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Re: [Logicmail-users] build 200 slow

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

Okay, I'm bring this one back on-list, since the final result is of
interest to everyone.

It looks like the UID error, which John mentioned in passing, was the
real key to all of this.  I was able to reproduce that same error during
my own testing here.

The real bug here was that my newer/better/faster network code was
returning some junk whenever reading a lot of data at once.  Apparently
this junk was ignored by just enough of the code that I never noticed it
until just now.

So, the problem should be fixed, and build 201 should now be even faster
than 199 was.

P.S. This bug may have been the cause of the large-attachment-download
issues that have been recently reported, so I suggest testing that again
as well.  It may magically work now.

-Derek


On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:19 -0400, "John Scarfone" <js...@eo...> wrote:
> Getting folder messages takes approx 20 seconds. Overall build 199 seemed
> a lot faster for me. (both opening and getting message folder list was
> faster) 
> -- 
> John
> 
> On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 22:27:46 -0400, Derek Konigsberg wrote:
> >   Okay, its hard to determine the specific sequence of events from what 
> > you've said.
> > 
> > When you say "getting folders", do you mean "getting the message list", 
> > or "refreshing the folder tree"?
> > If you mean "getting the message list", then its actually a two-step 
> > operation under the covers (as I described in my last message).  It used 
> > to be pretty evenly divided between downloading (progress in "kb") and 
> > processing (progress in "%").  Now I've sped up the downloading, so the 
> > second half is far more noticeable.  It shouldn't be slower, but its 
> > possible that it may be.
> > 
> > Now the other part...
> > "when I have no messages I get an error next uid folder is unknown."
> > 
> > This is likely to be a bug, since I don't test that case very often.  
> > I'll test it as soon as I can, since its probably a simple fix.
> > 
> > -Derek
> > 
> > 
> > On 8/3/2010 9:11 PM, John Scarfone wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >  It takes approx 45 seconds when opening the connection, after that 
> > > getting folders approx 20 seconds and when I have no messages I get an 
> > > error next uid folder is unknown.
> > > Thanks
> > > John
> > > =====================
> > >
> > > >>> Derek Konigsberg<dko...@lo...> 8/3/2010 9:50 PM >>>
> > > Can you be more specific as to exactly what is slower?
> > >
> > > If I assume that you mean "what happens between clicking on a folder, 
> > > and LogicMail being done doing stuff", the following is what happens:
> > > 1) Load cached message headers from the SD Card
> > > 2) Refresh message flags (usually very quick, unless you have to wait 
> > > for the connection to open)
> > > 3) Download new message headers
> > >     a) Downloading data from the server (progress bar shows a kb count)
> > >     b) Parse the data and update the screen (progress bar shows a 
> > > percentage)
> > >
> > > The big change in build 200 was a rewrite of the low-level network 
> > > socket code, which actually improves its performance dramatically.  
> > > This makes steps 2 and 3a go much faster.  However, speeding up that 
> > > code had the side effect of making the slow performance of the current 
> > > IMAP parsing code (step 3b) far more apparent.
> > >
> > > So what behavior are you seeing, specifically?
> > >
> > > P.S. I'm actually in the middle of rewriting some of the core IMAP 
> > > parsing code, which should make this all go a lot faster.  Its just 
> > > that the current code is very well tested, so I don't want to replace 
> > > it until I'm confident I can handle every last little corner-case 
> > > (i.e. things you'll likely never encounter unless someone sends you an 
> > > e-mail with a Chinese subject).
> > >
> > > On 8/3/2010 11:59 AM, John Scarfone wrote:
> > >> Hi
> > >> With build 200 it takes a long time to get my imap mail. I went back 
> > >> to 199 and I can get my imap mail fast again.
> > >> Any chance you can fix this issue with the next build?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> John
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: [Logicmail-users] moving/filing messages

[Ben W. - N. On S. <ben...@ne...>]

Thank you.  I will upgrade to 1.9.1.200 and see what happens.

 

Cheers,

Ben

 

From: Derek Konigsberg [mailto:dko...@lo...] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 10:31 PM
To: log...@li...
Cc: Ben Wiper
Subject: Re: [Logicmail-users] moving/filing messages

 

The options are definitely there, though whether or not you see them may
depend on a few specifics...

First, all the active development work at this point is on trunk, so I
barely even remember where things are in 1.1 anymore.  The 1.1 code was
extremely basic, and really couldn't do anything fancy.

That being said, the development builds do have pretty decent IMAP move
capabilities.  They actually use a server-side command (whenever possible)
that can do it without having to pass the message data through your client.

P.S. In the really old posts, what I referred to as 0.5 is what is now
considered pre-2.0 code.

On 8/2/2010 6:46 PM, Ben Wiper wrote: 

Hello,

 

I recently installed and setup logicmail, really liking it so far - can
send/receive and see my imap folders, but I don't see the menu option to
file/move my messages from my inbox to other folders.  Am I missing
something?  I looked in the forums and it appears that this functionality
has existed since v0.5.  Any assistance much appreciated.

 

TIA,

Ben

 
 
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Re: [Logicmail-users] Signature problem

[Jess H. <jes...@go...>]

In message <4C5...@lo...>
          Derek Konigsberg <dko...@lo...> wrote:
>   On 8/3/2010 2:57 AM, Jess Hampshire wrote:

>> On replies it puts the signature in the wrong place (above the quoted
>> text, like outlook does), what have I done wrong?

> Which means you might be one of those people who doesn't like
> top-posting :-)

Yes. :)

How can anyone produce a accurate reply to a long email on a tiny 
screen by top posting? Of course, it isn't top or bottom posting, but 
inline replies and removing the redundant text that are important. 
(especially to those on limited data plans)

> (sorry, I normally do top-post, unless I'm trimming the quoted section,
> but I'll avoid it here)

Thanks.

> You are running the latest and greatest build of LogicMail.  However,
> there really isn't any option for signature placement behavior.  But as
> I reply to this message in Thunderbird, I'm seeing that putting the
> signature on the bottom of a reply is the correct behavior.

On replies, the client I mainly use (messenger pro) doesn't quote the 
signature (thunderbird does the same).

On display it colours the different levels of quoted text.

new text: black
first quote blue ie one chevron
second quote red ie two chevrons
third quote red
fourth quote turquoise
signature grey

This would make emails far easier to read on a small screen, 
(especially bouncing around on a train). Thunderbird will do this with 
a plug-in called quote-colors (however, the default settings for the 
plug-in are horrid, but it is really nice once configured, - don't 
colour background, don't change chevrons to lines, change the colours 
to less saturated versions)

These conventions were developed to make email efficient back when 
small screens and limited bandwidth were the norm, which of course is 
where we are now using a BlackBerry.

If these two were possible, then it would really enhance Logicmail.

> I just opened a ticket to track the issue, so feel free to comment on it
> if you have anything to add:
> http://www.logicprobe.org/proj/logicmail/ticket/220

Thanks.

With respect to forwarded messages, I'm not sure there is a proper 
defined behaviour.

My client includes a header with the original Date: From: To: and 
Subject: and a "Begin forwarded message" line. Then the message 
(without additional chevrons added) Then "end of forwarded message" 
Then the normal signature.

I don't think that a signature at the top would be wrong in this case, 
but it should not have the standard separator because this would make 
the whole message appear as the signature.

I have no idea whether adding chevrons is correct or not.

in favour - it indicates clearly that you didn't originate the 
message.

against - it changes the original message.

Thanks

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Re: [Logicmail-users] build 200 slow

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

  Can you be more specific as to exactly what is slower?

If I assume that you mean "what happens between clicking on a folder, 
and LogicMail being done doing stuff", the following is what happens:
1) Load cached message headers from the SD Card
2) Refresh message flags (usually very quick, unless you have to wait 
for the connection to open)
3) Download new message headers
     a) Downloading data from the server (progress bar shows a kb count)
     b) Parse the data and update the screen (progress bar shows a 
percentage)

The big change in build 200 was a rewrite of the low-level network 
socket code, which actually improves its performance dramatically.  This 
makes steps 2 and 3a go much faster.  However, speeding up that code had 
the side effect of making the slow performance of the current IMAP 
parsing code (step 3b) far more apparent.

So what behavior are you seeing, specifically?

P.S. I'm actually in the middle of rewriting some of the core IMAP 
parsing code, which should make this all go a lot faster.  Its just that 
the current code is very well tested, so I don't want to replace it 
until I'm confident I can handle every last little corner-case (i.e. 
things you'll likely never encounter unless someone sends you an e-mail 
with a Chinese subject).

On 8/3/2010 11:59 AM, John Scarfone wrote:
> Hi
> With build 200 it takes a long time to get my imap mail. I went back 
> to 199 and I can get my imap mail fast again.
> Any chance you can fix this issue with the next build?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
>
> ---- On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 08:57:32 +0100 Jess Hampshire wrote ----
>
>
>
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Re: [Logicmail-users] moving/filing messages

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

  The options are definitely there, though whether or not you see them 
may depend on a few specifics...

First, all the active development work at this point is on trunk, so I 
barely even remember where things are in 1.1 anymore.  The 1.1 code was 
extremely basic, and really couldn't do anything fancy.

That being said, the development builds do have pretty decent IMAP move 
capabilities.  They actually use a server-side command (whenever 
possible) that can do it without having to pass the message data through 
your client.

P.S. In the really old posts, what I referred to as 0.5 is what is now 
considered pre-2.0 code.

On 8/2/2010 6:46 PM, Ben Wiper wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I recently installed and setup logicmail, really liking it so far -- 
> can send/receive and see my imap folders, but I don't see the menu 
> option to file/move my messages from my inbox to other folders.  Am I 
> missing something?  I looked in the forums and it appears that this 
> functionality has existed since v0.5.  Any assistance much appreciated.
>
> TIA,
>
> Ben
>
>
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Re: [Logicmail-users] Signature problem

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

  On 8/3/2010 2:57 AM, Jess Hampshire wrote:
> Hi
>
> I just installed logic mail (1.9.1.200 - is this the correct version?)
> for the first time on my new blackberry, (9700).
>
> I have managed to get it configured for IMAP on gmail, however I have
> a problem.
>
> On replies it puts the signature in the wrong place (above the quoted
> text, like outlook does), what have I done wrong?
>
> Thanks
Which means you might be one of those people who doesn't like 
top-posting :-)
(sorry, I normally do top-post, unless I'm trimming the quoted section, 
but I'll avoid it here)

You are running the latest and greatest build of LogicMail.  However, 
there really isn't any option for signature placement behavior.  But as 
I reply to this message in Thunderbird, I'm seeing that putting the 
signature on the bottom of a reply is the correct behavior.

I just opened a ticket to track the issue, so feel free to comment on it 
if you have anything to add:
http://www.logicprobe.org/proj/logicmail/ticket/220

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[Logicmail-users] build 200 slow

[John Scarfone<js...@eo...>]

Hi 

 With build 200 it takes a long time to get my imap mail. I went back to 199 and I can get my imap mail fast again. 

 Any chance you can fix this issue with the next build?

Thanks,
John


---- On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 08:57:32 +0100 Jess Hampshire wrote ----



---------------------

[Logicmail-users] Signature problem

[Jess H. <jes...@go...>]

Hi

I just installed logic mail (1.9.1.200 - is this the correct version?) 
for the first time on my new blackberry, (9700).

I have managed to get it configured for IMAP on gmail, however I have 
a problem.

On replies it puts the signature in the wrong place (above the quoted 
text, like outlook does), what have I done wrong?

Thanks
-- 
Jess Hampshire

Plain text emails with interleaved, trimmed replies please. (RFC 1855)

[Logicmail-users] moving/filing messages

[Ben W. <bw...@ea...>]

Hello,

 

I recently installed and setup logicmail, really liking it so far - can
send/receive and see my imap folders, but I don't see the menu option to
file/move my messages from my inbox to other folders.  Am I missing
something?  I looked in the forums and it appears that this functionality
has existed since v0.5.  Any assistance much appreciated.

 

TIA,

Ben

Re: [Logicmail-users] Can't send messages while connected to an Exchange 2007 server using IMAP

[Larry B. <lar...@ar...>]

Thanks for your prompt response.  The network administrators at work tell me 
that support for CRAM-MD5 was dropped in Exchange after  Exchange 2003.  They 
can't seem to get SSL to work.  I tried using the AT&T server for the outgoing 
server but I keep getting a "Error with Sender" message.  I suspect AT&T is 
blocking it because the email address is not an AT&T address.  I guess I will 
just have to continue to use the native Blackberry email client which supports 
NTLM but doesn't support folders.

Thanks for your help.





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From: Derek Konigsberg <dko...@lo...>
To: log...@li...
Cc: Larry Barlow <lar...@ar...>
Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 5:56:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Logicmail-users] Can't send messages while connected to an 
Exchange 2007 server using IMAP

  So I did a little digging, and I think I know what your problem is...
First, I had to figure out what your SMTP server was, so I used the 
"dig" utility to find the MX record in DNS for the e-mail address you're 
using.  Then I tried connecting to that server myself on port 587.  From 
that, I was able to discover that the MS Exchange SMTP server you're 
trying to connect to is only configured to support a very limited set of 
authentication mechanisms.  Specifically, "GSSAPI" and "NTLM".  As 
you've probably discovered in your configuration attempts, LogicMail 
only supports "PLAIN", "LOGIN", and "CRAM-MD5".

Supporting GSSAPI does not make much sense for LogicMail to bother with 
(its designed for Kerberos single-sign-on).  Supporting NTLM makes more 
sense, but being one of those Microsoft protocols, its quite complex and 
only seriously used by Microsoft's server software (or software designed 
to interoperate with it).

The easiest way to get SMTP working for you is to get your server 
configuration fixed to support some other authentication mechanism 
(possibly also supporting SSL/TLS), or using a different server for 
sending mail.

Adding NTLM support to LogicMail is possible in the future, but is far 
from easy, and there are many higher-priority items already on the to-do 
list.  Of course if someone else has experience with NTLM and wants to 
contribute, I'll welcome that. :-)

-Derek

On 7/13/2010 3:28 PM, Larry Barlow wrote:
> I have a Sprint branded Blackberry 8330m running version 4.5.0.131of the
> OS.  At work we have an Exchange 2007 mail server that has IMAP enabled
> (we don't have a BES).  I can connect to the server using the email
> settings icon to setup the account.  All works well (I can send and
> receive mail) except I don't have access to my folders stored on the server.
>
> Consequently, I went in search of a way to view my folders that didn't
> require a BES.  I installed logicmail and now I have my folders and I
> can receive mail but I can't send mail.  Also, I use Thunderbird to
> access this same server and the settings I use for sending mail with
> Thunderbird are port 587, check the Use secure authentication box and
> set the Connection security tab to None.  With logicmail I have tried
> all possible combination of setings for the outgoing SMTP server with no
> success.  Can you tell me what setting to use to allow logicmail to send
> mail.
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [Logicmail-users] Can't send messages while connected to an Exchange 2007 server using IMAP

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

  So I did a little digging, and I think I know what your problem is...
First, I had to figure out what your SMTP server was, so I used the 
"dig" utility to find the MX record in DNS for the e-mail address you're 
using.  Then I tried connecting to that server myself on port 587.  From 
that, I was able to discover that the MS Exchange SMTP server you're 
trying to connect to is only configured to support a very limited set of 
authentication mechanisms.  Specifically, "GSSAPI" and "NTLM".  As 
you've probably discovered in your configuration attempts, LogicMail 
only supports "PLAIN", "LOGIN", and "CRAM-MD5".

Supporting GSSAPI does not make much sense for LogicMail to bother with 
(its designed for Kerberos single-sign-on).  Supporting NTLM makes more 
sense, but being one of those Microsoft protocols, its quite complex and 
only seriously used by Microsoft's server software (or software designed 
to interoperate with it).

The easiest way to get SMTP working for you is to get your server 
configuration fixed to support some other authentication mechanism 
(possibly also supporting SSL/TLS), or using a different server for 
sending mail.

Adding NTLM support to LogicMail is possible in the future, but is far 
from easy, and there are many higher-priority items already on the to-do 
list.  Of course if someone else has experience with NTLM and wants to 
contribute, I'll welcome that. :-)

-Derek

On 7/13/2010 3:28 PM, Larry Barlow wrote:
> I have a Sprint branded Blackberry 8330m running version 4.5.0.131of the
> OS.  At work we have an Exchange 2007 mail server that has IMAP enabled
> (we don't have a BES).  I can connect to the server using the email
> settings icon to setup the account.  All works well (I can send and
> receive mail) except I don't have access to my folders stored on the server.
>
> Consequently, I went in search of a way to view my folders that didn't
> require a BES.  I installed logicmail and now I have my folders and I
> can receive mail but I can't send mail.  Also, I use Thunderbird to
> access this same server and the settings I use for sending mail with
> Thunderbird are port 587, check the Use secure authentication box and
> set the Connection security tab to None.  With logicmail I have tried
> all possible combination of setings for the outgoing SMTP server with no
> success.  Can you tell me what setting to use to allow logicmail to send
> mail.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
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[Logicmail-users] Can't send messages while connected to an Exchange 2007 server using IMAP

[Larry B. <lar...@ar...>]

I have a Sprint branded Blackberry 8330m running version 4.5.0.131of the 
OS.  At work we have an Exchange 2007 mail server that has IMAP enabled 
(we don't have a BES).  I can connect to the server using the email 
settings icon to setup the account.  All works well (I can send and 
receive mail) except I don't have access to my folders stored on the server.

Consequently, I went in search of a way to view my folders that didn't 
require a BES.  I installed logicmail and now I have my folders and I 
can receive mail but I can't send mail.  Also, I use Thunderbird to 
access this same server and the settings I use for sending mail with 
Thunderbird are port 587, check the Use secure authentication box and 
set the Connection security tab to None.  With logicmail I have tried 
all possible combination of setings for the outgoing SMTP server with no 
success.  Can you tell me what setting to use to allow logicmail to send 
mail.

Thanks,

[Logicmail-users] Configuration format/backup/restore changes in next build

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

  I just committed a big change to the development version (1.9.1.x) 
that should be in the next build.  This change does two things I want to 
let you know about:

1) Causes all existing LogicMail configuration data to be wiped out
2) Adds support for backup/restore of settings with the BlackBerry 
Desktop Manager

Item 1 will probably be a bit annoying, but its necessary to resolve a 
serious issue I recently discovered.  Basically, a lot of old 
no-longer-referenced account data was being kept around by accident.  It 
had the side-effect of making saving/loading of configuration data 
progressively slower, as well as potentially causing other issues.  The 
change I committed fixes all these issues, and also alters the data 
format so it'll recreate the configuration data when you launch the app 
again.

Item 2 obviously needs testing, but should make life easier for anyone 
who upgrades devices.  I currently recommend against testing the restore 
feature while LogicMail is running, for obvious reasons.

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Re: [Logicmail-users] Imap - Inbox folder missing

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

All the languages (except English) are currently so far out of date, that 
I'm not entirely surprised.  I should test your case, though, since it 
*should* just be displaying English text if it doesn't have a translation.

-Derek

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, Daniel Enver Merdan wrote:

> Hey Derek,
> i found it. The option is not displayed when you use german as your language 
> though. I switched to english and than the option has been displayed.
> Great, thank you very much for your support! Great program by the way.
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
>
>
> On 22.06.2010, at 13:58, Derek Konigsberg wrote:
>
>> The account configuration has 3 pages...  "Basic settings", "Folder
>> settings", and "Advanced settings".  Its on the 3rd, at the bottom.
>> 
>> -Derek
>> 
>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, Daniel Enver Merdan wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Derek,
>>> thanks for your quick response!
>>> Already read that I should try this somewhere here, but I'm really not 
>>> able
>>> to find the option "show only subscribed folders".
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 22.06.2010, at 11:47, Derek Konigsberg wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Try disabling "Show only subscribed folders" in the advanced account
>>>> settings, then do a folder refresh.
>>>> Or, using a desktop e-mail client, make sure the INBOX actually is on the
>>>> list of subscribed folders.
>>>> 
>>>> P.S. Yes, I know the INBOX should be ignored by the subscription
>>>> filtering, but probably isn't so I'll have to look into that later.
>>>> 
>>>> -Derek
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, Daniel Enver Merdan wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hey,
>>>>> I'm have been trying Logicmail for 4.2.1/higher and 4.6.0/higher with
>>>>> my BB Curve 8900 (4.6.1.310).
>>>>> Was able to set up everything (using Imap on a private university
>>>>> email server), all folders are displayed correctly WITHOUT the inbox
>>>>> folder.
>>>>> Can somebody help?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> ----------------------------
>>>> Derek Konigsberg
>>>> dko...@lo...
>>>> ----------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>> lucky parental unit.  See the prize list and enter to win:
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>>> 
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>>> + 49-163-567-3873
>>> + 1-917-5355-457 (US)
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>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> ----------------------------
>>  Derek Konigsberg
>>  dko...@lo...
>> ----------------------------
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate
>> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the
>> lucky parental unit.  See the prize list and enter to win:
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo
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>
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> + 49-163-567-3873
> + 1-917-5355-457 (US)
> dan...@un...
>
>

-- 
----------------------------
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----------------------------

Re: [Logicmail-users] Imap - Inbox folder missing

[Daniel E. M. <Dan...@un...>]

Hey Derek,
i found it. The option is not displayed when you use german as your  
language though. I switched to english and than the option has been  
displayed.
Great, thank you very much for your support! Great program by the way.

Best regards,
Daniel



On 22.06.2010, at 13:58, Derek Konigsberg wrote:

> The account configuration has 3 pages...  "Basic settings", "Folder
> settings", and "Advanced settings".  Its on the 3rd, at the bottom.
>
> -Derek
>
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, Daniel Enver Merdan wrote:
>
>> Hi Derek,
>> thanks for your quick response!
>> Already read that I should try this somewhere here, but I'm really  
>> not able
>> to find the option "show only subscribed folders".
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22.06.2010, at 11:47, Derek Konigsberg wrote:
>>
>>> Try disabling "Show only subscribed folders" in the advanced account
>>> settings, then do a folder refresh.
>>> Or, using a desktop e-mail client, make sure the INBOX actually is  
>>> on the
>>> list of subscribed folders.
>>>
>>> P.S. Yes, I know the INBOX should be ignored by the subscription
>>> filtering, but probably isn't so I'll have to look into that later.
>>>
>>> -Derek
>>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, Daniel Enver Merdan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey,
>>>> I'm have been trying Logicmail for 4.2.1/higher and 4.6.0/higher  
>>>> with
>>>> my BB Curve 8900 (4.6.1.310).
>>>> Was able to set up everything (using Imap on a private university
>>>> email server), all folders are displayed correctly WITHOUT the  
>>>> inbox
>>>> folder.
>>>> Can somebody help?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate
>>>> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the
>>>> lucky parental unit.  See the prize list and enter to win:
>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Logicmail-users mailing list
>>>> Log...@li...
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logicmail-users
>>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> ----------------------------
>>> Derek Konigsberg
>>> dko...@lo...
>>> ----------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate
>>> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the
>>> lucky parental unit.  See the prize list and enter to win:
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Logicmail-users mailing list
>>> Log...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logicmail-users
>>
>> Daniel Enver Merdan
>> + 49-163-567-3873
>> + 1-917-5355-457 (US)
>> dan...@un...
>>
>>
>
> -- 
> ----------------------------
>  Derek Konigsberg
>  dko...@lo...
> ----------------------------
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate
> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the
> lucky parental unit.  See the prize list and enter to win:
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo
> _______________________________________________
> Logicmail-users mailing list
> Log...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logicmail-users

Daniel Enver Merdan
+ 49-163-567-3873
+ 1-917-5355-457 (US)
dan...@un...

Re: [Logicmail-users] Imap - Inbox folder missing

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

The account configuration has 3 pages...  "Basic settings", "Folder 
settings", and "Advanced settings".  Its on the 3rd, at the bottom.

-Derek

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, Daniel Enver Merdan wrote:

> Hi Derek,
> thanks for your quick response!
> Already read that I should try this somewhere here, but I'm really not able 
> to find the option "show only subscribed folders".
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
> On 22.06.2010, at 11:47, Derek Konigsberg wrote:
>
>> Try disabling "Show only subscribed folders" in the advanced account
>> settings, then do a folder refresh.
>> Or, using a desktop e-mail client, make sure the INBOX actually is on the
>> list of subscribed folders.
>> 
>> P.S. Yes, I know the INBOX should be ignored by the subscription
>> filtering, but probably isn't so I'll have to look into that later.
>> 
>> -Derek
>> 
>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, Daniel Enver Merdan wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey,
>>> I'm have been trying Logicmail for 4.2.1/higher and 4.6.0/higher with
>>> my BB Curve 8900 (4.6.1.310).
>>> Was able to set up everything (using Imap on a private university
>>> email server), all folders are displayed correctly WITHOUT the inbox
>>> folder.
>>> Can somebody help?
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate
>>> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the
>>> lucky parental unit.  See the prize list and enter to win:
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Logicmail-users mailing list
>>> Log...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logicmail-users
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> ----------------------------
>>  Derek Konigsberg
>>  dko...@lo...
>> ----------------------------
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate
>> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the
>> lucky parental unit.  See the prize list and enter to win:
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo
>> _______________________________________________
>> Logicmail-users mailing list
>> Log...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logicmail-users
>
> Daniel Enver Merdan
> + 49-163-567-3873
> + 1-917-5355-457 (US)
> dan...@un...
>
>

-- 
----------------------------
  Derek Konigsberg
  dko...@lo...
----------------------------

Re: [Logicmail-users] Imap - Inbox folder missing

[Daniel E. M. <Dan...@un...>]

Hi Derek,
thanks for your quick response!
Already read that I should try this somewhere here, but I'm really not  
able to find the option "show only subscribed folders".

Best regards,
Daniel




On 22.06.2010, at 11:47, Derek Konigsberg wrote:

> Try disabling "Show only subscribed folders" in the advanced account
> settings, then do a folder refresh.
> Or, using a desktop e-mail client, make sure the INBOX actually is  
> on the
> list of subscribed folders.
>
> P.S. Yes, I know the INBOX should be ignored by the subscription
> filtering, but probably isn't so I'll have to look into that later.
>
> -Derek
>
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, Daniel Enver Merdan wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>> I'm have been trying Logicmail for 4.2.1/higher and 4.6.0/higher with
>> my BB Curve 8900 (4.6.1.310).
>> Was able to set up everything (using Imap on a private university
>> email server), all folders are displayed correctly WITHOUT the inbox
>> folder.
>> Can somebody help?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Daniel
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate
>> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the
>> lucky parental unit.  See the prize list and enter to win:
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo
>> _______________________________________________
>> Logicmail-users mailing list
>> Log...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logicmail-users
>>
>
> -- 
> ----------------------------
>  Derek Konigsberg
>  dko...@lo...
> ----------------------------
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate
> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the
> lucky parental unit.  See the prize list and enter to win:
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo
> _______________________________________________
> Logicmail-users mailing list
> Log...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logicmail-users

Daniel Enver Merdan
+ 49-163-567-3873
+ 1-917-5355-457 (US)
dan...@un...

Re: [Logicmail-users] Imap - Inbox folder missing

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

Try disabling "Show only subscribed folders" in the advanced account 
settings, then do a folder refresh.
Or, using a desktop e-mail client, make sure the INBOX actually is on the 
list of subscribed folders.

P.S. Yes, I know the INBOX should be ignored by the subscription 
filtering, but probably isn't so I'll have to look into that later.

-Derek

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, Daniel Enver Merdan wrote:

> Hey,
> I'm have been trying Logicmail for 4.2.1/higher and 4.6.0/higher with
> my BB Curve 8900 (4.6.1.310).
> Was able to set up everything (using Imap on a private university
> email server), all folders are displayed correctly WITHOUT the inbox
> folder.
> Can somebody help?
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate
> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the
> lucky parental unit.  See the prize list and enter to win:
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo
> _______________________________________________
> Logicmail-users mailing list
> Log...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logicmail-users
>

-- 
----------------------------
  Derek Konigsberg
  dko...@lo...
----------------------------

[Logicmail-users] Imap - Inbox folder missing

[Daniel E. M. <Dan...@un...>]

Hey,
I'm have been trying Logicmail for 4.2.1/higher and 4.6.0/higher with  
my BB Curve 8900 (4.6.1.310).
Was able to set up everything (using Imap on a private university  
email server), all folders are displayed correctly WITHOUT the inbox  
folder.
Can somebody help?

Best regards,
Daniel

Re: [Logicmail-users] PGP support

[Ian v. B. <ivb...@la...>]

That's bad luck.
Hope somebody can provide
 help. As I'm no coder, I'm of close to no help. Looking forward to v2. Maybe I could do some beta-testing.

Thanks a lot.

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 03:52:52 +0200, Derek Konigsberg wrote:
> It would be at least as hard as adding S/MIME support, but probably 
> harder.  (the device already has crypto APIs and a keystore for managing 
> X.509 certificates, which would be necessary for S/MIME)
> 
> With PGP, we'd probably have to implement our own system of key/trust 
> management.
> 
> Right now I really don't have time to work on either, if you want me to 
> ever finish 2.0.  However, if someone else wants to work on these, I'll 
> welcome the contribution.  (alternatively, they could become something 
> to work on for 2.1)
> 
> -Derek
> 
> On 06/14/2010 06:38 PM, Ian van Broesel wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > As i am quiet new to logicmail, i would like to know if there is > >
> > Hope for positive answer. Anyway thanks a lot for that great piece of software.
> >
> > Regards
> > Ian
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate
> > GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the
> > lucky parental unit.  See the prize list and enter to win:
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo
> > _______________________________________________
> > Logicmail-users mailing list
> > Log...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logicmail-users
> >    
> 
> 
> -- 
> ----------------------------
>   Derek Konigsberg
>   dko...@lo...
> ----------------------------
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate 
> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the 
> lucky parental unit.  See the prize list and enter to win: 
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo
> _______________________________________________
> Logicmail-users mailing list
> Log...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logicmail-users
> 
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Re: [Logicmail-users] PGP support

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

It would be at least as hard as adding S/MIME support, but probably 
harder.  (the device already has crypto APIs and a keystore for managing 
X.509 certificates, which would be necessary for S/MIME)

With PGP, we'd probably have to implement our own system of key/trust 
management.

Right now I really don't have time to work on either, if you want me to 
ever finish 2.0.  However, if someone else wants to work on these, I'll 
welcome the contribution.  (alternatively, they could become something 
to work on for 2.1)

-Derek

On 06/14/2010 06:38 PM, Ian van Broesel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As i am quiet new to logicmail, i would like to know if there is achance for PGP-Support in logicmail?
>
> Hope for positive answer. Anyway thanks a lot for that great piece of software.
>
> Regards
> Ian
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate
> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the
> lucky parental unit.  See the prize list and enter to win:
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo
> _______________________________________________
> Logicmail-users mailing list
> Log...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logicmail-users
>    


-- 
----------------------------
  Derek Konigsberg
  dko...@lo...
----------------------------

[Logicmail-users] PGP support

[Ian v. B. <ivb...@la...>]

Hi,

As i am quiet new to logicmail, i would like to know if there is achance for PGP-Support in logicmail?

Hope for positive answer. Anyway thanks a lot for that great piece of software.

Regards
Ian

Re: [Logicmail-users] LogicMail for Exchange

[Derek K. <dko...@lo...>]

Exchange can be configured to speak both POP and IMAP, and thus LogicMail 
can be used normally with it.  ("periodic polling in the background" is 
something on the to-do list, and will be there in 2.0, and people ask 
about this every other week)

However, as I understand it, Exchange also has its own protocol that 
Outlook uses by default when talking to it.  LogicMail does not currently 
support that protocol.  Its also not as clearly and openly documented as 
the IMAP and POP protocols, so it would be a major undertaking to research 
it and figure out how to deal with it.

-Derek

On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Shailove wrote:

> Hello,
> Pardon me if it appears to be another stupid discussion on "push" vs. "pull"
> technologies for email over Blackberry.
> Its good to know that LogicMail support IMAP and POP methods.
>
> Outlook 2007 supports downloading of emails from the corporate Exchange
> Enterprise server without VPN (using http if I am not wrong). Can't a
> similar kind of thing be achieved in LogicMail. Just like an Outlook type of
> app which will periodically ping the Exchange server and will display the
> emails on Blackberry.
>
> Thanks
>

-- 
----------------------------
  Derek Konigsberg
  dko...@lo...
----------------------------

[Logicmail-users] LogicMail for Exchange

[Shailove <ksh...@gm...>]

Hello,
Pardon me if it appears to be another stupid discussion on "push" vs. "pull"
technologies for email over Blackberry.
Its good to know that LogicMail support IMAP and POP methods.

Outlook 2007 supports downloading of emails from the corporate Exchange
Enterprise server without VPN (using http if I am not wrong). Can't a
similar kind of thing be achieved in LogicMail. Just like an Outlook type of
app which will periodically ping the Exchange server and will display the
emails on Blackberry.

Thanks

[Logicmail-users] (no subject)

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