.00 00.01.59.99 is almost 2 minutes long.... I ask this because real often makes files which use tenths of seconds long. (for example test-signal_real56k.rm is 5.1 seconds long...) due to the codec. Actually I think it does thousandths of second, which can be noted when editing a file with realeditor... I'll be over to the FC HQ later today. gio At 18:21 2002-06-19, you wrote: >hello, >I have some problems when scheduling with a loop: it is always saying my >event wants to overlap...but when I schedule at the same time without asking >to loop it works.. > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy > >>> http://thinkgeek.com/sf <<< > >_______________________________________________ >Openfc-development mailing list >Ope...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openfc-development -------------------------------------------------- Giovanni D'Angelo e. <mailto:gi...@sp...> m.+44 [0]7932 727528 --------------------------------------------------- |
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From: Chiara <ch...@mo...> - 2002-06-19 08:25:45
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hello, I have some problems when scheduling with a loop: it is always saying my event wants to overlap...but when I schedule at the same time without asking to loop it works.. |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-19 08:18:41
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hey luka, thanks for the date/time info... was thinking...for making timetable calculation ewasier why dont we think of expnding to 30 pixels per hour...calculates into 60 minues better... adam Adam Hyde XS4ALL Internet B.V. mobile : + (31) 06 2903 6248 Eekholt 42 1112 XH Diemen Amsterdam "free, as in 'radio'" |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-19 08:10:22
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hey gio... thanks for all this!! sending bug reports here is fine....maybe if you have time come over this afternoon, luka is here at 1500... we will look at these bugs today adam On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, gio wrote: > Hi Adam and Dev people. > > Nice to see things in action. > Also the chat is v.nice which means we can do some realtime debugging. > Please let me know when you're online and in chat, I can join you. > > I have quite a few bugs to report, so It might even be easier if I hop on > my bike and come over to see you. :-) > > One little problem with the chat is that I can't seem to close the > java-window once open... > I've set up another test channel called giotv (while logged in as adam). > > The scheduler on this channel appears to have a different time scale from > the graphic with the times beside the scheduler... ie 12midday on the > graphic is equivalent to 14:28 on the scheduler... > > Also the last hour of the day 23:00 has a bigger space than the rest of the > hour slots. > > I hope you don't mind me sending bug reports here. Its easier than using > the bug tracker on sourceforge... > > but if you insist I'll use the bug tracker... > > gio > > > At 13:31 2002-06-18, you wrote: > >the player should now be working with timezones...if you want to test the > >player open a channel timetable and choose the 'play now' link at the > >bottom of the page....it works at this stage only with realmedia > > > >if anyone can test it that would be great > > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy > > >>> http://thinkgeek.com/sf <<< > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Openfc-development mailing list > >Ope...@li... > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openfc-development > > -------------------------------------------------- > Giovanni D'Angelo > > e. <mailto:gi...@sp...> > > m.+44 [0]7932 727528 > --------------------------------------------------- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy > >>> http://thinkgeek.com/sf <<< > > _______________________________________________ > Openfc-development mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openfc-development > Adam Hyde XS4ALL Internet B.V. mobile : + (31) 06 2903 6248 Eekholt 42 1112 XH Diemen Amsterdam "free, as in 'radio'" |
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From: gio <gi...@sp...> - 2002-06-19 04:48:18
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Hi Adam and Dev people. Nice to see things in action. Also the chat is v.nice which means we can do some realtime debugging. Please let me know when you're online and in chat, I can join you. I have quite a few bugs to report, so It might even be easier if I hop on my bike and come over to see you. :-) One little problem with the chat is that I can't seem to close the java-window once open... I've set up another test channel called giotv (while logged in as adam). The scheduler on this channel appears to have a different time scale from the graphic with the times beside the scheduler... ie 12midday on the graphic is equivalent to 14:28 on the scheduler... Also the last hour of the day 23:00 has a bigger space than the rest of the hour slots. I hope you don't mind me sending bug reports here. Its easier than using the bug tracker on sourceforge... but if you insist I'll use the bug tracker... gio At 13:31 2002-06-18, you wrote: >the player should now be working with timezones...if you want to test the >player open a channel timetable and choose the 'play now' link at the >bottom of the page....it works at this stage only with realmedia > >if anyone can test it that would be great > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy > >>> http://thinkgeek.com/sf <<< > >_______________________________________________ >Openfc-development mailing list >Ope...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openfc-development -------------------------------------------------- Giovanni D'Angelo e. <mailto:gi...@sp...> m.+44 [0]7932 727528 --------------------------------------------------- |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-18 12:31:41
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the player should now be working with timezones...if you want to test the player open a channel timetable and choose the 'play now' link at the bottom of the page....it works at this stage only with realmedia if anyone can test it that would be great |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-15 16:27:02
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a basic player is ready ... its version 0.0000000000000000000000000000001 more work on it next week you can find it at the bottom of each timetable...it only works for real media at the moment...it also doesnt yet support different timezones..but y'know ...we will get there adam |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-14 13:51:47
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hey Luka also forgot to mention he has 'looping' working. its located under 'recurring' table.... it works but we discovered a few bugs with the layout of the timetable when we use the looping....we will fix this next week so...pete...any more requests ;-) adam On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Luka Princic wrote: > adam wrote: > > hi all, > > > new changes from my side today: > created player.php in base directory, > created playerlib.php in lib/ directory > > there is a temporary link at the bottom of the > timetable that now opens a separate almost bare window > which displays data for the event that is scheduled in > the timetable/channel for this moment. if there is no > event, it reports that. this is inital starting point, > which will be now incorporated in java scripts for > actual playing of the content. this function should > work on daily/weekly/monthly and looping recurring > events too. test it. > > sorry for ugly timetable layout bug (black blocks not > being cut properly), especially with looping events, > but this will be "killed" next week. > > enjoy the testing. we're doing our best. > > soon, > love, luka > > > > > > > -- > - > - luka nova at skylined dot org - > > > _ > _ > > _ > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > > Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference > August 25-28 in Las Vegas - http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm?source=osdntextlink > > _______________________________________________ > Openfc-development mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openfc-development > Adam Hyde XS4ALL Internet B.V. mobile : + (31) 06 2903 6248 Eekholt 42 1112 XH Diemen Amsterdam "free, as in 'radio'" |
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From: Luka P. <no...@sk...> - 2002-06-14 13:27:57
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adam wrote: > hi all, new changes from my side today: created player.php in base directory, created playerlib.php in lib/ directory there is a temporary link at the bottom of the timetable that now opens a separate almost bare window which displays data for the event that is scheduled in the timetable/channel for this moment. if there is no event, it reports that. this is inital starting point, which will be now incorporated in java scripts for actual playing of the content. this function should work on daily/weekly/monthly and looping recurring events too. test it. sorry for ugly timetable layout bug (black blocks not being cut properly), especially with looping events, but this will be "killed" next week. enjoy the testing. we're doing our best. soon, love, luka -- - - luka nova at skylined dot org - _ _ _ |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-14 13:08:37
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hi all, the new program guides are now navagatable ny calendars testing anyone? adam |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-14 12:22:41
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tricky!! this would be nice but we need to look at a different way to display the timetable. basically it would need complex dhtml or some flash....so for now we cant do this :-( On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Chiara wrote: > > > hi, > could it be possible to select directly on the timetable the programm and > move it with the mouse to another column or time of the same ? > > > _______________________________________________________________ > > Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference > August 25-28 in Las Vegas - http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm?source=osdntextlink > > _______________________________________________ > Openfc-development mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openfc-development > Adam Hyde XS4ALL Internet B.V. mobile : + (31) 06 2903 6248 Eekholt 42 1112 XH Diemen Amsterdam "free, as in 'radio'" |
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From: Chiara <ch...@mo...> - 2002-06-14 12:18:53
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hi, could it be possible to select directly on the timetable the programm and move it with the mouse to another column or time of the same ? |
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From: Chiara <ch...@mo...> - 2002-06-13 14:57:26
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hi, I thought the rollover help meant the one above the programmes on the timetable, so that you could choose whether or not having the boxes showing the time and the name of the programme... |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-13 14:40:49
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rollover help only works on 1 part of the as we havent implemented it in many pl;aces yet, it should work on the [more...] pages of the programs when adding a program to a timetable.... so to check do this: choose 'yes' button on 'rollover help' choose edit timetable choose '[more...] from the program list under the date and time drop down boxes there should be text saying '[help]' does that make a difference chiara? On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Chiara wrote: > rollover help doesn't work when you submit yes, using netscape 6 and > windows 2000. neither with submitting no. > instead rollover help stays on whether > submitting yes or no with explorer 6 and windows 2000. > thsoe lines above came out with errors > occurred using netscape 6 (overlaps?) and windows 2000. > Adam Hyde XS4ALL Internet B.V. mobile : + (31) 06 2903 6248 Eekholt 42 1112 XH Diemen Amsterdam "free, as in 'radio'" |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-13 14:26:18
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new rollovers have been added on the timetable -they shoudl work on netscape 4.7+, mozilla 1.0, and IE 5.0+ on all platforms.... On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, bart wrote: > > as for now we have spotted the first bug: adding a program in timetable > where there used to be a program doesn't work. > > o.s: windows 2000 > browser: IE 6 > description: > when I put a program in the time table (as in pic. 1) and then move to > another date or time in the timetavle (pic. 2). I am not able to use the > time where the program first was. (pic. 3) if you refresh the page you can > use the part of the timetable where a program once was. this problem does > not seem to ocure with netscape. ok, we will look into this...it might be that we fix this late next week as we have a few other things to try first > > > a improvement could be: > > maybe make the coloms of the timetable in 2 colors as in pic. 4. i have done this now...what does everyone think? > > if you start editing a timetable, the date is set to today, can the time > also be set to the current time, because there is no reason the program > anything on a time that is allready past. > > that's it for now. > > grtzs. Chiara and Bart > Adam Hyde XS4ALL Internet B.V. mobile : + (31) 06 2903 6248 Eekholt 42 1112 XH Diemen Amsterdam "free, as in 'radio'" |
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From: Chiara <ch...@mo...> - 2002-06-13 14:17:42
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rollover help doesn't work when you submit yes, using netscape 6 and
windows 2000. neither with submitting no.
instead rollover help stays on whether
submitting yes or no with explorer 6 and windows 2000.
thsoe lines above came out with errors
occurred using netscape 6 (overlaps?) and windows 2000.
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-13 13:38:36
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Hey Bart, You sent this to: ope...@li... which is the admin email adress for the list (me). It should ahve been sent to: ope...@li... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:51:34 +0200 From: Bart <ba...@mo...> To: ope...@li... Subject: hi there Hey everybody We are Chiara and Bart from Montevideo in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. We are going to help Adam and Luka with testing the FQ and we will be working with Adam as he is coming to Amsterdam for the Artist in Residence program. You will recive e-mail from us trough the developmentlist, if we find any bug or come up with an improvement for the FQ. as for now we have spotted the first bug: adding a program in timetable where there used to be a program doesn't work. o.s: windows 2000 browser: IE 6 description: when I put a program in the time table (as in pic. 1) and then move to another date or time in the timetavle (pic. 2). I am not able to use the time where the program first was. (pic. 3) if you refresh the page you can use the part of the timetable where a program once was. this problem does not seem to ocure with netscape. a improvement could be: maybe make the coloms of the timetable in 2 colors as in pic. 4. if you start editing a timetable, the date is set to today, can the time also be set to the current time, because there is no reason the program anything on a time that is allready past. that's it for now. grtzs. Chiara and Bart |
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