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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-07-14 11:12:51
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the design is in place at : http://frequencyclock.montevideo.nl adam Adam Hyde XS4ALL Internet B.V. mobile : + (31) 06 2903 6248 Eekholt 42 1112 XH Diemen Amsterdam "free, as in 'radio'" |
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From: Chiara <ch...@mo...> - 2002-07-12 11:10:41
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hi everybody, there is something about one-second programs that shouldn't be: -when you don't select a time for the program you are adding, then it is converted automatically in a one-second program, and if you don't realize it and start trying scheduling, then you have all these one -programs that you cannot see even with the zoom, and the big problem is that, since you cannot detect them and delete them, you cannot schedule where you have them so, if there is a way to fix this, it would be a great improvement! -then, it still happens that if I program something that, for example, lasts four minutes and starts at 15.56, then it ends at 15.60... -I also tried to add a program at 16.20, right after a program that ended at 16.20, and it didn't work, but when I tried to schedule it at 16.21, it was added to my timetable but saying that it started at 16.20. this is everything for now, ciao chiara . |
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From: Bart <ba...@mo...> - 2002-07-10 15:18:51
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hi all and adam in specific. some other details i ran into, hope i don't get annoying... *when adding a lot of programs, what happens to the list in the edit timetable section? create different pages? max of programs? * in the add program section, when you added a program, a link "add another program" would be nice. * in the update program section and in the create channel section, when you click the frequency clock logo, it's linked to http://radioqualia.va.com.au/freqclock/ but in the same frame, think it's more clear to give it a <target="_blank"> value. *there can be two playlists wit the same name, don't know if it's a problem but thought i should mention. *in the create playlist section, when you try to filter by genre, it links to the add program section. *also in the create playlist section, can there be a select all programs button, especially when there are a lot of programs in it and you want to list them all... * finally: in the fc player, the schedule part is getting long when a lot of programs are scheduled. can the programes that allready passed be cleared from the list? that's all for now. grts bart |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-07-10 12:45:01
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from bart: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:36:32 +0200 From: Bart <ba...@mo...> To: ad...@xs... Subject: smallthingslist here are the details i think could be better... in the fc website: * in the program guide section: the number of todays date is now yellow and the date you are viewing isn't visualalized at all. maybe give the date your viewing the yellow color and make todays date bold. *login name form on focus by opening the fc website (I e-mailed a java code...) *preview button on the customise player section or a direct example image in the page. *after creating a new channel, refresh automaticly with clicking the "create" button. in the fc player: *when resizing the player when you click on schedule it increases in the bottom.(play now opens the window with height 300, schedule button resizes it to 336 height, increase of 36 pixels...i guess) *servertime in minutes in the schedulepart of the player, so people can zet their cpu clock to the server clock... * and the channel links page? is that gonna be on? |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-07-04 12:00:52
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hi all just to say that we had a good few days in amsterdam (Chiara, Bart and myself) and we got a basic customisable player working....its ok on mozilla nd IE on windows, not sure yet about linux, but not yet ok on mac IE (dont know about mac mozilla - just abnout to try) i was also wondering james how your idea for scripting an auto 'add program' was going? off to dubrovnik tonight, back tuesday x adam Adam Hyde XS4ALL Internet B.V. mobile : + (31) 06 2903 6248 Eekholt 42 1112 XH Diemen Amsterdam "free, as in 'radio'" |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-07-02 12:19:53
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hi...i had yo delete all tables on the databse on Frequencyclock.montecideo.nl in the name of better development ;-) this wont happen when its in production of curse, just while we are testing...sorry for any inconveienece adam Adam Hyde XS4ALL Internet B.V. mobile : + (31) 06 2903 6248 Eekholt 42 1112 XH Diemen Amsterdam "free, as in 'radio'" |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-07-02 09:00:36
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hi everyone i was just thinking about the interface and how its best to layout the seperate actions (add program/edit program/ create channel etc) so its not to overwhelming for the user.... so the 'action' list that we have are: create new channel add program edit program create playlist view archive edit timetable (drop down list) customise player (drop down) program guide (drop down) logout for the moment we also have 'info', 'refresh' and 'rollover help' but i think these will not be included in the final layout (perhaps we will keep rollover help but i am not sure) so....I was thinking maybe we simply the list so on the navigation bar on the left we have : Create Channel Manage Programs Edit Timetable (drop down) Channel Options (drop down) When each of these options open there would be another navigation bar at the top of the page for 'Manage Programs' and 'Channel Options' On the navigation bar for 'Manage Programs' we would have: Add New Program Edit Existing Program Create Playlist Edit Playlist View Program Archive On the navigation bar for 'Channel Options' we would have: Customise Player Customise Program Guide (still to be developed) User Priviledges (to be developed) does that make sense to everyone? please suggest alternative models as this is quite a critial element to get right...all ideas welcome!!! :-) adam Adam Hyde XS4ALL Internet B.V. mobile : + (31) 06 2903 6248 Eekholt 42 1112 XH Diemen Amsterdam "free, as in 'radio'" |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-27 07:29:24
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hey all :-) > > which is exaclty what should be fixed next, i guess: > > 1) obligatory diplay of very short events + optional > "multiple events in this block" overlay, and > 2) (a task from almost the beginning of the > development,) representing events that started in > previous day which is off the view. I agree! > > oh, yes, and another thing, here on my laptop (linux, > debian, mozilla 1.0.0) the timezone is -60 althought > my clock is gmt. dunno really why, and it might be a > special case with linux and all, but just to have in mind. can you tell me if the timezone on your machine is gmt or london time as they are different at the moment, london should be -60 (london time - 60 = gmt). I tried this on linux with mozilla 1 and it worked...so let me know... :-) |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-26 23:09:28
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super cool!!! I have updated the test server :-) adam On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Luka Princic wrote: > > > (sorry, i'm sending this for the third time.. i always > screwed up something... doh) > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: new stuff, new fixes... > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 23:00:25 +0100 > From: Luka Princic <no...@sk...> > To: openfc-development-admin > <ope...@li...> > > > > hi all, > > i'm sending this to development list, so everyone see > how it goes and all the details. i hope that's > alright. let me know, if not.... > > > adam wrote: > > cool! let me know how it goes :-) > > ugh! > > this one was dirty. overlapping should be fixed now. i > updated from the repository and commited back the new > stuff. basicaly what caused problems were addEvent, > addMultipleEvent and updateEvent functions, and also > all the calculations in ttlayout function in the > ttlay.php. so the table should be really tight without > moving, and overlapping 'without reason' should not > occurr anymore except in two cases: > > 1)events smaller then 30seconds which are not visible > at all, and 2)events that started in previous day and > stretch out in to the first day of the table. > > which is exaclty what should be fixed next, i guess: > > 1) obligatory diplay of very short events + optional > "multiple events in this block" overlay, and > 2) (a task from almost the beginning of the > development,) representing events that started in > previous day which is off the view. > > i hope that was clear. quite some code was fixed, and, > quite importantly, a some kind of debugging function > was incoporated in functions responsible for adding > and updating events when the fc reports there is an > overlap -- all testers should take really care about > this debugging table, as it can reveal all the strange > things that can happen. (we can hide it later in the > html source with <!-- / --> > > i'm attaching the screenshot. > > oh, yes, and another thing, here on my laptop (linux, > debian, mozilla 1.0.0) the timezone is -60 althought > my clock is gmt. dunno really why, and it might be a > special case with linux and all, but just to have in mind. > > how's that? > > love, luka > ps: hold on, while adam updates the server.. > > > > > -- > > - > nova at skylined dot org - > ----------------------------------------------+ > The universe is made up of stories, not atoms. > > > > > -- > > - > nova at skylined dot org - > ----------------------------------------------+ > The universe is made up of stories, not atoms. > > > Adam Hyde XS4ALL Internet B.V. mobile : + (31) 06 2903 6248 Eekholt 42 1112 XH Diemen Amsterdam "free, as in 'radio'" |
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From: Luka P. <no...@sk...> - 2002-06-26 22:28:22
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(sorry, i'm sending this for the third time.. i always screwed up something... doh) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: new stuff, new fixes... Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 23:00:25 +0100 From: Luka Princic <no...@sk...> To: openfc-development-admin <ope...@li...> hi all, i'm sending this to development list, so everyone see how it goes and all the details. i hope that's alright. let me know, if not.... adam wrote: > cool! let me know how it goes :-) ugh! this one was dirty. overlapping should be fixed now. i updated from the repository and commited back the new stuff. basicaly what caused problems were addEvent, addMultipleEvent and updateEvent functions, and also all the calculations in ttlayout function in the ttlay.php. so the table should be really tight without moving, and overlapping 'without reason' should not occurr anymore except in two cases: 1)events smaller then 30seconds which are not visible at all, and 2)events that started in previous day and stretch out in to the first day of the table. which is exaclty what should be fixed next, i guess: 1) obligatory diplay of very short events + optional "multiple events in this block" overlay, and 2) (a task from almost the beginning of the development,) representing events that started in previous day which is off the view. i hope that was clear. quite some code was fixed, and, quite importantly, a some kind of debugging function was incoporated in functions responsible for adding and updating events when the fc reports there is an overlap -- all testers should take really care about this debugging table, as it can reveal all the strange things that can happen. (we can hide it later in the html source with <!-- / --> i'm attaching the screenshot. oh, yes, and another thing, here on my laptop (linux, debian, mozilla 1.0.0) the timezone is -60 althought my clock is gmt. dunno really why, and it might be a special case with linux and all, but just to have in mind. how's that? love, luka ps: hold on, while adam updates the server.. -- - nova at skylined dot org - ----------------------------------------------+ The universe is made up of stories, not atoms. -- - nova at skylined dot org - ----------------------------------------------+ The universe is made up of stories, not atoms. |
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From: Luka P. <no...@sk...> - 2002-06-26 21:44:43
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hi all, i'm sending this to development list, so everyone see how it goes and all the details. i hope that's alright. let me know, if not.... adam wrote: > cool! let me know how it goes :-) ugh! this one was dirty. overlapping should be fixed now. i updated from the repository and commited back the new stuff. basicaly what caused problems were addEvent, addMultipleEvent and updateEvent functions, and also all the calculations in ttlayout function in the ttlay.php. so the table should be really tight without moving, and overlapping 'without reason' should not occurr anymore except in two cases: 1)events smaller then 30seconds which are not visible at all, and 2)events that started in previous day and stretch out in to the first day of the table. which is exaclty what should be fixed next, i guess: 1) obligatory diplay of very short events + optional "multiple events in this block" overlay, and 2) (a task from almost the beginning of the development,) representing events that started in previous day which is off the view. i hope that was clear. quite some code was fixed, and, quite importantly, a some kind of debugging function was incoporated in functions responsible for adding and updating events when the fc reports there is an overlap -- all testers should take really care about this debugging table, as it can reveal all the strange things that can happen. (we can hide it later in the html source with <!-- / --> i'm attaching the screenshot. oh, yes, and another thing, here on my laptop (linux, debian, mozilla 1.0.0) the timezone is -60 althought my clock is gmt. dunno really why, and it might be a special case with linux and all, but just to have in mind. how's that? love, luka ps: hold on, while adam updates the server.. -- - nova at skylined dot org - ----------------------------------------------+ The universe is made up of stories, not atoms. |
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From: Luka P. <no...@sk...> - 2002-06-26 15:50:42
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adam wrote: > hi all.. > > > james had an interesting question...i think he said he might know a coder > taht could help with this if we can come up with a good solution > > suppose a user has a lot of streaming files already in a directory or > series of directories and wants to add them to their FC...how do they do > this easily? > > one way, the only existing way, at the moment is to add each file > individually through the fc 'add program' interface > > but this is slow... > > so i think i can see two possible ways to make this easier: > 1. if the user has a directory with streaming media files, AND these > directories have some scripting support, then the following could happen: > a) make a script to drop into any directory with streaming files in it > b) this script would read each file in a dir and recurse through other > directories looking for files with a prefixes like '.ra', '.rm', '.asf' > etc and write these into a formatted file....something like: > filename,url > > eg: radio.rm, http://www.radioqualia.net/streaming/radio.rm > c) then another script, this time as part of the frequency clock site can > be pointed to the file (above), and read in this information and output a > listing of all the files with the fields that need to be completed.... > > > -------------- > the other way > -------------- > make a Visual Basic application that will read recursively through a > folder, open each file and read the data frome ach file be it Quicktime, > windowsmedia, mp3, ogg (not sure if this can eb done with ogg with VB), > and real....the data that can be collected for each file would include: > a) length > b) name > c) bitrate > d) location (url) > e) codec-specififc metadata (eg real have fields for author, copyright > etc) > f) format - video / audio > g) codec > > all this can be gathered automatically by a clever VB app and then create > a formatted file that can be used in the same way as described above for > inputting the data into the fc db... > > anyways...anyone else any idea how to do this?...gio? luka? how is this data collected with VBscript? are there specifications where the info for each kind of media resides within the media file? if there are, there can be developed a simple php script that could localy (run on the server where the files reside) check for all this data and return it in wanted form. see second 'user contributed note' on http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.filesystem.php how this can be done with mp3s. in the case of this contributed code, because it is using fopen() function to access the file, i suspect this would _actually_ be possible also with remote files (on other servers). it's plausible. what do you think? -- - nova at skylined dot org - ----------------------------------------------+ The universe is made up of stories, not atoms. |
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From: Chiara <ch...@mo...> - 2002-06-26 14:38:47
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hello everybody, it happened that i was trying to download a file from adam's "blink" timetable and i messed up with my schedule and added the ' video' programm which i then wanted to delete, but there is no way to do it... a button do delete a channel i think would also be good..it is important to create but then also to delete something if you don't like it or just doesn't work out well... -another thing is that i keep on getting the error of the page that is not displayed in the right way and i still have the problems i wrote yesterday about scheduling.. ciao chiara |
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From: Chiara <ch...@mo...> - 2002-06-25 15:34:50
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hi! after some testing I figured out that scheduling a program from the "more.."menu is giving some problems. when I click on "more..." and start scheduling from there, it works when = I click on the timetable. the right time and date appears in the drop-down menu's. but when i choose a time and date from the drop-down menu's, it s= ays it overlaps. when i try to go back to the "more..."menu and try it with clicking the timetable, it's not working anymore, while it worked before = i got the error. to get this right: clicking the timetable and then click =E4dd to timetab= le" is working, untill i choose a time and date and get an overlap error, the= n i also cannot get it done the other way. this is on both netscape and ie on windows 2000. attached is the part that i refer to as the moore..menu. a bit strange in the "moore..."menu is the recurrencemenu, that doesn't s= ay if it's the date, year or time, just the dropdowns with the numbers. ciao chiara+bart |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-25 11:31:16
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these formatted files could be xml based for future possible additional use Adam Hyde XS4ALL Internet B.V. mobile : + (31) 06 2903 6248 Eekholt 42 1112 XH Diemen Amsterdam "free, as in 'radio'" |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-25 11:28:48
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hi all.. james had an interesting question...i think he said he might know a coder taht could help with this if we can come up with a good solution suppose a user has a lot of streaming files already in a directory or series of directories and wants to add them to their FC...how do they do this easily? one way, the only existing way, at the moment is to add each file individually through the fc 'add program' interface but this is slow... so i think i can see two possible ways to make this easier: 1. if the user has a directory with streaming media files, AND these directories have some scripting support, then the following could happen: a) make a script to drop into any directory with streaming files in it b) this script would read each file in a dir and recurse through other directories looking for files with a prefixes like '.ra', '.rm', '.asf' etc and write these into a formatted file....something like: filename,url eg: radio.rm, http://www.radioqualia.net/streaming/radio.rm c) then another script, this time as part of the frequency clock site can be pointed to the file (above), and read in this information and output a listing of all the files with the fields that need to be completed.... -------------- the other way -------------- make a Visual Basic application that will read recursively through a folder, open each file and read the data frome ach file be it Quicktime, windowsmedia, mp3, ogg (not sure if this can eb done with ogg with VB), and real....the data that can be collected for each file would include: a) length b) name c) bitrate d) location (url) e) codec-specififc metadata (eg real have fields for author, copyright etc) f) format - video / audio g) codec all this can be gathered automatically by a clever VB app and then create a formatted file that can be used in the same way as described above for inputting the data into the fc db... anyways...anyone else any idea how to do this?...gio? luka? adam Adam Hyde XS4ALL Internet B.V. mobile : + (31) 06 2903 6248 Eekholt 42 1112 XH Diemen Amsterdam "free, as in 'radio'" |
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From: Chiara <ch...@mo...> - 2002-06-21 09:49:58
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...it means ' completed, but with mistakes in the page' ... |
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From: Chiara <ch...@mo...> - 2002-06-21 09:42:44
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hi, here is the screenshot of the error I get |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-20 17:02:45
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hey Chiara... I fixed that bug with the 60 minutes! good spotting! > the timetable doesn't convert the seconds into hours: a program of five > minutes starting at 16.55 ends at 16.60! .. > 1- fq player doesn't play anything and says 'nothing scheduled' although on > the timetable there is a program scheduled for that time: if there is an > error about the file it doesn't say anything and only writes 'nothing > scheduled' thats a problem...can you chek to see if your clock on your computer is set to the right time? > > 2- still says that the event wants to overlap even if there is nothing > scheduled at that time on the timetable and the timetable is just been > created > I know...thats a bug alright...Luka will work on taht next week > 3- get an error advertisement when log in as admin: -the page is not showed > properly- > > hmmm.,...can u send me a screen shot of this? :-) adam > > all this both with windows 2000 and Mac 9.2.2 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy > >>> http://thinkgeek.com/sf <<< > > _______________________________________________ > Openfc-development mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openfc-development > Adam Hyde XS4ALL Internet B.V. mobile : + (31) 06 2903 6248 Eekholt 42 1112 XH Diemen Amsterdam "free, as in 'radio'" |
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From: Chiara <ch...@mo...> - 2002-06-20 15:05:20
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hello, the timetable doesn't convert the seconds into hours: a program of five minutes starting at 16.55 ends at 16.60! .. also, I sent a message that was too big before, if you haven't got it here is the text I wrote again: hi, here are a few things that came out: 1- fq player doesn't play anything and says 'nothing scheduled' although on the timetable there is a program scheduled for that time: if there is an error about the file it doesn't say anything and only writes 'nothing scheduled' 2- still says that the event wants to overlap even if there is nothing scheduled at that time on the timetable and the timetable is just been created 3- get an error advertisement when log in as admin: -the page is not showed properly- all this both with windows 2000 and Mac 9.2.2 |
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From: Chiara <ch...@mo...> - 2002-06-20 12:36:04
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hi, here are a few things that came out: 1- fq player doesn't play anything and says 'nothing scheduled' although on the timetable there is a programm scheduled for that time: if there is an error about the file it doesn't say anything and only writes 'nothing scheduled' 2- still says that the event wants to overlap even if there is nothing scheduled at that time on the timetable and the timetable is just been created 3- get an error advertisement when log in as admin: -the page is not showed properly- all this both with windows 2000 and Mac 9.2.2 |
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From: Chiara <ch...@mo...> - 2002-06-20 07:58:41
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-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: ope...@li... [mailto:ope...@li...]Namens adam Verzonden: donderdag 20 juni 2002 6:59 Aan: ope...@li... Onderwerp: Re: [Openfc-development] (no subject) On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Chiara wrote: > hi there, > > seems like the frequency clock is not working right now on explorer but on > netscape yes.. Hey Chiara I meant to ask - what Operating System where you using? Mac or Windows or Linux? > > and I also have a problem with the window of the chat to be closed > I was using windows 2000 yesterday...today I am going to test a bit with Mac... ciao > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy > >>> http://thinkgeek.com/sf <<< > > _______________________________________________ > Openfc-development mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openfc-development > ------------------------------------------------------- Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy >>> http://thinkgeek.com/sf <<< _______________________________________________ Openfc-development mailing list Ope...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openfc-development |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-20 05:09:40
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hey all, I was thinking that we should keep chat open while testing (chat is linked from the player). That way we can talk to each other while testing and developing. Chiara wrote: > and I also have a problem with the window of the chat to be closed hmmm...does anyone know of a better chat we could use? I like the chat in the player but matbe there is a better (non-java) way to do it...anyone have any suggestions? Maybe a PHP chat could be good..... so maybe some news: I will be travelling quite a bit for the next 5 weeks but I will always be onloine and able to work on the Frequency Clock. Luka will be doing work from London too, so please keep comments and bug reports coming! I think my travelling will mean that the proposed meeting by Pete may have to wait :-( The good news however is that I will goto Berlin for a few days and speak with Micz Flor about developing the project in conjunction with Lowlive (a scheduling system he has built). Also, Gio is going to do some interface work for the project making it a bit more sensible. We had a good meeting today about this witrh Gio and I think if Gio has the time it would be great if he implements this directly :-) and lastly Goo is doing the design and he has some nice ideas so far. When he has something to show I will post it for comments... I hope all is well :-) |
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From: adam <ad...@xs...> - 2002-06-20 04:58:49
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On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Chiara wrote: > hi there, > > seems like the frequency clock is not working right now on explorer but on > netscape yes.. Hey Chiara I meant to ask - what Operating System where you using? Mac or Windows or Linux? > > and I also have a problem with the window of the chat to be closed > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy > >>> http://thinkgeek.com/sf <<< > > _______________________________________________ > Openfc-development mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openfc-development > |
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From: Luka P. <no...@sk...> - 2002-06-20 01:26:14
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Chiara wrote: > this is the screenshot of it > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > hi chiara! if you get mysql errors, you should try to copy paste them. there actually shouldn't be any strange stuff with them. basicly the function that does sql queries always report what kind of query it did when an error occured. without looking at this nobody can really tell what happened. if there is no ID, it means the system didn't recieve any user id which can happen if you logged out and went back again to fc.php frameset without login in. but this is speculation. if there are other errors, it would be nice to know what kind. -- - nova at skylined dot org - ----------------------------------------------+ The universe is made up of stories, not atoms. |
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