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Re: [Nubus-pmac-users] Powerbook 1400 with 466MHz Sonnet Crescendo G3
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From: Thomas C. <tca...@sh...> - 2009-10-09 14:57:12
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I have been fiddling with my PowerBook 1400 over the past month trying to install Debian Sarge. I have come to the conclusion that the 2.4.32 kernel with the Debian Sarge installer doesn't like my Sonnet Crescendo 466MHz G3 upgrade card. When I remove the card and replace it with the original 166MHz PPC 603 processor everything works fine. The Debian installer even recognizes and initializes my Orinoco Gold wireless PC card. Woo, hoo! Put the G3 card back in... the boot process always hangs at MMU:setio. Seems to me that back in the early 2000s when I was trying to install Nubus Linux on a G3-upgraded Powermac 6100 I had to do something with ResEdit to make the MAXpowr (it was a Newertech G3 upgrade card) extension load before the MkLinux extension. I think it had to do with enabling the kernel to recognize the L1 and secondary cashes on the card. Do any of you "old timers" remember something like that? Or, is there some mach_option that would do the same thing? Cheers, Tom On Sep 11, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Tobias Netzel wrote: > Although they aren't designated to include the Debian installer those > miboot ISO images do include the Sarge installer. > You might as well download the plain miboot.image file and replace > the one on your HFS partition (folder "Linux Kernels) with the > downloaded one. > The Sarge installer is included in the file ramdisk.sarge.gz and > independent of the miboot.image files which contain the kernel. > > 128 MB of swap might not be enough if you plan to run X11 > applications. Nevertheless running applications that need more than > the amount of physical RAM will result in an unusable system because > of constant paging. So it might as well be justified to limit the > amount of virtual memory to double the amount of physical RAM. I > don't know what would be best but I always used a swap partition of > at least 512 MB. That's somewhat exaggerated but just to be sure > there never is insufficient virtual memory. > > I myself have been using an Orinoco Silver card in my PB1400 and it > should work quite well. I don't remember if the driver is compiled > into the kernel of if it has to be loaded as module. > > Cheers, > Tobias > >> Thanks for your response. I had been using the miBoot image, Linux >> kernel 2.4.27 (incl. Debian Sarge installer) as I needed to first of >> all set up the A/UX root and swap partitions created under Mac OS >> 9.1. Is there a 2.4.32 miBoot image that includes the Debian Sarge >> installer? I'm not seeing it among the files available on >> Sourceforge/ >> nubus-pmac offerings. >> >> I use an Orinoco wireless PC card as my primary network connection >> under Mac OS. Hope this will work with Debian too. Everything else >> about the machine is how you summised: 64 MB of RAM, 10 GIG hard >> drive partitioned to include a 256 MB HFS partition, 9152 MB root, >> and >> 128MB swap, colors set to 256. >> >> Yes, I would be willing to help with testing new kernels. I don't >> know much about linux but want to learn. I'm a retired teacher so I >> have some time on my hands. >> >> Cheers, Tom >> >> On Sep 10, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Tobias Netzel wrote: >> >>> Hi Tom, >>> >>> did you try to use the miboot ISO image from 28 Nov 2006 that >>> contain >>> kernel version 2.4.32? >>> There have been some important changes in PowerBook support since >>> 2.4.27. >>> There is either the complete ISO image: >>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/nubus-pmac/files/bootable%20miBoot% >>> 20ISOs/Linux%202.4.32/miboot_28NOV2006.iso/download >>> or the miboot kernel image for replacing the old one: >>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/nubus-pmac/files/miBoot%20kernels/ >>> Linux%202.4.32/miboot.image_28NOV2006/download >>> >>> If you get problems with sudden shutdowns try removing the PCMCIA >>> cards if you've got any inserted. Or even the media-bay modules >>> but I >>> don't know of any problems related to the media-bay. Also I don't >>> know if any internal expansion cards like network or external video >>> adapter could cause problems during early bootup. >>> You might get problems in booting the installer if you've got >>> installed less than 24 MB of RAM - but if you've got the Sonnet card >>> installed I suppose you've got the maximum of 64 MB installed. >>> >>> I myself also occasionally got hangups at "MMU:exit" but I never >>> investigated what's the reason. You might try changing the coulor >>> depth in MacOS. The best choice for speed is 256. >>> >>> Would you volunteer to try some 2.6.30 test kernels and report the >>> results? Currently they cannot be used to boot yet but some drivers >>> are already sort of working. >>> >>> Tobias >>> >>>> I have been trying to install Debian Sarge on this machine using >>>> the >>>> miBoot Image, 2.4.27 that includes the Debian Sarge installer. >>>> I've >>>> copied the boot image to a small boot HFS boot partition. When >>>> trying >>>> to boot into the installer, though, it always hangs at: >>>> >>>> MMU:exit >>>> >>>> Is this kernel incompatible with the Sonnet G3 card or am I doing >>>> something wrong? >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>> -------- >>>> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports >>>> 2008 30-Day >>>> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - >>>> and focus on >>>> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with >>>> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nubus-pmac-users mailing list >>>> Nub...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nubus-pmac-users >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> --------- >>> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 >>> 30-Day >>> trial. 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