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Re: [Logicmail-users] LogicMail 1.9.1.213

[Peter P. <plp...@ya...>]

Ok, I got the problem. Weird, but it screwed up other clients too. Alpine is one of the few which handle it right. I think that one has to implement the \r\n line termination detection required by RFCs, and not rely on \n alone in headers. Although that IS weird nowadays. Strange godaddy are not exactly script kiddies. Maybe it's a temporary bug introduced by an update, but I do not believe to be the only one to have noticed it.

Thanks for answering, looking forward to a solution.

-- Peter

--- On Fri, 10/15/10, Derek Konigsberg <dko...@lo...> wrote:
Yes, and testing now.  It looks like you have a very weird POP
    server.  I'll mention details here, in case anyone else is curious.

    

    With a normal POP server, the login sequence is like such:

    ----

    +OK <12...@fo...> mail.foo.com [CR][LF]

    USER jdoe[CR][LF]

    +OK[CR][LF]

    PASS password[CR][LF]

    +OK Mailbox locked and ready[CR][LF]

    ----

    

    But with your POP server, it looks like this:

    ----

    +OK <12...@ba...>[CR][LF]

    USER jdoe[CR][LF]

    +OK[CR][LF]

    PASS password[CR][LF]

    +OK qmail-pop3d-gemini 1766: auth_init: login=jdoe,
    authdata=password[LF][LF]

    +OK qmail-pop3d-gemini 1766: Pod 7 Gemini_POP, country: '' found in
    the auth database[LF][LF]

    +OK[CR][LF]

    ----

    

    That awkwardly terminated/separated multi-line response to the PASS
    command is what's screwing up LogicMail.  I now need to fix my
    line-termination-handler code to detect and work around this
    situation.

    

    -Derek

    


      

Re: [Logicmail-users] LogicMail 1.9.1.213

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

  Yes, and testing now.  It looks like you have a very weird POP 
server.  I'll mention details here, in case anyone else is curious.

With a normal POP server, the login sequence is like such:
----
+OK <12...@fo...> mail.foo.com [CR][LF]
USER jdoe[CR][LF]
+OK[CR][LF]
PASS password[CR][LF]
+OK Mailbox locked and ready[CR][LF]
----

But with your POP server, it looks like this:
----
+OK <12...@ba...>[CR][LF]
USER jdoe[CR][LF]
+OK[CR][LF]
PASS password[CR][LF]
+OK qmail-pop3d-gemini 1766: auth_init: login=jdoe, 
authdata=password[LF][LF]
+OK qmail-pop3d-gemini 1766: Pod 7 Gemini_POP, country: '' found in the 
auth database[LF][LF]
+OK[CR][LF]
----

That awkwardly terminated/separated multi-line response to the PASS 
command is what's screwing up LogicMail.  I now need to fix my 
line-termination-handler code to detect and work around this situation.

-Derek

On 10/15/2010 1:14 PM, Peter P. wrote:
> Derek, did you get my PM? Reply here please yes/no there may be 
> delivery problems in both directions.
>
> -- Peter
>
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Re: [Logicmail-users] LogicMail 1.9.1.213

[Peter P. <plp...@ya...>]

Derek, did you get my PM? Reply here please yes/no there may be delivery problems in both directions.

-- Peter




      

Re: [Logicmail-users] 1.2.213 errors

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

  I think the non-English layout issue is really the same thing as the 
multi-line issue you're running into.  I need to fix it, and will look 
into it shortly.

The POP login issue actually looks like something that happens after you 
authenticate (from the log you showed me), but its hard to know without 
testing myself.  Is there any way you can give me temporary access to a 
test account that I can reproduce this issue myself on?  (if so, please 
e-mail me privately with login info)

-Derek

On 10/15/2010 11:39 AM, Peter P. wrote:
> I am not using any non-English character sets excepting for the fact 
> that foreign languages are installed by default in BB (German Umlauts 
> and the like). NO foreign characters were used anywhere in LogicMail 
> so far (password, account names, user ids etc)
>
> Please see also my other email, with more detail. It does not look 
> like a problem in the character set to me, it is much deeper. FWIW the 
> mail server is the one used by godaddy accounts.
>
> -- Peter
>
> --- On *Fri, 10/15/10, Derek Konigsberg 
> /<dko...@lo...>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Derek Konigsberg <dko...@lo...>
>     Subject: Re: [Logicmail-users] 1.2.213 errors
>     To: log...@li...
>     Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 11:31 AM
>
>     Are you using a language other than English?  If so, there are GUI
>     bugs that affect field layout on the config screen.  They're on my
>     to-do list to fix.
>
>     I'll investigate the other issue.
>
>     -Derek
>
>     On 10/15/2010 11:21 AM, Peter P. wrote:
>>     I upgraded LogicMail to 1.2.213 and I get the following error on
>>     Pop mailbox access:
>>
>>     if the password is NOT set for POP in the Config, I am prompted
>>     for it, enter it (upper and lowercase and digits, no special
>>     characters, then I get a "StringOutOfBounds: -1 error".
>>
>>     *nothing* is written into the device log
>>     The text "Closing connection" remains displayed at the bottom and
>>     the program is not responsive, only Exit works.
>>
>>     Entering a bad password on purpose yields: the same thing as
>>     above the first time, and "Unknown Error" thereafter.
>>
>>     The connection parameters are:
>>
>>     pop, SSL, port 995
>>
>>     One more thing: the password entry field in Account->Basic
>>     settings is not visible (can't scroll down below Userbame:), the
>>     cursor disappears at the bottom ?! I assume this is a bug in the
>>     GUI somehow. Sending messages works fine (also SSL, same identity).
>>
>>     -- Peter
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Logicmail-users] 1.2.213 errors

[<jer...@at...>]

How do I unsubscribe to this email list. I no longer require logicmail. 

Thank you. 

Jeremy
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 08:39:55 
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Subject: Re: [Logicmail-users] 1.2.213 errors

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Re: [Logicmail-users] 1.2.213 errors

[Peter P. <plp...@ya...>]

I am not using any non-English character sets excepting for the fact that foreign languages are installed by default in BB (German Umlauts and the like). NO foreign characters were used anywhere in LogicMail so far (password, account names, user ids etc)

Please see also my other email, with more detail. It does not look like a problem in the character set to me, it is much deeper. FWIW the mail server is the one used by godaddy accounts.

-- Peter

--- On Fri, 10/15/10, Derek Konigsberg <dko...@lo...> wrote:

From: Derek Konigsberg <dko...@lo...>
Subject: Re: [Logicmail-users] 1.2.213 errors
To: log...@li...
Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 11:31 AM



  

    
  Are you using a language other than English?  If so, there are GUI
    bugs that affect field layout on the config screen.  They're on my
    to-do list to fix.

    

    I'll investigate the other issue.

    

    -Derek

    

    On 10/15/2010 11:21 AM, Peter P. wrote:
    
      
        
          
            I upgraded LogicMail
              to 1.2.213 and I get the following error on Pop mailbox
              access:

              

              if the password is NOT set for POP in the Config, I am
              prompted for it,
              enter it (upper and lowercase and digits, no special
              characters, then I
              get a "StringOutOfBounds: -1 error".

              

              *nothing* is written into the device log

              The text "Closing connection" remains displayed at the
              bottom and the program is not responsive, only Exit works.

              

              Entering a bad password on purpose yields: the same thing
              as above the first time, and "Unknown Error" thereafter.

              

              The connection parameters are: 

              

              pop, SSL, port 995

              

              One more thing: the password entry field in
              Account->Basic settings
              is not visible (can't scroll down below Userbame:), the
              cursor
              disappears at the bottom ?! I assume this is a bug in the
              GUI somehow.
              Sending messages works fine (also SSL, same identity).

              

              -- Peter

              

              

              

            
          
        
      
      

      
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Re: [Logicmail-users] 1.2.213 errors

[Peter P. <plp...@ya...>]

Update: I made a mistake when reading the log. The log is not empty, I forgot to refresh it. Here are new infos

1. re: the invisible password line in Account->Basic settings: This only happens when a long server name is used and it uses 2 lines under 'Server:'. This pushes the form bottom down and the Password field disappears. Workaround: enter the server name last, after entering the Password, if used

2. re: behavior problem:

2.1 password filled in: error box "String index out of range: -1", first time, every next time I di Refresh Status, I get "Unknown error"; log shows:

S Java Exception - NullPointerException - 10/15 18:31:27
| No detail message
| LogicMail-2
|  PopClient
|  close
|  0xB9A2
| LogicMail-1
|  AbstractMailConnectionHandler
|  handleClosingConnection
|  0x611
| LogicMail-1
|  AbstractMailConnectionHandler$ConnectionThread
|  run
|  0xB29
E LogicMail - java.lang.NullPointerException - 10/15 18:31:27
S Java Exception - NullPointerException - 10/15 18:31:27
| No detail message
| LogicMail-4
|  Connection
|  sendCommand
|  0x633
| LogicMail-2
|  PopProtocol
|  <private>
|  0xC416
| LogicMail-2
|  PopProtocol
|  <private>
|  0xC377
| LogicMail-2
|  PopProtocol
|  executeCapa
|  0xBF92
| LogicMail-2
|  PopClient
|  open
|  0xB8F7
| LogicMail-1
|  AbstractMailConnectionHandler
|  handleOpeningConnection
|  0x405
| LogicMail-1
|  AbstractMailConnectionHandler$ConnectionThread
|  run
|  0xB09
a net.rim.tcp - clos - 10/15 18:30:50
E LogicMail - java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBoundsException: String index out of range: -1 - 10/15 18:30:49
S Java Exception - StringIndexOutOfBoundsException - 10/15 18:30:49
| String index out of range: -1
| net_rim_cldc
|  String
|  substring
|  0xA351
| LogicMail-2
|  PopProtocol
|  executeStat
|  0xC194
| LogicMail-2
|  PopClient
|  open
|  0xB97C
| LogicMail-1
|  AbstractMailConnectionHandler
|  handleOpeningConnection
|  0x405
| LogicMail-1
|  AbstractMailConnectionHandler$ConnectionThread
|  run
|  0xB09








      

Re: [Logicmail-users] 1.2.213 errors

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

  Are you using a language other than English?  If so, there are GUI 
bugs that affect field layout on the config screen.  They're on my to-do 
list to fix.

I'll investigate the other issue.

-Derek

On 10/15/2010 11:21 AM, Peter P. wrote:
> I upgraded LogicMail to 1.2.213 and I get the following error on Pop 
> mailbox access:
>
> if the password is NOT set for POP in the Config, I am prompted for 
> it, enter it (upper and lowercase and digits, no special characters, 
> then I get a "StringOutOfBounds: -1 error".
>
> *nothing* is written into the device log
> The text "Closing connection" remains displayed at the bottom and the 
> program is not responsive, only Exit works.
>
> Entering a bad password on purpose yields: the same thing as above the 
> first time, and "Unknown Error" thereafter.
>
> The connection parameters are:
>
> pop, SSL, port 995
>
> One more thing: the password entry field in Account->Basic settings is 
> not visible (can't scroll down below Userbame:), the cursor disappears 
> at the bottom ?! I assume this is a bug in the GUI somehow. Sending 
> messages works fine (also SSL, same identity).
>
> -- Peter
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Logicmail-users] 1.2.213 errors

[Peter P. <plp...@ya...>]

I upgraded LogicMail to 1.2.213 and I get the following error on Pop mailbox access:



if the password is NOT set for POP in the Config, I am prompted for it,
enter it (upper and lowercase and digits, no special characters, then I
get a "StringOutOfBounds: -1 error".



*nothing* is written into the device log

The text "Closing connection" remains displayed at the bottom and the program is not responsive, only Exit works.



Entering a bad password on purpose yields: the same thing as above the first time, and "Unknown Error" thereafter.



The connection parameters are: 



pop, SSL, port 995



One more thing: the password entry field in Account->Basic settings
is not visible (can't scroll down below Userbame:), the cursor
disappears at the bottom ?! I assume this is a bug in the GUI somehow.
Sending messages works fine (also SSL, same identity).



-- Peter










      

[Logicmail-users] logicmail problem on certain servers?

[Peter P. <plp...@ya...>]

I'm trying to use LogicMail 1.1.0 to send and receive email from a godaddy ssl server and
I run into problems. The server is tested with other clients. The error seen is (data from device event log):

Name: LogicMail
Severity: Error
GUID: 6bc611e33074e780
---
java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBoundsException: String index out of range: -1

The error in LogicMail is: while opening the account:
[Connecting to Server]
[quickly disappearing popup window, can't read text]
[Unknown Error]

The INBOX then shows up empty but the LogicMail behaves strangely and I have to exit and restart it to use it.

The error occurs on receiving email (not on sending, which works). The relevant account data is:

Account name: something@somewhere
Protocol: POP
Incoming Server:
Server: some.pop.server
[x] SSL
Port: 995
Username: someuser
Password: *******
[ ] Use MDS Proxy

Identity: something@somewhere
Outgoing server: wo...@sm...rver (SMTP)

Note that the smtp is also ssl/tls

Any ideas on what I could do to fix it? Thanks,

-- Peter





      

[Logicmail-users] LogicMail 2.0 side by side with Logic Mail 1.x

[Bill F. <wrf...@gm...>]

Any chance of getting a 2.0 version that I can load side by side with the
latest stable version on my Blackberry Curve 8310?

I'd like to spend time using 2.0 but don't want to completely abandon the
stability of the current version.  Especially when away from a real
computer.

Thanks

--Bill

Re: [Logicmail-users] Minimum OS version for 2.0 (and dev builds)

[Derik du P. <der...@gm...>]

I am on the lattest version.

Regards

Derik du Plessis
Cell: +56 9 7988 8487
Skype: derik.duplessis


On 3 October 2010 13:04, Derek Konigsberg <dko...@lo...>wrote:

> As you all know, the current minimum BlackBerry OS version for the
> LogicMail pre-2.0 (i.e. 1.9.1.x) development builds is OS 4.2.  However,
> the latest development tools really don't want to support anything older
> than 4.5.  (My tools still support 4.2 only because I have an old
> installation I keep installing updates into.)
>
> I'd like to change my minimum supported version from 4.2 up to 4.5.
> However, as I check my download logs, there are still a small number of
> 4.2 and 4.3 users out there.  So I want to know when I can make this
> change.
>
> If any of the 4.2/4.3 users are on these lists, do you plan on upgrading
> to at least OS 4.5 sometime in the near future?  Nearly all 4.2/4.3
> devices can be upgraded to OS 4.5.
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[Logicmail-users] Minimum OS version for 2.0 (and dev builds)

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

As you all know, the current minimum BlackBerry OS version for the 
LogicMail pre-2.0 (i.e. 1.9.1.x) development builds is OS 4.2.  However, 
the latest development tools really don't want to support anything older 
than 4.5.  (My tools still support 4.2 only because I have an old 
installation I keep installing updates into.)

I'd like to change my minimum supported version from 4.2 up to 4.5. 
However, as I check my download logs, there are still a small number of 
4.2 and 4.3 users out there.  So I want to know when I can make this change.

If any of the 4.2/4.3 users are on these lists, do you plan on upgrading 
to at least OS 4.5 sometime in the near future?  Nearly all 4.2/4.3 
devices can be upgraded to OS 4.5.

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[Logicmail-users] Impa - Sent

[Ruchir J. <ru...@tc...>]

Hi,

I have successfully configured the incoming mail servcer. Mine is a imap server and the server administrator has said that the incoming and outgoing servers are the same. Based on that I have also configured my outgoing server. But it is not working. Couple of questions for the guys using it


  *   Outgoing server gets configured as SMTP server, whereas my server is IMAP. Is there any problem?
  *   which login option to use – plain/login/cram-md5?
  *   what is mds proxy
  *   what shud be the SSL port?

Any hint/advice will be really appreciated.

Thanks a ton.
Ruchir




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Re: [Logicmail-users] imap and exchange

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

  I think you should know the drill by now, following this list and all :-)
(use the connection debugging feature, as described on the project 
website, to capture a log of network communications)

In my own brief tests against an Exchange server, it seems to work just 
fine.  Of course I don't really have an Exchange server I can easily 
muck around with as part of my everyday test environment, so anything is 
possible.

(Right now I've got an OpenBSD install inside VirtualBox, with Cyrus, 
Dovecot, Courier, and BincIMAP, though I probably do 95% of my testing 
with Cyrus.)

-Derek

On 08/23/2010 07:14 PM, John Scarfone wrote:
> Hi,
>  Noticed an issue with 204, in that I created a new account in LM and 
> while getting folders, I'm only able to see inbox and sync issues. (Is 
> there a way to see all the folders from an Exchange server?)
>  Also, no messages are in the inbox, and when I attempt to get new 
> messages, (I just sent this user a message) I get the following error 
> "next uid for folder is unknown error."
>  And I don't get the message.
>  Any idea's?
> Thanks
> John
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[Logicmail-users] Network issues with builds 200-206

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

  Several of you have reported issues that are all seemingly unrelated.  
However, they all have a common thread...  They're all on the most 
recent builds and they all involve some user-action that pushes a small 
amount of data over the network (I think).

Apparently the behavior of reading data from the network differs across 
BB OS versions.  I was able to reproduce some similar problems on my 4.6 
device, while my everyday 5.0 device works just fine.

Anyways, I just checked in a fix, which is in build 207, which should 
fix the issue*.

* Until someone else tests it, of course :-)

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[Logicmail-users] imap and exchange

[John S. <js...@eo...>]

Hi,

 Noticed an issue with 204, in that I created a new account in LM and while getting folders, I'm only able to see inbox and sync issues. (Is there a way to see all the folders from an Exchange server?)

 Also, no messages are in the inbox, and when I attempt to get new messages, (I just sent this user a message) I get the following error "next uid for folder is unknown error."

 And I don't get the message.

 Any idea's?

Thanks
John

[Logicmail-users] STARTTLS support for message submission?

[Greg R. <gcr...@th...>]

My mail server requires plain authentication after STARTTLS for both IMAP 
access and SMTP submission.  LogicMail handles this very well for IMAP, 
but not for SMTP.

With the following Outgoing (SMTP) settings,
Use secure connection: TLS
                  Port: 587
        Authentication: PLAIN
     Connection method: Direct TCP
Use WiFi if available: check

attempting to send email results in this error: "Unable to switch to TLS 
mode", and the message is left in the local Outbox folder.

Sendmail records the event thusly:
STARTTLS=server, error: accept failed=0, SSL_error=1, errno=0, retry=-1, relay=137.sub-97-147-34.myvzw.com [97.147.34.137]
STARTTLS=server: 23870:error:1409441A:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:tlsv1 alert decode error:/usr/src/secure/lib/libssl/../../../crypto/openssl/ssl/s3_pkt.c:1102:SSL alert number 50
o7NKAx8K023870: 137.sub-97-147-34.myvzw.com [97.147.34.137] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MSA

Is this a bug, or is LogicMail known to not support STARTTLS for SMTP? 
I'm running version 1.9.1.206 on a Storm2 9550 v5.0.0.713.

BTW Mr Konigsberg, thanks very much for LogicMail.  It's a great program. 
Very solid, very nice.

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Re: [Logicmail-users] Unable to send mail

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

  On 08/23/2010 12:23 AM, Dave Warren wrote:
>> I'm a new user doing a first time setup on my current device, having
>> issues sending mail...
>>
>> I get a popup reading "mail.my.server.name Hello 172.24.0.99, pleased to
>> meet you"
>>
>> This appears to be my SMTP server's response to the EHLO command, which
>> looks to be valid when I connect to the same server myself:
>>
>> EHLO xyzzy
>> 250-mail.my.server.name Hello xyzzy, pleased to meet you
>> 250-ETRN
>> 250-AUTH=LOGIN
>> 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5
>> 250-8BITMIME
>> 250-STARTTLS
>> 250-ATRN
>> 250 SIZE
>>
>> This looks reasonably standards compliant to me, any clues what is
>> wrong?
>>
>> Any extra debugging logs in LogicMail that might be helpful?
>>
>> (mail.my.server.name replaces the real server name in the above
>> message...)
> For whatever it's worth, the same happens on 204.  I didn't really
> expect a change, but since I installed 204 anyway it was worth testing.
>
>
Sorry I haven't had the chance to test much further.  What would be 
really helpful is a log of the full exchange between LogicMail and the 
SMTP server to see exactly which step of the process is failing.

If you can put a packet sniffer between the two (even if using a BB 
simulator on your desktop, that's always the best.  But I also have 
built-in logging features that can be used to make the app itself log 
that data.  See the "debugging" page on the project website for more info.


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Re: [Logicmail-users] Unable to send mail

[Dave W. <li...@hi...>]

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 12:04:57 -0700, Dave Warren <li...@hi...> was
claimed to have wrote:

>I'm a new user doing a first time setup on my current device, having
>issues sending mail... 
>
>I get a popup reading "mail.my.server.name Hello 172.24.0.99, pleased to
>meet you"
>
>This appears to be my SMTP server's response to the EHLO command, which
>looks to be valid when I connect to the same server myself:
>
>EHLO xyzzy
>250-mail.my.server.name Hello xyzzy, pleased to meet you
>250-ETRN
>250-AUTH=LOGIN
>250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5
>250-8BITMIME
>250-STARTTLS
>250-ATRN
>250 SIZE
>
>This looks reasonably standards compliant to me, any clues what is
>wrong?
>
>Any extra debugging logs in LogicMail that might be helpful?
>
>(mail.my.server.name replaces the real server name in the above
>message...)

For whatever it's worth, the same happens on 204.  I didn't really
expect a change, but since I installed 204 anyway it was worth testing.

Re: [Logicmail-users] Performance improvements and caution (build 203)

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

  My first course of action would be to log the actual network 
connection to the device's event logger:
https://www.logicprobe.org/proj/logicmail/wiki/debugging

(P.S. There are about half a million posts between the mailing lists, 
forums, etc, all mentioning things relating to that...  Including one 
about various logger items you can use to see what the BB itself is 
doing to open the connection.)

Then, actually read the log messages.  (they're not a pile of binary 
gobbledegook, even though many users want to treat them like that)

If the problem is in actually opening the connection, the "net.rim.tcp" 
(I think) loggers could help.  But generally, the basic "open a 
connection" is the most common (and hardest for me to be able to help 
with) of all BB issues.

If the problem is during the login process itself, the network 
connection logs (as mentioned above) should help in debugging it.

-Derek

On 08/21/2010 10:20 PM, Charles Bennett wrote:
> Hey All -
>
>
> Just pulled 204 and reconfigured to POP from earthlink's POP servers.
>
> No joy.  Eventually I get a connection timeout on both POP get and SMTP
> port 587 send.  This was working on 1.1
>
> Bold 9700 v5.0.0.602
>
> Anything else I can get you?
>
>
> ccb
>
> On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 18:51 -0400, Derek Konigsberg wrote:
>> I just fixed it, so download 204 :-)
>>
>> I found the same bug about a half-hour ago.  These things always crop
>> up on your first real test after you've shut down development for the
>> day ;-)
>>
>> On 8/21/2010 5:06 PM, John Scarfone wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> 203 is a lot faster, but I have two read messages, which aren't
>>> downloaded into LM. All my previous messages were download and in LM
>>> from 202.  I'm using imap. Any idea's?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> John
>>>
>>> ---- On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:06:38 -0400 Derek Konigsberg wrote ----
>>>
>>>
>>>   Build 203 should be available shortly.  This is probably the
>>> biggest change I've committed at once in quite a long time.  So if
>>> it blows up in your face (which it very well may), feel free to drop
>>> back to build 202.  (just let me know in useful detail so I can
>>> debug it)
>>>
>>>  From the user-perspective, you'll notice two things:
>>> 1) Freshly opening a mail folder (at least /w IMAP) may be twice as
>>> fast, or more.
>>> 2) Saving larger attachments (/w IMAP) should actually work now.
>>>
>>> Of course, to do this, I had to do three things that could cause LM
>>> to blow up in your face, if there are lurking bugs :-)
>>> 1) Changed how data gets from the network connection to the rest of
>>> the application
>>>   (keeping data as a byte[] as long as possible, only making Strings
>>> when necessary, and a few other things)
>>> 2) Completely rewrote the core piece of the IMAP parser
>>>   (the old code was slow and ugly, the new code is simple and fast)
>>> 3) Made saving messages to the SDCard happen on a separate thread
>>> from downloading/displaying them
>>>
>>> In doing all of this, I was also able to remove a lot of hacks and
>>> workaround that were necessary with the old and crusty low-level
>>> code.
>>>
>>> So hopefully everyone will be happy in the long run.  Just be
>>> forewarned :-)
>>>
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Re: [Logicmail-users] Performance improvements and caution (build 203)

[Charles B. <cc...@ac...>]

Hey All -


Just pulled 204 and reconfigured to POP from earthlink's POP servers.

No joy.  Eventually I get a connection timeout on both POP get and SMTP
port 587 send.  This was working on 1.1

Bold 9700 v5.0.0.602

Anything else I can get you?


ccb

On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 18:51 -0400, Derek Konigsberg wrote:
> I just fixed it, so download 204 :-)
> 
> I found the same bug about a half-hour ago.  These things always crop
> up on your first real test after you've shut down development for the
> day ;-)
> 
> On 8/21/2010 5:06 PM, John Scarfone wrote: 
> > Hi 
> > 203 is a lot faster, but I have two read messages, which aren't
> > downloaded into LM. All my previous messages were download and in LM
> > from 202.  I'm using imap. Any idea's? 
> > 
> > Thanks, 
> > John 
> > 
> > ---- On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:06:38 -0400 Derek Konigsberg wrote ---- 
> > 
> > 
> >  Build 203 should be available shortly.  This is probably the
> > biggest change I've committed at once in quite a long time.  So if
> > it blows up in your face (which it very well may), feel free to drop
> > back to build 202.  (just let me know in useful detail so I can
> > debug it) 
> > 
> > From the user-perspective, you'll notice two things: 
> > 1) Freshly opening a mail folder (at least /w IMAP) may be twice as
> > fast, or more. 
> > 2) Saving larger attachments (/w IMAP) should actually work now. 
> > 
> > Of course, to do this, I had to do three things that could cause LM
> > to blow up in your face, if there are lurking bugs :-) 
> > 1) Changed how data gets from the network connection to the rest of
> > the application 
> >  (keeping data as a byte[] as long as possible, only making Strings
> > when necessary, and a few other things) 
> > 2) Completely rewrote the core piece of the IMAP parser 
> >  (the old code was slow and ugly, the new code is simple and fast) 
> > 3) Made saving messages to the SDCard happen on a separate thread
> > from downloading/displaying them 
> > 
> > In doing all of this, I was also able to remove a lot of hacks and
> > workaround that were necessary with the old and crusty low-level
> > code. 
> > 
> > So hopefully everyone will be happy in the long run.  Just be
> > forewarned :-) 
> > 
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Re: [Logicmail-users] Performance improvements and caution (build 203)

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

  I just fixed it, so download 204 :-)

I found the same bug about a half-hour ago.  These things always crop up 
on your first real test after you've shut down development for the day ;-)

On 8/21/2010 5:06 PM, John Scarfone wrote:
> Hi
> 203 is a lot faster, but I have two read messages, which aren't 
> downloaded into LM. All my previous messages were download and in LM 
> from 202.  I'm using imap. Any idea's?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> ---- On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:06:38 -0400 Derek Konigsberg wrote ----
>
>
>  Build 203 should be available shortly.  This is probably the biggest 
> change I've committed at once in quite a long time.  So if it blows up 
> in your face (which it very well may), feel free to drop back to build 
> 202.  (just let me know in useful detail so I can debug it)
>
> From the user-perspective, you'll notice two things:
> 1) Freshly opening a mail folder (at least /w IMAP) may be twice as 
> fast, or more.
> 2) Saving larger attachments (/w IMAP) should actually work now.
>
> Of course, to do this, I had to do three things that could cause LM to 
> blow up in your face, if there are lurking bugs :-)
> 1) Changed how data gets from the network connection to the rest of 
> the application
>  (keeping data as a byte[] as long as possible, only making Strings 
> when necessary, and a few other things)
> 2) Completely rewrote the core piece of the IMAP parser
>  (the old code was slow and ugly, the new code is simple and fast)
> 3) Made saving messages to the SDCard happen on a separate thread from 
> downloading/displaying them
>
> In doing all of this, I was also able to remove a lot of hacks and 
> workaround that were necessary with the old and crusty low-level code.
>
> So hopefully everyone will be happy in the long run.  Just be 
> forewarned :-)
>
>
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Re: [Logicmail-users] Performance improvements and caution (build 203)

[John Scarfone<js...@eo...>]

Hi 

 203 is a lot faster, but I have two read messages, which aren't downloaded into LM. All my previous messages were download and in LM from 202.  I'm using imap. Any idea's?

Thanks,
John

---- On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:06:38 -0400 Derek Konigsberg wrote ----


  Build 203 should be available shortly.  This is probably the biggest 
change I've committed at once in quite a long time.  So if it blows up 
in your face (which it very well may), feel free to drop back to build 
202.  (just let me know in useful detail so I can debug it)

 From the user-perspective, you'll notice two things:
1) Freshly opening a mail folder (at least /w IMAP) may be twice as 
fast, or more.
2) Saving larger attachments (/w IMAP) should actually work now.

Of course, to do this, I had to do three things that could cause LM to 
blow up in your face, if there are lurking bugs :-)
1) Changed how data gets from the network connection to the rest of the 
application
  (keeping data as a byte[] as long as possible, only making Strings 
when necessary, and a few other things)
2) Completely rewrote the core piece of the IMAP parser
  (the old code was slow and ugly, the new code is simple and fast)
3) Made saving messages to the SDCard happen on a separate thread from 
downloading/displaying them

In doing all of this, I was also able to remove a lot of hacks and 
workaround that were necessary with the old and crusty low-level code.

So hopefully everyone will be happy in the long run.  Just be forewarned :-)

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[Logicmail-users] Performance improvements and caution (build 203)

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

  Build 203 should be available shortly.  This is probably the biggest 
change I've committed at once in quite a long time.  So if it blows up 
in your face (which it very well may), feel free to drop back to build 
202.  (just let me know in useful detail so I can debug it)

 From the user-perspective, you'll notice two things:
1) Freshly opening a mail folder (at least /w IMAP) may be twice as 
fast, or more.
2) Saving larger attachments (/w IMAP) should actually work now.

Of course, to do this, I had to do three things that could cause LM to 
blow up in your face, if there are lurking bugs :-)
1) Changed how data gets from the network connection to the rest of the 
application
  (keeping data as a byte[] as long as possible, only making Strings 
when necessary, and a few other things)
2) Completely rewrote the core piece of the IMAP parser
  (the old code was slow and ugly, the new code is simple and fast)
3) Made saving messages to the SDCard happen on a separate thread from 
downloading/displaying them

In doing all of this, I was also able to remove a lot of hacks and 
workaround that were necessary with the old and crusty low-level code.

So hopefully everyone will be happy in the long run.  Just be forewarned :-)

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