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From: Jesper S. <js...@re...> - 2000-05-23 10:03:53
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>>>>> "Sven" == Sven LUTHER <lu...@dp...> writes: Sven> nice, just add a small notice about the existence of Sven> linux-apsu-devel@sourceforge also, ... People who need to know will find out by _reading_ the manuals. This message is for the horde of people who can't be bothered to read more than a few paragraphs of text at a time. I want to keep those people on the user list, thank you very much :) Jesper |
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From: Sven L. <lu...@dp...> - 2000-05-23 10:02:56
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On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 11:54:58AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > I think it would also be a good idea if someone propagates APUS stuff to the > Linux/PPC BitKeeper tree. I have an account there, but my time is limited (and > I don't have an APUS box). Huh, ... i thought jesper was doing just that, for the v2.3 tree, i don't think it make sense for the 2.2 tree, since it is only a temporary solution until we find the bug in the 2.3 kernel ? BTW, it would be nice if we had something like a blackboard where everyone could write stuff, and use that for a recapitulation of all that has transpired about this 2.3 issue. Once i have finalized the debian boot floppies and potato is released, i plan to have a look at that. BTW, Geert, do you have any idea how comes my scsi disk has decided to become read only by amiga-fdisk sudenly, while hdtoolbox and scsiconfig from p5 work fine ? and i also can write to the disk without problem ... Friendly, Sven LUTHER |
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From: Sven L. <lu...@dp...> - 2000-05-23 09:59:21
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On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 11:49:49AM +0200, Jesper Skov wrote: > >>>>> "Michel" == Michel =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E4nzer?= <Michel> writes: > > >> to both lists or only apus-user ? > > Michel> The latter. Most developers have already subscribed to devel I > Michel> guess, and if anyone is missing they can change the > Michel> subscription themselves. > > Agree. To the user list. > > > >> best would be if we could add some notice to the confirmation mail > >> stuff, ... > > Michel> Tell me what, and I'll add it. > > Something like this: nice, just add a small notice about the existence of linux-apsu-devel@sourceforge also, ... Friendly, Sven LUTHER |
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From: Geert U. <ge...@li...> - 2000-05-23 09:56:31
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I think it would also be a good idea if someone propagates APUS stuff to the
Linux/PPC BitKeeper tree. I have an account there, but my time is limited (and
I don't have an APUS box).
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- ge...@li...
In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
-- Linus Torvalds
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From: Geert U. <ge...@li...> - 2000-05-23 09:54:57
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On Tue, 23 May 2000, Jesper Skov wrote:
> In a few weeks the sunsite list will be closed and it would be nice if
> everybody has gotten all their mail aliases, procmail scripts and
> whatnot updated by then. Please refrain from posting on the sunsite
> list - use the new lin...@li... list instead.
Could the old list send an autoreply that it was closed? At least for a few
weeks.
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- ge...@li...
In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
-- Linus Torvalds
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From: Geert U. <ge...@li...> - 2000-05-23 09:51:42
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On Tue, 23 May 2000, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> First of all: Everybody please trim your headers when replying!
> Alan Buxey wrote:
> > > btw will you all transfer all the files from Sunsite to Sourceforge
> > > or will they remain at Sunsite..?
> >
> > I think *ALL* APUS related files should be copied to the sourceforge.
> > thats the sunsite stuff, geerts FB stuff, the XFree4.0a stuff etc
>
> Not the last one, and I don't think Geert's FB stuff is needed either (fbset
> should be in any decent distro, and the accel stuff is in X 3.3.6)
Note that my stuff at K.U.Leuven will vanish within a few months. My account is
scheduled to be deleted on September 30 (which is not bad, only 13 months after
I left the univ :-).
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- ge...@li...
In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
-- Linus Torvalds
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From: Jesper S. <js...@re...> - 2000-05-23 09:51:35
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>>>>> "Michel" == Michel =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E4nzer?= <Michel> writes: >> to both lists or only apus-user ? Michel> The latter. Most developers have already subscribed to devel I Michel> guess, and if anyone is missing they can change the Michel> subscription themselves. Agree. To the user list. >> best would be if we could add some notice to the confirmation mail >> stuff, ... Michel> Tell me what, and I'll add it. Something like this: ------------------------- Hi there! If you did not request subscription of this list yourself, it's because I (Jesper) did it on your behalf. You may not have noticed, but all Linux/APUS related stuff is moving to SourceForge (see http://linux-apus.sourceforge.net/) This includes the old lin...@su... mailing list which is replaced by lin...@li.... Please see http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/linux-apus-user for details on subscribing, or simply follow the instructions of this mail (i.e., reply without changing the Subject line). When you have done that, please unsubscribe from the sunsite mailing list by sending an empty mail to lin...@su.... In a few weeks the sunsite list will be closed and it would be nice if everybody has gotten all their mail aliases, procmail scripts and whatnot updated by then. Please refrain from posting on the sunsite list - use the new lin...@li... list instead. Thanks! --------------------------------- Jesper |
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From: Sven L. <lu...@dp...> - 2000-05-23 09:47:19
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On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 11:39:29AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > > Sven> maybe we could just run a script that will subscribe all the old > > > Sven> users to the two lists, they have to confirm it anyway, ... > > > > > > That's a good point. I'll probably go for a mass-subscription after > > > all then. > > Yes, and it prevents me from having to reject tons of 'subscribe' mails to the > lists *grin* > > > > to both lists or only apus-user ? > > The latter. Most developers have already subscribed to devel I guess, and if > anyone is missing they can change the subscription themselves. > > > > best would be if we could add some notice to the confirmation mail stuff, > > ... > > Tell me what, and I'll add it. Well i was thinking about a : you have been automatically subscribed to linux-apus-user, since the linux-apus@sunsite list migrated over to sourceforge. you have to confirm you subscription and subscribe also to the developper list if you feel like it. + some relevant links, to subsription doc and other such, ... Friendly, Svne LUTHER |
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From: Sven L. <lu...@dp...> - 2000-05-23 09:44:58
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On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 11:22:24AM +0200, Frank Petzold wrote:
> I propose the following stategy to handle the CVS repository on sourceforge:
>
Well, lets discuss this again next week.
For now i will do the following :
* import into the cvs repository the latest common tree between 2.3 and 2.2
* then update the main (that would be 2.2) branch to current status, step by
step).
* fork the 2.3 branch out from the common version. and dp the same to bring
2.3 upto current status (as on sunsite).
later when 2.3 is working on apus, and 2.4 is released, ... we can move the
HEAD of the cvs tree to point to the new 2.4 branch, and create a new 2.5
branch, ...
Friendly,
Svne LUTHER
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From: Michel <dae...@st...> - 2000-05-23 09:41:07
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Sven LUTHER wrote: > > Sven> maybe we could just run a script that will subscribe all the old > > Sven> users to the two lists, they have to confirm it anyway, ... > > > > That's a good point. I'll probably go for a mass-subscription after > > all then. Yes, and it prevents me from having to reject tons of 'subscribe' mails to the lists *grin* > to both lists or only apus-user ? The latter. Most developers have already subscribed to devel I guess, and if anyone is missing they can change the subscription themselves. > best would be if we could add some notice to the confirmation mail stuff, > ... Tell me what, and I'll add it. Michel -- People who are wrong the most are wrong the loudest. ______________________________________________________________________________ Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86, Team *AMIGA*, AUGS |
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From: Sven L. <lu...@dp...> - 2000-05-23 09:37:32
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On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 11:33:17AM +0200, Jesper Skov wrote: > >>>>> "Sven" == Sven LUTHER <lu...@dp...> writes: > > Sven> On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 11:14:32AM +0200, Jesper Skov wrote: > >> >>>>> "Michel" == Michel =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E4nzer?= <Michel> writes: > >> > Michel> Any opinions on how we go best about moving people to the new > Michel> lists, FTP, ... ? > >> > Michel> Jesper, could you redirect the old list to the new user-list, > Michel> or move the subscribers or something? > >> I don't like that. People should change their subscription > >> themselves. They have the new address information. > > Sven> maybe we could just run a script that will subscribe all the old > Sven> users to the two lists, they have to confirm it anyway, ... > > That's a good point. I'll probably go for a mass-subscription after > all then. to both lists or only apus-user ? best would be if we could add some notice to the confirmation mail stuff, ... Friendly, Sven LUTHER |
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From: Jesper S. <js...@re...> - 2000-05-23 09:34:55
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>>>>> "Sven" == Sven LUTHER <lu...@dp...> writes: Sven> On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 11:14:32AM +0200, Jesper Skov wrote: >> >>>>> "Michel" == Michel =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E4nzer?= <Michel> writes: >> Michel> Any opinions on how we go best about moving people to the new Michel> lists, FTP, ... ? >> Michel> Jesper, could you redirect the old list to the new user-list, Michel> or move the subscribers or something? >> I don't like that. People should change their subscription >> themselves. They have the new address information. Sven> maybe we could just run a script that will subscribe all the old Sven> users to the two lists, they have to confirm it anyway, ... That's a good point. I'll probably go for a mass-subscription after all then. Jesper |
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From: Michel <dae...@st...> - 2000-05-23 09:32:12
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First of all: Everybody please trim your headers when replying! Alan Buxey wrote: > > btw will you all transfer all the files from Sunsite to Sourceforge > > or will they remain at Sunsite..? > > I think *ALL* APUS related files should be copied to the sourceforge. > thats the sunsite stuff, geerts FB stuff, the XFree4.0a stuff etc Not the last one, and I don't think Geert's FB stuff is needed either (fbset should be in any decent distro, and the accel stuff is in X 3.3.6) Michel -- The problem with religious texts is that the answers aren't in the back. ______________________________________________________________________________ Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86, Team *AMIGA*, AUGS |
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From: Sven L. <lu...@dp...> - 2000-05-23 09:31:26
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On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 11:14:32AM +0200, Jesper Skov wrote: > >>>>> "Michel" == Michel =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E4nzer?= <Michel> writes: > > Michel> Any opinions on how we go best about moving people to the new > Michel> lists, FTP, ... ? > > Michel> Jesper, could you redirect the old list to the new user-list, > Michel> or move the subscribers or something? > > I don't like that. People should change their subscription > themselves. They have the new address information. maybe we could just run a script that will subscribe all the old users to the two lists, they have to confirm it anyway, ... > I'll have the Sunsite footer inform people to subscribe to the new > list. Yes, ok, that would be nice, ... > Basically, people (everybody) should stop using the sunsite list and > unsubscribe from it. I'll post weekly notes on the list, but all > content traffic should move to the new list. Ok, ... Friendly, Sven LUTHER |
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From: Alan B. <al...@ms...> - 2000-05-23 09:26:30
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hi, > btw will you all transfer all the files from Sunsite to Sourceforge > or will they remain at Sunsite..? I think *ALL* APUS related files should be copied to the sourceforge. thats the sunsite stuff, geerts FB stuff, the XFree4.0a stuff etc alan |
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From: <fp...@zu...> - 2000-05-23 09:24:30
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I propose the following stategy to handle the CVS repository on sourceforge: The trunk always contains the most recent "official" source tree of the entire APUS kernel source. When somebody wishes to make patches, (s)he creates a branch and makes the changes there. After checkin, we can have a peer review, and if it is found good, it is merged with the trunk, creating a new release. Using this, we do not have to "pollute" the mailing list with diffs. Another option would be to have the tunk as the official Linus kernel, and the stuff proposed above as a branch. And, we should define some naming policy for tags. -- Frank Petzold, IBM Zurich Research Laboratory, Säumerstrasse 4, CH-8803 Rüschlikon/Switzerland, Tel. +41-1-724-84-42 Fax. +41-1-724-89-56 Business email: fp...@zu... Private email: pe...@he... The opinions expressed here are mine and not necessarily those of IBM. |
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From: Jesper S. <js...@re...> - 2000-05-23 09:16:14
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>>>>> "Michel" == Michel =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E4nzer?= <Michel> writes: Michel> Any opinions on how we go best about moving people to the new Michel> lists, FTP, ... ? Michel> Jesper, could you redirect the old list to the new user-list, Michel> or move the subscribers or something? I don't like that. People should change their subscription themselves. They have the new address information. I'll have the Sunsite footer inform people to subscribe to the new list. Basically, people (everybody) should stop using the sunsite list and unsubscribe from it. I'll post weekly notes on the list, but all content traffic should move to the new list. Let's see how it works out... Jesper |
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From: Sven L. <lu...@dp...> - 2000-05-23 09:15:25
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On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 05:54:12PM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote: > hi, > > > I don't like it, so unless anyone really really needs it I'll remove it. > > umm, I use PINE and it helps me to see where its from - i do like it :-| Alan, ever heard about procmail, ... Friendly, Sven LUTHER |
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From: Michel <dae...@st...> - 2000-05-23 09:10:06
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Any opinions on how we go best about moving people to the new lists, FTP, ... ? Jesper, could you redirect the old list to the new user-list, or move the subscribers or something? For the FTP area, I suggest moving the stuff that's still useful (not too much I guess) in the same or a similar directory layout. Michel -- Been there, done that, can't remember why... ______________________________________________________________________________ Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86, Team *AMIGA*, AUGS |
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From: Michel <dae...@st...> - 2000-05-23 08:58:43
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Sinan Gürkan wrote: > I`ve improved preview website..Please take a look... > > -Kolla`s apus logo added > -FAQ link added... > -SourceForge logo and link added. I already saw it yesterday, looks good to me. > btw will you all transfer all the files from Sunsite to Sourceforge > or will they remain at Sunsite..? I vote for the first. Please get the front page up ASAP (things can always be changed later) and add the rest as it becomes available. Michel -- It is easier to fix Unix than to live with NT. ______________________________________________________________________________ Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86, Team *AMIGA*, AUGS |
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From: Nicholai B. <nic...@ch...> - 2000-05-22 22:00:35
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Hello Michel Den 22-Maj-00, skrev Michel Dänzer: MD> (First of all: sorry for cross-posting - I don't want to miss anyone :) MD> MD> MD> We are building up a Linux/APUS project @sourceforge. The summary page MD> is MD> MD> https://sourceforge.net/project/?group_id=5907 MD> MD> Well done. Sourceforge seems to offer exactly all that we need and some more :-)). /Nicholai |
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From: Sinan <sg...@su...> - 2000-05-22 18:24:40
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Hello I`ve improved preview website..Please take a look... -Kolla`s apus logo added -FAQ link added... -SourceForge logo and link added. Can someone tell me the name of the links that will go to the blue cell on the front page... btw will you all transfer all the files from Sunsite to Sourceforge or will they remain at Sunsite..? -- Sinan Gürkan http://www.amigart.com http://sanalkultur.cjb.net A1300T + BlizzardPPC 166 Mhz + BvisionPPC 8MB + 64MB RAM |
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From: Rune E. <re...@gr...> - 2000-05-22 18:13:09
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So I heard that somebody was working on porting 2.3.x to APUS, and obviously that was 2.3.99 or something.... anyway, assuming this person has subscribed to the new list, would you mind telling me what you've already done... what is working / what is not working+++ ??? I for one is willing to "work" on this "project" aswell...... and I guess there's others too who might join in..... (if so, would those persons mind letting us know? ;) DRI/DRM needs 2.3.x in order to work, that is, if we don't port it BACK to 2.2.x thank you ! --- Rune Elvemo --- Octagon / Digital Minds re...@gr... http://home.c2i.net/elvemo |
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From: Alan B. <al...@ms...> - 2000-05-22 17:25:18
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hi, > Look at the subject of this mail to see why I don't like it... urgh! Yes, you're right....that *is* horrible... is this a bug with sourceforce or their majordomo package? ok...time to find a decent email package for unix! If only I had YAM at work... alan |
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From: Michel <da...@re...> - 2000-05-22 17:07:15
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Alan Buxey wrote: > > hi, > > > I don't like it, so unless anyone really really needs it I'll remove it. > > umm, I use PINE and it helps me to see where its from - i do like it :-| Look at the subject of this mail to see why I don't like it... Michel -- Apologies are so hard to give. Would you accept some potatoes instead? ______________________________________________________________________________ Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86, Team *AMIGA*, AUGS |
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