linux-apus-devel

Re: IDE issue, no booting and that last_ipl

[Roman Z. <zi...@li...>]

Hi,

Alan Buxey wrote:

> I'n not too concerned about the last_ipl printk's right now...as
> some other people see them and their system still boots (and operates)
> some info about what it means might be nice...i know its some debugging.

It's some interrupt event history (positive number for interrupt entry,
negative for exit). It's printed when it sees unexpected interrupts. The
basic problem is a buggy interrupt controller, which generates interrupt
when it shouldn't. The new interrupt code ignores these interrupts. It's
not completely clear why it crashes and without hardware I cannot debug
this. The problem is that this requires some careful adding of prints
and lots of reboots, since too much prints will modify the behaviour and
magically "fix" the problem.

bye, Roman

Re: The CVPPC on board SCSI driver.

[Rene B. <re...@we...>]

On 2002.07.24 15:30 Ken Tyler wrote:
> >
> > I don't really know anything about this, but if the CPU hits an illeg=
al
> > instruction, there could still be coherency issues?
>=20
> I think the illegal instruction Rene refers to are in the SCSI SCRIPTS
> that the ncr controllers use.  Don't know much about them but someone w=
ho
> does is  Richard Hirst <rh...@li...>, very helpful when I trie=
d
> (and failed) to get the A4091 running reliably.

Yes. The illegal instruction is caused by a SCRIPTS command in the ncr=20
chip. SCRIPTS is an assembly language used by the more recent ncr=20
controllers.
But the command which causes the exception isn't illegal and absolutely=20
necessary at this point and also there doesn't exists a replacement (work=
=20
around...) for this command. So, the reason for the exception must be on=20
another point.
But the understanding of the SCRIPTS part of the driver ist not realy a=20
problem for me, because I've programmed several achitectures in assembly=20
for many years.


Ciao, Ren=E8

Re: The CVPPC on board SCSI driver.

[Ken T. <ke...@we...>]

On 24 Jul 2002, Michel D=E4nzer wrote:

> On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 14:27, Rene Brothuhn wrote:

> > On 2002.07.24 12:33 Ken Tyler wrote:

> > > I came across a pait of 4.3 Gig UW SCSI drives at a give away price t=
he
> > > other day.  I thought I might grab them and have ago.

I might spend my money on the drives.

> Great to hear you're making progress! Can you please commit what you
> have, so others can look at it?

Good, I'd like to see it too !
=20
> > After that, when the driver tries to reselect a device (for reading out=
=20
> > the capacity...), I got an illigal instruction exception from the SCRIP=
TS.=20
> > But there is no illegal instruction. The documentation of the 53c770 sa=
ys,=20
> > that illigal instruction exception also occur on some illegal phases on=
=20
> > the SCSI bus. I don't know much about SCSI bus arbitration, but I'm=20
> > learning...
>=20
> I don't really know anything about this, but if the CPU hits an illegal
> instruction, there could still be coherency issues?

I think the illegal instruction Rene refers to are in the SCSI SCRIPTS
that the ncr controllers use.  Don't know much about them but someone who
does is  Richard Hirst <rh...@li...>, very helpful when I tried
(and failed) to get the A4091 running reliably.

Ken.

Re: The CVPPC on board SCSI driver.

[Michel <mi...@da...>]

On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 14:27, Rene Brothuhn wrote:
> On 2002.07.24 12:33 Ken Tyler wrote:
> >=20
> > I came across a pait of 4.3 Gig UW SCSI drives at a give away price the
> > other day.  I thought I might grab them and have ago.
> >=20
> > What's the status of the driver ?
> >=20
> > I know it doesn't work and that Fred H (possibly someone else too ) hav=
e
> > tried modding existing drivers.
> >=20
> > Which driver almost worked (can't remember the details - some sort of
> > cache coherency problem ?).
>=20
>=20
> Hi, Ken!
>=20
> I'm working on the driver. But I have to give up my work for several=20
> month, due to lack of time. But for some weeks, I got a little time back=20
> and contiune my work on the driver.
>=20
> So, for now it seems that all the cache coherency problems are solved. An=
d=20
> the communication between the lowlevel and midlevel SCSI driver thru DMA=20
> seems working correctly now (which wasn't since i stopped my work). The=20
> driver detects the devices connected to the SCSI bus and prints out the=20
> names, revision numbers and so on.

Great to hear you're making progress! Can you please commit what you
have, so others can look at it?

> After that, when the driver tries to reselect a device (for reading out=20
> the capacity...), I got an illigal instruction exception from the SCRIPTS=
.=20
> But there is no illegal instruction. The documentation of the 53c770 says=
,=20
> that illigal instruction exception also occur on some illegal phases on=20
> the SCSI bus. I don't know much about SCSI bus arbitration, but I'm=20
> learning...

I don't really know anything about this, but if the CPU hits an illegal
instruction, there could still be coherency issues?


--=20
Earthling Michel D=E4nzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer
XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast

Re: The CVPPC on board SCSI driver.

[Rene B. <re...@we...>]

On 2002.07.24 12:33 Ken Tyler wrote:
>=20
> I came across a pait of 4.3 Gig UW SCSI drives at a give away price the
> other day.  I thought I might grab them and have ago.
>=20
> What's the status of the driver ?
>=20
> I know it doesn't work and that Fred H (possibly someone else too ) hav=
e
> tried modding existing drivers.
>=20
> Which driver almost worked (can't remember the details - some sort of
> cache coherency problem ?).


Hi, Ken!

I'm working on the driver. But I have to give up my work for several=20
month, due to lack of time. But for some weeks, I got a little time back=20
and contiune my work on the driver.

So, for now it seems that all the cache coherency problems are solved. An=
d=20
the communication between the lowlevel and midlevel SCSI driver thru DMA=20
seems working correctly now (which wasn't since i stopped my work). The=20
driver detects the devices connected to the SCSI bus and prints out the=20
names, revision numbers and so on.
After that, when the driver tries to reselect a device (for reading out=20
the capacity...), I got an illigal instruction exception from the SCRIPTS=
.=20
But there is no illegal instruction. The documentation of the 53c770 says=
,=20
that illigal instruction exception also occur on some illegal phases on=20
the SCSI bus. I don't know much about SCSI bus arbitration, but I'm=20
learning...


Ciao, Ren=E8

The CVPPC on board SCSI driver.

[Ken T. <ke...@we...>]

I came across a pait of 4.3 Gig UW SCSI drives at a give away price the
other day.  I thought I might grab them and have ago.

What's the status of the driver ?

I know it doesn't work and that Fred H (possibly someone else too ) have
tried modding existing drivers.

Which driver almost worked (can't remember the details - some sort of
cache coherency problem ?).

Ken.

Re: IDE issue, no booting and that last_ipl

[Ken T. <ke...@we...>]

On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Alan Buxey wrote:

> 1) IDEBUSSPEED.  this seems to want to run a 33MHz.  is this okay for gayle ??
> The A1200 motherboard only runs at 14.x/28.x ??  I tried with  idebus=14
> etc etc but ide-probe still came up with 33 - i guess  bootstrap
> doesnt pass this argument along?

> 2) delays.  do we use the mdelay(); calls in IDE system...or do we use the
> HZ/20 calls.

We can probably eliminate the above two points as 2.4.18 is fine on my  4000.
 
> 3) if this *IS* to do with IRQ and address space allocation (as it appears
> to be leaning towards) what has changed?  oeverything prior to 2.4.14 
> worked.... i dont have a 2.4.13 source code tarball anymore (dumped my old
> CD's too....no backups there!) I'd love it if someone had such a tarball
> I could FTP as then I could start 'diffing' the files in drivers/ide
> to see what happened.......

I have a tar of 2.2.x, is that any use ?

Ken.

Re: IDE issue, no booting and that last_ipl

[Rene B. <re...@we...>]

Hi!

I have found some interresting mails from Roman Zippel. Maybe this can=20
help to understand.

Ciao, Ren=E8


------------------------------------------------------------

Roman Zippel: 2001.11.05  2:20

Log message:
   move disabling of interrupts during probe
   enable other interrupts during ide irq

Modified files:
       2.3/drivers/ide/:
         ide-probe.c ide.c     Revision      Changes    Path
   1.4           +89 -55    2.3/drivers/ide/ide-probe.c
   1.4           +283 -171  2.3/drivers/ide/ide.c


------------------------------------------------------------

Roman Zippel: 2001.11.05  2:29

Log message:
   use general interrupt management code

Modified files:
       2.3/arch/ppc/amiga/:
         amiints.c cia.c config.c       2.3/arch/ppc/kernel/:
         apus_setup.c irq.c Removed files:
       2.3/arch/ppc/amiga/:
         ints.c     Revision      Changes    Path
   1.8           +19 -192   2.3/arch/ppc/amiga/amiints.c
   1.4           +17 -71    2.3/arch/ppc/amiga/cia.c
   1.12          +21 -32    2.3/arch/ppc/amiga/config.c
   1.27          +53 -146   2.3/arch/ppc/kernel/apus_setup.c
   1.12          +0 -7      2.3/arch/ppc/kernel/irq.c


------------------------------------------------------------

Roman Zippel: 2001.11.05  2:48

Hi,

> Log message:
>   use general interrupt management code

This was a major surgery, I hoped everything still works as before,
please test it carefully.
Biggest visible difference is a new /proc/interrupts format, which is
now the same as for other ppc machines. Otherwise there is now finally
that annoying "Trying to enable auto-vector" print gone. I left another
print in (last_ipl[x] already set to...), it should only occur rarely
and shouldn't be a problem. I'll remove it later again.

Re: IDE issue, no booting and that last_ipl

[Michel <mi...@da...>]

On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 12:09, Alan Buxey wrote:
>=20
> 3) if this *IS* to do with IRQ and address space allocation (as it appear=
s
> to be leaning towards) what has changed?  oeverything prior to 2.4.14=20
> worked.... i dont have a 2.4.13 source code tarball anymore (dumped my ol=
d
> CD's too....no backups there!) I'd love it if someone had such a tarball
> I could FTP as then I could start 'diffing' the files in drivers/ide
> to see what happened.......

cvs diff is your friend...


--=20
Earthling Michel D=E4nzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer
XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast

Re: IDE issue, no booting and that last_ipl

[Geert U. <ge...@li...>]

On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Alan Buxey wrote:
> It *APPEARS* that the system hangs in ide-probe.c   this is a quick 
> statement...i didnt have too much time to delve into the path this code takes
> (system reboots and kernel compiles take some time). 
> 
> there are a few things I'm concerned about
> 
> 1) IDEBUSSPEED.  this seems to want to run a 33MHz.  is this okay for gayle ??
> The A1200 motherboard only runs at 14.x/28.x ??  I tried with  idebus=14
> etc etc but ide-probe still came up with 33 - i guess  bootstrap
> doesnt pass this argument along?

AFAIK the IDE bus speed isn't used at all with Gayle.

> 2) delays.  do we use the mdelay(); calls in IDE system...or do we use the
> HZ/20 calls.
> 
> 3) if this *IS* to do with IRQ and address space allocation (as it appears
> to be leaning towards) what has changed?  oeverything prior to 2.4.14 
> worked.... i dont have a 2.4.13 source code tarball anymore (dumped my old
> CD's too....no backups there!) I'd love it if someone had such a tarball
> I could FTP as then I could start 'diffing' the files in drivers/ide
> to see what happened.......

Can't you get 2.4.13 from APUS CVS?

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- ge...@li...

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
							    -- Linus Torvalds

IDE issue, no booting and that last_ipl

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

I'n not too concerned about the last_ipl printk's right now...as
some other people see them and their system still boots (and operates)
some info about what it means might be nice...i know its some debugging.

anyway...just too make sure that this wasnt just some changes to
the kernel that made slightly dodgy hardware finally die
I played with my configuration yesterday....for about 2 hours
until I was too tired.

heres my findings:


2.4.13  boots with  IDEDOUBLER installed. with ide=doubler
present and absent in bootstrap line (i just lose my 2nd HD and CD)


2.4.18 doesnt boot with IDEDOUBLER present and ide=doubler
2.4.18 doesnt boot with IDEDOUBLER present and  no ide=doubler
2.4.18 doesnt boot with IDEDOUBLER removed from system (ie plain A1200 interface)

so....its not hardware...and its not the ide=doubler code (so far as i could tell)


It *APPEARS* that the system hangs in ide-probe.c   this is a quick 
statement...i didnt have too much time to delve into the path this code takes
(system reboots and kernel compiles take some time). 

there are a few things I'm concerned about

1) IDEBUSSPEED.  this seems to want to run a 33MHz.  is this okay for gayle ??
The A1200 motherboard only runs at 14.x/28.x ??  I tried with  idebus=14
etc etc but ide-probe still came up with 33 - i guess  bootstrap
doesnt pass this argument along?

2) delays.  do we use the mdelay(); calls in IDE system...or do we use the
HZ/20 calls.

3) if this *IS* to do with IRQ and address space allocation (as it appears
to be leaning towards) what has changed?  oeverything prior to 2.4.14 
worked.... i dont have a 2.4.13 source code tarball anymore (dumped my old
CD's too....no backups there!) I'd love it if someone had such a tarball
I could FTP as then I could start 'diffing' the files in drivers/ide
to see what happened.......


Alan

Re: IDE poll test

[Rene B. <re...@we...>]

On 2002.07.20 12:55 Andreas W=FCst wrote:
> >> Should I send an announcement to amiga-news.de?
> >
> > Please do it.
>=20
> Done.
>=20
> >> BTW: I think we could take the text right above the poll to also
> contact
> >> ann.lu or amiga.org.
> >
> > Please do it also.
>=20
> Well, hard luck.. On ann.lu it only shows up when you activate
> "unmoderated"
> news, maybe Alan could manage something that it shows up straightly (I
> doubt
> many users have "unmoderated" activated as it is quite high volume..),
> and the
> layout looks terrible (well, they didn't tell me that I only have one
> single
> preview!!). On amiga.org I had to register
> first, but will retry it in a few minutes..

Many thanks to you!


Ciao, Ren=E8

Re: IDE poll test

[Andreas <an...@po...>]

Hi Rene

Am 19-Jul-02 schriebst Du:
> On 2002.07.19 12:26 Andreas W=FCst wrote:
>>>=20
>>> How's that: I have added a link to the APUS page, renamed Alans
>>> survey_test to surveys and moved my IDE_poll_test directory to
>>> surveys/IDE_poll_020719.
>>> So we can set up similar surveys (the X4 problem) in the same
>> directory.
>>=20
>> Should I send an announcement to amiga-news.de?
>=20
> Please do it.

Done.

>> BTW: I think we could take the text right above the poll to also conta=
ct
>> ann.lu or amiga.org.
>=20
> Please do it also.

Well, hard luck.. On ann.lu it only shows up when you activate "unmoderat=
ed"
news, maybe Alan could manage something that it shows up straightly (I do=
ubt
many users have "unmoderated" activated as it is quite high volume..), an=
d the
layout looks terrible (well, they didn't tell me that I only have one sin=
gle
preview!!). On amiga.org I had to register
first, but will retry it in a few minutes..

--=20
Regards,
Andi

Poll for IDE/last_ipl problem

[Rene B. <re...@we...>]

Hello!


Because of the problems we have with the more recent APUS kernels (2.4.14=
=20
and up), we have created a poll to get out some informations where the=20
problem is. You can find more information on the APUS homepage or directl=
y=20
under:

http://linux-apus.sourceforge.net/surveys/IDE_poll_020719/IDE_poll.html

Please take some time and fill out the form.
Thanks!


Ciao, Ren=E8

Re: IDE poll test

[Rene B. <re...@we...>]

On 2002.07.19 12:26 Andreas W=FCst wrote:
> >
> > How's that: I have added a link to the APUS page, renamed Alans
> > survey_test to surveys and moved my IDE_poll_test directory to
> > surveys/IDE_poll_020719.
> > So we can set up similar surveys (the X4 problem) in the same
> directory.
>=20
> Should I send an announcement to amiga-news.de?

Please do it.

> BTW: I think we could take the text right above the poll to also contac=
t
> ann.lu or amiga.org.

Please do it also.


Ciao, Ren=E8

Re: IDE poll test

[Andreas <an...@po...>]

Hallo Rene

Am 19-Jul-02 schriebst Du:
> On 2002.07.18 23:47 Michel D=E4nzer wrote:
>> On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 18:23, Rene Brothuhn wrote:
>>>=20
>>> I have made some little changes to the poll test. Corrected some
>> spelling
>>> (thanks Andreas) and added some tests if the correct form was used an=
d
>> if
>>> the user already has voted.
>>>=20
>>> So, in my oppinion, we can start the survey. Can anyone of you help m=
e
>> for
>>> doing that?
>>=20
>> I'd say announce it on the front page and wherever you think potential
>> audience is?
>=20
>=20
> How's that: I have added a link to the APUS page, renamed Alans=20
> survey_test to surveys and moved my IDE_poll_test directory to=20
> surveys/IDE_poll_020719.
> So we can set up similar surveys (the X4 problem) in the same directory.

Should I send an announcement to amiga-news.de?

BTW: I think we could take the text right above the poll to also contact=20
ann.lu or amiga.org.

--=20
Good work, Rene!! By,
Andi

Re: IDE poll test

[Rene B. <re...@we...>]

On 2002.07.18 23:47 Michel D=E4nzer wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 18:23, Rene Brothuhn wrote:
> >
> > I have made some little changes to the poll test. Corrected some
> spelling
> > (thanks Andreas) and added some tests if the correct form was used an=
d
> if
> > the user already has voted.
> >
> > So, in my oppinion, we can start the survey. Can anyone of you help m=
e
> for
> > doing that?
>=20
> I'd say announce it on the front page and wherever you think potential
> audience is?


How's that: I have added a link to the APUS page, renamed Alans=20
survey_test to surveys and moved my IDE_poll_test directory to=20
surveys/IDE_poll_020719.
So we can set up similar surveys (the X4 problem) in the same directory.


Ciao, Ren=E8

Re: IDE poll test

[Michel <mi...@da...>]

On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 18:23, Rene Brothuhn wrote:=20
>=20
> I have made some little changes to the poll test. Corrected some spelling=
=20
> (thanks Andreas) and added some tests if the correct form was used and if=
=20
> the user already has voted.
>=20
> So, in my oppinion, we can start the survey. Can anyone of you help me fo=
r=20
> doing that?

I'd say announce it on the front page and wherever you think potential
audience is?


--=20
Earthling Michel D=E4nzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer
XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast

Re: IDE poll test

[Rene B. <re...@we...>]

Hello!

I have made some little changes to the poll test. Corrected some spelling=
=20
(thanks Andreas) and added some tests if the correct form was used and if=
=20
the user already has voted.

So, in my oppinion, we can start the survey. Can anyone of you help me fo=
r=20
doing that?


Ciao, Ren=E8

Re: IDE poll test

[Andreas <an...@po...>]

Hi Rene

Am 17-Jul-02 schriebst Du:

> On 2002.07.17 17:14 Krystian Bac=B3awski wrote:
>> Hi!
>>=20
>>> So, concerning the "Did your kernel have module support:" it may be
>> useful to
>>> give a hint how to find out. e.g. "Look at config-2.4.xx-apus and che=
ck
>> for
>>> CONFIG_MODULES=3Dy and COFNIG_KMOD=3Dy" or something similar. Or is
>>> there an easier method to find out
>>> for newbies, especially if they haven't yet installed the modules and
>> are
>>> getting the errors about the missing module dependencies at boot time=
?
>>=20
>> Is it so important ??? Kernel hangs up during booting, it doesn't even
>> reach the moment when modules are being loaded.
>=20
>=20
> I think yes. I am working on the UW-SCSI driver and I get much better=20
> results if I disable loadable module support in the kernel (not only=20
> compile the scsi-driver static into the kernel). So I think it could be=
 a=20
> worthful information.

I have no idea about the importance of this question, I've only been conc=
erned
that it may be hard to find out.

> About the hint how to find out if the kernel has loadable module suppor=
t:=20
> I do not know an easy way to find it out (maybe /proc/modules does not=20
> exists?). So, any description how to find it out (a look in the=20
> config-file) is to complicated for newbies.

Well, you're pretty right. But to give a hint is better than nothing.

> On the other hand, does=20
> anybody have the correct config-file for the kernel they use?

That's the other problem. If we advice the user to check for the config f=
ile,
we don't know about the amount of wrong answers we get because of the wro=
ng
config file. This may falsify the statistics.

> That was the=20
> reason I've added the "Don't know" option.

My idea was to bring the "Don't know" answers down to a minimum. But it m=
ay
even be better to have a lot of "Don't know" answers instead of false "Ye=
s" or
"No" answers.

> But it is also complicated for most users to get out the motherboard=20
> revision...

Depends on the hardwarecase ;)

To summarize: I have no idea about what to do about the modules question.=
. Go
as you think may be best!

--=20
Wishes,
Andi

Re: IDE poll test

[Rene B. <re...@we...>]

On 2002.07.17 17:14 Krystian Bac=B3awski wrote:
> Hi!
>=20
> > So, concerning the "Did your kernel have module support:" it may be
> useful to
> > give a hint how to find out. e.g. "Look at config-2.4.xx-apus and che=
ck
> for
> > CONFIG_MODULES=3Dy and COFNIG_KMOD=3Dy" or something similar. Or is
> > there an easier method to find out
> > for newbies, especially if they haven't yet installed the modules and
> are
> > getting the errors about the missing module dependencies at boot time=
?
>=20
> Is it so important ??? Kernel hangs up during booting, it doesn't even
> reach the moment when modules are being loaded.


I think yes. I am working on the UW-SCSI driver and I get much better=20
results if I disable loadable module support in the kernel (not only=20
compile the scsi-driver static into the kernel). So I think it could be a=
=20
worthful information.


About the hint how to find out if the kernel has loadable module support:=
=20
I do not know an easy way to find it out (maybe /proc/modules does not=20
exists?). So, any description how to find it out (a look in the=20
config-file) is to complicated for newbies. On the other hand, does=20
anybody have the correct config-file for the kernel they use? That was th=
e=20
reason I've added the "Don't know" option.
But it is also complicated for most users to get out the motherboard=20
revision...


Ciao, Ren=E8

Re: IDE poll test

[Michel <mi...@da...>]

On Wed, 2002-07-17 at 12:51, Andreas W=FCst wrote:
>=20
> So, concerning the "Did your kernel have module support:" it may be usefu=
l to
> give a hint how to find out. e.g. "Look at config-2.4.xx-apus and check f=
or
> CONFIG_MODULES=3Dy and COFNIG_KMOD=3Dy" or something similar.

Only CONFIG_MODULES would be relevant for that.

> Or is there an easier method to find out for newbies, especially if they
> haven't yet installed the modules and are getting the errors about
> the missing module dependencies at boot time?

I think /proc/modules only exists if CONFIG_MODULES=3Dy.

I also wonder if modules are significant for the IDE problem though...


--=20
Earthling Michel D=E4nzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer
XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast

Re: IDE poll test

[<cah...@po...>]

Hi!

> So, concerning the "Did your kernel have module support:" it may be useful to
> give a hint how to find out. e.g. "Look at config-2.4.xx-apus and check for
> CONFIG_MODULES=y and COFNIG_KMOD=y" or something similar. Or is
> there an easier method to find out
> for newbies, especially if they haven't yet installed the modules and are
> getting the errors about the missing module dependencies at boot time?

Is it so important ??? Kernel hangs up during booting, it doesn't even
reach the moment when modules are being loaded. 

Regards
Krystian

Re: IDE poll test

[Andreas <an...@po...>]

Hi Rene

> Since Michel has added me to the APUS group (thanks!), I was so free to 
> add a directory for a preview of the IDE poll (because I have no write 
> permission to the directory Alan has created). You can find it under:
> 
> http://linux-apus.sourceforge.net/IDE_poll_test/IDE_poll.html
> 
> So take a look and give suggestions or even make it public.

Looks good!!

Some minor spelling problems: "Do you getting last_ipl[] outputs:". Either
write "Are you getting .." or "Do you get ..". The same with: "Do you using
FastATA:". Write "Are you using .." or "Do you use ..".

I wonder how kernels should be handled which are neither self compiled by the
user, nor downloaded from sourceforge, IIRC Michael Heider (SuSE PPC on Amiga
effort) or the AZT distro have their own compiled kernels.

So, concerning the "Did your kernel have module support:" it may be useful to
give a hint how to find out. e.g. "Look at config-2.4.xx-apus and check for
CONFIG_MODULES=y and COFNIG_KMOD=y" or something similar. Or is
there an easier method to find out
for newbies, especially if they haven't yet installed the modules and are
getting the errors about the missing module dependencies at boot time?

-- 
Good work! Best whishes,
Andi

Re: IDE poll test

[Michel <mi...@da...>]

On Wed, 2002-07-17 at 01:17, Rene Brothuhn wrote:
>=20
> Since Michel has added me to the APUS group (thanks!), I was so free to=20
> add a directory for a preview of the IDE poll (because I have no write=20
> permission to the directory Alan has created). You can find it under:
>=20
> http://linux-apus.sourceforge.net/IDE_poll_test/IDE_poll.html
>=20
> So take a look and give suggestions or even make it public.

I think it looks good, I expect everybody to get the last_ipl[] output
though, it's debugging output after all.


--=20
Earthling Michel D=E4nzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer
XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast