FW: Re: [Once-content] Content and Art

[Kayvan G. <kay...@ho...>]

Forwarding from mafm, who has problems sending mails currently...

>From: "Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo" <man...@gm...>
>To: Kayvan Gerami <kay...@ho...>
>Subject: Re: [Once-content] Content and Art
>Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 20:37:54 +0200
>
>hi,
>
>I explained this in a reply to Thomi, maybe the mail went only to the
>media list.. I'll explain it again.
>
>- about swimming, water was proposed as a natural barrier.
>
>from the game point of view doesn't make much sense that a guy with a
>full backpack with minerals, weapons, heavy armor and all the stuff go
>to swim. in addition, the inventory should at least be affected
>(scrolls, food, etc).
>
>sure, we could force people to leave all inventory in the ground and
>even be naked, but this has also a few problems: if the sea is not a
>natural barrier you could swim endlessly, so you would have to find
>methods to make a fake endless sea; for swim you would need to invert
>gravity and other tricks; more animations for the models; etc.
>
>so swimming doesn't have to be discarded for future, but would help a
>lot to not have it there initially :)
>
>
>- about fishing, the main difference is that for animals in the land
>(and in the sea, if you can submerge) we need to have them loaded all
>the time, acting like they should act (predators, etc); but with fishing
>we just need to load them when you catch them, not all the time. so in
>this case we would have to program the behaviours of the animals, but
>not the one of the fishes.
>
>
>- anyway, I was not asking to remove the fishes or anything :P, but to
>add land animals.. even if the sea is important, the land is usually
>where most of the action takes place.
>
>I still think that we should have a few "standard" animals: why can we
>have trouts, rats or tui birds, but not wolves or goats? at least wolves
>are not that common... we can't stop development waiting for people to
>design the things if we need them now, and animals with models already
>done in worldforge would be a big advantage to take a few of them and
>put them in the game (more than anything, we're lacking artists).
>
>we can always have that fancier animals later, and I also would like to
>have strange animals, but as I said we can't stop the development of
>this for months.
>
>hmm, what about this: making animals which act like, say, cows or
>chickens or wolves, so we can use the model from WF for a while, and
>then replace it with the fancier model?
>
>most of the animals that you can create have to adopt similar patterns
>of behaviour, and that's what we programmers need: I don't mind if it
>has ten horns or it's a simple box :) (we only need to have different
>models to know what type of animal is there).
>
>so in this case, it would help a lot if you -or any other person- would
>make such a list explaining not how the animal should look like but
>what's the behaviour. please, let me know of the progress of that list.
>
>
>Qua, 2005-05-04 às 09:41 +0000, Xander escreveu:
> >  Yes that would not be good, why was it propossed that we cant swim?
> >
> >  I made the fish list ages ago, it was designed to give variety and
> > interest to the normaly very boring fishing skills... allowing harpoon
> > fights with sea monsters and so on. I think that the sea should be
> > just as alive as the land.
> >
> > But even if swimming was a problem, fishing in boats would still be
> > important.
> >
> > I will have a go at filling up the animal list with firstly animals
> > that exist here, then extinct ones (dodos ;) ) and then finaly the
> > made up "uber" animals, like dragons and stuff. I will also try to
> > snap away from the cliche creatures but still include basic things...
> > dont forget the rat killing quests :P
> >
> > I will also make sure we have wierd animals but still from the real
> > world, i get a bit sick of mmorpgs either shoving normal rats or made
> > up creatures in deserts instead of using real creatures.
> >
> > Any suggestions are welcome.
>
>--
>Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo <man...@gm...>
>

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