From: Chris M. <cj...@be...> - 2008-11-25 16:55:15
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Minor terminological point: is the 'is_' prefix necessary? The precedent in part_of etc is to leave it out. It's easy to add copula etc at the UI level, but harder to take them out On Nov 12, 2008, at 7:03 AM, Barry Smith wrote: > At 04:51 AM 11/11/2008, Cristian Cocos wrote: >> Barry Smith wrote: >>> I prefer >>> >>> has_bearer >> >> Is there anything wrong with role_of? (Or even is_role_of?) Would >> that not >> be the reciprocal to has_role? Isn't the has_role reciprocal what >> they are >> looking for? >> >> "analyte role_of some material_entity" >> >> I, so far, am having trouble seeing how has_bearer might be >> different from >> role_of. > > has_bearer is more general > we can define from has_bearer also more specific relations such as > > is_role_and_has_bearer > is_function_and_has_bearer > > These are, of course, ugly; and so it would be ideal if we could > avoid the need for them and just use 'has_bearer' throughout. > > >> At any rate, role_of is what we have in the ACGT MO as reciprocal to >> has_role. > > On the instance level, I assume. > BS > >> Frank Gibson wrote: >>> That is what I was thinking, is_realized_by is not in OBI would the >>> following be sensible? >>> >>> role is_realized_by process >>> process realizes role >> >> I guess both are definable in terms of "role_of/has_role" and >> "undergoes" >> ("participates_in"): >> >> role role_of continuant >> continuant undergoes process >> -------- >> role realized_by process >> >> Striving to define relations that apply *directly* to processes by >> circumventing the natural route (i.e. via continuants that >> undergo/participate in the respective processes) is, indeed, a >> feature that >> seems to be an OBI leitmotif. While I find this a little >> disconcerting, I >> have to admit that most of the times the focus might be more on >> processes >> that on continuants. I would, nevertheless, be happier if OBI were >> a tad >> less process-happy, and more accommodating of "continuants' >> rights" :-) >> >> CC > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win > great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in > the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Obi-relations mailing list > Obi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obi-relations > |