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From: <ls...@ab...> - 2009-06-24 14:34:28
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Hi all, > At any rate, looking forward to hearing/reading your proposal wrt > "has_specified_participant." PB has already put the definition which we discussed at f2f meeting: "a relation between a planned process and a continuant participating in that process. The presence of the participant is explicitly specified in the realizable information entity (objective specification or plan specification) which the process realizes the concretization of". The definition shows that it is a sub-relation of has_participant. The difference is that it participates in a planned process. A planned process means that there is specification. I would only remove "the realizable information entity" from the definition and keep "objective specification or plan specification". > I can't say I disagree with this proposal, although, frankly, it's not the > lack of issues that might throw the chat group into hiatus, but rather the > lack of time (or funding, which is the same). it is rather true:( Larisa > At any rate, looking forward to hearing/reading your proposal wrt > "has_specified_participant." > > Cheers, > > C > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ls...@ab... [mailto:ls...@ab...] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:34 >> To: obi...@li... >> Subject: [Obi-relations] calls >> >> Hi, >> >> because recently it was rather quite (relations-wise), there was a >> proposal at the f2f meeting in Cambridge: to have relations calls when >> it >> is required, when we have enough agenda items to discuss. Meanwhile, we >> can have discussions via this list. What do you think? >> >> We will need to define the relation has_specified_participant as the >> sub-relation of the RO relation has_participant. >> >> I will have a go and post a draft definition. >> >> Larisa >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------- >> Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge >> conference! >> Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of >> unconference: $250. >> Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebri >> dge.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Obi-relations mailing list >> Obi...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obi-relations > > |
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From: <ls...@ab...> - 2009-06-24 10:56:38
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> Hi, > OK. Just to make sure: you mean the relations has specified input/output information? Larisa > As per my workshop action item, I have now replaced references with the > above relations to the preferred has_specified_input/output for the > whole data transformation branch so I think we can make this obsolete. > > James > > -- > European Bioinformatics Institute, > Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, > Hinxton, > Cambridge, CB10 1SD, > United Kingdom > Tel: + 44 (0) 1223 494 676 > Fax: + 44 (0) 1223 492 468 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Obi-relations mailing list > Obi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obi-relations > |
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From: James M. <ma...@eb...> - 2009-06-24 09:46:42
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Hi, As per my workshop action item, I have now replaced references with the above relations to the preferred has_specified_input/output for the whole data transformation branch so I think we can make this obsolete. James -- European Bioinformatics Institute, Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, Hinxton, Cambridge, CB10 1SD, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1223 494 676 Fax: + 44 (0) 1223 492 468 |
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From: Cristian C. <cr...@ie...> - 2009-06-23 15:13:32
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Hi Larisa, hi all, I can't say I disagree with this proposal, although, frankly, it's not the lack of issues that might throw the chat group into hiatus, but rather the lack of time (or funding, which is the same). At any rate, looking forward to hearing/reading your proposal wrt "has_specified_participant." Cheers, C > -----Original Message----- > From: ls...@ab... [mailto:ls...@ab...] > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:34 > To: obi...@li... > Subject: [Obi-relations] calls > > Hi, > > because recently it was rather quite (relations-wise), there was a > proposal at the f2f meeting in Cambridge: to have relations calls when > it > is required, when we have enough agenda items to discuss. Meanwhile, we > can have discussions via this list. What do you think? > > We will need to define the relation has_specified_participant as the > sub-relation of the RO relation has_participant. > > I will have a go and post a draft definition. > > Larisa > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge > conference! > Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of > unconference: $250. > Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebri > dge.org > _______________________________________________ > Obi-relations mailing list > Obi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obi-relations |
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From: <ls...@ab...> - 2009-06-23 14:33:49
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Hi, because recently it was rather quite (relations-wise), there was a proposal at the f2f meeting in Cambridge: to have relations calls when it is required, when we have enough agenda items to discuss. Meanwhile, we can have discussions via this list. What do you think? We will need to define the relation has_specified_participant as the sub-relation of the RO relation has_participant. I will have a go and post a draft definition. Larisa |
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From: Larisa S. <ls...@ab...> - 2009-06-02 13:09:53
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Dear all, I have to send my apologies for not being able to make a call today. My close relatives had a car crush, all family is in hospital with serious injuries (but alive). Sorry, Larisa |
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From: Larisa S. <ls...@ab...> - 2009-05-26 10:58:13
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Hi all, I would like to propose to have a call next Tuesday on the 2nd of June closer to the OBI meeting (and it is hard for me to make it today). The main agenda item is to decide what to report about the branch at the OBI meeting. There is also a request to make calls one hour earlier, at 4pm GMT. Any objections? There were only 2 people participating the last two calls. It is true that it was a quiet period for the branch, but the things can change quickly. Please try to join us at the next call, even if only to express that you would like to be involved in the branch matters in future. Thank you, Larisa |
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From: Larisa S. <ls...@ab...> - 2009-05-12 13:00:01
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Hi, I remind that we have a skype call today. I will put the agenda items a bit later (sorry, I am having a very hard week). Larisa > > the minutes from the call > > attended: MC, AR, LS, FG (at the beginning) > > actions: > > - LS: update the relation branch section following to AR suggestions > (see google docs). Include the description and examples of the relations > if it is required by other sections of the manuscript (we cannot decide > it yet, wait till other sections are submitted, discuss it at the devel > call tomorrow). > > - Revise opened items. Frank has closed 6 items out of 13 ones. > > - AR will add examples for the relation is_concretization_of. > > - The relation results_from is deprecated as decided at Vancouver f2f > meeting, Feb.2009. Note: consider such entities (which are results from) > as specified_output of process > > - Check other opened items and discuss them at the next call > > > Please tell me what other tracker items we closed (has parameter feature)? > > Thank you > Larisa > > >>the proposed agenda for today's call: >> >>1. the relation branch section for the manuscript >>2. review the opened tracker items: we currently have 13 items open >>(http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?limit=100&func=&group_id=177891&atid=886178&assignee=&status=&category=&artgroup=&keyword=&submitter=&artifact_id=&limitz=100&assignee=&status=1&category=&artgroup=&submitter=&keyword=&artifact_id=&submit=Filter&limitz=100 >> >>the opened >> >>3. do we need a call on the 14th? Is it still Easter? [I shall be >>traveling from Scotland and can not make it in any case]. Or maybe on >>the 7th? >> >>Larisa >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>_______________________________________________ >>Obi-relations mailing list >>Obi...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obi-relations >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Obi-relations mailing list > Obi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obi-relations > |
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From: Larisa S. <ls...@ab...> - 2009-04-28 15:54:01
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Hi, my Skype name is larisa-sol. Please give me your names (who did not participate in the calls with me yet), and I will include you into the conference. Thank you Larisa |
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From: Larisa S. <ls...@ab...> - 2009-04-28 14:03:47
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Hi all, the agenda is available at wiki: http://obi-ontology.org/page/RB_28_04_2009 Larisa |
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From: Larisa S. <ls...@ab...> - 2009-04-27 15:13:06
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Hi all, we are to have a call tomorrow at the usual time 5 pm. GMT (actually it is now British summer time). Agenda: we need to review the opened tracker items: we still have 7 items. I hope many of you can make it tomorrow, Larisa |
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From: Larisa S. <ls...@ab...> - 2009-04-01 13:11:03
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Hi, I updated the section following (at least trying to) Alan's recommendations. Please have a look before I send it. The definitions and examples will need some work to do if they are going into the manuscript. Can someone write about bearer of, inheres relations please? Thanks Larisa > http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dhgmt5k6_2037s5f3kd2&invite=1798348937 > > BP asked such sections for the manuscript by the 1st of April (seriously). > > Please give your comments. We also can talk about this section tomorrow, > on the call. > > My skype name is larisa-sol. > > Larisa > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Obi-relations mailing list > Obi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obi-relations > |
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From: Larisa S. <ls...@ab...> - 2009-03-31 17:42:24
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Hi all, the minutes from the call attended: MC, AR, LS, FG (at the beginning) actions: - LS: update the relation branch section following to AR suggestions (see google docs). Include the description and examples of the relations if it is required by other sections of the manuscript (we cannot decide it yet, wait till other sections are submitted, discuss it at the devel call tomorrow). - Revise opened items. Frank has closed 6 items out of 13 ones. - AR will add examples for the relation is_concretization_of. - The relation results_from is deprecated as decided at Vancouver f2f meeting, Feb.2009. Note: consider such entities (which are results from) as specified_output of process - Check other opened items and discuss them at the next call Please tell me what other tracker items we closed (has parameter feature)? Thank you Larisa > > the proposed agenda for today's call: > > 1. the relation branch section for the manuscript > 2. review the opened tracker items: we currently have 13 items open > (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?limit=100&func=&group_id=177891&atid=886178&assignee=&status=&category=&artgroup=&keyword=&submitter=&artifact_id=&limitz=100&assignee=&status=1&category=&artgroup=&submitter=&keyword=&artifact_id=&submit=Filter&limitz=100 > > the opened > > 3. do we need a call on the 14th? Is it still Easter? [I shall be > traveling from Scotland and can not make it in any case]. Or maybe on > the 7th? > > Larisa > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Obi-relations mailing list > Obi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obi-relations > |
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From: Larisa S. <ls...@ab...> - 2009-03-31 15:01:29
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Hi all, the proposed agenda for today's call: 1. the relation branch section for the manuscript 2. review the opened tracker items: we currently have 13 items open (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?limit=100&func=&group_id=177891&atid=886178&assignee=&status=&category=&artgroup=&keyword=&submitter=&artifact_id=&limitz=100&assignee=&status=1&category=&artgroup=&submitter=&keyword=&artifact_id=&submit=Filter&limitz=100 the opened 3. do we need a call on the 14th? Is it still Easter? [I shall be traveling from Scotland and can not make it in any case]. Or maybe on the 7th? Larisa |
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From: Larisa S. <ls...@ab...> - 2009-03-30 16:46:19
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Hi all, I post this message for the relation branch into the devel list because the work on the relation branch has been suspended for a while, and some members already do not check obi-rel emails (but maybe I am wrong). Anyway, I would like to inform that the relations branch calls are resuming and we are to have a skype call tomorrow at 4pm GMT. Agenda for the call will be on wiki tomorrow. my skype name is larisa-sol Larisa |
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From: Larisa S. <ls...@ab...> - 2009-03-30 16:11:06
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Hi all, Frank, Melanie, and me had a go for the section describing relations. It is available at: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dhgmt5k6_2037s5f3kd2&invite=1798348937 BP asked such sections for the manuscript by the 1st of April (seriously). Please give your comments. We also can talk about this section tomorrow, on the call. My skype name is larisa-sol. Larisa |
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From: <ls...@ab...> - 2009-03-24 13:21:20
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Hi all, we had no branch leader for a month and our calls have been suspended. I will try to play this role, and I hope for your help. I propose to resume our calls using Skype next week on the 31st at usual time, and than - on the 2nd and 4th Tuesday as before. Please give me your contact information for the calls. Please suggest agenda items. Larisa |
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From: Larisa S. <ls...@ab...> - 2009-03-18 13:41:42
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Hi Melanie, I feel that I am not contributing enough to the OBI project. I can try to take care about the relation branch, as long as anyone else wishes to do that and if I can get technical support when necessary (I am going to have all sort of problems with updating files, but eventually I should be fine). Larisa > Hi all, > > As he mentioned earlier, Frank won't be able to take care anymore of > the relations branch. > > Is somebody interested in replacing him as branch leader? > I am already in charge of the biomaterial branch, so would rather > somebody else do it. > > Responsibilities of the branch leader include leading calls, taking > notes, posting reminders on mailing lists, and the occasional branch > presentation during the OBI workshops. > > Thanks, > Melanie > > > --- > Mélanie Courtot > TFL- BCCRC > 675 West 10th Avenue > Vancouver, BC > V5Z 1L3, Canada > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are > powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and > easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development > software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. > Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com > _______________________________________________ > Obi-relations mailing list > Obi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obi-relations > |
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From: Melanie C. <mco...@gm...> - 2009-03-17 23:49:39
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Hi all, As he mentioned earlier, Frank won't be able to take care anymore of the relations branch. Is somebody interested in replacing him as branch leader? I am already in charge of the biomaterial branch, so would rather somebody else do it. Responsibilities of the branch leader include leading calls, taking notes, posting reminders on mailing lists, and the occasional branch presentation during the OBI workshops. Thanks, Melanie --- Mélanie Courtot TFL- BCCRC 675 West 10th Avenue Vancouver, BC V5Z 1L3, Canada |
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From: Melanie C. <mco...@gm...> - 2009-02-17 02:46:13
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Hi all, I will be able to help with the calls if desired, but not before the 17th of March. I deleted this Tuesday's call (17th Feb) from the OBI calendar and will delete the following one (3rd of March) unless somebody volunteers in the meanwhile. Cheers, Melanie On 16-Feb-09, at 1:06 AM, Frank Gibson wrote: > Dear relations branch > > Unfortunately due to work commitments in my new position, I am unable > to commit to and lead the relations calls. I will endevour to attend > as many as possible, however in the interest of continuity the > position of relations branch leader is available for anyone that would > like to assume the role. Until someone is able to at least coordinate > the calls I would suggest that the calls should be suspended. > > Cheers > > Frank > > -- > Frank Gibson, PhD > http://peanutbutter.wordpress.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San > Francisco, CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the > Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source > participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source > code: SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > _______________________________________________ > Obi-relations mailing list > Obi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obi-relations --- Mélanie Courtot TFL- BCCRC 675 West 10th Avenue Vancouver, BC V5Z 1L3, Canada |
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From: Frank G. <fg...@gm...> - 2009-02-16 09:06:36
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Dear relations branch Unfortunately due to work commitments in my new position, I am unable to commit to and lead the relations calls. I will endevour to attend as many as possible, however in the interest of continuity the position of relations branch leader is available for anyone that would like to assume the role. Until someone is able to at least coordinate the calls I would suggest that the calls should be suspended. Cheers Frank -- Frank Gibson, PhD http://peanutbutter.wordpress.com/ |
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From: Alan R. <ala...@gm...> - 2009-02-09 18:04:41
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I think the easiest thing for now is to use the new relation everywhere. As discussion of the precise classes in IAO/OBI is not yet finished, I'd suggest that we introduce new relations *after* that, if it turns out we have to be more precise in what we say. -Alan 2009/2/9 James Malone <ma...@eb...>: > Hi Relations, > > I email with a request :) As a consequence of the OBI workshop, I have introduced the new information transformation class into OBI which has input and output ICE. I presently use has_specified_input/output_data for expressing this since this meets the domain and range but I guess this should now be renamed has_input/output_information_entity to meet the new needs. I'm happy if you feel the need to keep the more specialised has_specified_input/output_data relations too but if you could let me know which approach you prefer I can action it from our side as well. Thanks. > > James > > -- > European Bioinformatics Institute, > Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, > Hinxton, > Cambridge, CB10 1SD, > United Kingdom > Tel: + 44 (0) 1223 494 676 > Fax: + 44 (0) 1223 492 468 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) > software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and > Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com > _______________________________________________ > Obi-relations mailing list > Obi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obi-relations > > |
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From: James M. <ma...@eb...> - 2009-02-09 16:56:24
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Awesome ta. Frank Gibson wrote: > changed to information > > Frank > > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:37 PM, James Malone <ma...@eb...> wrote: > >> Hi Relations, >> >> I email with a request :) As a consequence of the OBI workshop, I have >> introduced the new information transformation class into OBI which has input >> and output ICE. I presently use has_specified_input/output_data for >> expressing this since this meets the domain and range but I guess this >> should now be renamed has_input/output_information_entity to meet the new >> needs. I'm happy if you feel the need to keep the more specialised >> has_specified_input/output_data relations too but if you could let me know >> which approach you prefer I can action it from our side as well. Thanks. >> >> James >> >> -- >> European Bioinformatics Institute, >> Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, >> Hinxton, >> Cambridge, CB10 1SD, >> United Kingdom >> Tel: + 44 (0) 1223 494 676 >> Fax: + 44 (0) 1223 492 468 >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with >> Adobe(R)AIR(TM) >> software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code >> to >> build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of >> local >> resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and >> Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com >> _______________________________________________ >> Obi-datatrfm-branch mailing list >> Obi...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obi-datatrfm-branch >> >> >> > > > > -- European Bioinformatics Institute, Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, Hinxton, Cambridge, CB10 1SD, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1223 494 676 Fax: + 44 (0) 1223 492 468 |
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From: Frank G. <fg...@gm...> - 2009-02-09 16:54:40
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changed to information Frank On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:37 PM, James Malone <ma...@eb...> wrote: > Hi Relations, > > I email with a request :) As a consequence of the OBI workshop, I have > introduced the new information transformation class into OBI which has input > and output ICE. I presently use has_specified_input/output_data for > expressing this since this meets the domain and range but I guess this > should now be renamed has_input/output_information_entity to meet the new > needs. I'm happy if you feel the need to keep the more specialised > has_specified_input/output_data relations too but if you could let me know > which approach you prefer I can action it from our side as well. Thanks. > > James > > -- > European Bioinformatics Institute, > Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, > Hinxton, > Cambridge, CB10 1SD, > United Kingdom > Tel: + 44 (0) 1223 494 676 > Fax: + 44 (0) 1223 492 468 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with > Adobe(R)AIR(TM) > software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code > to > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of > local > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and > Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com > _______________________________________________ > Obi-datatrfm-branch mailing list > Obi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/obi-datatrfm-branch > > -- Frank Gibson, PhD http://peanutbutter.wordpress.com/ |
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From: James M. <ma...@eb...> - 2009-02-09 14:37:14
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Hi Relations, I email with a request :) As a consequence of the OBI workshop, I have introduced the new information transformation class into OBI which has input and output ICE. I presently use has_specified_input/output_data for expressing this since this meets the domain and range but I guess this should now be renamed has_input/output_*information_entity *to meet the new needs. I'm happy if you feel the need to keep the more specialised has_specified_input/output_data relations too but if you could let me know which approach you prefer I can action it from our side as well. Thanks. James -- European Bioinformatics Institute, Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, Hinxton, Cambridge, CB10 1SD, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1223 494 676 Fax: + 44 (0) 1223 492 468 |
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