Thread: Shortcut keys for Windows

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I'm new to using OmegaT - is there a list of shortcut keys for use in 
Windows platform? I couldn't find mention of this in the User Manual.

Thanks and regards
Louise Ambrosi

On 15 sept. 06, at 06:05, Louise Ambrosi wrote:

> I'm new to using OmegaT - is there a list of shortcut keys for use in
> Windows platform? I couldn't find mention of this in the User Manual.

Which version are you using ?

The current RC12a had shortcut info in the user interface section/ 
menu items.

Jean-Christophe

Am Freitag 15 September 2006 02:28 schrieb Jean-Christophe Helary:
> On 15 sept. 06, at 06:05, Louise Ambrosi wrote:
> > I'm new to using OmegaT - is there a list of shortcut keys for use in
> > Windows platform? I couldn't find mention of this in the User Manual.
>
> Which version are you using ?

Louise is using RC10, but the user manual info is the same.

What we are looking for is a comprehensive list of shortcuts, e.g. End - move 
cursor to end of line, Ctrl-End - move cursor to end of segment, Shift-End - 
mark from cursor to end of line, Shift-Ctrl-End - mark from cursor to end of 
segment, etc. (These are on Linux; I don't know whether they differ on 
Windows.)

Marc

On 15 sept. 06, at 15:14, Marc Prior wrote:

> What we are looking for is a comprehensive list of shortcuts, e.g.  
> End - move
> cursor to end of line, Ctrl-End - move cursor to end of segment,  
> Shift-End -
> mark from cursor to end of line, Shift-Ctrl-End - mark from cursor  
> to end of
> segment, etc. (These are on Linux; I don't know whether they differ on
> Windows.)

Ok, you mean general OS shortcuts for text fields ?

They are not in any manual. Maybe we could make a list with Windows/ 
Linux/OSX in mind though.

Jean-Christophe Helary

Am Freitag 15 September 2006 08:18 schrieb Jean-Christophe Helary:
>
> Ok, you mean general OS shortcuts for text fields ?

Yes. I thought they were standard combinations for the OS, but I got the 
impression from Louise that they weren't.

Marc

On 15 sept. 06, at 15:25, Marc Prior wrote:

> Am Freitag 15 September 2006 08:18 schrieb Jean-Christophe Helary:
>>
>> Ok, you mean general OS shortcuts for text fields ?
>
> Yes. I thought they were standard combinations for the OS, but I  
> got the
> impression from Louise that they weren't.

It may be that Java adds its interpretation to the whole thing, which  
would render some shortcuts unavailable in OmegaT. I never paid  
attention to that but it is a possibility.

JC

Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:29:47 +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary 
<helary@...> skribis:

> It may be that Java adds its interpretation to the whole thing

It's definitely so. For example, Ctrl+Del in most of native Windows 
applications deletes a word (or a word part) right to the cursor, but Java 
programs do not offer this functionality (and many similar shortucts ГЇВїВЅ 
this irritates a bit, because I'm used to it).

I also remember, that in one build Maxym engaged Ctrl+C for some OmegaT 
command (I guess, to compile translations), but Java simply intercepted it 
and pasted from buffer. Java definitely tries to seize all it can.

Best regards,

Dmitri Gabinski

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Dmitri Gabinski het geskryf:

> It's definitely so. For example, Ctrl+Del in most of native Windows 
> applications deletes a word (or a word part) right to the cursor...

Cool!  I didn't know about that one... Ctrl+Del and Ctrl+Backspace to 
delete whole words.  My method for deleting words up to now was to 
highlight them and press Del (or to just start typing, which overwrites 
what you've highlighted (in most programs, but not all)).

Samuel

Fri, 15 Sep 2006 09:13:16 +0200, Samuel Murray <leuce@...> 
skribis:

> Cool!  I didn't know about that one...

Well, Samuel, read those fine manuals ;-) Did you then know that 
Shift+Ctrl+arrow (left or right) selects a word to respectively left or 
right?

Best regards,

Dmitri Gabinski

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Jean-Christophe Helary het geskryf:

> It may be that Java adds its interpretation to the whole thing, which  
> would render some shortcuts unavailable in OmegaT. I never paid  
> attention to that but it is a possibility.

You may have a point there... I should have tested the shortcuts given 
in my previous mail, but most of them do work (I have used them).  In 
fact that fact that Ctrl+A works on the segment edit block only is a 
great tool for writing scripts that require copying the source text to 
the clipboard.

Samuel

Marc Prior het geskryf:

> What we are looking for is a comprehensive list of shortcuts, e.g. End - move 
> cursor to end of line, Ctrl-End - move cursor to end of segment...

I have myself thought that these might be useful in the OmT manual, 
because a user might not be aware of the OS's keyboard shortcuts.  For 
the most part, in OmT if the cursor is in the segment editing block, 
then these shortcuts behave as if the segment editing block is a whole 
document (at least that's what it does on my computer).

Ctrl+C = copy
Ctrl+V = paste
Ctrl+X = cut

Shift+left/rightarrow = highlights the text as the cursor moves one 
character to the left/right

Ctrl+left/rightarrow = jumps one word to the left/right (or whatever the 
OS and RTE together regard as a "word", eg on my system, a hyphen is not 
a word breaker but an ampersand is... weird, hey).

Ctrl+Shift+left/rightarrow = highlights one word at a time to the left 
or right of the initial position of the cursor (in some Microsoft and 
other programs, if the cursor was initially in the middle of a word, 
then that entire word is highlighted -- I hate that)

End = cursor goes to end of line
Home = cursor goes to beginning of line

Shift+End = highlights everything up to the end of the line
Shift+Home = highlights everything up to the beginning of the line

Ctrl+End = goes to end of document
Ctrl+Home = goes to beginning of document

Ctrl+Shift+End = ... guess what it does!
Ctrl+Shift+Home = ... guess what it does!  Very annoying if it happens 
on a very long document, though.

Ctrl+A = highlights everything

When holding down Shift, you can do all sorts of things using arrows, 
Home, End and the Ctrl button, and as long as you don't release Shift, 
the text will remain highlighted.  I often use Ctrl+leftarrow to get to 
the beginning of a word, then Ctrl+Shift+rightarrow to highlight the 
word, and if the space after the word was also highlighted, I use 
Shift+leftarrow to unselect that space while still highligting the word. 
  Takes practice, but it increases your typing speed tremendously.

Samuel

Thanks Samuel. JC, can you add these notes to the stuff you are planning to 
add to the User Manual, or file them for future reference?

My system (SuSE 10/KDE) behaves the same way as Samuel's, with the exception 
which he notes "(in some Microsoft and other programs, if the cursor was 
initially in the middle of a word, then that entire word is highlighted -- I 
hate that)".

I also have one mouse-click to place the cursor, a second mouse-click at the 
same point to highlight the word, and a third to highlight the line (a fourth 
should logically highlight the segment, but it doesn't). Is this a Linux/KDE 
function, or do you Windows users also have it?

Marc

Am Freitag 15 September 2006 08:33 schrieb Samuel Murray:
> Marc Prior het geskryf:
> > What we are looking for is a comprehensive list of shortcuts, e.g. End -
> > move cursor to end of line, Ctrl-End - move cursor to end of segment...
>
> I have myself thought that these might be useful in the OmT manual,
> because a user might not be aware of the OS's keyboard shortcuts.  For
> the most part, in OmT if the cursor is in the segment editing block,
> then these shortcuts behave as if the segment editing block is a whole
> document (at least that's what it does on my computer).
>
> Ctrl+C = copy
> Ctrl+V = paste
> Ctrl+X = cut
>
> Shift+left/rightarrow = highlights the text as the cursor moves one
> character to the left/right
>
> Ctrl+left/rightarrow = jumps one word to the left/right (or whatever the
> OS and RTE together regard as a "word", eg on my system, a hyphen is not
> a word breaker but an ampersand is... weird, hey).
>
> Ctrl+Shift+left/rightarrow = highlights one word at a time to the left
> or right of the initial position of the cursor (in some Microsoft and
> other programs, if the cursor was initially in the middle of a word,
> then that entire word is highlighted -- I hate that)
>
> End = cursor goes to end of line
> Home = cursor goes to beginning of line
>
> Shift+End = highlights everything up to the end of the line
> Shift+Home = highlights everything up to the beginning of the line
>
> Ctrl+End = goes to end of document
> Ctrl+Home = goes to beginning of document
>
> Ctrl+Shift+End = ... guess what it does!
> Ctrl+Shift+Home = ... guess what it does!  Very annoying if it happens
> on a very long document, though.
>
> Ctrl+A = highlights everything
>
> When holding down Shift, you can do all sorts of things using arrows,
> Home, End and the Ctrl button, and as long as you don't release Shift,
> the text will remain highlighted.  I often use Ctrl+leftarrow to get to
> the beginning of a word, then Ctrl+Shift+rightarrow to highlight the
> word, and if the space after the word was also highlighted, I use
> Shift+leftarrow to unselect that space while still highligting the word.
>   Takes practice, but it increases your typing speed tremendously.
>
> Samuel
>
>

Marc Prior het geskryf:

> I also have one mouse-click to place the cursor, a second mouse-click at the 
> same point to highlight the word, and a third to highlight the line (a fourth 
> should logically highlight the segment, but it doesn't). Is this a Linux/KDE 
> function, or do you Windows users also have it?

Depends on the program.  In some programs you have to single click the 
canvas to move the focus to it.  A single click puts the cursor at that 
point. A double click highlights the word closest the cursor.  A triple 
click highlights either the whole line or the whole paragraph, depending 
on the program.  A quad click will momentarily highlight the entire 
line/paragraph and then revert back to highlighting the entire word or 
no highlight at all, depending on the program.  In some programs, a 
single click in the margin will highlight the entire line.  In TB, which 
I'm using now, double clicking between words highlights both words.

Samuel

On 15 sept. 06, at 15:48, Marc Prior wrote:

> Thanks Samuel. JC, can you add these notes to the stuff you are  
> planning to
> add to the User Manual, or file them for future reference?

I was under the impression that you too had write access to the  
manual's wiki ;)

Just paste Samuel's note somewhere in the User Interface page, I'll  
sort it out later.

Please :)

Jean-Christophe Helary

Am Freitag 15 September 2006 09:09 schrieb Jean-Christophe Helary:
>
> I was under the impression that you too had write access to the
> manual's wiki ;)
>
> Just paste Samuel's note somewhere in the User Interface page, I'll
> sort it out later.
>
> Please :)

I had a hunch you would say that JC. :-(

OK - but it will take me a while, I'm seriously busy at the moment.

Marc

On 15 sept. 06, at 16:53, Marc Prior wrote:

> Am Freitag 15 September 2006 09:09 schrieb Jean-Christophe Helary:
>>
>> I was under the impression that you too had write access to the
>> manual's wiki ;)
>>
>> Just paste Samuel's note somewhere in the User Interface page, I'll
>> sort it out later.
>>
>> Please :)
>
> I had a hunch you would say that JC. :-(
>
> OK - but it will take me a while, I'm seriously busy at the moment.

I understand, it is mostly when people are super busy (like me right  
now) that the  feel the need to escape and reply to a few extra mails  
on the list.

But it really is a copy paste that's necessary, in fact Samuel could  
do that himself too ?

JC

Jean-Christophe Helary het geskryf:

> But it really is a copy paste that's necessary, in fact Samuel could  
> do that himself too ?

I have lost my ring finger in a horrible accident over the weekend and 
that is the finger I use for right-clicking and selecting "paste" from 
the menu, so I'm gonna have to pass on this one.  No, just kidding.

Samuel

Having felt like I've opened up a can of worms (and fingers!) on this one and created work for someone - thanks for all your input on this!   

  Louise 

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On 15 sept. 06, at 22:07, Louise Ambrosi wrote:

> Having felt like I've opened up a can of worms (and fingers!) on  
> this one and created work for someone - thanks for all your input  
> on this!

Louise,

You should not feel bad about anything. Take a look at the archives  
and you will _very clearly_ see that the 4 people who answered you  
just have itching fingers and are waiting for any question thrown at  
them to unleash their keyboards and leave only the question marks in  
the arena.

And when they don't have questions thrown at them, they invent them !  
No kidding...

You may be aware of the 80/20 rule. Here it is more the 1/99 rule: 1%  
of the members generate 99% of the traffic. But we need the 99% other  
members to give us new perspectives :)

Who would have thought about shortcuts here before you mentioned  
that ? Now, with a little work from Samuel, it is going to be an  
entry in the manual !

Thanks again ! (and welcome too).

Jean-Christophe

Dmitri Gabinski het geskryf:

> Well, Samuel, read those fine manuals ;-) Did you then know that 
> Shift+Ctrl+arrow (left or right) selects a word to respectively left or 
> right?

Yes of course I had known that one.  I would have been climbing up the 
walls if I hadn't :-)  Manuals?  What manuals?

Samuel

Fri, 15 Sep 2006 09:36:28 +0200, Samuel Murray <leuce@...> 
skribis:

> Manuals?  What manuals?

To programs, especially to Microsoft programs, especially to Microsoft 
Word :-)

Best regards,

Dmitri Gabinski

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