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From: Jeffrey S. <jef...@gm...> - 2013-07-30 20:21:02
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Michael,
Thanks that is very informative. Answers most of the problems I was having
and read MEP14 which looks really useful
That being said does the ps backend subset the fonts or use collections for
drawing (is the collections feature global or just in the pdf backend)? I
usually use .eps output and convert to pdf using epstopdf unless the figure
has an alpha channel because always results in a much smaller file (60kB
roughly for this file or plain figure around 10kB) than direct pdf output
with the output looking the same. I pretty much always have usetex=True so
maybe the pdf file is always embedding the full fonts.
Also, does the Cairo backend support usetex=True or subsetting? I know I
had read it did not support usetex but that was maybe 2 years ago or so.
The x,y,z axis look correct with cairo but the IPA Fonts don't render
properly. The legend font says it is size 12 but if you zoom in extremely
close you can see they are the correct fonts just way to small. The file
size is around 60kB as well so I am guessing it supports subsetting of
fonts.
The pgf backend would also subset fonts if output to .pdf I'm assuming
because that is the default with pdftex? It results in similar size files
to the .eps output for this file (roughly 60kB also).
The IPA font uses the package (\usepackage{tipa}) and therefore that is why
I think these look differently. That package draws these fonts with its'
font libraries instead of whatever is selected as the text font. Maybe I'm
wrong about this but that is my understanding because even in normal latex
code the fonts look different than the standard text.
Cheers,
Jeff
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:43 AM, Michael Droettboom <md...@st...> wrote:
> There are two different things going on here.
>
> Between 1.2.1 and now, there was a bugfix to the font selection routine
> that inadvertently introduced a bug selecting fonts in the usetex backend.
> You may notice that on master, the IPA font selected is different. The
> file size difference can be attributed to the slightly larger font size of
> the one it selected vs. the one it should have. Note that when usetex is
> True, the fonts are not subsetted, so you always get the full font embedded
> in the file (MEP14 work will fix this in the future).
>
> See b5c340 for the bug that introduced the commit, and
> https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/2260 for the fix (which
> should make it into 1.3.0 final).
>
> Between 1.1.1 and 1.2.1 a change was made in how collections are handled.
> Previously, each path was redrawn individually. In 1.2, if a path is
> reused multiple times, a "stamp" is created and then it is "used" multiple
> times. In principle, this generally reduces file sizes by a large amount.
> However, in the case of this figure with the 3D spheres, each path is used
> only once, so rather than getting the file size savings of that approach,
> we only get the overhead. The backend could be smarter by not doing this
> when the path is only used a small number of times. Such a fix would be
> welcome, but is probably too large/risky to try to get into the current
> release cycle. It will have to wait for 1.3.1
>
> Cheers,
> Mike
>
>
>
> On 07/30/2013 12:24 PM, Jeffrey Spencer wrote:
>
> K, I have just made the script self-contained but it loads external data
> so I have attached that as well. If you want me to just separate out the
> plotting commands let me know. I have also attached my matplotlib rc file
> which is the same on all three systems. All the modifications to the
> matplotlibrc file are copied to the top and in the first 30 lines or so.
>
> Of note, the smallest file sizes for pdf are using the pgf backend
> around 60kb. Not sure if that helps at all. It is also around the same size
> if I export to .eps and then convert to pdf. About 60kb. The problem with
> eps in these 3d figures though is the back wall I think has an alpha
> channel because just becomes a solid wall in the output. No lines through
> it like the other two walls.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Jouni K. Seppänen <jk...@ik...> wrote:
>
>> Jeffrey Spencer <jef...@gm...> writes:
>>
>> > I have three different versions of matplotlib that all output different
>> > file sizes with matplotlib 1.1.1 providing the smallest. This is for the
>> > same exact script. I can post the script if that helps.
>> >
>> > MPL 1.4.x: 539.32kb, Ubuntu 12.10
>> > MPL 1.1.1: 172.56kb Ubuntu 12.10
>> > MPL 1.2.1: 475.9kb, Ubuntu 13.04
>>
>> Yes, it would be interesting to know what the plotting commands are.
>> Just as a guess, since all the sizes are a few hundred kilobytes, it
>> could be a difference in e.g. font embedding - many TrueType fonts are
>> of comparable size.
>>
>> --
>> Jouni K. Seppänen
>> http://www.iki.fi/jks
>>
>>
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