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From: Jesper S. <js...@re...> - 2000-05-23 16:28:06
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>>>>> "Michel" == Michel =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E4nzer?= <Michel> writes: Michel> Jesper Skov wrote: >> >>>>> "Sven" == Sven LUTHER <lu...@dp...> writes: >> Sven> BTW, jesper, i guess you are/were yourself using a cvs server, Sven> what if we move that to sourceforge ? >> If it's possible to import a CVS tree (i.e., the files under the >> CVSROOT), sure. I can pack it up and dump it somewhere. But only if >> it's possible to do. Let me know. Michel> It's possible AFAICT (I could e.g. checkout and commit Michel> CVSROOT/modules) Sorry, that's not the CVSROOT I was thinking about. env CVSROOT / $CVSROOT whatever. As in: thinktwice:> ls $CVSROOT CVSROOT/ bbrd2.bmp,v license.txt,v sup/ bbrd1.bmp,v ecc/ setup.bmp,v wintdist.exe,v* Here 'ecc' is the eCos sources under CVS (actually RCS) control. But it's a moot point. I forgot that I changed to bitkeeper, and the box with the old CVS tree is not around anymore. You'll have to use the patches on sunsite. Jesper |
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From: Alan B. <al...@ms...> - 2000-05-23 16:23:45
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hi, > An empty string goes through even the tightest bottleneck amazingly > fast. It's a _very_ long time since I've received any patches from > anyone, so I don't think you can honestly call me a bottleneck :) oh! no, not calling any person a bottleneck! :-) It was the old system...sending patches to this mailing list, scouring everywhere for the latest bit etc... now its all centralised and CVS'able etc alan |
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From: Jesper S. <js...@re...> - 2000-05-23 16:16:35
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>>>>> "Michel" == Michel Dänzer <da...@re...> writes: Michel> Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: >> I think it would also be a good idea if someone propagates APUS >> stuff to the Linux/PPC BitKeeper tree. I have an account there, but >> my time is limited (and I don't have an APUS box). Michel> Yes, I'd like to have the native and/or bitkeeper (or Paul's Michel> pmac-devel?) tree integrated in our CVS if that is feasible so Michel> we can make diffs from time to time and try to catch up. There's no point in trying to keep either Linus' tree or the biteeper tree in the CVS tree just to make diffs. Diffs can be made just fine against separate trees using 'diff' (as opposed to 'cvs diff'). The more you try to stuff in there, the more time someone has to spend keeping everything up to date. Jesoer |
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From: Jesper S. <js...@re...> - 2000-05-23 16:15:59
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>>>>> "Alan" == Alan Buxey <al...@ms...> writes: Alan> looking forward to the new era...it seems that sourceforge will Alan> remove a bottleneck by centralising resources...and we can look Alan> at 2.3.x ernestly An empty string goes through even the tightest bottleneck amazingly fast. It's a _very_ long time since I've received any patches from anyone, so I don't think you can honestly call me a bottleneck :) Jesper |
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From: Michel <da...@re...> - 2000-05-23 16:12:14
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Jesper Skov wrote: > > >>>>> "Sven" == Sven LUTHER <lu...@dp...> writes: > > Sven> BTW, jesper, i guess you are/were yourself using a cvs server, > Sven> what if we move that to sourceforge ? > > If it's possible to import a CVS tree (i.e., the files under the > CVSROOT), sure. I can pack it up and dump it somewhere. But only if > it's possible to do. Let me know. It's possible AFAICT (I could e.g. checkout and commit CVSROOT/modules) Michel -- Therapy is expensive, popping bubble wrap is cheap. You choose. ______________________________________________________________________________ Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86, Team *AMIGA*, AUGS |
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From: Jesper S. <js...@re...> - 2000-05-23 16:10:46
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>>>>> "Geert" == Geert Uytterhoeven <ge...@li...> writes: Geert> I think it would also be a good idea if someone propagates APUS Geert> stuff to the Linux/PPC BitKeeper tree. I have an account there, Geert> but my time is limited (and I don't have an APUS box). I have been doing this. At least uptil the time when I last did any APUS work. The bitkeeper tree has most of the APUS changes, actually. Jesper |
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From: Jesper S. <js...@re...> - 2000-05-23 16:08:48
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>>>>> "Sven" == Sven LUTHER <lu...@dp...> writes: Sven> BTW, jesper, i guess you are/were yourself using a cvs server, Sven> what if we move that to sourceforge ? If it's possible to import a CVS tree (i.e., the files under the CVSROOT), sure. I can pack it up and dump it somewhere. But only if it's possible to do. Let me know. Jesper |
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From: Michel <da...@re...> - 2000-05-23 14:57:12
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The task manager seems to be accessible only via the icon on the top right. I'm curious if the task manager will help coordinate our effort. Michel PS: All developers should now be able to connect to linux-apus.sourceforge.net via SSH. -- People who are wrong the most are wrong the loudest. ______________________________________________________________________________ Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86, Team *AMIGA*, AUGS |
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From: Sven L. <lu...@dp...> - 2000-05-23 12:10:33
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On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 12:42:09PM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote: > hi, > > > Well, yes, but 2.2 is end of live, so no need to synchronize it with the > > bitkeeper /whatever tree, it is more an issue of the 2.2 m68k tree (which is > > no more maintained, because 2.3 works on m68k, ... > > doesnt m68k get 2.2.14 etc then? Or are they [users + developers] all over > on 2.3.x now ? m68k has 2.2.10 and 2.3.x ... > still on LinuxAPUS we are on 2.2.10 with no sight of 2.2.14 (what are the > issues? At least on sourceforge it'll be easier to keep track of the > problems via the noticeboard systems) Well, 2.2.10 is base on 2.2.x/m68k which is stuck at 2.2.10, so there is no chance of 2.2.x to go further on apus, unless someone takes all the 2.2.x m68k patches, sort out the amiga related ones from the (atari/mac/whatever ones) and tries to apply the 2.2.11-15 patches to it. But the consensus, both from the apus guys (well mostly jesper) anbd the m68k ones (Jes sorensen) is that it is a waste of resource to try to work on 2.2.x and are concentrating on 2.3.x. If you would work on 2.2.10, both for apus and m68k, please contact Jes, he has some stuff already done ... > looking forward to the new era...it seems that sourceforge will remove a > bottleneck by centralising resources...and we can look at 2.3.x ernestly Well, i think not that it really was a bottle neck, just lack of people working on it. Lets hope this new structure will help more people to be involved in kernel developpment. Friendly, Sven LUTHER |
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From: Alan B. <al...@ms...> - 2000-05-23 11:44:45
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hi, > Well, yes, but 2.2 is end of live, so no need to synchronize it with the > bitkeeper /whatever tree, it is more an issue of the 2.2 m68k tree (which is > no more maintained, because 2.3 works on m68k, ... doesnt m68k get 2.2.14 etc then? Or are they [users + developers] all over on 2.3.x now ? still on LinuxAPUS we are on 2.2.10 with no sight of 2.2.14 (what are the issues? At least on sourceforge it'll be easier to keep track of the problems via the noticeboard systems) looking forward to the new era...it seems that sourceforge will remove a bottleneck by centralising resources...and we can look at 2.3.x ernestly alan |
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From: Sven L. <lu...@dp...> - 2000-05-23 11:40:43
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On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 12:33:43PM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote: > hi, > > > i don't think it make sense for the 2.2 tree, since it is only a temporary > > solution until we find the bug in the 2.3 kernel ? > > ummm, I'd like to see the 2.2 tree alive and well, after all, 2.3 is the > development branch and people like me will like to have easy CVS access to > 2.2.x to make the kernels for users until 2.4.x arrives 8-) Well, yes, but 2.2 is end of live, so no need to synchronize it with the bitkeeper /whatever tree, it is more an issue of the 2.2 m68k tree (which is no more maintained, because 2.3 works on m68k, ... > > BTW, it would be nice if we had something like a blackboard where everyone > > could write stuff, and use that for a recapitulation of all that has > > transpired about this 2.3 issue. > > well, quite a few 2.3.x issues seem to be getting fixed on a weekly basis > - but are all the patches submitted being applied? maybe some passed > through unseen? Don't know, ... Friendly, Sven LUTHER |
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From: Alan B. <al...@ms...> - 2000-05-23 11:37:06
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hi, > nice, just add a small notice about the existence of > linux-apsu-devel@sourceforge also, ... neccessary? I'd have thought they'd see that list as soon as they visit the 'mother page' 8-) alan |
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From: Alan B. <al...@ms...> - 2000-05-23 11:36:43
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hi, > Note that my stuff at K.U.Leuven will vanish within a few months. My account is > scheduled to be deleted on September 30 (which is not bad, only 13 months after > I left the univ :-). do you want (or, would you like) all these files to be sourceforged? alan |
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From: Alan B. <al...@ms...> - 2000-05-23 11:36:19
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hi, > i don't think it make sense for the 2.2 tree, since it is only a temporary > solution until we find the bug in the 2.3 kernel ? ummm, I'd like to see the 2.2 tree alive and well, after all, 2.3 is the development branch and people like me will like to have easy CVS access to 2.2.x to make the kernels for users until 2.4.x arrives 8-) > BTW, it would be nice if we had something like a blackboard where everyone > could write stuff, and use that for a recapitulation of all that has > transpired about this 2.3 issue. well, quite a few 2.3.x issues seem to be getting fixed on a weekly basis - but are all the patches submitted being applied? maybe some passed through unseen? alan |
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From: Alan B. <al...@ms...> - 2000-05-23 11:35:20
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hi, > ------------------------- > > Hi there! If you did not request subscription of this list yourself, > it's because I (Jesper) did it on your behalf. > > You may not have noticed, but all Linux/APUS related stuff is moving > to SourceForge (see http://linux-apus.sourceforge.net/) > > This includes the old lin...@su... mailing list which is > replaced by lin...@li.... Please see > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/linux-apus-user for > details on subscribing, or simply follow the instructions of this mail > (i.e., reply without changing the Subject line). > > When you have done that, please unsubscribe from the sunsite mailing > list by sending an empty mail to lin...@su.... > > In a few weeks the sunsite list will be closed and it would be nice if > everybody has gotten all their mail aliases, procmail scripts and > whatnot updated by then. Please refrain from posting on the sunsite > list - use the new lin...@li... list instead. nice! very clear and concise! alan |
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From: Alan B. <al...@ms...> - 2000-05-23 11:33:48
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hi, > Yes, and it prevents me from having to reject tons of 'subscribe' mails to the > lists *grin* :-) > > to both lists or only apus-user ? > > The latter. Most developers have already subscribed to devel I guess, and if > anyone is missing they can change the subscription themselves. yes, add by default to the user list (a lot of people on the linux-apus@sunsite are user people/requests) as you say, its not difficult to join the dev list once you've visited sourceforge alan |
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From: Sven L. <lu...@dp...> - 2000-05-23 11:32:23
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On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 01:22:31PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > For the FTP area, I suggest moving the stuff that's still useful (not too > > much I guess) in the same or a similar directory layout. > > Jesper, do you know if the sunsite FTP fits into 100MB ? If yes, I'll move > everything over and then start to dump obsolete stuff there. Please don't remove the kernel patches before i checked the minto cvs ... BTW, jesper, i guess you are/were yourself using a cvs server, what if we move that to sourceforge ? Friendly, Sven LUTHER |
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From: Alan B. <al...@ms...> - 2000-05-23 11:25:21
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hi, > > umm, I use PINE and it helps me to see where its from - i do like it :-| > > Alan, ever heard about procmail, ... ummm. nope, but i have now. seems like I've also just found out how my lunch break will be spent :-) alan |
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From: Michel <da...@re...> - 2000-05-23 11:24:05
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Michel Dänzer wrote: > For the FTP area, I suggest moving the stuff that's still useful (not too > much I guess) in the same or a similar directory layout. Jesper, do you know if the sunsite FTP fits into 100MB ? If yes, I'll move everything over and then start to dump obsolete stuff there. Michel -- Apologies are so hard to give. Would you accept some potatoes instead? ______________________________________________________________________________ Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86, Team *AMIGA*, AUGS |
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From: Michel <da...@re...> - 2000-05-23 11:21:18
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Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > BTW, it would be nice if we had something like a blackboard where > > > everyone could write stuff, and use that for a recapitulation of all > > > that has transpired about this 2.3 issue. > > > > What about this mailing list? The archive will serve as the black board :) > > Yes, sure, but it would be good to have a somewhat more syntethic > recapitulation, unless omeone will write a mail to the list which > recapitualte the state of it ? What about opening a bug? AFAICT all followups show up on one page there. It has the drawback that only registered developers can add to it (?), but I think averyone who's made experience with 2.3 is there. Michel -- Me? A skeptic? Can you prove it? ______________________________________________________________________________ Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86, Team *AMIGA*, AUGS |
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From: Sven L. <lu...@dp...> - 2000-05-23 11:11:40
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On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 12:56:41PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > BTW, it would be nice if we had something like a blackboard where everyone > > could write stuff, and use that for a recapitulation of all that has > > transpired about this 2.3 issue. > > What about this mailing list? The archive will serve as the black board :) Yes, sure, but it would be good to have a somewhat more syntethic recapitulation, unless omeone will write a mail to the list which recapitualte the state of it ? Friendly, Sven LUTHER |
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From: Michel <da...@re...> - 2000-05-23 11:08:33
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Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > > I think *ALL* APUS related files should be copied to the sourceforge.
> > > thats the sunsite stuff, geerts FB stuff, the XFree4.0a stuff etc
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> > Not the last one, and I don't think Geert's FB stuff is needed either
> > (fbset should be in any decent distro, and the accel stuff is in X 3.3.6)
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> Note that my stuff at K.U.Leuven will vanish within a few months.
What do you think should be conserved?
Michel
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From: Michel <da...@re...> - 2000-05-23 11:06:34
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Jesper Skov wrote: > >> best would be if we could add some notice to the confirmation mail > >> stuff, ... > > Michel> Tell me what, and I'll add it. > > Something like this: > > [snip] I've added it, thanks Jesper! I guess you've already found out how to look at the subscribers of the new list. Michel -- I don't suffer from stress. I'm a carrier. ______________________________________________________________________________ Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86, Team *AMIGA*, AUGS |
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From: Michel <da...@re...> - 2000-05-23 10:58:26
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Sven LUTHER wrote: > BTW, it would be nice if we had something like a blackboard where everyone > could write stuff, and use that for a recapitulation of all that has > transpired about this 2.3 issue. What about this mailing list? The archive will serve as the black board :) Michel -- ...and that is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped. ______________________________________________________________________________ Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86, Team *AMIGA*, AUGS |
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From: Michel <da...@re...> - 2000-05-23 10:44:55
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Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
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> I think it would also be a good idea if someone propagates APUS stuff to the
> Linux/PPC BitKeeper tree. I have an account there, but my time is limited
> (and I don't have an APUS box).
Yes, I'd like to have the native and/or bitkeeper (or Paul's pmac-devel?) tree
integrated in our CVS if that is feasible so we can make diffs from time to
time and try to catch up.
Michel
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