From: Michael H. <mic...@la...> - 2012-03-25 08:34:48
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On 03/25/2012 01:50 AM, kevin schulte wrote: > Isn't that the point of the reference electrode? since its > receiving the same background noise as the electrode thats measuring > minus the eeg signal, it then cancels out (so bluetooth, cellphones, > computers, radio transmissions tv's etc have no effect on the reading) The point is not so much that radiating devices might have an influence on the measuring devices, through cable/etc, which is also possible, but might be cancelled out as you describe. But the real point is that microwaves influence your brain waves, which I'd consider as pretty much annoying and not wanted, with or without measuring EEG. Best regards Michael > > Kevin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Michael Heiming <mic...@la...> > *To:* "Discussion of EEG hardware, software, training protocols, NFB > theory - for developers and users." <ope...@li...> > *Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2012 11:05 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Openeeg-list] Wireless USB for MOD-EEG-SMT > > On 03/22/2012 02:12 AM, Robert Palle wrote: >> Michael, >> Think it is possible. >> Though, again the first issue will be power. >> The second may be the software driver. >> >> Keep us posted, I was thinking along the same lines. >> >> Just ordered the Olimex with active probes, can't wait. > > Robert, > > IRDA would be a good idea, no EMFs disturbing measurements! I mean we > are an electromagnetic being! People have been fooled by industry as > well as international bodies, did you know the same person who set up > those EMF guidelines used almost everywhere, as he was head of a > German private (industry sponsored) ICNIRP, was then head of the WHO > EMF board and declared exactly this fraudulent limits (who only > protect you from not being barbecued in a few minutes) as valid for > the whole world! > > This should be an introducing to the problem: > > http://microondes.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/icnirp-cherry-critics-en.pdf > > So bluetooth should be also a no go, as it radiates also and would be > very likely having influence on measurements! > > For the sake of it I do not get all these wireless devices in > hospitals these days, are they looking into killing people or healing > them? But then if you look a bit closer, there have been just a very > few medicinal doctors strikes around the world and in any case, death > rates dropped dramatically! Just as some (lost) study found in remote > areas, the fewer doctors/etc. the more healthy and long living people > are! > > Best regards > > > Michael Heiming > BTW > Sorry for incorporating RFC-1855 these days...;-) > > >> >> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 6:02 PM, <dna...@al... >> <mailto:dna...@al...>> wrote: >> >> Thank you for the discourse and insight. >> >> I am basically trying to capture and transfer data wirelessly, >> and see if it is even possible to do so. >> >> Any other comments are encouraged. >> >> Again, thank you. >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Robert Palle <kc...@gm... >> <mailto:kc...@gm...>> wrote: >> >> Michael , >> This is an interesting notion though. What about IRDA? or >> BlueTooth? >> Course a power source would be needed. >> Robert >> >> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Michael Heiming >> <mic...@la... <mailto:mic...@la...>> wrote: >> >> On 03/21/2012 11:06 PM, dna...@al... >> <mailto:dna...@al...> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I was wondering if anyone has developed a _wireless_ USB >>> connection for their MOD-EEG-SMT? To my knowledge, >>> Olimex does not provide one (exception of the actual USB >>> /cord/ provided with the unit). Any information on say, >>> programming a wireless USB (or if I am even in the right >>> direction) to work on the MOD-EEG-SMT would be very >>> helpful. >> >> I would suggest not to underestimate the influence of >> wireless gadgets such as WiFi on the measuring itself, >> beyond certain Values you will for sure see you are >> modifying brain waves with the WiFi radiation. ;-( >> >> And I dunno if you really want that? >> >> Best regards >> >> >> Michael >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> This SF email is sponsosred by: >> Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure >> _______________________________________________ >> Openeeg-list mailing list >> Ope...@li... >> <mailto:Ope...@li...> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openeeg-list >> Go to the above address to change your >> subscription options, e.g unsubscribe. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> This SF email is sponsosred by: >> Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure >> _______________________________________________ >> Openeeg-list mailing list >> Ope...@li... >> <mailto:Ope...@li...> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openeeg-list >> Go to the above address to change your >> subscription options, e.g unsubscribe. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> "It's never too late to be who you might have been." - George Eliot >> >> Joseph A. 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