This thread is meant to be open ended and provide a means to talk about when and where (server) to meet, what to play and to socially hook up with musicians who share the same musical interests. Going further reciprocal session times could be set and even exchange of sheet music could be facilitated
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I am not sure what classical jamming would be :) Perhaps the name of the topic should just be 'Classical'
If you post here with the names of the pieces you are working on, you might find a partner for duets or trios, or (possibly more likely) a piano accompanist.
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On the contrary, as a classical cellist, "jamming" makes perfect sense to me. It's true that classically trained musicians no longer (since 19th century?) are trained in or experienced with improvisation. But it's very common to get a few people together, grab parts for some piece no one has practiced, or maybe even played or heard before, and play through it just for fun. No need to only play things you've worked on. Any professional or experience amateur is comfortable with that. That's what "jamming" means to me.
I'd love to be able to do this through Jamulus. There are parts to tons of public domain literature available online (imslp.org), so we wouldn't need to arrange in advance what to play.
I've tried to recruit colleagues to start using Jamulus for this purpose (and in the long run also for more serious rehearsals). But I think classical musicians in general are less familiar with electronics and audio equipment and software, than say rock or jazz players, so I'm having trouble convicing many people to give it a try.
So if there are any string players out there interested in playing quartets (or whatever!), I'd like to hear from you.
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Hi David,
Here is a viola ready to go.
We just need two violins for the "1st Jamulus Quartet".
I am an average amateur player, like to see the notes beforehand, but using IMSLP evryone has access, so there is no problem. I had planned on making a post here looking for players today, but you beat me to it.
I would like to suggest we take on the Borodin Quartet nr2 to start out. I haven't looked real close at it, but it looks doable and it is beautiful. Of course, all other suggestions are welcome.
Can't wait to see some more activity here and start playing. I am missing orchestra and having a reason to work some with my instrument.
I have never tried to play jazz, maybe this is the time to look into it.
Don
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There's not much literature for viola, cello, and piano. There are few things by composers I've never heard of (which might be wonderful, but I'm always leery of that). But there are also viola transcriptions of the clarinet parts for the Beethoven (op. 11) and Brahms (op. 114) trios.
For cello and viola, there's Beethoven's famous Eyeglasses Duet
Also Hindemidth duo, but that is not public domain, at least in the U.S.
Don, and Punshon, where are you folks? I'm east coast US, near DC. Geography is important for lag-time. I'm hoping to try some duets with my bassoonist son in Holland this weekend, but I'm not optimistic about the results.
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I am in Switzerland, I see no problem to Germany, France or elsewhere in Europe, but US I don't think will work.
Bummer. I'm still game to try if you want. I've been practicing trying to play with a 110+ ms delay. I figure it's like playing with someone who is always dragging, so you try to play ahead of them in an attempt to keep it moving. It's hard to do this just by myself. But I'm optimistic I could do this with a small ensemble, since I've had lots of practice doing this for real in some community groups I get hired to play with :-)
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We had a big delay problem one day and yes, it's possible to compensate but it's not fun. It feels like you forge ahead regardless, with the other(s) always pulling you back. It felt like a struggle. We were keeping it together but it didn't feel like making music.
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... you are of course right. For continuity reasons I tried to have them all follow the same principle for the sake of the logic of theses threads. If it turns out to be just a meeting place for setting stuff up or communicating, it would be fine. However, do not underestimate classical music; there is improvisation for those classical musicians who like it. Any way, this is an experiment. We'll see if people just want the fun of going servers and then see what is going on there, maybe with an extra thrill of the immense spontanety ...
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Agree on the wide possibilities, both reading as improvising. perhaps it would be nice if there was a specific server just for Classical. And still classical is as broad as can be, so you could even start you own Schubert Lieder- Room..... Or you might set up a facebook group for that.
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I am in Eugene, Oregon and have a server called Chamber Music. I play bassoon and have a bunch of music for oboe, flute, bassoon trios, and a few duets for flute & bassoon. None of these in the public domain, and most not originally scored for that combination of instruments (mostly string trios), but playable. Given an email address, I could get parts to you. I have a flutist friend who is almost up to speed with Jamulus and who is interested in playing trios, but need an oboe. Any oboe players out there?? Would flute, bassoon, violin be totally strange?
Lag is an issue; I have good ping times to Seattle, Portland, SW Canada, but California servers aren't generally within reach.
If you see me connected, or the server is up, feel free to connect.
L
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Hi All - I'm a 'cellist and violist near New York (experienced chamber player). Just set up Jamulus and would like to play with one or more classical musicians (violin, viola, bassoon, 'cello, etc.). Familiar with chamber music rep, IMSLP, etc. Anyone up for giving it a try, let me know.
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I would love to, but the lag between us would be terrible. I’ve been
playing with someone who’s only a few miles from me, and when the lag is
over 50 ms (I think because of other Internet traffic), it’s painful. It’s
hard to stay together and hard to get back if you get off. Not fun.
That said, how about connecting to a server midway between??? Would that
work?
Hi All - I'm a 'cellist and violist near New York (experienced chamber
player). Just set up Jamulus and would like to play with one or more
classical musicians (violin, viola, bassoon, 'cello, etc.). Familiar with
chamber music rep, IMSLP, etc. Anyone up for giving it a try, let me know.
I would love to, but the lag between us would be terrible. I’ve been
playing with someone who’s only a few miles from me, and when the lag is
over 50 ms (I think because of other Internet traffic), it’s painful. It’s
hard to stay together and hard to get back if you get off. Not fun.
That said, how about connecting to a server midway between??? Would that
work?
On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 12:10 Mike Tietz cellomike@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
Hi All - I'm a 'cellist and violist near New York (experienced chamber
player). Just set up Jamulus and would like to play with one or more
classical musicians (violin, viola, bassoon, 'cello, etc.). Familiar with
chamber music rep, IMSLP, etc. Anyone up for giving it a try, let me know.
Hi Leigh - I'd be willing to give it a try. Maybe later today?
Thanks - Mike
cellomike93@gmail.com
914-714-4441
On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 3:22 PM Leigh Williams alanakate@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
I would love to, but the lag between us would be terrible. I’ve been
playing with someone who’s only a few miles from me, and when the lag is
over 50 ms (I think because of other Internet traffic), it’s painful. It’s
hard to stay together and hard to get back if you get off. Not fun.
That said, how about connecting to a server midway between??? Would that
work?
On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 12:10 Mike Tietz cellomike@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
Hi All - I'm a 'cellist and violist near New York (experienced chamber
player). Just set up Jamulus and would like to play with one or more
classical musicians (violin, viola, bassoon, 'cello, etc.). Familiar with
chamber music rep, IMSLP, etc. Anyone up for giving it a try, let me know.
This thread is meant to be open ended and provide a means to talk about when and where (server) to meet, what to play and to socially hook up with musicians who share the same musical interests. Going further reciprocal session times could be set and even exchange of sheet music could be facilitated
I am not sure what classical jamming would be :) Perhaps the name of the topic should just be 'Classical'
If you post here with the names of the pieces you are working on, you might find a partner for duets or trios, or (possibly more likely) a piano accompanist.
On the contrary, as a classical cellist, "jamming" makes perfect sense to me. It's true that classically trained musicians no longer (since 19th century?) are trained in or experienced with improvisation. But it's very common to get a few people together, grab parts for some piece no one has practiced, or maybe even played or heard before, and play through it just for fun. No need to only play things you've worked on. Any professional or experience amateur is comfortable with that. That's what "jamming" means to me.
I'd love to be able to do this through Jamulus. There are parts to tons of public domain literature available online (imslp.org), so we wouldn't need to arrange in advance what to play.
I've tried to recruit colleagues to start using Jamulus for this purpose (and in the long run also for more serious rehearsals). But I think classical musicians in general are less familiar with electronics and audio equipment and software, than say rock or jazz players, so I'm having trouble convicing many people to give it a try.
So if there are any string players out there interested in playing quartets (or whatever!), I'd like to hear from you.
Hi David,
Here is a viola ready to go.
We just need two violins for the "1st Jamulus Quartet".
I am an average amateur player, like to see the notes beforehand, but using IMSLP evryone has access, so there is no problem. I had planned on making a post here looking for players today, but you beat me to it.
I would like to suggest we take on the Borodin Quartet nr2 to start out. I haven't looked real close at it, but it looks doable and it is beautiful. Of course, all other suggestions are welcome.
Can't wait to see some more activity here and start playing. I am missing orchestra and having a reason to work some with my instrument.
I have never tried to play jazz, maybe this is the time to look into it.
Don
Hi Don,
We have a pianist here, so let me know if you guys want to do a duet or maybe even a trio ?
Do you have 1 or 2 suggestions for repertoire we could find on IMSLP ?
A trio sounds like fun!
Don
There's not much literature for viola, cello, and piano. There are few things by composers I've never heard of (which might be wonderful, but I'm always leery of that). But there are also viola transcriptions of the clarinet parts for the Beethoven (op. 11) and Brahms (op. 114) trios.
For cello and viola, there's Beethoven's famous Eyeglasses Duet
Also Hindemidth duo, but that is not public domain, at least in the U.S.
Don, and Punshon, where are you folks? I'm east coast US, near DC. Geography is important for lag-time. I'm hoping to try some duets with my bassoonist son in Holland this weekend, but I'm not optimistic about the results.
Last edit: David Zelinsky 2020-05-02
Oh-Oh, I see a problem.
I am in Switzerland, I see no problem to Germany, France or elsewhere in Europe, but US I don't think will work.
:(
Bummer. I'm still game to try if you want. I've been practicing trying to play with a 110+ ms delay. I figure it's like playing with someone who is always dragging, so you try to play ahead of them in an attempt to keep it moving. It's hard to do this just by myself. But I'm optimistic I could do this with a small ensemble, since I've had lots of practice doing this for real in some community groups I get hired to play with :-)
I am in London, so I think Switzerland would work for me, but not USA (sorry!).
DonC - did you have a piece in mind for viola and piano ?
We had a big delay problem one day and yes, it's possible to compensate but it's not fun. It feels like you forge ahead regardless, with the other(s) always pulling you back. It felt like a struggle. We were keeping it together but it didn't feel like making music.
... you are of course right. For continuity reasons I tried to have them all follow the same principle for the sake of the logic of theses threads. If it turns out to be just a meeting place for setting stuff up or communicating, it would be fine. However, do not underestimate classical music; there is improvisation for those classical musicians who like it. Any way, this is an experiment. We'll see if people just want the fun of going servers and then see what is going on there, maybe with an extra thrill of the immense spontanety ...
Last edit: Harro Heilmann 2020-05-01
Agree on the wide possibilities, both reading as improvising. perhaps it would be nice if there was a specific server just for Classical. And still classical is as broad as can be, so you could even start you own Schubert Lieder- Room..... Or you might set up a facebook group for that.
A change being made to Jamulus soon may well faciliatate that :-)
I am in Eugene, Oregon and have a server called Chamber Music. I play bassoon and have a bunch of music for oboe, flute, bassoon trios, and a few duets for flute & bassoon. None of these in the public domain, and most not originally scored for that combination of instruments (mostly string trios), but playable. Given an email address, I could get parts to you. I have a flutist friend who is almost up to speed with Jamulus and who is interested in playing trios, but need an oboe. Any oboe players out there?? Would flute, bassoon, violin be totally strange?
Lag is an issue; I have good ping times to Seattle, Portland, SW Canada, but California servers aren't generally within reach.
If you see me connected, or the server is up, feel free to connect.
L
clarinetist here looking for people to play with, willing to let me join?
I’d love to and could probably scare up some music. But the crucial
question: Where are you located?
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 16:24 JSW claireannette@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
Hello Punshon, I'm another pianist fairly close to London, if you fancy some duets.
Simon
Last edit: SIMON COOK 2020-05-19
PS should say I am located near Boston, MA
Too far from me, alas. I’m in Oregon.
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 16:27 JSW claireannette@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
Hi All - I'm a 'cellist and violist near New York (experienced chamber player). Just set up Jamulus and would like to play with one or more classical musicians (violin, viola, bassoon, 'cello, etc.). Familiar with chamber music rep, IMSLP, etc. Anyone up for giving it a try, let me know.
I would love to, but the lag between us would be terrible. I’ve been
playing with someone who’s only a few miles from me, and when the lag is
over 50 ms (I think because of other Internet traffic), it’s painful. It’s
hard to stay together and hard to get back if you get off. Not fun.
That said, how about connecting to a server midway between??? Would that
work?
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wrote:
Hi Leigh - I'd be willing to give it a try. Maybe later today?
Thanks - Mike
cellomike93@gmail.com
914-714-4441
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Me I am clarinet and outside of BostonJ
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On Monday, May 25, 2020, 3:47 PM, Mike Tietz cellomike@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
Hi Leigh - I'd be willing to give it a try. Maybe later today?
Thanks - Mike
cellomike93@gmail.com
914-714-4441
On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 3:22 PM Leigh Williams alanakate@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
I would love to, but the lag between us would be terrible. I’ve been
playing with someone who’s only a few miles from me, and when the lag is
over 50 ms (I think because of other Internet traffic), it’s painful. It’s
hard to stay together and hard to get back if you get off. Not fun.
That said, how about connecting to a server midway between??? Would that
work?
On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 12:10 Mike Tietz cellomike@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
Hi All - I'm a 'cellist and violist near New York (experienced chamber
player). Just set up Jamulus and would like to play with one or more
classical musicians (violin, viola, bassoon, 'cello, etc.). Familiar with
chamber music rep, IMSLP, etc. Anyone up for giving it a try, let me know.
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