Re: [Mingw-users] mShell: mSys spawning system

[Keith M. <kei...@to...>]

Chris Sutcliffe wrote:
> Where I'm going with rxvt is that it, in my opinion, is
> superior to a win32 console window in that it provides an
> easier to use interface in terms of resizing and copying
> and pasting.

Ok.  I agree that rxvt looks nicer, and resizes more easily;
it also scrolls faster than the Win32 console.  However, for
me it's pty problems make it quite unusable, most of the time.

The resize capability is, again a *very* minor issue; I just
set the Win32 console properties, (once), to 142c x 57r, which
just about fills my screen, tweak the colours to my preference,
and save for all windows with given name.  Thereafter, I work
with the console window filling the screen, and minimise it,
if I need to move it out of the way.

Regarding copy and paste operations, well I really can't see
what all the fuss is about;  there is virtually no difference
in behaviour between rxvt and Win32 console -- one extra mouse
click, to perform a copy in Win32 console, and it uses the
right button rather than the middle one, but so what?

> So perhaps a better explanation would be that it would be nice
> if mShell could provide both a console and graphical terminal,
> leaving it up to the user which type of terminal they would
> like to run.

Nope.  Can't agree with that.  Neither rxvt nor Win32 console
is a graphical terminal in any case;  both are *text* consoles.
Compared to KDE's Konsole, both are frankly, well "crap".  It
seems that Julien's aim is to provide a Konsole-like interface,
to replace the Win32 console interface he's using at present;
if he can achieve that, providing the best of rxvt's features,
with the stability of operation that I currently have to turn
to Win32 console to achieve, and do it in a single term type,
then he will have succeeded in providing a viable alternative
to both, without offering confusing choices.

Just my 2p.

Regards,
Keith.