mac-emacs-users

Re: [Mac-emacs-users] Emacs.app

[Andrew C. <ak...@cs...>]

> i have got the carbon version of emacs21 to run. But the german
> umlauts (for example an u with two dots on top) are displayed as a
> rectangle. When I display the "HELLO" file (C-h h), in the line
> "German (Deutsch Süd)" the right part of the line is "GrXX Gott"
> where X is an empty rectangle.
> 
> Does anyone know how to display the "special characters"?

Hi Patrick,

Actually it should display them by default.  Could you use M-x
describe-font and M-x describe-fontset to check which font or fontset
you're using for display.  There is plenty of documentation on
international characters in the on-line manual.  Also, please try
typing

  M-x set-frame-font RET fontset-mac RET

or

  M-x set-frame-font RET -apple-monaco-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-m-120-mac-roman

and see if that works.

Andrew.

[Mac-emacs-users] Emacs.app

[Patrick G. <gun...@ir...>]

Hello,

i have got the carbon version of emacs21 to run. But the german 
umlauts (for example an u with two dots on top) are displayed as 
a rectangle. When I display the "HELLO" file (C-h h), in the 
line "German (Deutsch Süd)" the right part of the line is 
"GrXX Gott" where X is an empty rectangle. 

Does anyone know how to display the "special characters"?



Viele Grüße,

  Patrick Gundlach

Re: [Mac-emacs-users] (no subject)

[Andrew C. <ak...@cs...>]

> I have to things I would like to change:
> 
> 1) the mac-file-name-to-posix and posix-file-name-to-mac don't seem to
> be aware of volumes and mounting
> (posix-file-name-to-mac "/Users/immanuel/workspace") 
> -> "Users:immanuel:workspace" and should be 
> 'Macintosh HD:Users:immanuel:workspace"
> (mac-file-name-to-posix "Macintosh HD:Users:immanuel:workspace")
> -> "/Macintosh HD/Users/immanuel/workspace" and should be
> "/Users/immanuel/workspace
> I have some code that does this, and I could send you a patch this
> weekend that does this. Do you have any problems with this?

Thanks.  That will be very nice.
 
> 2) I would like to have emacs be aware of apple events, so that I can
>    use it as an extension editor for codewarrior. I will not have time
>    to program this for another two weeks, but would you consider
>    adding this to emacs?

I am currently trying to get C-g to work correctly, which I consider
important.  There are a few other things I'd like to work on after
that so I probably won't get to Apple Events any time soon.  Please
feel free to work on them.

Andrew.

Re: [Mac-emacs-users] (no subject)

[Andrew C. <ak...@cs...>]

>    I have worked out a more permanent solution.  I shall soon be
>    incorporating the Mac OS X code into the Emacs CVS repository and
>    this fix will of course be included.  Until then, please try
>    patching src/process.c and src/s/darwin.h with the following.
> 
> I have applied your patch and tried it out but I'm sorry to have to
> tell you that the compile buffer still misses output. I seems the
> last few lines are not put in that buffer and if you run compile
> again it quickly scrolls last lines from the previous compile before
> restarting.

It has been working very well for me.  I have checked again and those
two small changes are the only places that the patch needs to change.

Can other users build with the patch and share their experience
please?

Re: [Mac-emacs-users] (no subject)

[Immanuel L. <imm...@en...>]

   > Here is a hack that allows me to compile and grep on the Carbonized
   > emacs on MacOSX. Put this in your .emacs.el file
   >
   > [...]

   Hi Immanuel,

   I have worked out a more permanent solution.  I shall soon be
   incorporating the Mac OS X code into the Emacs CVS repository and this
   fix will of course be included.  Until then, please try patching
   src/process.c and src/s/darwin.h with the following.

I have applied your patch and tried it out but I'm sorry to have to
tell you that the compile buffer still misses output. I seems the last
few lines are not put in that buffer and if you run compile again it
quickly scrolls last lines from the previous compile before restarting.
Immanuel

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Re: [Mac-emacs-users] (no subject)

[Immanuel L. <imm...@en...>]

   From: Andrew Choi <ak...@cs...>
   CC: mac...@li...
   Reply-to: ak...@cs...
   Sender: mac...@li...
   X-Original-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:55:56 +0800 (HKT)
   Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:55:56 +0800 (HKT)

   > Here is a hack that allows me to compile and grep on the Carbonized
   > emacs on MacOSX. Put this in your .emacs.el file
   >
   > [...]

I have to things I would like to change:

1) the mac-file-name-to-posix and posix-file-name-to-mac don't seem to
be aware of volumes and mounting
(posix-file-name-to-mac "/Users/immanuel/workspace") 
-> "Users:immanuel:workspace" and should be 
'Macintosh HD:Users:immanuel:workspace"
(mac-file-name-to-posix "Macintosh HD:Users:immanuel:workspace")
-> "/Macintosh HD/Users/immanuel/workspace" and should be
"/Users/immanuel/workspace
I have some code that does this, and I could send you a patch this
weekend that does this. Do you have any problems with this?

2) I would like to have emacs be aware of apple events, so that I can
   use it as an extension editor for codewarrior. I will not have time
   to program this for another two weeks, but would you consider
   adding this to emacs?
thanks for the patch and keep up the good work :-)
Immanuel


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Re: [Mac-emacs-users] (no subject)

[Andrew C. <ak...@cs...>]

> Here is a hack that allows me to compile and grep on the Carbonized
> emacs on MacOSX. Put this in your .emacs.el file
>
> [...]

Hi Immanuel,

I have worked out a more permanent solution.  I shall soon be
incorporating the Mac OS X code into the Emacs CVS repository and this
fix will of course be included.  Until then, please try patching
src/process.c and src/s/darwin.h with the following.

--- emacs-21.1/src/process.c	Tue Sep 25 16:21:22 2001
+++ emacs/src/process.c	Tue Dec  4 09:03:31 2001
@@ -2512,6 +2512,14 @@
       if (update_tick != process_tick && do_display)
 	{
 	  Atemp = input_wait_mask;
+#ifdef MAC_OSX
+	  /* On Mac OS X, the SELECT system call always says input is
+	     present (for reading) at stdin, even when none is.  This
+	     causes the the call to SELECT below to return 1 and
+	     status_notify not to be called.  As a result output of
+	     subprocesses are incorrectly discarded.  */
+	  FD_CLR (0, &Atemp);
+#endif
 	  EMACS_SET_SECS_USECS (timeout, 0, 0);
 	  if ((select (max (max_process_desc, max_keyboard_desc) + 1,
 		       &Atemp, (SELECT_TYPE *)0, (SELECT_TYPE *)0,

--- emacs-21.1.30/src/s/darwin.h	Sat Jun 30 23:21:19 2001
+++ emacs/src/s/darwin.h	Wed Dec  5 12:06:47 2001
@@ -76,7 +76,7 @@
    to read the input and send it to the true Emacs process
    through a pipe. */
 
-#define INTERRUPT_INPUT 1
+#define INTERRUPT_INPUT
 
 /* Letter to use in finding device name of first pty,
   if system supports pty's.  'a' means it is /dev/ptya0  */
@@ -103,7 +103,7 @@
  *	Define HAVE_PTYS if the system supports pty devices.
  */
 
-#define HAVE_PTYS
+/* #define HAVE_PTYS */
 
 /*
  *	Define NONSYSTEM_DIR_LIBRARY to make Emacs emulate

Andrew.

[Mac-emacs-users] Launching an app from command line

[Jason U. <ja...@un...>]

This doesn't tell how to specify any command line arguments to it though. I
looked in the package to see if there was anything in there that might be
tweakable to pass command line arguments with, but I didn't see anything
obvious.


>To: ma...@ya...
>From: Steve Dekorte <st...@de...>
>Mailing-List: list ma...@ya...; contact
mac...@ya...
>Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:31:37 -0800
>Subject: Re: [mac-OSX] Launching an app from command line
>
>
>On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 07:48  PM, Jason Untulis wrote:
>> Anyone know how to launch a normal OS X application from the command
>> line?
>
>% man open
>
>OPEN(1)                     System Reference Manual
>OPEN(1)
>
>NAME
>      open - open files and directories
>
>SYNOPSIS
>      open [-a application] file ...
>
>      open [-e] file ...
>
>DESCRIPTION
>      The open command opens a file (or a directory), just as if you had
>dou-
>      ble-clicked the file's icon. If no application name is specified,
>the de-
>      fault application as determined via Finder is used to open the
>specified
>      files.
>...

[Mac-emacs-users] Emacs in X files not readable by MCL

[Gilbert H. <ha...@Pr...>]

How can files edited in the mac gnu emacs in system X be read by Digitool's
MacIntosh Common Lisp?  (Emacs  version 20.1.30.1 Andrew Chou's port; MCL
version 4.3.1)  Whenever I edit a lisp file using emacs, MCL no longer
recognizes it.  (Even if I set the emacs buffer file coding to be "Mac".)
My current workaround after using emacs is to use alpha to read the file and
then to use save-as in alpha to resave it.  Then MCL can find it.

 Gil

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Re: [Mac-emacs-users] listing fonts

[Andrew C. <ak...@cs...>]

Mitchell L Model <ml...@ac...> writes:

> >The Mac OS section of on-line help has some information on font names.
> 
> I couldn't figure out what you meant here or by the comment at the
> end of the README that said the ftp.gnu.org site had more
> information about running Emacs on a Mac.  Could we have some
> specific URL's or instructions for finding the information about
> font names and about running Emacs on a Mac?  Thanks.  --

In Emacs, type:

  C-h i g (emacs) Mac OS RET

Note that the SPC between Mac and OS must be typed.

Re: [Mac-emacs-users] Postscript type 1 font sizes

[Andrew C. <ak...@cs...>]

Mitchell L Model <ml...@ac...> writes:

> The X Window System name for some kinds of fonts has a 0 for font
> size.  For instance if I do:
> 
> (add-to-list
>   'default-frame-alist
>   '(font . "-apple-american typewriter-*-12-*-mac-roman")
>   )
> 
> it can't find the font.  However, if I do:
> 
> (add-to-list
>   'default-frame-alist
>   '(font . "-apple-american typewriter-*-mac-roman")
>   )
> 
> it does find the font.  How do I set the font size in that case?

How about -apple-american typewriter-medium-r-*--*-120-*-*-*-*-mac-roman?

Re: [Mac-emacs-users] listing fonts

[Mitchell L M. <ml...@ac...>]

At 12:53 PM +0800 11/22/01, Andrew Choi wrote:

>...
>The Mac OS section of on-line help has some information on font names.
...

I couldn't figure out what you meant here or by the comment at the 
end of the README that said the ftp.gnu.org site had more information 
about running Emacs on a Mac.  Could we have some specific URL's or 
instructions for finding the information about font names and about 
running Emacs on a Mac?  Thanks.
-- 

     --- Mitchell

[Mac-emacs-users] Postscript type 1 font sizes

[Mitchell L M. <ml...@ac...>]

The X Window System name for some kinds of fonts has a 0 for font 
size.  For instance if I do:

(add-to-list
  'default-frame-alist
  '(font . "-apple-american typewriter-*-12-*-mac-roman")
  )

it can't find the font.  However, if I do:

(add-to-list
  'default-frame-alist
  '(font . "-apple-american typewriter-*-mac-roman")
  )

it does find the font.  How do I set the font size in that case?
-- 

     --- Mitchell

[Mac-emacs-users] Re: Mac-emacs-users digest, Vol 1 #46 - 4 msgs

[Jean R. <je...@uc...>]

Hi,

The Fink project (Open source at sourceforge.net : 
<http://fink.sourceforge.net/index.php>) includes a compiled version 
of GNU Emacs 20.7.1; it runs under MacOS X on machines having more 
that 256 MB.

Jean

Re: [Mac-emacs-users] listing fonts

[Andrew C. <ak...@cs...>]

Mitchell L Model <ml...@ac...> writes:

> On Nov 14 you posted a message to the lsit showing how to set fonts
> using modify-frame-parameters and default-frame-alist.  How do you
> get a list of fonts?  (Really, my question is: "how can I easily
> figure out the right X Window System font name for a font on my
> system, e.g. Andale Mono?"  I know a fair amount about the format,
> but always seem to get some detail wrong and just want to see a list
> of choices.)  --

Hi Mitchell,

The Mac OS section of on-line help has some information on font names.

Also the function x-list-fonts should work as expected.  E.g.,

  (x-list-fonts "*Andale Mono*")

should show you the name you need to use.  Also,

  (x-list-fonts "*-10-*-mac-roman")

should list the names of all 10-point Mac Roman fonts.

Andrew.

[Mac-emacs-users] listing fonts

[Mitchell L M. <ml...@ac...>]

On Nov 14 you posted a message to the lsit showing how to set fonts 
using modify-frame-parameters and default-frame-alist.  How do you 
get a list of fonts?  (Really, my question is: "how can I easily 
figure out the right X Window System font name for a font on my 
system, e.g. Andale Mono?"  I know a fair amount about the format, 
but always seem to get some detail wrong and just want to see a list 
of choices.)
-- 

     --- Mitchell

Re: [Mac-emacs-users] (no subject)

[Immanuel L. <imm...@en...>]

>   I guess that means compile and grep works if they use call-process
>   instead of start-process.  
Correct
>   I think (I'm guessing) the latter doesn't
>   work because SIGCHLD is not properly getting back to Emacs.  I'll take
>   a look at this problem when I can.
Cool. I might also be solving some problems in the future.
Immanuel


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[Mac-emacs-users] Re: Building Emacs 21.1 on OS X -- a VERY STUPID question

[Andrew C. <ak...@cs...>]

Hi Gottfried,

How have you been?  Good to hear from you again!

Sorry this was not mentioned in the readme.txt file.  To build Emacs
on Mac OS X, you'll need to have installed the Developer Tools.

That software probably didn't come with an iBook.  You can download
these tools from connect.apple.com.  Registration is required but is
free of charge.

I think it was mentioned somewhere that the 10.0 and 10.1 Developer
Tools are different, and you can only use them with their respective
Mac OS X versions.  So please make sure you get the right one.

Regarding the setting for StuffIt Expander, if you use it to untar the
Emacs 21.1 distribution, you *do* need to set the automatically
convert newlines option to `Never'.  If you don't you'll encounter a
problem later when Emacs starts up.  Alternatively you can use `tar
zxf' and not worry about StuffIt Expander settings.

Let me know if you need more assistance in building Emacs.

Andrew.

Re: [Mac-emacs-users] (no subject)

[Andrew C. <ak...@cs...>]

Immanuel Litzroth <imm...@en...> writes:

> Here is a hack that allows me to compile and grep on the Carbonized
> emacs on MacOSX. Put this in your .emacs.el file

Hi Immanuel,

Thank you.  That's very nice to have.

I guess that means compile and grep works if they use call-process
instead of start-process.  I think (I'm guessing) the latter doesn't
work because SIGCHLD is not properly getting back to Emacs.  I'll take
a look at this problem when I can.

Andrew.

[Mac-emacs-users] PS to: Building Emacs 21.1 on OS X -- a VERY STUPID question

[Gottfried B. <Got...@un...>]

Dear Andrew, 

here is a brief PS to my previous message: Looking again at your page at
http://mac-emacs.sourceforge.net/, I just noticed the "IMPORTANT" note
that I had not read (I did not come that far) before trying to build the
OS X version. Does this note -- turning text file conversion OFF -- also
apply to StuffIt Expander running on OS X? If so, it would certainly be
helpful to have this warning also on your README file in 

http://www.cse.cuhk.edu.hk/~akochoi/emacs/macosx/readme.txt

By the way, I just looked in the preferences file and found that "Never"
was turned on as default, so there should be no problem for me.

Just in case it is of any importance: According to the "Start volume
chooser" in OS 9.1, the OS 10.0.4 in my iBook is built 4Q12. (Where can I
get such an information within OS X?)

Best regards, 

Gottfried Barthel 

[Mac-emacs-users] Building Emacs 21.1 on OS X -- a VERY STUPID question

[Gottfried B. <Got...@un...>]

Hello Andrew, 

thank you for your continuous efforts of porting Emacs to the Mac. I am
very glad to hear that the Mac version is now part of the standard Emacs 
distribution. 

Having Mac OS X (a preinstalled 10.0.4 on a 2nd generation iBook) at my
disposal, I just tried to build Emacs 21 following your suggestions in the
README file at http://www.cse.cuhk.edu.hk/~akochoi/emacs/macosx/readme.txt

The first three steps worked out perfectly well, but when I tried to run
the "./configure"-command, I got the following messages

  checking host system type... powerpc-apple-darwin1.3.7
  checking for gcc... no  
  checking for cc... no
  configure:error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH

If I understand the last message correctly, I am thus lacking the compiler
-- indeed a VERY STUPID situation that certainly is hardly conceivable for
a software developer like you. However, since there are dummies like me
trying to do such things as building Emacs on OS X, could you please give
some hints telling what exactly is needed to build Emacs 21 in Mac OS X
that does not automatically come with the pre-installed system? 

Thank you very much! Best regards, 

Gottfried Barthel 

[Mac-emacs-users] Typo in previous code

[Immanuel L. <imm...@en...>]

There was a typo in the previous code which was due to rearanging the
code just before sending it. You'd think one would have learned not to
do such things. Anyway here is the new code

;;Begin Code
(progn
  (load "compile")
    (fset 'old-compile
	  (symbol-function 'compile)))

(defun compile ()
  (interactive)
  (let ((old-start-process (symbol-function 'start-process)))
    (unwind-protect 
	(progn
	  (fmakunbound 'start-proces)
	  (call-interactively 'old-compile))
      (fset 'start-process old-start-process))))

;;End Code
if anyone has comments ...
Immanuel

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[Mac-emacs-users] (no subject)

[Immanuel L. <imm...@en...>]

Here is a hack that allows me to compile and grep on the Carbonized
emacs on MacOSX. Put this in your .emacs.el file 

;; Code begins here
(progn
  (load "compile")
  (fset 'old-compile
	(symbol-function 'compile)))

(defun compile ()
  (interactive)
  (let ((old-start-process (symbol-function 'start-process)))
    (unwind-protect 
        (fmakunbound 'start-process)	
	(call-interactively 'old-compile)
      (fset 'start-process old-start-process))))
;;Code ends here
I appreciate comments
Immanuel
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[Mac-emacs-users] mac-emacs, was: Tramp in Emacs 21?

[Tom R. <Tom...@nc...>]

Tom Roche <Tom...@nc...> Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:39:23 -0500
>> I would like to see emacs become "the multiplatform editor" not
>> only because it runs on so many platforms (which it does now--FWIW
>> IIRC the mac-emacs folks had 21 binaries up before the win32
>> folks),

Eli Zaretskii <el...@is...> Wed, 14 Nov 2001 14:58:22 +0200
> as for the fact that the Mac port was available before the Windows
> one: it's simply because of administrative problems that prevented
> the person who compiled the Windows binaries from having write
> access to the appropriate directory. There's no real problem here,
> and nothing to talk about.

I didn't mean to imply that there was a problem; I meant merely to
"give props" to Andrew Choi and whoever else works on mac-emacs.
Unfortunately IMHO emacs folks tend not to think of the mac as an
"emacs-capable" platform, and mac folks (at least the ones I know)
tend not to be aware of emacs, or gnu tools generally. (or cmdline
anything :-)

broadening horizons? or failing ?-) Tom...@nc...

Re: [Mac-emacs-users] How to I change to a smaller font?

[Andrew C. <ak...@cs...>]

Preston Jackson <pja...@ee...> writes:

> I love the OS X port of emacs. It is beautiful. Thanks for getting the
> alpha version out so quickly.
> 
> I would like to change the font size to something a little
> smaller. The Shift-Mouse-1 doesn't work and neither does the command
> when executed directly from the mini-buffer. Is there a way do do
> change this parameter?

Hi Preston,

Thanks.  Glad you enjoy using it.

I will fix the problem with the use of modifier keys with the mouse
button and popup menus when I can.

Meanwhile, to change the font for an existing frame, execute the
following by typing M-:

  (modify-frame-parameters
    (selected-frame)
    '((font . "-apple-monaco-*-12-*-mac-roman")))

To make the change permanent, put the following line in your ~/.emacs
file (create it if you don't already have one):

  (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist
               '(font . "-apple-monaco-*-12-*-mac-roman"))

Andrew.